シャドーイング練習: Be Interested, to Be Interesting | Hao Tran | TEDxRMIT - YouTubeで英語スピーキングを学ぶ
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Today's presentation is something that I've struggled with for the last seven years.
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Today's presentation is something that I've struggled with for the last seven years.
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From the moment that I arrived here to even today,
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and I've gotten better of course,
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which is to be interested, to be interesting.
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Those two words are very different and I'll explain what I mean by that.
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And the first one, to be interested,
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is the first most important step
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that you can take in your own journey of discovering your own identity and your own purpose,
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especially professionally but also personally.
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So I'm going to start with a story from when I was 17 years old,
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18 years old, which was that my high school senior year teacher,
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she asked the whole class of about 30 to write letter to themselves.
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And that letter to themselves would include all the goals that they would hope to achieve over the next 10 years.
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And then she would send that letter back to us after 10 years to see
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and reflect if we achieved those goals that we thought were possible when we were 18.
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I can start by saying I accomplished none of them.
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Very interesting goals now that I read them again,
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but none of them were that I wasn't interested in them now that I think about it.
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So why did I even pick them in the first quiz?
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I'm going to share a few of them.
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So the first one was to learn a new language.
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So I speak English, I speak Vietnamese, I speak Spanish.
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I spoke Spanish, I learned Spanish,
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not because I was interested in it,
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because my dad forced me to.
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I lived in California where apparently everybody has to speak Spanish,
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which is useful by the way.
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But anyways, that was in my letter,
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one of my goals, to learn a new language beyond that didn't happen.
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The next goal was to become a top student.
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I was the valedictorian of my high school class,
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the number one student, and that university,
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top student at university, and I was in the bottom 50% of my university class.
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I didn't achieve that.
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The next one was to become a star musician.
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Like most Vietnamese Americans, I was forced to learn piano.
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And somehow that was interpreted as me being a successful pianist in the future if I continued down that route.
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But I quickly learned I was not interested in it.
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And I wouldn't be for the next 10 years. So that didn't happen.
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And the last one that I'll share today was the idea
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that I would have a career at a company that I was proud to be at.
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A big tech company.
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I'm from Silicon Valley and my dad was one of the founding engineers of a very successful company.
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My brother, similar.
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I thought I would follow that path, it didn't happen.
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Actually, my first job out of university, I was laid off.
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I lost my job after 18 months.
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And I'll share more about that as well.
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So when I look at all those goals in that letter, I realized, wow.
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Well, not only did I fail at all of them, but why?
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It's because I wasn't interested in any of them.
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And I'll share a little bit later about what goals I was actually interested in,
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now that I reflect on it,
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and why it's led me to be more interesting today.
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And what I realize, now that I reflect on those 10 years,
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it's been a bit more than 10 years now,
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actually, is that this has been a journey,
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and it continues to be.
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of getting rid of this sense of entitlement.
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Society puts all these labels on us,
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and the media likes to talk about,
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which is ironic because I run a media company,
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tells you all about the success stories and what you should and can be.
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But it's important to kind of set your own interests,
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and then you will too be interesting.
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Because when I wrote that letter,
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and also when I moved to Vietnam when I was 23,
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I was not an interesting person.
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Because I was so obsessed with what people thought I should be rather than what I should have been myself.
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And I'll talk about, you know,
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the organizers invite me today.
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A lot of people ask me,
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why did you move to Vietnam?
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I moved seven years ago.
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You had everything going for you, which I did.
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I had a high-flying tech job in California, good family.
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My entire family lives there, all the good stuff.
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But when I moved to Vietnam,
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I realized that no one knew who I was.
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I literally didn't know anybody.
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And no one really cared either.
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Why would they care about you?
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You can tell them all these stories about how interesting you are
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and how much you deserve because you have that fancy degree or this or that.
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Those are good things too,
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by the way, including RMIT.
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But more importantly, you should be interested in the stories that you can learn from other people to be interested in yourself,
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especially for young people.
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And when you move to a new place,
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you go to a new university,
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a new job, be engaged.
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And that was something that I was very lucky to have.
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I didn't know this lesson,
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by the way, back then,
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so in retrospect, it worked out.
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So I'm going to tell a quick story about how I ended it even in Vietnam in the first place.
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So seven years now.
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This is an email from almost exactly seven years ago.
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I read on the Wall Street Journal,
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BBC or whatever it was,
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about this new venture capital fund that had just opened an office in Vietnam.
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I was so shocked.
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I was like, why would anyone do that?
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This was seven years ago, keep in mind.
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Different story now.
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And so I wrote to the partners.
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I had just come back from a trip to Vietnam, actually.
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I lost my job, as I mentioned.
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I took like a six-week kind of find-myself journey.
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And Vietnam was one of the stops.
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And I realized how the dynamic of a country was.
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As a Vietnamese-American, I didn't know very much about it.
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So I decided to engage more and when I went back to the US after this trip,
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I started researching, found these great guys,
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these two idols, people that I could see myself becoming as well in 10,
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20 years down the line.
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And I was like, why are they doing this?
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I want to know.
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So I sent this short email,
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just really short, I tried to not focus on myself too much,
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I just want to learn what they're doing and how I can get involved.
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And they actually replied.
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I was really surprised.
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These two people are super busy.
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You know, that's a lesson for you guys, by the way.
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When you send emails, keep it nice and short.
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Especially people that you think aren't busy.
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Keep it short.
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The shorter, the better.
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And they replied.
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And I remember I met with one of them,
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Bin, who is, I'm very grateful for to this day.
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A few days later we met for coffee and I remember asking him about what you're doing out there,
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you know, how can I get involved?
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He's like, how?
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Just stay where you are.
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You've got a great resume,
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you'll get another job quickly,
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which I did, and you don't want to come to Vietnam.
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And I was like, why?
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He's like, how?
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To be honest, I can't afford you.
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I said, try me.
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So he offered me $6 million a month. $250.
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That's a lot less than some of you will be making when you graduate.
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And I remember such a shock to my system because I was like,
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wow, I've worked two years full-time, right?
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Am I going to really do this?
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Am I going to take that bet on myself?
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And I did.
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But before accepting, I asked,
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can you pay for my flight?
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They ended up paying for half of my flight.
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But anyways, the lesson here,
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we look up to these idols,
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and some of them will be speaking later today as well.
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It's about being interested in what they have to know, what they know.
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Not just proving why you're interesting,
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but if you can ask the right questions,
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get them excited to share what they're going to talk about,
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like you will hear today,
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you too will be in that same position when the time comes.
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Anyways, I'm going to fast forward a little bit.
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So I moved to Vietnam for the job,
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venture capital, and within a couple months I realized,
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I was like, wow, I'm here for one year,
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I can't be just doing this,
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I've got to get out there and learn a little bit more about education,
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about food and beverage, about music,
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about all these different things.
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And that's how Vietcetera started,
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just a little blog, I would just write.
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One of the first people I met was the founders of Maru Chocolate,
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an artisanal chocolate brand here.
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I'm sure a lot of you have tried it or at least heard of it.
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And again, keep in mind,
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I was 23 years old and I was like,
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wow, I got to meet these people, yes!
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I just was so obsessed with the fact that I could put on Instagram that I met these people
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that I totally forgot that I should actually listen to the interview
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that I was doing with them so I met with them I drafted the article
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and it's still online you can read it later
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and I sent it to them before publishing again it's the first ever article I wrote back in whatever
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and they didn't reply for a week and I felt so sad I was like,
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why didn't I not reply?
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So I called them.
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I was like, yo, what's going on?
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And they replied with a very short email.
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How?
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To be honest, the article is terrible.
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And I panicked when I read that email.
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Keep in mind, I was 23 at the time.
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Looking up to my eyes, I was like, why?
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I heard the transcript of recording again.
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And I realized I wasn't listening.
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I wasn't engaged.
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I was just so obsessed with the fact that I was there.
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It was like a one-way conversation almost.
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Of course they were talking,
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but I felt like I was trying to prove myself so much about why I'm doing this company,
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this blog, why it matters,
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and I was like, just shut up.
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Just let them talk, because they have so much to share.
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A decade of experience making chocolate,
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entrepreneurship, branding, learn from these people.
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And that's what I did.
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So I fixed their article,
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sent it back to them.
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They're like, how?
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You did a 360.
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And today, actually, Maru Chocolates is one of our clients.
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So I like to tell that story sometimes at conferences,
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Vincent is still at.
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He laughs all the time.
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It's a great reflection, right?
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Anyways, the point I was trying to make there guys is when meeting anybody,
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they could be younger than you,
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older than you, more experienced,
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an entrepreneur, a future relationship, anything.
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Be interested in something so that you have something to share rather than trying to prove that you're interesting.
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And that's the idea about storytelling, right?
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It's about being interested.
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authentically curious, and you yourself will be interesting as well.
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So how does one go about doing this?
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That's the key question.
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And the rule is very simple.
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Stop trying to be interesting and focus on being interested.
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These are my interests.
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Compare them to the letters that I wrote.
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I wrote.
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I wanted to be a top student.
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I wanted to be a star musician,
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learn a bunch of languages.
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That sounds all nice and dandy.
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These may be a little bit more dry.
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Maybe?
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I don't know.
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But actually, if you ask me about these, I can talk endlessly.
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Apparently, I'm like a huge World War II history buff.
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Only like 60 year old dads are supposed to be, but I am.
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So if you ask me,
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I can give you all that.
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I love good design.
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I love travel, business, airline points.
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It's a very specific one.
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If you want to learn how to maximize your travel,
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you can ask me and I'll talk about it for hours.
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I've written blogs about it actually.
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And because I've realized over this,
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especially since moving to Vietnam,
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this journey of what am I interested in,
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I myself have now become more capable of sharing knowledge
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and quote-unquote being interesting that's I guess why I'm here to talk right
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but you asked me about languages music I just don't know
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anything I'm sorry can't help you you'll be bored to death
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so the next time you meet someone
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that you you want to learn something from you just want to meet you want to have
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that good conversation you got to get that good mutual energy transfer.
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Ask them, what are you working on that you're most excited about?
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And this question could apply to a personal relationship,
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could be a family member,
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you know, future boyfriend or girlfriend, business partner.
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And hopefully they come back with something so exciting that they love,
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that you feel inspired to,
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and you also will be interested in, interesting in.
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Thank you so much, everybody.
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Thank you.
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コンテキストと背景
このTEDxのプレゼンテーションは、Hao Tranが自身のアイデンティティと目的を見つける旅を通じて学んだことを共有しています。彼は、興味を持つことがどれほど重要であるかを強調し、個人と職業の両方での成長において、個々の目標を再評価する価値について話しています。彼の経験は、多くの人々が目標設定において直面する苦難や挑戦を反映しており、特に言語学習に対するアプローチについても重要な教訓が含まれています。
日常コミュニケーションのための5つのフレーズ
- 興味を持つことが成功の第一歩である。 (Being interested is the first step to success.)
- 目標を見直すことが重要だ。 (Re-evaluating goals is essential.)
- 新しい言語を学ぶことで新たな道が開ける。 (Learning a new language opens new paths.)
- 成功は時に予期しない形で訪れる。 (Success can come in unexpected ways.)
- 興味のない目標は達成しにくい。 (Goals that lack interest are hard to achieve.)
段階的シャドーイングガイド
このビデオを通じて英文のスピーキング力を向上させるためには、以下のステップを試してみましょう。まず、シャドースピーキング（shadowspeak）を利用して英語の音声を聞くことから始めます。
- ビデオを視聴する: 英語の音声をじっくりと聞き、内容を理解する。
- 文章ストラクチャーを分析する: 各フレーズの構造を確認し、言語の流れを学ぶ。
- シャドーイングを行う: 再生ボタンを押し、発話に合わせて声を出してみる。このプロセスでは、フレーズを繰り返すことで耳を慣らしていきます。
- 録音を聞いて確認する: 自分の声を録音し、元の音声と比較してみる。これにより、発音やリズムを効果的に改善することができます。
- フィードバックを受け取る: ネイティブスピーカーや英語の先生からアドバイスをもらい、さらに改善を図る。
この「シャドースピーチ」（shadow speech）メソッドを使い YouTubeで英語学習を進めることで、より自然な会話力が身に付き、新たな目標達成への道が開かれるはずです。
シャドーイングとは？英語上達に効果的な理由
シャドーイング（Shadowing）は、もともとプロの通訳者養成プログラムで開発された言語学習法で、多言語習得者として知られるDr. Alexander Arguelles によって広く普及されました。方法はシンプルですが非常に効果的：ネイティブスピーカーの英語を聞きながら、1〜2秒の遅延で声に出してすぐに繰り返す——まるで「影（shadow）」のように話者を追いかけます。文法ドリルや受動的なリスニングと異なり、シャドーイングは脳と口の筋肉が同時にリアルタイムで英語を処理・再現することを強制します。研究により、発音精度、抑揚、リズム、連音、リスニング力、そして会話の流暢さが大幅に向上することが確認されています。IELTSスピーキング対策や自然な英語コミュニケーションを目指す方に特におすすめです。