쉐도잉 연습: Are food price caps necessary or doomed to fail? | BBC Question Time - YouTube로 영어 말하기 배우기

Delivering a price cap that makes sure that farmers,

⏸ 일시 정지

재생 속도:

326 문장

문장이 너무 짧거나 길면 Edit를 눌러 조정하세요.

Delivering a price cap that makes sure that farmers,

fishers, other producers don't lose out is going to be difficult.

It's not nearly as difficult as being that child who goes to school on an empty stomach.

Should we implement a price cap on food in order to reduce food poverty and ease the cost of living?

Or is that simply unworkable and doomed to failure?

Would you welcome it, Mary?

I personally am not sure.

I heard what the retailers had to say yesterday when the Treasury explored the idea of limited caps.

So we know what they think.

I'd be really interested to hear what the panel think.

We clearly have a problem.

OK, so we've had two different ideas coming up.

We've got the government at Westminster talking about,

well, sort of like various ideas being mooted,

possibly a voluntary cap, although that now they seem to have decided maybe not to do that.

And then the SNP, you want a compulsory cap on food.

Is that going to work or is it doomed to failure?

Absolutely we should do this.

I mean, I have spent the last six and a half years in politics

outraged at the fact that there's people in our communities who can't get by.

So many of them rely upon food banks and upon food pantries and they can only do so much wonderful work.

But for so many other people who don't want to access those facilities or who can't access those facilities,

they're going into the shops and they're seeing prices balloon absolutely go through the roof

and I think it's absolutely incumbent upon politicians of all colours in

that context to try and ensure

that people's basic needs the ability to feed themselves can be

met now what we are seeking to do is bring forward

legislation in the first 100 days of this new government to to ensure

that that we can cap the price of some specific items

that we all find in our shops and

that people really need in order to have a good healthy

balanced diet I think that's a pretty noble thing to do I think it's the right thing to do

and I'm at a loss as to why an individual who

sits in the house of lords would seek to have a disagreement with

that maybe it's because he's completely out of touch with working people in this nation.

Explain to us how it works, Stephen.

So who would make up the price differential?

So if you've got something that is costing,

let's say, I don't know,

a pound at the moment,

and you want to reduce that,

who is going to make up that shortfall?

Is it the farmers?

Is it the supply chain?

Is it the supermarkets?

Who's going to make up that shortfall?

Well, I'm pretty familiar,

and I'm sure everyone in the audience is pretty familiar with some of the enormous bonuses

that have been awarded to people who sit at the top of these retail giants.

I think there's certainly space within those companies given the sheer size

and scale of them to absorb a little bit of pain in order for the gain or good to be net.

Even if they cut their bonuses to zero it wouldn't cover the cost.

Seriously who's going to cover the cost?

So the challenge

that we are setting them rightly is to do their bit to look after our fellow citizens

and I think that's the right thing to do.

And how will you make sure it doesn't impact farmers?

There's obviously going to be anxiety amongst people in our farming communities

and our fishing communities and we'll be making sure

that we consult with them fully because they're hugely important to Scotland's economy

and Scotland's supply chain but

so too are people who need good healthy balanced diets in our country

and we should be looking after them as a government.

Thomas?

The reality is the SNP's plan was a gimmick.

This was used during the election campaign to try and grab some headlines because the SNP needed something to try and do.

That's exactly what this policy is.

We've seen this in history,

and it's never really worked.

All that ends up happening is people end up going to buy food in bulk.

We've seen farmers that get into trouble.

We've seen small retailers that then struggle as well.

This isn't just going to hit big supermarkets.

And the reality is this is a stushy that the SNP are looking to fight with with Westminster.

That's what they're trying to do here.

That's what Stephen's trying to do.

The legislation he brings forward is not competent within the devolution settlement.

It's going to have a fight in terms of the Internal Work Act.

So there's going to be a fight with Westminster.

That's what the SNP want because they consistently live off grieving machines in grievance fights with Westminster.

I don't want to see that.

What I want to see,

because what Stephen said about the cost of living is absolutely right.

It was the number one issue when we were travelling about the country,

campaigning over the past few months,

was people were saying that they couldn't make ends meet.

So here's an idea.

Let's cut taxes.

Let's put money back in your pockets.

Let's end the gimmicks.

Let's end the gimmicks and the headline grabbing,

and let's just finally put money back in people's pockets,

because right here in Scotland, we are overly taxed we're overly bureaucratic,

let's put more money into your pockets,

create economic growth and invest in jobs.

That's how you tackle poverty.

Man in the blue shirt.

It's a good idea to make sure that people can afford a balanced diet,

but in an area like this where there's so much local produce,

100

you don't have big supermarkets necessarily in the middle of the supply chain.

101

If you've got quality produce being produced and the costs involved in

102

that

103

because the costs in production are usually outwith the control of

104

the producers fuel costs due to global pressures how then are

105

you going to encourage producers to continue to produce the good

106

stuff i appreciate what you say mr flynn regarding the supermarkets etc

107

but do you really think they're voluntarily going to cut their profit margins they'll pass it on to the people

108

that are dependent on selling their products to the supermarkets,

109

and it's them that will end up out of pocket.

110

The man further back.

111

Yep, the new government there,

112

I think it would be a suggestion to take a step back,

113

look at the root causes of where these problems are coming from.

114

We're having increases in minimum wages,

115

other expenditure that for businesses is constantly rising and rising,

116

which in turn puts that additional cost onto the overall food cost.

117

So I think taking a step back and looking at it from a further back angle would be a suggestion.

118

Woman there with the glasses.

119

Yes, with the glasses.

120

What product are you going to actually cook back on?

121

There's staple diet, potatoes, bread, milk.

122

Today I heard on the radio that they were going to cut prices on imported biscuits.

123

So I think we're getting two things conflated here.

124

So what you've got is the SNP suggesting a compulsory legislation to reduce the prices of certain goods,

125

yet to be ascertained exactly which they are as I understand it.

126

What you've got is the government in Westminster cutting tariffs on certain goods that are imported.

127

So let's find out more about that.

128

Kirstie, what difference is that going to make?

129

So a direct answer to the question,

130

no I don't think we should adopt a mandatory proposal

131

and Stephen Flynn says that the SNP government will consult on this

132

and consult with farmers and hear what they have to say but they've already told us what they have to say.

133

Farmers and retailers have already told us that they don't believe that this is a workable proposal.

134

Is that why you dropped the idea of,

135

I mean it was quite clear in Westminster that there politicians briefing it out,

136

that the government was looking at introducing something very similar to what the S&P is suggesting,

137

but on a voluntary basis.

138

Then all the retailers went,

139

you must be joking, this is a crazy idea,

140

and suddenly everyone went very quiet.

141

What the UK government was doing,

142

as you would expect and hope,

143

was in ongoing dialogue with the supermarkets,

144

because you are right to say,

145

Mary, that the cost of living is the number one question facing everyone right across Scotland and right across the UK.

146

So of course we are in dialogue with supermarkets about how to bring down prices.

147

There's two things already in train.

148

One is the cutting of tariffs on a range of goods that we hope will bring down food prices.

149

We also have the EU deal that will be coming on stream this summer

150

that the supermarkets have said will bring down food prices.

151

But we have to bring down the price of a number of things that make up pressures on family finances,

152

which is why we've also done work on the £150 of energy bills.

153

It's by the Chancellor today announced a series of summer savings

154

so that families can look forward to the summer holidays with excitement

155

and optimism and not dread as so many of us parents feel right now

156

that it's a time

157

when we don't know how we're going to be able to

158

get the child care we don't know how we're going to be able to okay

159

but let's come back to the tariffs because last time um

160

and this is under the conservative government

161

but last time VAT was abolished on something it was tampons

162

as it turns out um the savings were not passed on to customers

163

so how can you guarantee that these cuts in tariffs will be passed on to customers.

164

Well, as I say, there's a whole package of measures that have been announced today.

165

I know, and you've told us about those

166

but in terms of cutting the terrace on food how can

167

you guarantee that's going to be passed on to customers well

168

so there's an ongoing challenge and we've heard it from the audience

169

that there always has to be dialogue with retailers to make sure

170

that savings are passed on but can you guarantee an unworkable mandatory scheme

171

which as we've already heard is not incompetence of the scottish government

172

and the scottish government okay can you guarantee the people sitting

173

here who for example go south you know the board is not

174

that far who goes south the border to buy things

175

when they're there can you guarantee that as a result of the tariffs

176

that you are reducing or abolishing

177

that they will notice a cut in the value of the things

178

that they are buying i believe i believe

179

that life will become more affordable as well of the tariff cuts

180

and a number of other measures that we have introduced not just today

181

but um in the past few days the extension of the

182

freeze on fugitive for example there's a package of measures harriet

183

i completely understand the sentiment of why both governments want to make the cost of living more more affordable

184

and that's completely right we do need to look at cost

185

of living it's what impacts everybody every day it's what people worry about

186

when they go to work when they open their pay slip But this capping prices,

187

whether mandatory or voluntary, is not the way to do it because it's not going to work.

188

As we've already heard, how will the prices be passed on?

189

Where will these costs actually land?

190

And we're sitting here in Dumfries,

191

in the heart of the dairy farming sector in Scotland.

192

Our dairy farmers here, they know that they will pay the price for this,

193

as with the rest of our farmers.

194

And it's not a surprise that the farming community are so worried about this.

195

because in the last almost two years since Labour came to power,

196

they've been hit time and time again.

197

It was either the family farm tax or the fertiliser tax or tax on their pickups.

198

They know what to expect when Labour start looking at price caps because they know it's going to land in their pockets.

199

Similarly, when we look at the overall cost of doing business,

200

both governments have been hitting businesses over and over again,

201

whether it's a huge increase in business rates that we've seen under both the SNP and Labour,

202

whether it's the Employment Rights Bill,

203

which has put a huge amount more bureaucracy,

204

the national insurance increases that has made the cost of doing business so much more expensive.

205

It's not a surprise that prices are rising when the cost of doing business is rising.

206

So what the government should be doing is looking at cutting bureaucracy,

207

cutting red tape, reducing the cost of doing businesses,

208

so those margins do not have to be made up in other ways.

209

And it's right that consumers are concerned about how much food costs.

210

but putting some sort of cap on food which is not possible

211

and as we say will not actually result in the savings that they think is not the way to do it.

212

There are countries that do it,

213

so Croatia, Hungary, France has put in place a scheme doing it.

214

And in many of these places we see food shortages

215

if all the products go on it and then in which case it then just doubles up.

216

So we as I say the way to do this is

217

to reduce the cost of doing business take away those big costs

218

which means that price has got which means inflation goes up there's a reason why

219

and at the time the general election inflating was 2% is now higher than

220

that much higher than that that's because the cost of doing business

221

and therefore the cost of essentials has gone up over the

222

last couple of years can I just ask is there anyone

223

since you've mentioned farmers is there one for anyone connected to

224

the farming community here at all right let's hear from the

225

woman at the back you are in the blue sweater are you yes let's hear from you

226

and then did you were you in the glass yes in

227

that man yes off you go

228

so what do you think about this idea from the s yeah well well i think

229

that if the smp government wants to implement

230

that you really need to make sure that we're going to guarantee

231

that this isn't going to affect farmers and their prices you know going forward

232

because we're we're always affected by loads of other global pressures minimum wage

233

and everything else like that so how can you guarantee

234

that farmers won't suffer okay i'll get you to answer

235

that in a minute let's just hear from the man in

236

the glasses you're what's your relation to farming then yeah we have a relatively small farm um wife

237

and i can't afford to employ anyone

238

because it just wouldn't be commercial uh to do so uh

239

and it washes its face uh but it washes its face

240

because we are contributing So we both have full-time jobs as well as making the farm work.

241

And when you're then adding on cost of living costs and all the costs that operate around and about the farm,

242

it's just not feasible.

243

And that's then if you're asking us to cap prices,

244

whether it be animals going to market,

245

whether it be produce that we are selling on, it's just not feasible.

246

So you're actually then strangling business and actually adding to the cost that you're trying to actually save.

247

And I just wonder if there's a side angle to this,

248

that the Scottish National Party are very progressive with their taxation, for example.

249

And they have these powers,

250

but they don't seem to use them in a way

251

that would actually make a difference to actually everyone that they're supposed to represent,

252

whatever the political flag.

253

Okay.

254

So, this policy is not something the SNP has come up with overnight.

255

It was in the manifesto.

256

Clearly, the impact on farmers must have been something that you have considered.

257

So can you guarantee these people here,

258

farmer, and you're a farmer as well,

259

that their margins will not be affected by this compulsory cap?

260

So the commitment that I can make to you today,

261

and I think it's an important one,

262

is, and I say this knowing that the First Minister himself represents a rural constituency

263

and is heavily embedded in the issues which have rightly been raised in respect of the challenges facing our farming community,

264

is that we will do everything we possibly can to get this right,

265

get this right for the people who require the ability to afford food and indeed...

266

That doesn't mean anything to them.

267

You're saying we'll try and get it right.

268

What I'm asking you very specifically is can you guarantee that they will not lose money as a result of this cap?

269

The commitment that I can give to you,

270

which I think is very important,

271

is to make sure that we get this right for you so that we don't have these impacts,

272

but we also get this right for the people who can't afford the basic essentials of life of life.

273

All the other panellists I have listened to so far,

274

although Ross might disagree with them, want something to happen.

275

But none of them are saying how they are immediately going to help people in a cost of living crisis.

276

And you have made that point, Stephen.

277

What you have not done is guarantee that they won't lose out.

278

And the people have elected us to deliver on this,

279

and that's exactly what we are going to do.

280

So it's not going to be another broken promise?

281

In the last election, you saw the promise of teachers,

282

promise of free stuff, promise of everything over and over again.

283

The SNP always made a promise.

284

So the price cap on food,

285

is that the mandatory price cap on food brought into legislation,

286

do you support that idea?

287

A price cap would be difficult,

288

but we should be trying to do difficult things.

289

This is one of the richest countries in the history of the world,

290

and yet we have thousands and thousands of children who go to school hungry each morning because of food poverty.

291

So yes, Delivering a price cap that makes sure that farmers,

292

fishers, other producers don't lose out is going to be difficult.

293

It's not nearly as difficult as being that child who goes to school on an empty stomach.

294

So I want us to deliver a price cap

295

that actually reduces the costs for everyone who needs to put food on the table,

296

but that also manages to make sure that farmers,

297

fishers, other producers don't lose out and I have a lot of sympathy with the arguments they're making.

298

Who I don't have any sympathy with are the,

299

when we talk about the retailers,

300

the voice of retailers in this debate is the voice of the big supermarkets, not small businesses.

301

Tesco just reported, what, £2 billion in profits?

302

This is an incredibly lucrative time to be a supermarket right now.

303

So I don't have a lot of sympathy with them here.

304

I think we should be trying to come up with a price cap that makes food affordable for ordinary people,

305

that still gets the balance right for your farmers, fishers, other producers.

306

The reality here, the problem that we've got in the system is in the middle.

307

It's supermarkets who are still making obscene profits out of the fact that they can keep charging people more and more.

308

Because in a lot of communities across the country,

309

the only place that you can go,

310

the only place that you can go to get your shopping is a supermarket.

311

You're at the mercy of whatever prices they set.

312

That's the issue that we've got here.

313

And it's not just in the case of basic foodstuffs.

314

Think of how much we're all paying in our taxes to deal with the cost

315

and the damage that's done to people's health through alcohol, for example.

316

Supermarkets sell huge amounts of cheap alcohol.

317

They make a massive profit off of that.

318

They're not contributing their fair share towards the impact that then has on the health service.

319

So we should get the balance right here.

320

We should be doing something that makes sure affordable food is on people's plates,

321

that farmers and fishers don't lose out.

322

But let's not forget the people in the middle jumping up

323

and down the most about this are supermarkets posting multi-billion pound profits right now.

324

Okay.

325

All right.

326

Let's move on to another question.

TRENDING

쉐도잉이란? 영어 실력을 빠르게 키우는 과학적 방법

쉐도잉(Shadowing)은 원래 전문 통역사 훈련을 위해 개발된 언어 학습 기법으로, 다언어 학자인 Dr. Alexander Arguelles에 의해 대중화된 방법입니다. 핵심 원리는 간단하지만 매우 강력합니다: 원어민의 영어를 들으면서 1~2초의 짧은 지연으로 즉시 소리 내어 따라 말하는 것——마치 '그림자(shadow)'처럼 화자를 따라가는 것입니다. 문법 공부나 수동적인 청취와 달리, 쉐도잉은 뇌와 입 근육이 동시에 실시간으로 영어를 처리하고 재현하도록 훈련합니다. 연구에 따르면 이 방법은 발음 정확도, 억양, 리듬, 연음, 청취력, 말하기 유창성을 크게 향상시킵니다. IELTS 스피킹 준비와 자연스러운 영어 소통을 원하는 분들에게 특히 효과적입니다.

☕ 커피 한 잔 사주기

ShadowingEnglish는 여러분의 지원 덕분에 100% 무료로 운영됩니다. 서버 및 AI 유지 비용이 많이 듭니다. 여러분의 커피 한 잔이 큰 힘이 됩니다! ��

PayPal로 기부하기

ShadowingEnglish.com – 영어 쉐도잉 연습

쉐도잉(Shadowing)으로 원어민처럼 영어를 말하세요. YouTube 영상을 한 문장씩 듣고 따라 말하며, 진짜 발음과 유창성을 키우세요. IELTS 학습자들이 선택한 방법.

쉐도잉 연습: Are food price caps necessary or doomed to fail? | BBC Question Time - YouTube로 영어 말하기 배우기

인기 동영상

왜 이 영상을 통해 말하기 연습을 해야 할까요?

문맥 속의 문법 및 표현

자주 발생하는 발음 트랩

쉐도잉이란? 영어 실력을 빠르게 키우는 과학적 방법

쉐도잉 연습: Are food price caps necessary or doomed to fail? | BBC Question Time - YouTube로 영어 말하기 배우기

앱 다운로드

왜 이 영상을 통해 말하기 연습을 해야 할까요?

문맥 속의 문법 및 표현

자주 발생하는 발음 트랩

쉐도잉이란? 영어 실력을 빠르게 키우는 과학적 방법