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Today's presentation is something that I've struggled with for the last seven years.
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Today's presentation is something that I've struggled with for the last seven years.
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From the moment that I arrived here to even today,
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and I've gotten better of course,
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which is to be interested, to be interesting.
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Those two words are very different and I'll explain what I mean by that.
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And the first one, to be interested,
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is the first most important step
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that you can take in your own journey of discovering your own identity and your own purpose,
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especially professionally but also personally.
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So I'm going to start with a story from when I was 17 years old,
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18 years old, which was that my high school senior year teacher,
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she asked the whole class of about 30 to write letter to themselves.
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And that letter to themselves would include all the goals that they would hope to achieve over the next 10 years.
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And then she would send that letter back to us after 10 years to see
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and reflect if we achieved those goals that we thought were possible when we were 18.
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I can start by saying I accomplished none of them.
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Very interesting goals now that I read them again,
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but none of them were that I wasn't interested in them now that I think about it.
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So why did I even pick them in the first quiz?
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I'm going to share a few of them.
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So the first one was to learn a new language.
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So I speak English, I speak Vietnamese, I speak Spanish.
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I spoke Spanish, I learned Spanish,
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not because I was interested in it,
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because my dad forced me to.
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I lived in California where apparently everybody has to speak Spanish,
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which is useful by the way.
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But anyways, that was in my letter,
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one of my goals, to learn a new language beyond that didn't happen.
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The next goal was to become a top student.
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I was the valedictorian of my high school class,
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the number one student, and that university,
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top student at university, and I was in the bottom 50% of my university class.
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I didn't achieve that.
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The next one was to become a star musician.
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Like most Vietnamese Americans, I was forced to learn piano.
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And somehow that was interpreted as me being a successful pianist in the future if I continued down that route.
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But I quickly learned I was not interested in it.
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And I wouldn't be for the next 10 years. So that didn't happen.
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And the last one that I'll share today was the idea
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that I would have a career at a company that I was proud to be at.
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A big tech company.
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I'm from Silicon Valley and my dad was one of the founding engineers of a very successful company.
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My brother, similar.
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I thought I would follow that path, it didn't happen.
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Actually, my first job out of university, I was laid off.
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I lost my job after 18 months.
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And I'll share more about that as well.
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So when I look at all those goals in that letter, I realized, wow.
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Well, not only did I fail at all of them, but why?
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It's because I wasn't interested in any of them.
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And I'll share a little bit later about what goals I was actually interested in,
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now that I reflect on it,
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and why it's led me to be more interesting today.
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And what I realize, now that I reflect on those 10 years,
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it's been a bit more than 10 years now,
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actually, is that this has been a journey,
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and it continues to be.
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of getting rid of this sense of entitlement.
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Society puts all these labels on us,
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and the media likes to talk about,
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which is ironic because I run a media company,
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tells you all about the success stories and what you should and can be.
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But it's important to kind of set your own interests,
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and then you will too be interesting.
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Because when I wrote that letter,
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and also when I moved to Vietnam when I was 23,
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I was not an interesting person.
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Because I was so obsessed with what people thought I should be rather than what I should have been myself.
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And I'll talk about, you know,
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the organizers invite me today.
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A lot of people ask me,
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why did you move to Vietnam?
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I moved seven years ago.
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You had everything going for you, which I did.
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I had a high-flying tech job in California, good family.
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My entire family lives there, all the good stuff.
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But when I moved to Vietnam,
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I realized that no one knew who I was.
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I literally didn't know anybody.
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And no one really cared either.
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Why would they care about you?
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You can tell them all these stories about how interesting you are
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and how much you deserve because you have that fancy degree or this or that.
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Those are good things too,
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by the way, including RMIT.
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But more importantly, you should be interested in the stories that you can learn from other people to be interested in yourself,
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especially for young people.
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And when you move to a new place,
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you go to a new university,
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a new job, be engaged.
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And that was something that I was very lucky to have.
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I didn't know this lesson,
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by the way, back then,
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so in retrospect, it worked out.
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So I'm going to tell a quick story about how I ended it even in Vietnam in the first place.
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So seven years now.
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This is an email from almost exactly seven years ago.
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I read on the Wall Street Journal,
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BBC or whatever it was,
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about this new venture capital fund that had just opened an office in Vietnam.
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I was so shocked.
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I was like, why would anyone do that?
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This was seven years ago, keep in mind.
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Different story now.
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And so I wrote to the partners.
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I had just come back from a trip to Vietnam, actually.
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I lost my job, as I mentioned.
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I took like a six-week kind of find-myself journey.
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And Vietnam was one of the stops.
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And I realized how the dynamic of a country was.
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As a Vietnamese-American, I didn't know very much about it.
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So I decided to engage more and when I went back to the US after this trip,
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I started researching, found these great guys,
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these two idols, people that I could see myself becoming as well in 10,
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20 years down the line.
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And I was like, why are they doing this?
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I want to know.
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So I sent this short email,
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just really short, I tried to not focus on myself too much,
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I just want to learn what they're doing and how I can get involved.
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And they actually replied.
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I was really surprised.
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These two people are super busy.
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You know, that's a lesson for you guys, by the way.
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When you send emails, keep it nice and short.
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Especially people that you think aren't busy.
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Keep it short.
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The shorter, the better.
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And they replied.
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And I remember I met with one of them,
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Bin, who is, I'm very grateful for to this day.
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A few days later we met for coffee and I remember asking him about what you're doing out there,
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you know, how can I get involved?
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He's like, how?
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Just stay where you are.
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You've got a great resume,
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you'll get another job quickly,
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which I did, and you don't want to come to Vietnam.
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And I was like, why?
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He's like, how?
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To be honest, I can't afford you.
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I said, try me.
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So he offered me $6 million a month. $250.
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That's a lot less than some of you will be making when you graduate.
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And I remember such a shock to my system because I was like,
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wow, I've worked two years full-time, right?
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Am I going to really do this?
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Am I going to take that bet on myself?
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And I did.
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But before accepting, I asked,
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can you pay for my flight?
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They ended up paying for half of my flight.
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But anyways, the lesson here,
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we look up to these idols,
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and some of them will be speaking later today as well.
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It's about being interested in what they have to know, what they know.
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Not just proving why you're interesting,
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but if you can ask the right questions,
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get them excited to share what they're going to talk about,
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like you will hear today,
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you too will be in that same position when the time comes.
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Anyways, I'm going to fast forward a little bit.
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So I moved to Vietnam for the job,
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venture capital, and within a couple months I realized,
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I was like, wow, I'm here for one year,
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I can't be just doing this,
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I've got to get out there and learn a little bit more about education,
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about food and beverage, about music,
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about all these different things.
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And that's how Vietcetera started,
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just a little blog, I would just write.
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One of the first people I met was the founders of Maru Chocolate,
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an artisanal chocolate brand here.
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I'm sure a lot of you have tried it or at least heard of it.
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And again, keep in mind,
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I was 23 years old and I was like,
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wow, I got to meet these people, yes!
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I just was so obsessed with the fact that I could put on Instagram that I met these people
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that I totally forgot that I should actually listen to the interview
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that I was doing with them so I met with them I drafted the article
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and it's still online you can read it later
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and I sent it to them before publishing again it's the first ever article I wrote back in whatever
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and they didn't reply for a week and I felt so sad I was like,
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why didn't I not reply?
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So I called them.
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I was like, yo, what's going on?
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And they replied with a very short email.
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How?
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To be honest, the article is terrible.
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And I panicked when I read that email.
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Keep in mind, I was 23 at the time.
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Looking up to my eyes, I was like, why?
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I heard the transcript of recording again.
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And I realized I wasn't listening.
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I wasn't engaged.
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I was just so obsessed with the fact that I was there.
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It was like a one-way conversation almost.
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Of course they were talking,
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but I felt like I was trying to prove myself so much about why I'm doing this company,
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this blog, why it matters,
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and I was like, just shut up.
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Just let them talk, because they have so much to share.
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A decade of experience making chocolate,
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entrepreneurship, branding, learn from these people.
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And that's what I did.
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So I fixed their article,
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sent it back to them.
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They're like, how?
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You did a 360.
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And today, actually, Maru Chocolates is one of our clients.
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So I like to tell that story sometimes at conferences,
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Vincent is still at.
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He laughs all the time.
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It's a great reflection, right?
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Anyways, the point I was trying to make there guys is when meeting anybody,
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they could be younger than you,
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older than you, more experienced,
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an entrepreneur, a future relationship, anything.
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Be interested in something so that you have something to share rather than trying to prove that you're interesting.
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And that's the idea about storytelling, right?
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It's about being interested.
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authentically curious, and you yourself will be interesting as well.
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So how does one go about doing this?
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That's the key question.
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And the rule is very simple.
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Stop trying to be interesting and focus on being interested.
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These are my interests.
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Compare them to the letters that I wrote.
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I wrote.
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I wanted to be a top student.
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I wanted to be a star musician,
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learn a bunch of languages.
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That sounds all nice and dandy.
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These may be a little bit more dry.
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Maybe?
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I don't know.
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But actually, if you ask me about these, I can talk endlessly.
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Apparently, I'm like a huge World War II history buff.
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Only like 60 year old dads are supposed to be, but I am.
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So if you ask me,
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I can give you all that.
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I love good design.
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I love travel, business, airline points.
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It's a very specific one.
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If you want to learn how to maximize your travel,
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you can ask me and I'll talk about it for hours.
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I've written blogs about it actually.
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And because I've realized over this,
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especially since moving to Vietnam,
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this journey of what am I interested in,
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I myself have now become more capable of sharing knowledge
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and quote-unquote being interesting that's I guess why I'm here to talk right
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but you asked me about languages music I just don't know
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anything I'm sorry can't help you you'll be bored to death
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so the next time you meet someone
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that you you want to learn something from you just want to meet you want to have
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that good conversation you got to get that good mutual energy transfer.
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Ask them, what are you working on that you're most excited about?
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And this question could apply to a personal relationship,
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could be a family member,
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you know, future boyfriend or girlfriend, business partner.
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And hopefully they come back with something so exciting that they love,
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that you feel inspired to,
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and you also will be interested in, interesting in.
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Thank you so much, everybody.
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Thank you.
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Contexto & Antecedentes
Na palestra "Be Interested, to Be Interesting", Hao Tran compartilha suas reflexões sobre a importância de encontrar interesses genuínos em nossa vida pessoal e profissional. Ele narra experiências de sua juventude, como a tarefa de escrever uma carta para si mesmo com metas a serem alcançadas em dez anos. Ao revisitar essas metas, Hao percebe que muitas não foram perseguidas por falta de real interesse. Essa introspecção é uma oportunidade valiosa para os aprendizes de inglês entenderem como as experiências pessoais moldam nossa jornada e influenciam nossa capacidade de nos comunicarmos efetivamente.
Top 5 Frases para Comunicação Diária
- "I have accomplished none of them." - Refletindo sobre metas não alcançadas.
- "I wasn't interested in them." - Compreendendo a importância do interesse nas escolhas pessoais.
- "I learned Spanish, not because I was interested in it." - A diferença entre obrigação e interesse.
- "I quickly learned I was not interested in it." - Reconhecendo a falta de paixão em atividades forçadas.
- "Why did I even pick them in the first place?" - Questionando nossas decisões e sua relevância.
Guia Passo a Passo de Shadowing
Para melhorar sua pronúncia em inglês e absorver melhor a mensagem de Hao Tran, siga este guia de shadowing em inglês:
- Escolha a Parte do Vídeo: Selecione uma seção da palestra que ressoe com você. As frases acima são ótimos pontos de partida.
- Ouça Atentamente: Preste atenção na pronúncia de Hao e na entonação de suas palavras. Isso ajudará você a entender como transmitir emoções e ênfases.
- Repita em Voz Alta: Experimente o shadowspeak. Fale junto com a gravação, tentando imitar a forma como Hao articula suas ideias.
- Grave sua Voz: Após praticar, grave-se reproduzindo as partes escolhidas. Isso permitirá que você ouça seu progresso e identifique áreas de melhoria.
- Avalie e Pratique: Revise a gravação e compare com a original. Note as diferenças na pronúncia e trabalhe nelas para melhorar a pronúncia em inglês.
A prática constante através de shadowspeaks e shadowing em inglês pode fazer uma grande diferença no desenvolvimento de suas habilidades de comunicação. Esteja sempre aberto a aprender e a se interessar genuinamente pelas histórias e experiências que você encontra ao longo do caminho.
O que é a Técnica de Shadowing?
Shadowing é uma técnica de aprendizado de idiomas com base científica, originalmente desenvolvida para o treinamento de intérpretes profissionais. O método é simples, mas poderoso: você ouve áudio em inglês nativo e repete imediatamente em voz alta — como uma sombra seguindo o falante com 1-2 segundos de atraso. Pesquisas mostram melhora significativa na precisão da pronúncia, entonação, ritmo, sons conectados, compreensão auditiva e fluência na fala.
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