Prática de Shadowing: Why Hope Takes Courage, And What It Means To Be Selected For Oprah's Book Club - Ocean Vuong - Aprenda a falar inglês com o YouTube
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Welcome back, everybody.
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Folks, my next guest tonight is a New York Times best-selling
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author who has been nominated for the National Book Award and won the MacArthur Genius Grant.
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His new novel is The Emperor of Gladness.
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Please welcome to The Late Show, Ocean Vuong.
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Hi, nice to meet you.
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Hi, good to meet you.
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Thanks for being here.
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Thank you so much.
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It's an honor.
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In May, you released your highly anticipated second novel, The Emperor of Gladness.
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It was an instant New York Times bestseller,
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and it was selected for Oprah's Book Club.
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For those who haven't read it yet, what is it about?
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Well, it starts with a young man who's standing on the edge of a bridge contemplating jumping.
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And he's stopped by an 82-year-old woman with dementia,
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and they end up living together in the course of a year.
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And I think suicide is a very deeply personal subject for me.
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I lost my uncle when he was just 28 years old.
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I was 24.
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He was like a brother to me.
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And I think at the core of it,
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suicide is still an act of hope.
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One does it with the hope of ending tremendous suffering.
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I would go on to say it's a hopelessly hopeful act.
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And what was really interesting to me was,
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what happens for someone who chooses to step away from the ledge right back into a corner?
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How do you choose life without the tools for living?
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And it was a question I never got to ask my uncle.
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And I think fiction at its core gives us a technology to ask questions we never get to ask in life,
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or is too costly, or the chances are fleeting.
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You speak in here of...
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You've spoken of the idea of kindness without hope.
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What does that mean?
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Well, the character goes on to work in a fast-food restaurant,
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and I think many Americans have experienced this, myself included worked at a place called Boston Market
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and the elephant in the room in in a place like
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that I think is you're not supposed to ask where do you go after this you know
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if you go to nursing school
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if you go to medical school there's a kind of a even HVAC there's a kind of ascendancy
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that there's a there's an after place but
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when you work in fast food working minimum wage the the the idea
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that you're actually trapped is incredibly palpable for everybody involved
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and I think what you notice then is that everyone is
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so generous with a kind of kindness because they know
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that there is nothing else beyond it
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but they are deeply invested in their own dreams
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and I think what I learned working in fast food
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and most of my life as an American is
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that I'm not interested so much in the American dream as we know it
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so much as Americans who dream
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and in every fast food restaurant you see it's full of
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people with dreams despite not being able to execute them they still hold on to them
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and they strive towards it and i wanted to amplify
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that using what i knew best which is language do you think
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that the dream itself the dreams
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that they have of something else constitutes a form of hope even if it's not a conscious hope 100 i think
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I think hope is a beautiful thing because it's kind of always the North Star.
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And as long as you have that beacon,
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you move towards, and I do this with my students,
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the greatest thing you can do as a teacher
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is to push the horizon back even further because even
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if your students don't reach their goals they still exceed the limits of where they started from the get-go
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and i think this is true with any vocation whether it's in a fast food restaurant
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or writing or entertainment or what have you hope is still the the greatest engine
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and it begins with language it's not empty and the classroom to me is the most hopeful place
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Even before a single person steps into it,
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a teacher or students, the condition of the classroom is aspirational.
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It's a laboratory of possibility and wonder.
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And the teacher's only job is to preserve that so that it does not get demolished by cynicism.
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I think often cynicism can be misread as intelligence in our culture.
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And hope is often the most courageous thing because it means you're all in.
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You know, you've gone all into it.
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Cynicism masquerades as wisdom.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Thank you.
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Well, listen, speaking of hopeful things happening, here you are.
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You were chosen for Oprah's Book Club.
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And I'm just curious...
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That's a great way for more people to see the art that you do.
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Was, I mean, growing up,
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was Oprah a big thing in your house?
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Oh, my gosh.
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It was a big thing in my mom's nail salon, because...
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We were there every day,
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and I had the best English,
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So I ran the phones and you know,
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it's I was so honored to get that call Anytime I get an important call.
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I stand in front of my mother's altar
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and my publisher tricked me They said we're gonna have a pub publicity meeting And I said oh gosh,
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I'm gonna get in trouble So I stood in front of my mother's altar.
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I said ma help me out here And then they said ah Actually,
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we're having some trouble with the line.
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We're gonna call you with an unknown number just pick it up.
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And then I heard the voice and I knew that voice.
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I heard it every day at 4 p.m with my mother.
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And I think what was so beautiful is that my mother,
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you know, she was illiterate her whole life.
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She doesn't know what The New Yorker is.
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She never saw what a literary prize is.
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But the only time she saw a book for the first time was an Oprah show.
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And I think what was so beautiful about that show,
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and even your show, talk shows in general,
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is that you bring culture to working people.
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Because a book, even if you get it free at the library,
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it still takes eight, 10 hours to read.
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And people like my mother worked eight o'clock in the morning to eight at night.
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If a customer walks in at 7.55,
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she has to take them.
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And that's another hour.
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She won't be home till nine.
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And to bring cultural work to the center of people and say,
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you have permission to access this discourse.
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And I watched the women in the nail salon look at that show with the books and say,
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oh, it's about divorce.
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It's about doubt.
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It's about migration.
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It's about trying their best to have kindness as a human being,
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which is an incredibly hard thing to do.
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I know that.
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I don't need to go to school and have a degree to know that.
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I've lived that.
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And I think what was so beautiful for me was that it brought the idea of culture
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and widen it into a town square,
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and that town square happened to be in the middle of a nail salon in Hartford County.
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What luck.
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Ocean, thank you so much for being here.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for sharing your story.
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Thank you.
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The Emperor of Gladness is available now.
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Ocean Huang, everybody.
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We'll be right back.
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Contexto & Antecedentes
Ocean Vuong é um autor aclamado, reconhecido por suas obras que exploram temas profundos e pessoais, como a esperança, o sofrimento e a busca por significado. Em sua recente aparição no programa "The Late Show", ele discutiu seu novo romance, "The Emperor of Gladness", que aborda questões sensíveis como o suicídio e a generosidade em ambientes de trabalho desafiadores. Essa conversa não só apresentou seu trabalho, mas também revelou insights sobre a natureza humana e as escolhas que fazemos em momentos de crise. O diálogo entre o apresentador e Ocean oferece uma oportunidade valiosa para estudantes de inglês que buscam uma forma mais envolvente de aprimorar suas habilidades linguísticas através do aprendizado ativo e da prática.
As 5 Principais Frases para Comunicação Diária
- "Hi, nice to meet you." - Uma saudação comum usada ao conhecer alguém.
- "Thank you so much." - Uma forma educada de expressar gratidão.
- "It's an honor." - Uma expressão de humildade e reconhecimento quando se recebe um convite ou uma oportunidade.
- "I think suicide is a very deeply personal subject for me." - Uma declaração que expressa vulnerabilidade e a importância de discutir tópicos difíceis.
- "How do you choose life without the tools for living?" - Uma pergunta retórica que incita reflexão sobre a vida e suas complexidades.
Guia Passo a Passo para Prática de Shadowing
Para aqueles que desejam aprender inglês com youtube e se aprimorar na técnica de "shadowing", siga este guia prático:
- Escolha um vídeo: Selecione este vídeo de Ocean Vuong para começar. O conteúdo é rico e repleto de emoções.
- Assista com legendas: Veja o vídeo inicialmente com legendas para facilitar a compreensão do contexto e das falas.
- Escute atentamente: Preste atenção na pronúncia, entonação e ritmo das falas durante a conversa.
- Repita após o falante: Use a técnica de shadowing, imitando o falante assim que ele terminar uma frase. Isso ajudará a melhorar sua fluência.
- Grave-se: Grave sua prática para escutar sua pronúncia e identificar áreas que precisam de melhorias.
Integrar o shadowing em inglês na sua rotina de estudos pode ser uma ferramenta poderosa. Tente praticar diariamente e explore diferentes vídeos em um shadowing site que ofereça uma variedade de conteúdos. Ao se dedicar a essa prática, além de desenvolver sua capacidade de fala, você também aprofundará sua compreensão da cultura e das emoções que permeiam a linguagem. Lembre-se, a chave é a consistência e a paciência ao longo do seu aprendizado.
O que é a Técnica de Shadowing?
Shadowing é uma técnica de aprendizado de idiomas com base científica, originalmente desenvolvida para o treinamento de intérpretes profissionais. O método é simples, mas poderoso: você ouve áudio em inglês nativo e repete imediatamente em voz alta — como uma sombra seguindo o falante com 1-2 segundos de atraso. Pesquisas mostram melhora significativa na precisão da pronúncia, entonação, ritmo, sons conectados, compreensão auditiva e fluência na fala.
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