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Ladies and gentlemen, that's a picture wrap on Bill Skarsgård.
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Ladies and gentlemen, that's a picture wrap on Bill Skarsgård.
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Let's give him a hand.
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I remember when we wrapped the first movie,
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the last day of the shoot,
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feeling like we did something special here.
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Cheers, guys.
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But you don't dare to trust that feeling,
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because you're like, what if you're wrong?
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What if this is a disaster,
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and what if your performance is a disaster?
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but then it shattered every expectation I think anyone had on it.
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Obviously, it's a big deal to see that your vision succeeded.
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It also gives you a lot of confidence for the bets that you're making on the second one.
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Because you know what works and what doesn't.
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Andy and I were talking about potential ideas for the sequel even
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when we were doing the first one because we knew that we were going to do the second one.
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And action.
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Yeah, that's beautiful.
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The chapter two.
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I always wanted to make a scarier movie and crank up the horror aspects of it.
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It was strange, because I'd been away from Pennywise for almost two years,
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and then Andy wanted me to do a test for a VFX motion capture thing.
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I've been away from the character for so long.
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It's gonna be strange just like to go right back into it.
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And I got the scene like the night before,
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and Andy's on Skype because he's already in Toronto for pre-production.
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He goes, you know, okay, action, you know.
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And action!
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Pennywise is just ever-present and just like exploded out of me.
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I was surprised how much of him was just still there,
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was just still there, because the first movie was so much for me was to figure out who the character was.
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With Bill, he put so much of him into the creation.
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The nuances in his face.
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The spark in his eyes.
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I really love sitting down with him and talking for hours about the character and the possibilities.
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27 years, I dreamt of you,
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I craved you, I missed you,
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waiting for this very moment.
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Time to flow.
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In my preparation for the role the first time,
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I applied all these sort of crazy psychology to the character.
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There's a lot of scenes with Pennywise where it's just a physicality or a very technical thing.
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And come on!
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It's a tremendously physical performance.
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He works really hard.
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Just amazing.
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It's balletic.
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It's so good.
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The scenes that I tend to really prefer are the ones where you can be a little bit more...
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Subtle is the wrong word for this character, I think.
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But where you can be a little bit more nuanced, maybe.
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There's definitely more of those scenes in this one than there were in the first one.
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A little closer.
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One, two...
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You okay?
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You okay?
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Let's do it one.
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That's right here.
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The Pennywise that we meet in the second movie is different from the book.
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He's very defensive in the book.
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He's offensive when they're kids,
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and when they come back,
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he's sort of trying to scare them off.
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So that shows weakness instantly,
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because he obviously doesn't want them to be there,
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because they do pose a threat to him because they almost defeated him the first time.
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Grab hands.
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And that works in the book,
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but because of the way we're telling the story now in the two separate films,
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This Pennywise, he really wants them back.
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He's missed them.
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Thank you for bringing them all back.
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I can smell their fear.
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I know what you are.
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That's why I'm not afraid.
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Obviously that would make for a pretty boring movie if all they do is,
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oh, this is what we did the first time and did this exact same thing.
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So for me it was really important that Pennywise needs to be this sort of arch-villain.
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Oh, I know what you are, a madman.
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He needs to be scary and he needs to be threatening.
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So that was one of the challenges that we had to address.
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I used Pennywise as a door opener for all the other things that these kids are scared of.
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And Andy made the right decision to actually broaden the scope
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and the kids see transformations of Pennywise that are his own artistic creations,
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but they still relate to the various fears and phobias of the kids.
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This is Vince Frose.
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Vince is helping me to bring my nightmares to life.
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And he's throwing a lot of his nightmares in, and it's quite scary.
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We have a version of Pennywise where they're weakening him,
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and he starts to deflate.
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So Andy wanted him to be almost like a deflating balloon.
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You're all grown up.
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Andy comes up with these ideas that once you see it and once it's implemented,
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it's just like, oh, this is crazy.
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This is genius.
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I like the fact that I'm trying to convince myself that I'm the leader of the future.
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Yeah, let's do that.
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Absolutely.
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But you're also broken.
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You're broken.
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Yeah.
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The idea was to get a small child to play the body part of Bill.
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And then we had a replica of the kid's body.
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And that was known as Pancake Head.
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This is what is known in Stephen King's universe as the ritual of Chud.
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And the ritual of Chud is when you staple intergalactic entities head to a piece of volcanic...
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Just like that.
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It worked!
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Finally he becomes the spider.
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It's the end of the battle.
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In the first one we had like Pennywise as me.
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We needed to up that, you know?
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Like, they're adults.
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The physicality needs to be more threatening.
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So Andy came up with this creature that he essentially drew,
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which is my face, a gigantic Pennywise face on this sort of spider-esque kind of body.
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Andy's so good with designing creatures.
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I got the Pennywise spider.
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Yeah, you want to see him?
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Yes.
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I really love this frame.
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Vince's contributions to the monster are really cool.
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You can see how he integrated the costume into the anatomy of the spider.
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But I also like the spirit of this drawing because it's grotesque and it's horrifying at the same time.
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Yes!
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Look out!
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Now you're the one who's afraid.
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At the end of the first movie,
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Pennywise for the first time feels fear himself.
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And that's why his last line in the movie is fear.
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It's him realizing what that feeling is.
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Fear.
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So he uses fear to sort of season the flesh, if you will.
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And he instills fear in children and in humans.
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But he never actually understood what that was,
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because he's never felt it before himself.
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And I think that that is scary for him,
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but it's also a thrill.
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There's a craving.
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He craves the losers that are now adults.
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Because if this creature and this entity has lived for millions and millions of years,
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it's a high to have an opponent that's matched him.
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I feel like the way this movie ends,
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at least from my perspective and the character,
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he plants things and there's reasons for why things are happening.
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And when the kids that are now adults,
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when they think they're in control,
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they're actually not in control.
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And this is really scary.
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If you talk about Pennywise's own subconscious or its own subconscious,
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maybe wants to die or wants to cease to exist.
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So at the very end of this movie,
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maybe that was his goal all along.
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And in that sense, Pennywise wins.
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Thank you.
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В этом видео мы погружаемся за кулисы обоих фильмов "Оно", где актер Билл Скарсгард делится своим опытом в роли Пеннивайза. Он говорит о своих ощущениях после завершения съемок первого фильма и его ожиданиях от продолжения. Билл рассказывает о процессе подготовки к роли и о том, как он возвращался к персонажу, с которым проработал почти два года назад. Его размышления освещают трудности и радости, связанные с такой запоминающейся ролью, как Пеннивайз, а также о взаимодействии с режиссером Энди Мушетти.
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- Let's give him a hand. - Давайте поаплодируем ему.
- I remember when we wrapped the first movie. - Я помню, когда мы завершили съемки первого фильма.
- Because you know what works and what doesn't. - Потому что вы знаете, что сработало, а что нет.
- It was strange, because I'd been away from Pennywise for almost two years. - Это было странно, потому что я отсутствовал в роли Пеннивайза почти два года.
- It's a tremendously physical performance. - Это чрезвычайно физическое исполнение.
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