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I'm no historian of Christianity by any means, but my impression is that until somewhere between a century and a half century ago,
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I'm no historian of Christianity by any means, but my impression is that until somewhere between a century and a half century ago,
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Christian thought, Christian teaching was,
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very much front stage was the idea of hell and the idea of punishment.
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I think that has been much less emphasized in the last century or half century.
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If I take what you just said, how important is the idea of punishment?
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I mean, that is making right the innocent people who have suffered on earth is one aspect of justice
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and it's the one that's consoling and pleasant for us to think of if it really is true.
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But the other side of justice is punishment.
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How do you think a modern Christian should think about that question of punishment of those who do evil?
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Well, of course, in the Middle Ages, people's imagination ran riot with Dante and so on.
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But the thing that weighs with me most is something that I remember thinking about when I was very young.
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The central statement in the whole of the Bible about the love of God is something that many people have learned.
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For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whoever believes on him should not perish,
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but have eternal life.
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And I remember being forcibly struck by that, that the strongest assertion of the love of God you get in the whole of the Bible
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contains that statement that it's possible to perish.
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Now, we all wrestle with this because we don't like it.
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We just do not like it, if we're honest.
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But again, I found C.S.
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Lewis very helpful.
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Because when you get rid of all the medieval pictures of hell,
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you'll notice that Jesus preached this mostly to bigoted religious people who thought they had the truth.
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That is very, very remarkable to see that.
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If people say to God, I don't want you.
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When Jesus came, he did wonderful miracles.
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He healed people.
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He brought them back to sanity.
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But sometimes they looked at what they did and said, leave.
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He left.
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he will never invade your personality because that would be to turn you into a robot again
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and the central appeal of Christianity is I just said it
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to you God loved the world he's looking for a response
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he's not looking for people being forced to do something so if they say no he will honor their choice
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Now what does that mean? And C.S.
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Lewis is very helpful here.
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He says you think about it.
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Whether you believe in God or not, for the past year God's been very good to many of us.
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He's put food on our table.
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He's given us our talents that put us in a brilliant university.
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And all the things that have been flowing to us, we may never have said thank you.
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But it is the fact, suppose all that was removed.
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Suppose we say no to God, I don't want you in my life, and God gets out of our life.
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I believe that's what the Bible means, at least in its initial stages by hell.
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It's honoring what we've asked for.
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It's not sending people to hell.
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That is a very dangerously wrong metaphor.
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It's that God honors your choice and if you say no to God, even though it hurts him,
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the cross shows you what he thinks of you and how much he loves you.
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But if you say no, he has got no option but to honor your choice.
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He never forced your stampede into your life.
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So that's how I begin to approach that.
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It is the flip side and it's very important.
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