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and looking back on that experience what do you say to yourself that is we all have done things in our lives and you say i don't know what i was thinking or did not singing or that was a great lesson for me i don't know what do you say to yourself uh...

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holy mother of god

Okay, first of all, I heard he wanted to meet me when I was 18.

I didn't want to because I thought he was a freak.

Immediately, I didn't want to meet him.

I thought he was a freak.

So I was like, ah, I don't want to meet him.

And I ended up going, okay, I'll meet him.

My first impression was that he went very much out of his way to disillusion me.

So he sat me down and said, I know you think this and I think that.

I know you, and he was completely normal.

I'm not gay.

I know you think this.

I know you think that.

And he started cursing, started, you know, being a normal person.

and i was like wow and then within 20 minutes like i immediately went into oh my god you're not the person i thought you were um you're actually really cool

there was a click we we started talking and immediately related to one another and it just kind of went from there because we were

born raised in different situations uh different upbrings i think there was a connection um on that front you know

superstar superstar yeah this fishbowl life odd oddities are different circumstances thing still very vulnerable i have to say i'd been married and had a baby by the time i was 21 and had hadn't really been out there much and didn't know a whole hell of a lot.

He's not stupid.

He didn't get where he was because he's stupid.

It's unfortunate that not a lot of people know who he really is.

When he wants to lock into you, when he wants to intrigue you or capture you or, you know, whatever he wants to do with you, he can do it.

When Michael wants to pull you into his life somehow, he's very good at it.

And then at that point, it was sort of a relationship of like,

I need to talk and and I was sort of like wow me and he's already pulled me in by making me feel like I'm

the one he talks to then you feel protective yeah you know it's a mechanism so I kind

of fell right into that didn't necessarily think it was gonna go

romantic but it did and you know seemingly all fine and real I fell into this whole you poor sweet

misunderstood thing I'm gonna save you you know I fell into that I fell in love with him I did I'm in love yes I fell in love at the time and

he he he fell in love with me and I and I fell in love with him and it was very real how did he ask you to marry him um

we were in the library in front of the fire and he he pulled this giant 10 carat diamond out of his pocket and um put

it on my finger I think he got on his knees as well and proposed um I felt like it was the right I should

do that because it It seemed more maybe that's what I should be doing instead of taking these dear souls and making them feel like they're nothing.

But he wasn't going to be bothered that you were a Presley.

Right.

He was a Jackson.

Right.

So in my mind at the time, I'm thinking I'll marry somebody who's even bigger or is bigger whatever than I am and then I can actually feel like a wife.

I can be next to the man and I can feel more comfortable that way.

I wasn't seeking publicity myself.

I was kind of looking to feel like I can support somebody else that I admired.

I wanted somebody comparable.

Somehow along the way I decided that was a solution.

I thought, okay, I'll get with somebody even bigger than I am and then I won't have to have those problems anymore.

Were people questioning your relationship with him from start?

I mean, your friends and your mom?

Yeah, people weren't really into that one.

I mean, they were trying to say certain things about it, but I needed to figure it out on my own.

Because he was writing this sex abuse scandal and things.

So what did people say to you?

Mostly my mom was just like, you know, look at the timing of this and don't be stupid.

She married the biggest star of her time.

You were gonna marry the biggest music star of your time.

No, I don't think it was that premeditated.

I knew she really didn't want me to do that, and I understand.

At that time, I was still kind of in that mode.

It was just her reaction to my even dating him.

It was like, you know, typical mother-daughter, like, oh, you don't like him?

Good.

He's going to be my husband.

She called me and said, you know, oh, Lisa, there's helicopters outside the house, and they're saying you married Michael Jackson.

and I go, I was just quiet.

And she goes, you didn't.

She goes, you didn't.

Honestly, don't like attention on me.

Loved being next to him and taking care of him.

I was on such a high doing that.

I'm not lying when I say that.

He had something so intoxicating about him.

And when he was on and when he was ready to share with you or give it to you and be himself and allow you to come in, I don't know if I've ever been that intoxicated by anything.

And you did live together?

Yeah.

Well, let's just put it this way.

If he was in town, he was at my house.

I have to ask you this.

Was it a consummated marriage?

Oh, my God, Oprah.

I have to ask that question.

And you all know damn well you want to know.

I mean, it was a real marriage, like, between husband and wife.

It was a consummated marriage.

Yep.

It was.

Okay, that's all.

Sexual attraction?

I told you, everything I said was the truth.

What about the way he looks?

I told you, see?

Now, I'm not attracted to mediocrity or normalcy or things like that.

I think certain things are...

I'm weird.

I don't know.

I'm whacked.

So these were, like, romantic nights?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I don't remember them very well, but yes.

I mean, it was normal.

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I wasn't going to get married if it wasn't that.

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I even remember thinking, how is that going to happen?

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You know, I can't even imagine him like that, whatever.

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And then he quickly disillusioned me of that idea.

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I honestly can tell you that it was every sense a normal marriage, and everything was spoken.

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And, you know, in the middle of the night, if he needed to wake up and tell me and bounce something off me, and I loved taking care of him.

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It was the highest point of my life, one of the very highest points of my life, was when things were going really well and he and I were united together and he and I had an understanding about some of the people and the things that could go around him.

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And he was with me on those things and we were a unit.

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When you have that situation, you have, it's drawbacks, which is you know on the watch as people i didn't like the attention it was like a i mean it was a shit storm i mean i couldn't go anywhere he needed he needed to do his thing i would be there

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uncomfortably like the mtv thing and i heard it was just it's not in my nature to do that sort of thing what a diane saw interview of you and michael was that weird yeah that was a little strange

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it was very strange i mean i was nervous wreck so did you regret doing that i did after It was a little disturbing, startling.

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I was looking into the future and I was thinking, I don't ever want to get into a custody battle with him.

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I don't want to do this.

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I don't want to go head to head with him.

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So I need to make sure that everything around is good.

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I've had children.

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I knew bringing children into certain circumstances, you have to make sure everything's safe and secured and okay.

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And I wanted to make sure that he and I were really, really united because we were going to be up against so much.

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I do feel like there was an agenda there too, though, because I think he wanted children and he wanted her children.

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Ah.

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Mother, what are you doing right now?

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He would tell me.

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He would come tell me.

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If you're not going to do it, Debbie said she'll do it.

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So we would get into it, you know, arguments.

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What about him and drugs?

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I never saw it, but I suspected.

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I don't know them.

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Because there's been talk about painkillers all the way through.

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Um, you know, it's funny because I don't, I never saw it, so I can't answer.

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Did you suspect a drug problem?

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Honestly, I didn't really suspect and catch on.

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You know, there was just an occasion, an incident where he had collapsed and he was in the hospital.

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This is during the HBO.

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It was very confusing what was wrong because every day there was a different report and I couldn't tell what was happening.

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Dehydration, low blood pressure, exhaustion, a virus.

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So I couldn't really get a straight answer as to what was happening with him.

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At that point, I think I really, I got from various indications, I believed that that was going on then.

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How did it end?

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What happened?

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It just kind of went really sour, really fast.

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It sort of started to just dwindle out of control and it went to hell in a handbasket, basically.

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Yeah, there was a very profound point in the marriage when he had to make a decision.

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Was it the drugs and the sort of vampires or me?

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And he pushed me away.

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Vampires?

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Spiders, vampires.

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Sick of it, sucking his blood.

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Sick of it, yeah.

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So you saw that all around him?

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Oh, God, yes.

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But you filed for divorce from Michael.

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Yes.

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And how did you tell him that was it?

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It was when he was, you know, I was off of the phone.

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I'd had enough.

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There was a lot of stuff going on then.

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It got really ugly at the end.

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It wasn't pretty.

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I left him to put in my, to sort of stomp my foot into the ground and go.

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I was trying to take a stand and say, come with me, don't do this.

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And I was a stupid move because he didn't.

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Did he fight you're getting a divorce?

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No, he, I think he got on to, you know, getting somebody else pregnant, right?

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or having a baby.

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That's what he wanted.

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He seemed to get on that pretty quick.

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You know, I don't know.

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You know, I got out and then four days later, I started having chronic panic attacks and just my body just freaked out on me.

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And I, you know, yeah, I was pretty much needed to be mopped up off the floor after that one.

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I was quiet for about a year and I fell apart physically for a while.

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So I went through this whole series of just body falling apart, you know, stress.

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the gallbladder just went to zero function I had to get it taken out I had mono and Epstein bar and that was like just fever that wouldn't

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go away and really ill god so much because it took me a good two years to come out of that you know and I mean physically mentally I really had to um

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I went through a lot to to remove myself out of that you know because you sort of fall into a way of thinking and existing when you're in that bubble and it took me a long time to detach myself We, again, were going to get back together.

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We spent four more years after we divorced, getting back together and breaking up, and talking about getting back together and breaking up.

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And at some point, I had to push it away, because it was just not...

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I wasn't moving forward with myself.

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You said you loved him.

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Do you think he loved you?

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Wow.

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God, it's hard for me to answer that question.

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I don't know.

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the answer to that.

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Do you think that he loved you as much as he could?

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Yes.

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That yes.

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As much as he was capable of loving somebody and all that.

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Yes.

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You know and for whatever reason in my life I had to go through that and I don't know why I had to go through that but I did and I got through it and, you know.

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But I have to say in retrospect that he honestly tried so hard and went through so much with me.

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And I know now, and I look back at it, he's never done that with any other female or anyone.

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I really admire that he really gave it a good shot, you know.

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I didn't appreciate it then, and I wish I did.

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it sort of stigmatized me you know uh without my knowing about it so i regret that gotta ask you about michael jackson i'm

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not gonna answer though it's like being asked about that i'm sure yeah definitely yeah i'll have more discussion about him okay nicholas cage

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because i'm always associated with that you know everything's about that you were married to michael jackson that's like the biggest you know and

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it turned me into a freak as for Michael's current controversy fueled by the British documentary that was a train wreck you know Lisa Marie says

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she never saw any inappropriate behavior if I had seen anything believe me his ass would have been hanging from a tree so I don't know I never

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saw anything like that now I don't know what's happening lately with him I really don't I hope he clears it up uh coherently

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good conversation was in 2005 um it was a very long conversation please keep your head together please if this goes to trial please hold

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it together and he said what are you talking about what do you mean and I said he said you mean drugs I said yes because all I saw you know there

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was a few year period there where he was random things were coming out whether it was a Martin Bashir interview or various interviews and in those interviews

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I saw him intoxicated I didn't see Michael that I knew in that Martin Bashir of your eyes he was high as a kite from

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what i saw and from what i knew really he was either too speedy or he was sedated it wasn't the michael that i knew and he asked

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if i still loved him and we went into a whole thing about that and i told him i was indifferent and he didn't like

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that word and he cried and then the final part of the conversation was him uh telling me that he felt that someone was going to try and kill him to get a hold of his catalog and his estate.

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Lisa Marie says she and the Jackson family spent years trying to save Michael from self-destructive behavior.

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She claims it left her emotionally and spiritually exhausted, but she writes, As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection, and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date,

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watching on the news almost play by play the exact scenario I saw happen on August 16, 1977, happening again right now with Michael, a sight I never wanted to see again.

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Just as he predicted, I am truly gutted.

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Lisa Marie Presley coming out and giving some statements that she put up on her MySpace page.

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And I thought this was interesting because many people had speculated for years that their marriage was a sham.

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Yeah, this is a very interesting look inside Michael Jackson.

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He looked at Lisa Marie Presley at one point and said, and I quote, I'm afraid that I'm going to end up like him.

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Michael was always asking you about your father.

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Yes.

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And he said, I feel like I'm going to end up the same way.

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And did you say why?

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Yeah.

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I was like, what are you talking about?

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And I don't understand.

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Down to the play by play by play incident was identical.

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The one thing that correlates with Michael and with my father on this subject is that they had the luxury of creating whatever reality around them they wanted to create.

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They could have the kinds of people who were going to go with their program or not go with their program.

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And if they weren't, then they could be disposed of.

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It's the reality of being a god in your own world.

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Right.

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When it's this unusual reality and an ivory tower and this godlike life mixed with an addiction.

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That's when you get into trouble.

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