Pratique du Shadowing: Zendaya & Tom Holland Are The Perfect Couple | Extended Interview | The Graham Norton Show - Apprendre l'anglais à l'oral avec YouTube
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It's been a few years since we last saw you.
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It's been a few years since we last saw you.
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Yeah, I was great at showing.
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Yeah, it was great at showing.
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And we should say congratulations,
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Euphoria, you won an Emmy.
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Hey.
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I know.
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And that was the, that was that kind of proper lockdown, lockdown Emmys.
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So where were you?
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I was in my living room.
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OK.
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I was in my living room.
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And it was actually really special because I think,
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you know, had it not been done that That way that year,
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I wouldn't have been able to have my whole family with me.
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So I did it in my living room.
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Aww.
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There's my family.
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My dad.
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There's my mom's back there.
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You can't see it in this picture,
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but her face is like this.
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It's so cute.
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My nieces, my little niece,
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my dog runs out from under the table when everybody starts screaming.
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It was really, really special.
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So I got to share it with them,
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which I couldn't imagine doing that any other way.
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And if I had done it in a real audience like this,
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in front of everyone, I would have just would have probably thrown up.
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I don't know what I would have done.
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I was so nervous.
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But this was the one,
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wasn't it, where, so how many?
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There must be five nominees?
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I think, I believe so.
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Five nominees, best actress in a drama.
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Yes.
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But there was someone outside everyone's house.
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Yes.
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In a hazmat suit that looked like a tuxedo.
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It was actually really cute.
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What's not cute is everyone,
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no matter, like, all the nominees,
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someone would be in front of their house in the hazmat suit with an Emmy.
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And if...
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Yeah, like that.
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And if you didn't get it, they would just...
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..leave.
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Drive off.
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LAUGHTER Oh, dear.
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I heard you talking somewhere,
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Zendaya, how your height difference makes those stunts more complicated.
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Thank you, Graeme.
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LAUGHTER I didn't say it.
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Zendaya said it.
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Now that is a good story.
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It's a good story.
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Well, you see, there's a particular stunt,
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I don't know if it's in this,
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but there's a, you know,
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he, Spider-Man swings us on top of a bridge,
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and he places me there.
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Oh, there you are.
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And that's the bridge.
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Yeah, that's the bridge.
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We eventually jump off of, and I'm screaming.
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You look great.
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Yeah.
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So he's supposed to gently,
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you know, rest MJ on the bridge and walk away from her.
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It, because of our height difference,
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I obviously, if we're on the same, like, point, I...
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We were attached.
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I would land before him.
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My feet obviously hit the ground before he does.
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So...
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What would happen?
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It's called a bottom mark, isn't it?
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And the bottom mark is basically a thing that they do in stunts
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that is basically designed to stop you shattering your kneecaps.
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So Zendaya would land, and I'm the superhero.
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I'm supposed to look cool.
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And she would land, and then I would sort of land like this,
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my feet would swing from underneath me and then she would catch me.
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LAUGHTER And they'd be like, cut!
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I'm like, oh!
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Stop doing that!
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You were actually very lovely about it.
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You were like, oh, my gosh, thank you.
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It's so nice to be caught for a change.
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For a proper one.
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Yeah.
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And obviously you're back in the suit.
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Yes.
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The suit's the same this time, right?
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Or is it being changed?
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Yes, it's the same, yes.
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OK.
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As the last one, there's no changes.
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Again, I asked for a zip and I didn't get one.
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Do you have a zip?
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Yeah, sort of.
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Sort of?
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It's not a conventional zip,
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no. Otherwise you'd see it.
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We're talking about the same zip, right?
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I told you that.
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I hope so.
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I've said this publicly before,
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because I really think we should do something about this.
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I actually think all of us,
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we need to band together,
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we need to tell somebody.
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Because he can, like, you know,
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listen, it's one piece, So there's a helmet and there's all these things that go underneath it.
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And I always have this fear that if he's like working really hard or something's happening,
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that if he had to throw up, per se, what's...how?
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How is he going to get it out?
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This is a genuine concern.
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Yes.
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Right?
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So, honestly, sometimes when I look at him,
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I get a little scared,
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because I'm like, what if you...I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It just stresses me out.
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I'll be like...
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I'm like, help him.
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It's true, because I ain't gonna get it out.
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But you're, I mean, not a,
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but you have an old school hobby.
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Yes.
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So you knit, but you do more than knit.
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I tried to start a new hobby while we were shooting Spider-Man.
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I got one of those,
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I don't know if you guys have them,
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but they're like little rugs that you can make,
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and you basically, yarn by yarn,
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you attach the thing and colour coordinates to, like, a thing.
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I chose puppies.
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Okay.
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And I got about, like,
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four squares in, and I was like, I'm done with this.
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This is too tedious for me.
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So I got like a little corner of a rug,
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but that's about it.
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But who taught you to knit?
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My mom taught me to knit.
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All I can do is scarf,
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so I'm not like, you know,
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I can't get you a sweater or like a vest or anything,
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but I get you a nice,
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thick, warm scarf, which is what I made for everybody.
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OK, that's really good.
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I mean, I loved it as a pastime.
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I usually like little tedious activities,
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things I can keep my brain occupied.
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And yeah, I would, I just made everyone scarps because I couldn't,
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I was like, what am I gonna get everybody for Christmas?
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I was like, I'll just make them some scarps.
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That's what I'm doing all day.
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Like them or not?
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We've been doing like the most intense fight scenes on set
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and you used to come to set to watch quite a lot.
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Yeah.
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And I'd be there, I'd come and have blood all over my face.
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I've been fighting the goblin and I'd turn around and you'd just be there knitting.
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How's the day going?
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Yeah, it's good.
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Amazing.
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And Zadaya, in your story,
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I love, I mean, I'm sort of in awe of what your parents did for you.
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I mean, how old were you when your parents kind of totally said,
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right, we're going to back you in your career?
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No, I was pretty young.
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I'm,
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super grateful because they um i i
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had this dream and i wanted to go pursue it
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and i had parents who were totally down to support that
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and both my parents are teachers
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so my dad at the time he um he basically became like my stage dad you know um
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and he would drive me up
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and back from i mean it wouldn't i don't know how many people know california very well
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but it was like an eight hour drive from where i'm from to l.a
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so we would drive up
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and back during the week sometimes for for uh you know
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auditions callbacks whatever um until it was actually quite quickly
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that i got my my disney show when i was a kid
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so it's been a slow growth kind of thing you know
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i thankfully didn't i had a nice protective system around me my family my brothers
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and sister siblings we're talking about siblings but they're all older I was basically an only child.
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It was great.
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But I have such a great support system,
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so I got all the protection I needed.
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And then as I was growing,
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I got to do it nice and slow and nice and steady.
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Famously, though, you did find success very young in the West End as Billy Elliot.
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You must have seen this.
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It's a very sweet clip we found.
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This is you as a little boy.
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But what I love in this is you're so relaxed and you're so cool.
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This is you discussing being seen for the role of Billy Elliot.
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Here we go.
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Great.
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I'm Tom Holland and I play Billy in Billy Elliot the Musical.
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It all started, I used to go to a street dance club,
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and we did a show in White Lodge,
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the ballet school, and the headmaster,
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he spotted me, he was like,
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we wanted to audition for Billy Elliot,
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and I was like, oh, fair dues.
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I love that.
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Fair dues, fair dues.
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That video haunts me.
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Oh, it's so...
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Oh, fair dues.
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It's good, though.
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It's very relaxed.
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It's very relaxed.
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Well done.
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Practicing English speaking skills through engaging content like the interview with Zendaya and Tom Holland can significantly enhance your fluency. This video provides a unique glimpse into a relaxed conversation, showcasing natural speech patterns and interpersonal dynamics. By employing the shadowing technique, you can imitate their conversational flow, improving your pronunciation and intonation. Additionally, hearing casual exchanges reinforces cultural nuances and conversational norms, essential for effective communication.
Grammar & Expressions in Context
The interview features several key grammatical structures and expressions that are particularly useful for English learners:
- Present Continuous Tense: Zendaya frequently uses the present continuous to describe ongoing actions, such as "I was in my living room." This structure expresses current actions or situations and is useful in everyday conversation.
- Relative Clauses: Phrases like "that kind of proper lockdown" illustrate how to include additional information about nouns, which can help make descriptions more vivid and detailed.
- Use of Colloquialisms: Expressions like "I probably threw up" or "it's so cute" reflect informal, spoken English. Learning these common phrases can help non-native speakers sound more natural in casual settings.
- Conditional Sentences: When discussing hypothetical situations, such as "if I had done it in a real audience," the conditional structure helps convey what could have happened under different circumstances.
Common Pronunciation Traps
Whenever you practice with native speakers, you may encounter specific pronunciation challenges. In this interview, watch for:
- Contractions: Words like "I wouldn’t" or "I couldn’t" are often spoken quickly, making them tricky for learners who are not familiar with conversational speed.
- Intonation Patterns: The playful tone in their discussion can involve varying pitch and stress. Listen closely to how they emphasize certain words, as this can change the meaning or emotion behind what they say.
- Accent Differences: Both Zendaya and Tom Holland have distinct accents that can introduce variations in pronunciation. Pay special attention to certain vowel sounds and the way they articulate consonants, which can differ significantly from standardized American pronunciation.
To truly enhance your speaking skills, implement the shadowspeak method as you practice along with this video. By shadowing their dialogue, you'll improve not just your words but the subtle nuances of English speech, leading to greater confidence in your speaking abilities.
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