a very clear picture of a creepy guy and a really  clear question. Why did so many people who had so much to lose keep hanging out with him? We  sat down with a couple of experts and said, "You look at this." Law enforcement people  tell us what you think. I think women, as I said the last time, have an intuitive sense.  What is intuitive? They have intuition. They have feelings. and they're able to deal in the realm  of things that men, especially men like myself, find unexplainable. So, Melissa Marola, as a  former profiler, Christine Dunn as a former federal prosecutor, when you hear that, what do  you see? So, I see somebody who clearly knows how to take advantage of a situation, how to  size somebody up and determine is there a way that I can spot vulnerabilities and that I can  use those vulnerabilities and exploit them in in some capacity. I don't think he viewed any of  his victims as actual people. they were, you know, things to be used by him. To what degree do you  think this lavish lifestyle that he exposed people to was also just part of the whole equation? We  know that most of his victims were vulnerable individuals. And so they see something like this  and they think this is opportunity for me to to get ahead, to have a a stable income, to have,  you know, a a place that I can go. And so it's part of the grooming process. It It really is.  I'm in a privileged position to have some of the world's smartest people come to my house and tell  me what they think about different subjects. Well, I think all of these famous individuals gave him  legitimacy. You come into the situation and you see, well, Jeffrey Epstein is good friends  with this person that I admire and respect, so there must be some legitimacy to him. One of  the things he talked about was his contact with other people and opportunities he could make  from it. He said there's this company called He said he mentioned it to you. He thinks they'll  pay you a couple million dollars to be on the board. You're going to make a lot of money. You're  definitely going to make a lot of money. You know, by being connected to Jeffrey Epstein, it opens  up a world of of contacts and and profitable opportunities that is hard to to say no to. And  maybe that's why people were willing to overlook some of these red flags. I think he played his  part very well. He knew what worked. He clearly liked to present himself as and other people saw  him as very intelligent. How do you describe de in the art of an intelligence deception? Kids who  never lie aren't very smart. They're not very intelligent. Right. Do you see an intelligent  mastermind though or do you see a con man? He fits what we see in a lot of our domestic violence  cases when we see somebody who has the ability to physically, emotionally, mentally, psychologically  continue to dominate. And that's what I think I see with him versus true intelligence. There's  this one clip when he's trying to rehabilitate his image basically and he's being asked by Steve  Bannon for a potential documentary they're going to make about his impression of himself. And  it never struck you about how did I end up in a situation like this? No, that would be  probably means I would be too self-aware.

You're suggesting I was somewhat depressed and  how how could this happened to me? I I'm not saying depressed. I'm saying a moment of awareness  of how could I get myself into this situation? No, I would just say how strange that this happens.  Just it's strange. He's unable to accept blame, unable to feel regret, feel remorse. If he  were still alive, I could see him continuing to proclaim his innocence. He just does not  value the gravity of what he has done and will not and did not truly take responsibility.  Do you think you're the devil himself? No, but I I do have a good mirror. It's a serious  question. Do you do you think you're the devil himself? I know. Why would you say that? Because  you have all the attributes. You're incredibly smart. You remember the devil is somebody  knows what the the devil's brilliant. You read Milton's you read Milton's Paradise Lost.  No, the devil scares me. I mean, he's acting like he's the victim here. Correct. Which is not  surprising. He was charming and he was able to give people what they wanted and people wanted  to believe it so that they could stick around in this Shangro law that he created. And that is what  you have going on and why it went on for so long.

It was really informative to sit down with these  experts and see what they can see here because I'll tell you, there is so much you cannot see  here. We don't have the metadata on this. We don't know who took the video, where the video  was taken, who was in the room, and some of it is so blacked out by the Justice Department. All  you can see the edges of the frame. In that sense, this release leaves a lot to be desired, even as  it's so much video, you can barely start plowing through it, you Anyway, I understand this is a  lot, but it would be nice if it said why parts of that were redacted or why you couldn't see  parts of that because it's also just so weird to hear from him and to hear his voice. Yeah. Yeah.  I think a lot of people really have never heard him speak and to sit and watch him talk in these  interviews and to see him moving around. It's just a very strange world. A little window into it and  I think there more windows to come. Tom Foreman, thank you for looking through all that for us um  and showing it to us. It's illuminating for sure.

Vice President Vance raising questions with this  comment about Jeffrey Epstein and Pizzagate. One person sent an email to Jeffrey Epstein saying,  "Oh, there were some really nice like pizzas and grape sodas or something like that." And  I remember it sounded like the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, but here it was in like an  email from a guy. And my reaction to that was, we should absolutely investigate that person.  It is unclear what Vance is referring to, but it's just one of a multitude of questions that the  Epstein files raised. For some Epstein survivors, the files have raised more questions than answers.  And that is the case for Danielle Bensky, who returned to the town home where Epstein abused her  in search of those answers. MJ Lee is out front.

You okay? Yeah. It's just not easy to see, you  know. It's like it's just it holds a lot and just like who I was before I stepped into these doors  and who I was after. It's so long ago that I think like now after becoming a parent, especially  you start to realize that 17 is so little, you know. I remember standing right there. There  was the J on the side would have been here. Yeah.

What did you think you were coming here for? What  were you masseuse? Yeah. He was like, "Nice to meet you." You know, shook our hand and then just  like got down on the massage chair on the table and was like, "You start up here. You start down  on your legs." So, it wasn't until the second time when you came by yourself. He said, "Balleras  are crazy and they love to get naked, right?" And you know, if you want to be a ballerina, like  is that like are you like that, right? Do you like to get naked, too? Like, you should totally  try it. And I got naked and massaged him. So, it was a gradual, very gradual, and that's part  of the grooming process and grooming tactics.

Look at how many cameras there are. 1 2 3 4 5  6 7 8 9. So, like that was what I expected to see when we were originally looking through the  files. I was expecting to see a lot of footage of girls at least in and out. Nobody has that  footage. Yeah. So, where is that footage? Yeah.

That footage is among the things that Dany began  searching for when President Trump's Justice Department recently released the Epstein files.  What she found instead was what she told law enforcement about Jeffrey Epste in 2008 when she  was subpoenaed by the FBI. I was like terrified.

So, I remember calling my mom. Yeah. And my mom  had said, "You're going to derail your whole life, you know, and something that Jeffrey had already  said to me multiple times. basically you'll be brought up on prostitution charges. That's the  headsp space you were in completely. And so I kept walking back like the amount of times the level of  abuse I blamed it on a friend a lot of the time.

Let's go through it a little bit. Um this person  became very upset and Jeffree ended up throwing the money at her and yelled at her to get out of  his home. That was me. That was you. Yeah. So, well, you're talking about your experience as  though you're somebody else. Yes. Because that is disassociation. If I can remove myself and I can  look at it as if it's someone else, then I don't have to I don't have to experience it again. Danny  was interviewed by the FBI one more time in 2019 about Epstein. She said she again was unable to  share the full truth. I find it so hard to reread these and look at these because it's like why  couldn't you just be honest? Why couldn't you just tell someone? Danny also found her MySpace account  from 2008 and photos of familiar rooms and objects inside of Epstein's townhouse. I sense that with  you there's this fear that this moment is going to pass. There are people out there right now,  17-year-old girls right now in parts of the US that are being exploited and traffked, right? So,  I think that there's a lot of responsibility for those of us that have taken this story and turned  it into advocacy. I continue to struggle. This was part of um a claim that I I had to actually tell  my story for the first time. My mom was diagnosed with a brain tumor called the acoustic nuroma. We  looked at my mom's scans and he said that all it would take was one phone call to Mount Sinai to  get her the top-of-the-line care. He asked what I would do for it. He told me that he wanted me  to procure others which I never did though I was so intimidated by him at our sessions after he  repeatedly physically abused me and made me do things to him. Finally, my mom had her surgery.  no help from Jeffrey and so I stopped answering the calls. Before Jeffrey, I was a vivacious  dancer with a love for ballet and the arts.

After Jeffrey, I quit dancing because  I couldn't look at myself. I couldn't look at my body in a leotard. It felt  like my body was no longer my own.

When I went to acting school, that  was the time when I started to actually feel like I could come  to terms with who I used to be.

I found dance for myself  again and like the movement kind of recalibrated me to come back to myself.

And Aaron, we did ask the Justice Department  whether there is any footage from the cameras that were outside of Jeffrey Epstein's house. And a DOJ  spokesperson told me that all of the footage, the camera footage that is in the Justice Department's  possession has been released. Now, uh, meanwhile, the DOJ did not comment on my inquiries about  Dy's name still appearing in the files. Uh, but we will tell you that since the filming  of this interview, her name no longer appears in the files. Aaron, thank you very much. An  incredible piece. Incredibly brave of Danny.