Shadowing Practice: Tom Holland and Jon Bernthal Team Up While Eating Spicy Wings | Hot Ones - Learn English Speaking with Video

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I feel like I could black out.
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Hey, what's going on everybody?
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For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we welcome Jon Bernthal and Tom Holland back to the hot seat.
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Let's go.
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A decade ago, they starred in a gritty medieval thriller called Pilgrimage, and this summer they share a screen in not one but two of the most anticipated films of the summer.
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Catch them both in Spider-Man Brand New Day, premiering in theaters July 31st. And they also share a screen in Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey, which you can catch in theaters now.
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John, Tom, welcome back to the show.
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Thank you for having us.
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Thank you, brother.
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Now, John, during your episode, I remember I nearly choked to death on the first wing.
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And then, Tom, I remember that you grabbed the hottest wing first during your Hot Ones appearance.
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I don't know what's in store for us today, but all I know is we have to have each other's backs out here.
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I think today is gonna be very chaotic.
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We get together, wheels come off.
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Let's go.
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Mine look glorious.
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That is dangerous.
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Can't do.
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That's really tasty.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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We're going back for more, huh?
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I'm not wasting any food today.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Just no small bites, you know?
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But we can't act all, like, big and bad like some grizzly bears on number one.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, this don't mean nothing.
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You know what I mean?
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We got to do the same thing now on number seven.
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You know what I mean?
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You're setting a precedent, a dangerous one, Tom.
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So, Don, I've heard you say
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that you never want to let the fans down by taking a giant jump with a character like Frank Castle.
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I'm curious, where is the line for you between a fresh idea and a betrayal to the character?
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That's a good question.
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That's a great question.
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I think you can't ever get into anything with Frank that betrays that notion, that consciously he is never looking for the light.
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He is never looking to relieve the pain.
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He's looking to dive into it.
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He's looking to go head first into it, to dig into the wound that kind of, you know, is his whole, you know, life's view now.
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I've known a lot of people who put a lot of effort into building walls around their hearts.
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And I think anybody who does that, there's always cracks and light always does shine through.
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I think it is what makes us kind of quintessentially human.
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So I love, as much as I look for opportunities to turn my back on the audience
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and to go to a place where I can't be forgiven, I also love the opportunity to be won back and to find those little rays of light.
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And what better ray of light than this guy right here, right?
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It's good.
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It's hotter.
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You can tell it's hotter.
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That's different, right?
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And that's two, bro.
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That's spicy, Sean.
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To be honest with you, that's pretty humbling because that's way hotter.
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That's a lot hotter than that.
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It's like, where did you go?
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Yeah, that's one to two.
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Yeah.
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So exponentially, I mean, I'm not a mathematician, but what the fuck, bro?
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That's way hotter.
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I don't remember that.
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I remember it being easy until seven.
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I don't remember the steps being so intense.
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Why is that so much hotter?
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Yeah.
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That's hotter.
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Your eyes are watered.
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Listen, are you okay?
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It's a shared experience for all of us.
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It's a shared experience for all of us.
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Cause you, um.
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Bro, that's way hotter.
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Way hotter.
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Alright.
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So Tom, I've heard you say that while filming The Odyssey in Morocco, that it felt more to you like a historical reenactment than a film set.
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That's right.
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What was the most surreal, where am I moment of the whole shoot for you?
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I think that first day when I visited in Morocco, you were working that day, and I went to the beach to just watch them work.
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I kind of wanted to get a bit of a jump on how Chris likes to work
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and just watch kind of from afar.
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and I arrived at the beach and I could not see a single crew member.
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You're seeing miles and miles of ships and extras and warriors and horses and you ask yourself, like, where is the crew?
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So then they asked me to walk down this beach
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and every sort of 10 minutes you'd hear rolling
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and I'd have to lie down and hide behind these dunes and I kept asking myself, like, where is, where are they rolling?
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I can't see the crew anywhere.
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And then eventually I got down to where Matt was and his men and all that sort of stuff.
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And it really felt at that moment like we were a part of something that had never been done before.
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Akin to the sort of Lawrence of Arabia, those movies where they are legend, not just in the quality of the film,
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but in the size and scale and the ambition of what Chris was trying to do.
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Number three.
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Number three?
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Cakewalk, bro.
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Again, that's really tasty.
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It might take a second.
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It's really tasty.
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Well, this is your own sauce.
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This is really tasty.
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I like it a lot.
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Maybe that's like a branding thing, huh?
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They make you like that.
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Hot one's hot sauce, right?
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Yeah, that's a good idea.
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That's a great one.
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Smart, smart, smart.
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Thank you, Ed.
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For the uninitiated, can you explain what it means to achieve unconscious competence?
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Oh, sure, man.
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Unconscious competence.
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Yeah, that's great, man.
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That's a good question, Sean.
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Holy shit.
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You did it again, you fucker.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, look, I mean, it's something that they talk about in Moscow
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and at the Moscow Art Theater in terms of learning a new behavior.
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So for character building, they often talk about that to take on a walk or to take on a gesture, to take on a job or a vocation or a dialect.
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You got to, first you got to know what you're doing.
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Then you got to start doing it all the time.
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And then if you just put enough time in that box, you'll get to a place where you don't even need to think about it.
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You just start doing it.
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And I really do think that can be applied to even psychological things
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and things you just want to change about your outlook on life.
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Wow, that's really cool.
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Thanks, man.
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Yeah, I was locked in then.
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Fuck you, bro.
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Fuck you.
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Yeah.
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And the spice fucking went away.
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Yeah, it totally did go away.
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Dude, this is cake, bro.
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This is birthday cake, bro.
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That was unconscious confidence.
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Yeah, dude.
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It just disappeared.
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I am not nervous at all anymore.
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Like, this is cake, bro.
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Yeah, it's a one.
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Maybe I'm fine.
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Let's go.
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Let's go.
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Should we jump to the end?
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No, I'm just playing.
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Oh, shit.
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Steady on.
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I know.
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I'm sorry.
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That's a nice catch, though.
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Thank you, buddy.
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It's all part of it.
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You don't have shit on your shirt.
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You ain't doing nothing.
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So Tom, I've heard you say
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that you're actually more comfortable playing a character with an American accent as opposed to a British one
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because it creates an immediate separation between you and the character.
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Are there any other tricks that help you step into the shoes of a character like Peter Parker?
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I think physicality for me is like step one with any character.
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But the accent for me, having an american accent is is almost like a disguise you know the moment
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that i start speaking with an english accent i feel like i go into like press mode
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and it feels like a kind of a representation of who i am as a person
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but i would love to explore some more british accents
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because you know as an island we have some of the the most interesting, unique, and fun accents.
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And I would love to do some work to figure out.
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The regional dialect.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I think there's more accents in Britain than any other country.
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I think so.
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Why does it always got to come to competition?
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That's not competition.
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I'm just a simple fact.
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I'm just putting it out there.
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OK, so maybe it's my problem, not your problem.
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I think it's a bit of a you problem.
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OK, fine.
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Then I'll admit it's a problem.
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But I would go out on a limb to say there are more accents in America than there are in Britain.
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Well, come on, there has to be.
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Somebody's got some sort of, how can you tell me that in that little country, that they, just keep rolling on this.
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Because I'm just gonna eat his words.
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You really think there's more dialects in England than there are in America?
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Well, I would, I would, I would drink a shot of that hottest hot sauce.
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No, don't say that.
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Uh oh.
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To say that that's right.
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You really?
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Yeah.
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Who's right?
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Bullshit.
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When we worked together the first time, Oh fuck.
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John was playing a mute.
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Right, right, right.
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In the movie.
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You were the only person he could lean on.
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Yeah, and I was his best friend in the movie, and like three or four weeks before we started shooting we'd become good friends, we were hanging out, and then all of a sudden he's like, listen dog, like, I'm, uh,
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listen man, like, I'm gonna have to do this shit, like, I'm not gonna talk, I'm gonna go full fucking method, I'm not doing it, I'm gonna need your help,
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I'm gonna need to lean on your shoulder." I'm like, yeah, whatever, man.
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Like, if that's what you wanna do, that's what you wanna do.
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And then for like two weeks, not a peep out of him, right?
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And we all know Jon Bernthal.
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We all love Jon Bernthal.
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My man loves to talk, right?
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So we sat at restaurants and he's writing down his food.
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These are regular restaurants in Ireland.
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And I'm having to be like, I'm sorry about my friend.
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He's just a pretentious actor.
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And I'm like reading out his order, right?
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And then one day we were in a restaurant And he had salmon.
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And he said to me, he wrote down, can you ask for some lemon for my salmon?
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I like lemon on my salmon, bro.
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Yeah, listen, we all do.
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And that's all I had there was salmon.
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So the lady, I said, excuse me, can I have some lemon, please, for his salmon?
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Maybe she misheard me or something.
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So she came and brought this lemon and dropped it in his drink, in his water, and then immediately he was like, all right, fuck it.
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I'm talking again.
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It's true.
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You have to draw the line somewhere.
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It's true.
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It's true.
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On that note, are you guys ready to move on here?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I love that story.
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Oh, boy.
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Yeah.
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What's this one called?
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This is hot and saucy over here.
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Yeah.
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Let's go.
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The halfway mark.
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This is going to be a lot hotter.
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Oh, yeah.
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Here we go.
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That's a lot hotter.
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You can see right from the jump.
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Yeah.
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Oh, shit.
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John, is it true that your first acting performance
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that made your teacher believe in you was a monologue about your mom giving you a catcher's mitt on her deathbed?
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That is very true.
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I went to school to play sports and I had no interest in being an actor.
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You just had to take an arts requirement.
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So everybody suggested that I take this acting class that was like 200 people in a theater.
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But I wound up, because of the asshole that I was, I wound up in the serious theater kid, you know, intro to acting class.
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And it was insane.
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And the very first thing that we had to do, the first assignment was to bring in something
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that meant a lot to each of us and share it with the rest of the class.
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And I couldn't believe the level of emotion, the emoting and the talking about the blues traveler CD
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that their boyfriend had given them before school or their grandfather's corncob pipe.
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And I didn't have anything.
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So yeah, I just, I grabbed my catcher's glove
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and just launched into this story about how my mom had given it to me on her deathbed.
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And I was crying my eyes out
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and uh i looked around everybody else was crying their eyes out
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and i said whoa whoa wait wait i'm just doing the acting here
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and yeah and then but and then that teacher alma becker she um
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she said look you uh she she read my ass about violating the sanctity of her studio
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but then she said you know your punishment is you got to audition for the play
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and that's what got me my first play and almost one
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that sent me to russia
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and uh i got her picture up in my dressing room now she married my wife
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and i um she passed a few years back but uh she saved my life and it's a true
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testament to the power of a teacher and that that one woman
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that one day you know changed everything changed the entire course of my life
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and i really feel like i owe everything to her
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that's an amazing story the stories help this story yeah you
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know what he does too is he he he makes their
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time like you know what i mean he like he takes time in between each one
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so you forget what you're fucking doing here yeah you just let yeah a lot of it's an amazing um interview
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it's the best this is the best interview show you can
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ask me anything right now yeah let's do this john okay oh
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so this one is called tropical amarillo sauce number six is it is it oh yeah
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so look at the next one's got a dragon on it all right oh that looks spicy
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so christopher nolan has referred to the odyssey as the marvel of its day does
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that seem like an apt analogy to you guys they're really
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emotional i think all of the best marvel characters are ones
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that are really relatable and have real emotions you know
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and i think that when you read the poem it's super super emotional
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and really just about the characters with one of the most
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intricately told family dramas that i've seen
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and neither one gets in the way of the other you never feel like the scale is overshadowing the heart
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and the heart is never dampening down the scale
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and i think chris is probably the only person that can do
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that because it's a real skill set to be able to do
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that you know there's so many different communities
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that feel seen in the marvel world
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and i think you know the odyssey is a globe-trotting adventure
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and and experiences so many different cultural elements of that time, I guess.
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I'm sure Chris's answer is so much more eloquent than why I just said.
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That was good, man.
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That's right on.
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That was great.
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Cheers, pal.
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Eight dragons.
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What comes back to haunt you?
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A little bit, but...
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I like how you double-dipped him, bro.
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Yeah, Sean, that was impressive.
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I'm just trying to keep up.
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Have you ever had moments where you're like, I just can't do this today?
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No. No?
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It's the cross that I bear, you know?
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And you bear it so well.
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Rain, sleet, or shine, I am here to take on the Hot Ones Gauntlet.
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Let's go.
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So you're both veterans of the theater, and I've been trying to go to the theater a lot more recently.
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I understand that Broadway and West End shows, they actually start eight minutes after the advertised curtain time.
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What is it about those eight minutes?
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You don't want to have to demand their focus the moment you walk on stage.
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I think that's probably what it is.
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And I think you don't want stragglers.
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You don't want people kind of coming in, you know, once the thing started.
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But I'll tell you, that time, that's my favorite time of the day, without a doubt.
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So those eight minutes, whatever those are, I've always thought that the theater itself, there's just a lot of ghosts there.
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There's so much spirit there.
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There's so much emotion and heart that's been left on that stage.
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And I feel like it's an unbelievable time to kind of communicate with folks that might not be here anymore.
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And it's my favorite part of the day, without a doubt.
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On that topic, what's a ghost light?
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And why is it that some theaters never go dark?
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Yeah, it's for that exact reason.
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You keep the lights on for the ghosts, you know?
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And I don't know why...
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I don't know...
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It is just universally and forever sort of understood, and every person who's spent a lot of time in the theater, it's just something you feel in your bones.
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Is whistling on stage or saying Macbeth?
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Do you guys consider that bad luck in a theater?
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I mean, there would be people that would be very upset with you if you didn't say the Scottish play.
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I try not to let myself get hung up on superstition
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because I'm the type of person
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that can really really get sucked into it You know without trying to sound too much like a douchebag
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and too grandiose I love the feeling
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that you could die out there I love the feeling
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that it could all fall apart
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so for me I don't like to tempt anything I don't
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give voice to it You won't hear me I'm not going to whistle
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but I'm not going to say either one I'm not going to say either one of those two names of
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that Shakespearean play You know, and I just I just don't want to I don't want to mess with any of it.
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I Didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Haha.
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It's not that bad.
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Oh top.
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I just thought I Don't know why you're being so aggressive with this.
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That's what you said brother.
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I said you got it.
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We got a fucking bite
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Can't wait this is the one hello bomb This is one that put little Henry Bernthal on the edge.
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Let's go I actually don't want to do this.
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I think so, man.
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Oh, man.
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And that thought didn't hit you until you put it right in your hand.
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Yeah.
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I remember.
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Bro.
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I remember the Lakers game afterwards.
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You're serious, bro.
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And I remember nearly shitting myself courtside.
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You know what's crazy?
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You get in your mouth.
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You can feel the heat.
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It doesn't start hurting immediately, but I'll tell you now, bro, I'm like 20 seconds in.
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It's hurting.
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It's definitely hurting.
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You know what I mean?
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You can tell it's gonna be fucked up, it's fucked up.
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It gets more and more fucked up.
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That's battery acid.
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That's crazy to me that people would want to be honest.
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It's crazy to me that people would want to eat that.
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It's also crazy to me that like...
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There's no uh...
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Water makes it look.
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There's no warning.
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I mean it does have like a nuclear sign on it.
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The label is kind of...
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Hey man, whoa.
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Wow.
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It's not every day that you find yourselves in not one but two of the biggest movies of the summer.
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So if you'll humor me, I want to play a friendly superlatives game where I give you a statement, and you tell me which wins the category.
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The Odyssey or Spider-Man Brand New Day.
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You want to pit the movies against each other?
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In a friendly way.
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Okay.
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Which was the more...
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Yeah.
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Which production had the more intimidating first day on set?
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The Odyssey. That one.
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That's real bad huh?
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That's really bad.
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Which production had the longer hours?
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I gotta see.
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Bro.
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That's really bad.
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Oh man.
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Which had the better accommodations, trailer or home base?
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Spiderman.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Not even close.
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You wanna try some milk?
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Yeah, yeah, he wants some milk.
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Yeah, it's okay.
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Cheers bro.
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There's no shame in it.
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Cheers.
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I panicked then.
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I was like, isn't milk gluten?
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Losing my mind.
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I'll drink all the fucking gluten in the world right now, bro.
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Which one had the more intense prosthetics or costumes?
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I'm in full lycra, dude.
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Full lycra in Spider-Man.
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Yeah, I guess that's right.
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It's pretty intense.
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And I don't want to shortchange how good the production design was on Spider-Man.
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Like, astounding.
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Fucking astounding.
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Like, walking through and just...
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Charlie Wood.
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So fucking good.
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Charlie would look oh mother yeah Benny's costume is remarkable incredible man I don't know
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Charlie would for Spider-Man it took so many people to take those what
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and take the costumes off you at the end of it like you you're all that's the other you know
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that Ruth DeJong from Odyssey fuck what she did is remarkable It's hard to choose a favorite.
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Yeah, I'd say they're- they're- they're both- yeah.
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Just as good as it gets.
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As good as it gets.
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As good as it fucking gets.
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The best in the business.
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Yeah.
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How we feeling?
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I feel like I could black out.
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Ugh.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's amazing how the milk helps and then immediately it comes right back.
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It comes right back.
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Would you guys like some ice cream?
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Nah, come on.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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I'm good, I'm good.
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It's burning down the ice cream.
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Uhhhhhhhhh Wow Okay, it's all good.
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I think we just got I think we're back.
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I think we're okay.
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Yeah, we're okay.
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We're getting there.
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I'm not quite there Yeah, okay, okay.
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I need another couple minutes.
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Yeah, slow it down Yeah, your experience do you know from last time the right pace for you?
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Yeah Fuck.
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I feel like I'm totally back. Do you?
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That's right.
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I was literally five seconds ago I just took a deep breath and I feel like I'm back at number one.
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There we go.
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That's the place to be.
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That's where you want to be.
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Yeah.
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Especially going into the home stretch here.
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Yeah, let's go.
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Oh, okay.
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Because if you're ready, we only have two more wings.
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That is, um...
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What's this one called?
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Triple X Salsa vibes.
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Okay, I like salsa.
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It has little red flakes on it.
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Oh, bro.
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Okay.
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Look at Sean, dude.
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I'm not immune to it.
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You know, I'm not sure you're on my job.
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I'm looking at superheroes across the set You think is it is it?
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Healthy to eat as much of this shit as you do I told myself is it probably is right?
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How the spice is healthy is it yeah, I mean in moderation This ain't moderation, but this
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So John when you were on we talked a little bit about your time as a catcher
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when you were in Russia which made me wonder what are the stadium vibes like in Moscow?
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Like is there anything distinctive about a Russian baseball fan?
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Being a catcher, that's gonna be the hardest.
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Is that the hardest gig on a baseball field?
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I think so.
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I mean, look, you're involved in everything, you know?
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Yeah, you don't take any breaks, right?
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Don't take any breaks.
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It's very psychological.
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You're in the head of the batter.
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You know, you're talking to the batter the whole time.
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What's the- What's the whole time.
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You're very responsible for the pitcher, for his psychology.
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What's the communication like with the pitcher?
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How does that work?
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Well, you're calling.
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I see them do this shit.
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So you're calling which pitch.
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How do you do that?
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So like a one is a fastball, two is a curveball.
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Because that looks crazy.
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Sorry, sorry.
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So you're calling your pitch, and then you're also saying which side it is.
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But then there's also there's first and third place.
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So you're calling out all those plays.
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You're the field general.
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It's called the field general.
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So you're constantly talking.
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I feel like I learned more Russian there than I did in the theater.
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But, you know, it's a great position.
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So the catch up is telling the pitcher what pitch to throw.
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Yeah. Are you?
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I'm looking at where the batter's standing.
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I've got to know the batter.
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I've got to know what his strengths are.
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That's what I was like, do you do research on the batter before time?
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Yeah, I mean, yeah.
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I can't speak.
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So there's all kinds of shit that's going on.
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But I also got to really know my pitcher and know how he's throwing and know sort of where he's at.
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Is his fastball, is there any movement to it?
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Is it really moving today?
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Is it slow?
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All that shit.
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I'm a cerebral guy, Tom.
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You are, bro.
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You are.
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Yeah, bro.
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You know that.
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I love it, bro, when they rush the plate and they get angry at each other.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, that's the other thing.
531
Like, if anybody, you know, because I do.
532
You've got to chase.
533
Yeah, you're in pursuit.
534
Yeah, like, I'm responsible for everybody's safety.
535
Like if you rush my- Dude, I knew that the Punisher was behind me Yeah, I'm gonna fuck that guy.
536
And he's been pinching with a whole new level of confidence.
537
Like that was my fault, bro.
538
Yeah.
539
That's- I'll just walk to- Yeah.
540
That's basic.
541
Alright.
542
What?
543
Oh, it's the last one.
544
It's the last one.
545
What's the last one?
546
Come on, let's do it, Tom.
547
Let's fucking- let's show Sean what's up.
548
Man, that was more than I was anticipating coming out then.
549
Do you feel like this- Let's go.
550
Is significantly worse than the bomb?
551
I think that the worst is over.
552
That's what I think.
553
That's what I kind of remember.
554
And even if it is, that's what we're gonna tell ourselves.
555
Fucking ain't.
556
Hey, Tom, we're gonna eat this whole week.
557
Okay?
558
Just fucking eat it, right?
559
Come on now.
560
Whatever, Shy, ain't so fucking bad.
561
That ain't great, though, John.
562
That ain't great.
563
I got it for now.
564
Look at that.
565
Oh!
566
Oh, my word.
567
Oh my way.
568
I'm going to throw up.
569
There's just so much of it in my mouth. That is a lot.
570
That was bold, right?
571
There's sweat coming out of my eyes.
572
I'm proud of you.
573
I'm impressed.
574
Oh, that's really bad.
575
That's really bad.
576
This is worse than I remember from being here.
577
It is worse, yeah.
578
But the good news is...
579
The wings of death are behind us.
580
You guys have conquered Hot Ones now for a second time.
581
Motherfucker, dude.
582
Me.
583
And you know, ten years ago, you guys made a strange movie called Pilgrimage, where one of you couldn't talk, the other was the only one you could lean on.
584
To close things out, what's one thing about the other guy
585
that you appreciate more than you did back then with the last decade of experience?
586
That's easy for me.
587
I wanna- I'll take this one because you always say such nice things about me.
588
Oh, fuck!
589
As a young man in this business, coming up, it's so important to find people that you can look up to,
590
and people you aspire to be like, and the way John is with his family, and his kids, and the way he purchases his work,
591
the way he is with people on set, The way he's been with me since I was a kid
592
to now being 30 years old is something I'm super grateful for.
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And I've learned a lot from him as a professional.
594
Even today listening to you talk about all that Russian bullshit was really interesting.
595
Oh Tom, this is so bad.
596
This is so bad.
597
And the tears are my love for him.
598
I love you too man.
599
I really love you too man.
600
The fact that we auditioned for these movies together.
601
Yeah, fuck.
602
And we took that leap of faith together We get to share this moment together now It's pretty awesome, and I'm just very grateful
603
Very grateful That we got to do this even like our first day on the Odyssey was together Yeah, and we got to sit down after work,
604
and we were like dude How fucking crazy was that?
605
I'm gonna drink your milk, bro And now here you guys are doing hot ones together
606
and look at you taking on the gauntlet for a second time
607
Living to tell the tale and now there's nothing left to do, but roll out the red carpet for you This camera this
608
camera this camera dude Let the people know what you have going on in your life.
609
Bro, it's really bad.
610
And then be careful around the eyes Tom.
611
Oh shit!
612
Be careful around the eyes.
613
Not at the finish line.
614
You want more milk?
615
Oh shit.
616
I think I'm okay.
617
Yeah, just be- I think I'm okay.
618
Okay, that would have been a wrap on the day.
619
Man, I gotta go and hang out with all these kids now for Spider-Man.
620
And I can be like, what the fuck happened to Spider-Man?
621
Splatter diarrhea.
622
Jeez.
623
Oh man, Sean, it's such a pleasure, dude.
624
Thank you so much.
625
You do great work, bro.
626
Thank you, yeah, the best, man, really.
627
Keep it up.
628
You're such a cool guy.
629
It's crazy that he just fucking destroyed our life.
630
What are you doing right now after this?
631
What do you do?
632
What is your after show routine?
633
You know what?
634
I'm just gonna enjoy a bowl of ice cream.
635
I'm gonna put my feet up for a little bit As you should
636
and then I'm gonna dive into an edit cuz you know
637
what the plight of a chicken wing talk show host Never sleeps.
638
The Odyssey, July 17th Spider-Man, brand new day July 31st John Bernthal,
639
Tom Holland Thank you, thank you everybody Oh my god, dude. So let's go.
640
So it's like our intro shot, so it's like, ah!
641
Okay, we're rolling.
642
Yeah, what the fuck?
643
Yeah, what the fuck?
644
Oh my god!
645
Let's go!
646
Let's go!
647
Let's go!
648
Let's go!
649
Take a picture of it!
650
Let's go!
651
You can use that!
652
Come here, Tom.
653
You can use that!
654
Oh, look, you thought I got none of it on my phone?
655
Yeah, I need a picture of that.
656
That's a pro right there.
657
Oh, has anybody puke before?
658
That might be the first on set ever.
659
I love being the first.
660
Can I see playback for that?
661
Hey, what's going on Hot Wins fans?
662
You know you can catch me every Thursday interviewing celebrities over the wings of death.
663
But if you're looking for a little more Scoville-laced action, tune in Tuesdays for Hot Wins Versus.
664
It's the show where celebrities go head to head.
665
They either tell the truth or suffer the wrath of the last dab.
666
So tune in Tuesdays for a front row seat to the fiery fights and celebrity clashes.
667
That's Hot Ones versus Tuesdays on First We Feast.
668
Don't miss it.

Why This Tom Holland & Jon Bernthal Clip Is Perfect for Speaking Practice

If you’re looking to level up your English speaking—whether for IELTS speaking practice or just sounding more natural—this Hot Ones conversation is gold. The casual, fast-paced banter between Tom Holland, Jon Bernthal, and host Sean Evans mirrors real-life interactions, making it ideal for shadowspeak (repeating lines to mimic tone and rhythm). You’ll hear slang, interruptions, and playful jabs—exactly the kind of language you need to master for everyday fluency.

Breaking Down Natural Speech: 3 Key Phrases

  • “Wheels come off”: When Tom says, “We get together, wheels come off,” he’s using a common idiom meaning “things go wrong in a chaotic way.” Native speakers love these vivid phrases—practice saying it with his lighthearted tone to sound more relatable.
  • “Setting a precedent”: Jon teases Tom with, “You’re setting a precedent, a dangerous one.” This formal phrase (meaning “establishing a pattern”) is used here in a casual context, showing how to mix register. Notice how Jon softens it with “dangerous one” for humor.
  • “Dig into the wound”: Jon’s line, “dig into the wound that kind of is his whole life’s view,” uses metaphor to describe emotional intensity. Mimic his deliberate pace here to emphasize the imagery—great for improving pronunciation of longer sentences.

Your Shadow Speak Practice Routine

Try this simple loop to nail the dialogue: 1. Watch 10 seconds of the video, pausing after each line. 2. Repeat the line out loud, focusing on matching the speaker’s intonation and speed (this is shadowspeaks in action!). 3. Record yourself, then compare. Did you catch the “mm-hmm”s and laughter? Those small details make you sound natural. 4. Do this daily for a week—you’ll notice your pronunciation and confidence improve fast, whether you’re prepping for IELTS or just chatting with friends.

Pro tip: Focus on the banter between Tom and Jon—their back-and-forth is perfect for practicing conversational flow. You’ll be nailing idioms and tone in no time!

What is the Shadowing Technique?

Shadowing is a science-backed language learning technique originally developed for professional interpreter training and popularized by polyglot Dr. Alexander Arguelles. The method is simple but powerful: you listen to native English audio and immediately repeat it out loud — like a shadow following the speaker with just a 1–2 second delay. Unlike passive listening or grammar drills, shadowing forces your brain and mouth muscles to simultaneously process and reproduce real speech patterns. Research shows it significantly improves pronunciation accuracy, intonation, rhythm, connected speech, listening comprehension, and speaking fluency — making it one of the most effective methods for IELTS Speaking preparation and real-world English communication.