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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to High Level Listening.
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Today, we're talking about a very important topic to help you test your B2 and your C1 English comprehension.
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We're going to discuss a very personal and often difficult stage of life
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that many of us will have to face at some point, and that's taking care of our parents, our elderly parents, our loved ones, and our relatives.
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Yes, exactly.
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So this, like always, it isn't just a simple chat about visiting your grandparents on the weekend.
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We want to help you practice your advanced English.
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And yeah, we're looking at a tough emotional choice that comes with getting older.
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So we'll be discussing some more difficult questions today, like is taking care of our parents our personal responsibility?
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Should adult children be expected to pause their careers and give up their income to become full-time caretakers?
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And maybe even harder questions, like at what point does keeping an older parent safe actually mean taking away their independence?
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Wow.
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Okay.
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So these are quite heavy topics.
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And really, it makes for great B2 and C1 discussion
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because it's something a lot of us are expected to fulfill as we age.
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But that can change from place to place, right?
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Depending on cultural differences, how you were brought up, maybe feelings around guilt and tough decisions.
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So these are rarely easy answers.
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These aren't easy solutions.
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And there's probably no right or wrong answer when you're trying to care for someone you love as they get older.
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Yeah, very curious to see the comments on this one, because I wonder if culturally this is just a very Western sort of first world problem.
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And yeah, so let us know in the comments either before or after you listen to today's lesson.
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okay so let's start with part one is caring for your aging parents is this a moral obligation
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or is it an unrealistic modern expectation okay
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so i'm going to mention this one again is caring for
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aging parents as your parents get older right is this a moral obligation do you have to do this?
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Or is this something that is unrealistic because we have lots of modern tools
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and services to help with this kind of thing?
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Okay, so let's start with the big overarching question.
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For generations in many cultures, it was simply an unspoken rule.
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When your parents get older, they move in with you and you take care of them.
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Multi-generational living was just kind of the standard, right?
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That's what you were expected to do.
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But modern life has shifted so drastically within only a generation or two.
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Families are geographically scattered, and the cost of living usually requires both partners to work full-time.
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I kind of would argue
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that expecting adult children to shoulder this intense burden of elder care is becoming an unrealistic expectation today.
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We live in a much more individualistic society now, especially as Americans, right?
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Choosing maybe an assisted living facility or professional care shouldn't be stigmatized as like abandoning your parents.
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I think it's probably the most practical and responsible way to ensure
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that your aging parents get specialized care and then you don't want to be clinging to this outdated cultural idea as well.
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Yeah, this is why I mentioned the comments earlier because yeah, I think Western life has become very individualistic.
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But then we've also visited places and lived in cultures which have multi-generational households, sometimes four generations under one roof,
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which is still completely normal.
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So yeah, I think you make a strong point about how scattered modern Western families are these days.
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And I think it's true, the modern attitude that comes with that often pushes us to chase our careers.
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And we might move across the country, we might move to a whole new country across the world.
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And that makes the traditional model of taking care of your elderly parents impossible.
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And so I completely understand the practical side of that argument and the logistics of modern life just make that more difficult.
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But I don't think there's a profound,
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almost innate moral obligation that you still can't brush aside regardless of how different society has become.
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And these are people who have sacrificed their own time.
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Our parents have sacrificed the money, sleep, to raise us when we were completely vulnerable.
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So to suddenly outsource their care
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when they become difficult to strangers the moment they become a
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burden feels to many people like a betrayal of those deeply rooted family values.
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And even if it's incredibly demanding, bringing them into your home or being their primary caregiver feels like the ultimate repayment of that lifelong debt.
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Well, yeah, of course.
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And okay, look, I don't want to sound like a bad person, right?
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I do obviously see the emotional weight of that.
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And you're right to point out those traditional values don't just disappear overnight, okay?
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Something that you really feel guilt about, of course.
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But honestly, it's true.
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The guilt associated with not being there 24-7 is very real because of that cultural expectation, right?
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You've got to be the good son or the good daughter, right?
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And that's still very heavily ingrained in us.
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I mean, I'm the eldest daughter.
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I was always kind of the one who was supposed to take care of my younger siblings
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and eventually take care of my parents as they got older.
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But honestly, I think viewing it as a debt, that can probably lead to burnout.
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It kind of romanticizes a situation that is brutally exhausting, taking care of another person as a caregiver.
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If a parent develops something like dementia or requires really complex medical assistance,
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an untrained family member might actually be doing them a disservice by trying to manage this all alone.
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The love and the good intentions are there, but the medical expertise simply isn't.
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That's fair.
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Yeah, it would be the blind leading the blind.
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Yeah, I have no idea how to treat someone with dementia or a physical disability either.
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So yeah, I have to agree with you there.
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It's easy to look through these rose-tinted glasses of being like a good son,
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a good daughter, and the cycle returning to itself was that the parent becomes the child.
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So I think it's easy to forget
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that our ancestors didn't have to manage these complex long-term medical conditions
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that we see today because your life expectancy was so much shorter.
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So the model that we're thinking about, the moral model we have now, maybe doesn't quite fit modern medicine where people can live for so much longer.
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And yeah, I think you're right that wanting to help doesn't automatically mean you're equipped to do so.
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There's a distinct line between providing some emotional companionship and then trying to be a nurse or a substitute doctor.
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And then the friction really arises when society and often our own internal guilt expects you to perfectly balance both of them.
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So you're torn between a traditional cultural duty and then pragmatic modern reality like your job, your rent, your own children,
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which inevitably leads us to the financial side of the situation.
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So yes, that leads us to the second topic we're going to debate, the sandwich generation dilemma.
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Should you sacrifice your career and your own financial stability to provide care?
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Good question.
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Great question.
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Yeah, this was a new term for me when I was researching this, the sandwich generation.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, this is what sociologists are calling adults who are simultaneously raising their own children
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and taking care of their aging parents at the same time.
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So aging parents, them and the young children.
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So they are the meat in the middle of the sandwich.
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And it's an immense squeeze.
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And what's fascinating is how subtly it usually begins.
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There's also another phenomenon experts are calling the caregiver creep.
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And it starts innocently enough with just some light tasks to help your elderly parents, like you pick up a prescription, grab them some shopping or groceries,
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or you drive them to a doctor's appointment.
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And then before you know it, these small favors snowball into an avalanche of full-time caregiving.
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And from my perspective, taking a step back from your career to manage this creeping responsibility is a noble sacrifice, but it can be financially devastating.
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You aren't just losing your current salary, you're stalling your career trajectory.
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Maybe you're missing out on pension contributions if you don't work, and you're potentially jeopardizing your own children's financial future as a result.
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So as harsh as it sounds, sacrificing your own long-term stability might be a price that's too steep to pay.
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Speaking about that caregiver creep and the sandwich, I watched my aunt, who is the youngest of her siblings.
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I watched my aunt care for my grandparents who were upwards of 85 to 90.
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She went from her full-time job taking care of her parents, continuing to raise her children.
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So she was an example of both.
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That turned into dentist appointments,
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medical appointments, post-surgery, pre-surgery, chiropractic appointments, anything and everything in between.
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she ended up quitting her job for almost three years in order to take care of them until they passed away.
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And they were even in a home.
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They had lots of medical services, but they preferred being with their daughter instead of being with these strangers.
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So, I mean, I'm seeing it happen to, yes, my parents and my taking care of their parents.
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But now that both sets of my grandparents are gone, this is something that we'll be looking forward to.
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Yeah, you're next happening in the next, you know, 10, 15 years, taking that time off being the full-time caregiver.
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I mean, that is an incredibly steep price, right?
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I mean, think about it.
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Professional full-time care or a reputable nursing home is exorbitantly expensive.
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For a lot of families, paying out of pocket for this level of care is going to drain their life savings in a matter of years, Right.
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So someone stepping away from their career often isn't a choice made out of nobility.
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Yes, I'll leave my job for you.
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It's kind of it's sort of the only option.
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Right.
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It's an absolute necessity because they simply can't afford the alternatives.
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Other than that, that kind of caregiver creep you mentioned, it's so insidious
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because people often don't recognize they cross this line into being a full time unpaid caregiver until they're completely overwhelmed.
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I mean, my aunt was taking care of both my grandfather and my grandmother, right?
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So the emotional toll of pausing your life breeds a lot of hidden resentment.
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I mean, my aunt's a wonderful woman, but it really, really was very burdensome for her.
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She wasn't able to live her own life for at least a few years until they passed, which is really sad.
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I mean, of course, you love your parents, but feeling like your own life has to be put on hold indefinitely.
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I mean, that would be a very bitter pill to swallow.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And then that resentment can poison the very relationship you're trying to protect.
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And not to mention caregiving can become incredibly isolating because the workload creeps up on you.
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You often find yourself detached from your usual community, your social networks, your support networks, without realizing how it happens.
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You're busy all the time just taking care of your parents.
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So it's a catch-22 situation.
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You're ruined financially if you pay for care, but then you risk your career and your mental health if you do it yourself.
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So pick your poison.
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There's no good choices.
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So this is where parents and their children need open,
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brutally honest conversations that need to happen before their parents really need supportive care.
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Otherwise, it's usually just one sibling or child who ends up bearing the brunt of the responsibility.
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I mean, this is just, this is proactive, right?
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You need to be having these conversations because,
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I mean, usually what happens is kind of one sibling happens to live closer or perhaps earns a little less.
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So they feel like their job is less important than the other siblings.
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And suddenly they are the designated caregiver kind of by default, right?
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It kind of, it really does.
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It highlights how important it is to set those boundaries before people get sick, right?
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Even if it's really uncomfortable and it's something that you're not used to, you really have to because these things are inevitable.
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Yeah, I agree about those family dynamics.
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It's so easy for these unspoken assumptions to take over.
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But in reality, everyone is just avoiding the difficult conversation about who's going to take care of mom and dad.
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And yeah, while we're talking about the strain it causes, we also have to consider the impact on the bottom slice of the sandwich, which is the younger children.
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If your time and energy are entirely consumed by caring for a parent with high needs,
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your own kids are inevitably going to receive less of your attention.
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So it's an impossible, quite heartbreaking juggling act where someone always ends up feeling shortchanged.
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Yeah, it's true.
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And I mean, yeah, it's a very sobering thought.
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I mean, we all want to be happy and carefree all the time.
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But you are absolutely right to bring that up.
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This guilt truly comes from both directions.
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You constantly feel like you're failing your parents.
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And now on top of that, you're shortchanging your kids at the exact same time.
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All right.
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It really reinforces the idea that this isn't just an individual family problem.
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It's a broader systemic issue, right?
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We simply lack the societal infrastructure to support families who are trying to navigate this double burden, right?
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Leaving everyday people to try
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and manage this caregiver creep completely on their own without the help of community and without the help of government initiatives.
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Right.
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It's a whole silent workforce out there receiving no financial.
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But there are some benefits.
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Governments will support people at working as caregivers, but it's not nearly enough to cover the bills.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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OK, so we're on to part three and we're going to be talking about autonomy versus safety.
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OK, when is it time to take away grandma's driver's license? right?
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This is kind of always the big one.
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I think this is the one you kind of see in movies and you kind of think, oh, little old lady driving down the street, hitting the mailbox and things like that.
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Okay.
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When do you step in and make decisions that potentially are against their will, right?
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So this kind of leads us into our final and perhaps most emotionally taxing debate.
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I mean, the other bits are pretty emotionally taxing, but this is another one.
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So this is the battle between preserving your aging parents' independence, their autonomy, but also ensuring their safety, right?
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My grandparents, especially on my dad's side, they were very stubborn, okay?
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My granny did not want to give up her driver's license, But there almost always comes a tipping point,
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right, where a parent's cognitive or physical decline becomes a genuine hazard to themselves or to others.
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But let's be real, stepping in and taking away their car keys
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or forcing them to move out of their own home that they've lived in for 40 years, that can truly be devastating for some people.
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I mean, I would be horrified, you know, if I couldn't drive in this, you know, car centric society.
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And then also you're taking me away from my bed
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and my things and my house that really could have some lasting damage.
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It strips them of their autonomy, their dignity, and it can easily create a rift or resentment in your relationship.
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I mean, you did this to me, you took me away, right?
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Right.
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You know, after all, this is what's crazy to think is our aging parents.
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They're the parents.
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Right.
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And we're the children.
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Right.
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But even if the kids are grown adults, we're the kids, we're the children.
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And I tend to lean towards the idea that adults, even elderly ones, do have the right to make their own,
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albeit sometimes poor decisions and take on certain risks if it means that they get to maintain their independence.
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And what's more important for me is their pride.
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Yeah, it's so difficult because you're essentially reversing the parent-child dynamic.
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Again, like I said before, the parent becomes the child again.
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And it can be very jarring to suddenly be the authority
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figure with the power over your parents for maybe the first time in your life, even when you're 40 or 50 years old.
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But I still think I'd take the opposite stance.
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So I think stripping away their autonomy is awful and painful, but the alternative is living in a constant state of dread.
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Like if you know your father is leaving the oven on, or your mother's very prone to falling down stairs or is quite fragile,
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their safety at some point has to trump their pride.
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My grandmother, for example, my dad walked into the house and the oven was on, and it had been on for 12 hours.
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And apparently she was trying to cook food at four in the morning and didn't know what time it was.
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So things like that, that could have been disastrous in the end.
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And yeah, you might feel guilty for being paternalistic and forcing them into a new environment.
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But that guilt is nothing compared to the remorse you would feel if they had a severe injury or worse.
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So, and that's all because you were too afraid to intervene.
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Look, I hear you.
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And the potential for your parent to burn down the house, that's very anxiety inducing.
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But sometimes forcing an elderly person and your parent, remember, these are your parents, right?
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Kind of if you're forcing your parents out of their familiar environment, this can trigger rapid mental decline.
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They lose their sense of purpose, their routine.
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If they've already lost their partner, they're already a little bit lost in this world.
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They lose their community, their neighbors.
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You might be keeping their body safe, but you could be accelerating their emotional decline.
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It's just an agonizing balancing act between physical safety and mental well-being.
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Yeah, I think hearing you put it that way, I can see how completely stripping away their environment might actually do more harm than good in the long run.
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And if we prioritize their physical safety to the point where they lose their entire sense of self or purpose, then what's the point?
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What are we really saving?
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Okay, well, there you have it.
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Quite a heavy, serious topic today.
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Taking care of older relatives is really easy, brings up tough questions about family duty,
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money, independence, but it is something most of us will have to face at some point.
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And from our discussion today, talking about it openly is the best way to start preparing for it.
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Absolutely.
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We would love to hear from you in the comments.
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Do you think that adult children have a responsibility to care for their parents?
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Would you pause your career to do it?
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And how do you balance keeping them safe with letting them be independent?
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So let us know what you think.
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