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I never particularly know how I'm going to play a scene.
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It's like us as human beings, we don't know when we walk into a room how we're going to react.
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We just react in the moment, so that's what you try and do as an actor.
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It's certainly what I try and do.
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Hello, GQ.
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This is Cillian Murphy, and I am going to answer some questions about Oppenheimer.
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In a previous GQ interview, you said you felt like you weren't Bruce Wayne material.
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Did you feel that way with Oppenheimer?
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Yeah, I certainly wasn't Bruce Wayne material, I don't think.
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Maybe I could have played Bruce Wayne, but maybe not Batman.
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But that's a different story.
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I always feel about parts that if it's easy or that I can do it, then I don't really want to do it.
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It has to feel like a challenge.
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It has to feel impossible.
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It has to feel like a huge undertaking.
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And certainly with Oppenheimer, he is this iconic 20th century figure and we are all living in a world that Oppenheimer created.
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So it was a huge, huge part, and I recognized the scale of it.
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But that's what you want as an actor.
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That's what you want.
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You want to be pushed.
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You want to be challenged.
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And so it was a huge challenge, but one that I embraced.
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What was your favorite piece of your Oppenheimer wardrobe?
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I mean, I should say the hat, shouldn't I?
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But I didn't keep any of it.
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Hated the pipe.
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It took me a long time to figure out the pipe, even though that's probably technically a prop.
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I loved the suits.
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I loved the tailoring of the suits.
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I love those high -waisted pleated pants.
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They're very flattering, I think, to men, but nobody wears them anymore.
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Bring them back, I say.
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How did you feel about J.
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Robert Oppenheimer before you started, and how did you feel when you finished the role?
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I've been asked this question a lot, and the only answer that I can give
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that I think makes any sense is that I felt that he was intensely human,
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and I felt that despite his sort of one -in -a -million generational genius that he had,
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that he was still as flawed and as contradictory and as fallible as the rest of us are as human beings.
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You know, his brilliance, I treated it less like a gift
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and more like a burden in order to play the humanity of him.
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They won't fear it until they understand it, and they won't understand it until they've used it.
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When the world learns the terrible secret of Los Alamos, our work here will ensure a peace mankind has never seen.
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And the other thing is I don't really go into projects to try and learn about characters.
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I try to understand them.
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I never particularly know how I'm going to play a scene before I get into it.
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I mean, I'll know the lines.
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But, you know, it's like us as human beings, we don't know when we walk into a room how we're going to adjust to the changing dynamics.
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We just react to the moment.
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So that's what you try and do as an actor.
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It's certainly what I try and do.
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Is it true you were only eating almonds for dinner in Turing film?
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No, this is apocryphal.
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I think Emily was being very sympathetic to me and said, oh, Killian only had one almond a day.
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I mean, I had a bit more than that.
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I didn't really have enough room in my brain to be socializing with the rest of the cast
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and crew at that time, because it's so much work to do and, you know, I was kind of reducing calories and all that stuff.
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So just I didn't I didn't go out for dinner or any of that stuff.
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But I had more than one almond a day.
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Sure, I wouldn't recommend anyone exists on an almond a day.
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What was it like shooting in Oppenheimer's actual Los Alamos house?
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That was amazing.
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The whole film was shot on location.
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There was only one studio build, I think, in the whole shoot.
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And many of the locations were the actual locations where the events went down historically.
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I remember myself and Emily Blunt walked into it
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and you can feel there's an energy in the room there's some vibrations molecularly in that space that you feel,
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that you know that these actual people have lived there.
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And it certainly adds something to your performance.
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It can't help but do that.
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And we shot in Berkeley on the campus where he would have taught.
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And Chris always has tried to do that.
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That scene after the bomb is dropped in Japan, he tries to give that speech.
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That was shot in Los Alamos in Fuller Lodge, where the scientists used to gather.
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again you feel these these waves of energy these kind of residences and I think it adds something to a performance.
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I can't put my finger on what it is
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but I believe energetically it does change the actors and the crew
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and everybody feels the significance of the import of what we're doing.
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How has your working relationship with Christopher Nolan evolved since Batman begins through Inception and Dunkirk to Oppenheimer?
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Well I remember when we first started working we had no kids
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and now he is four and I have two so that's one thing that's changed and evolved.
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His vision has become more refined.
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I think he really, really knows very clearly the sorts of stories that he wants to tell.
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The way he tells the stories in terms of how he presents them in the IMAX format, I think has been refined.
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and honed and is unlike any other filmmaker on the planet.
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I think our relationship has deepened.
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You know, I think any time you re -collaborate with someone that many times, which has been six times over 20 years,
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I think, you develop this shorthand that becomes almost like telepathy.
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You know, we can understand what needs to happen in a scene without talking that much.
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And that's why people re -collaborate, I think, because of that.
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Because you can just cut through all the getting to know you, testing the waters and just go straight to the work.
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Sometimes the themes and the scenes are so large in what you're trying to tackle, and like particularly on Oppenheimer,
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because it was the greatest moral dilemmas that a human being could possibly sort of begin to wrestle with or undertake.
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I mean, they thought when they were going to test the bomb, there was a chance they were going to vaporize the world.
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So, you know, you don't really have to discuss that.
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Neutrons smash into nucleus releasing neutrons, to smash into other nuclei.
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Criticality, point of no return, massive explosive force.
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But this time the chain reaction doesn't stop.
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It would ignite the atmosphere.
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He and I have a similar taste in terms of performance, and I knew from the beginning that the performance would have to be quite interior, and I think he understood that too.
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And he was shooting on these large form of cameras, which meant that he was treating the face kind of as a landscape
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which he hadn't done before with them so i knew
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that i could have this interiority with the performance and
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and he trusted me with that so you said before
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that christopher nolan makes big films feel like small films does
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that apply to oppenheimer did i say
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that you know he makes films about about human beings um but he's interested in big, big themes.
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Makes them on a big scale.
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But when you're shooting them, it certainly feels like, it feels like an independent film because there's just Chris,
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there's just one camera, there's the boom -off, and there's the actors, there's no video village.
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There's none of the sort of trappings of conventional studio huge movie that you normally expect.
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So it feels very intimate.
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So even when you're filming with the IMAX in your face, How did you get through?
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Well, I've been working with Chris for so long now, I'm kind of used to them.
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It's not really a big deal.
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And the only thing about them is they make a tremendous racket, but then we do a sound take afterwards.
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So, you know, you get used to the environment.
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It feels like a laboratory when you're working at Chris Nolan's set
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because you're free to experiment and try and make a fool of yourself.
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And he loves actors.
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He's incredibly curious about actors.
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So it feels it always feels like a very small, private, safe environment.
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What was the most difficult scene for you to shoot?
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It was all a challenge.
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I really liked the hearing scene at the end, which cuts backwards and forwards to when they're trying to take away his security clearance
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and they're just humiliating him in this tiny, shitty, awful, little bureaucratic room.
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And we shot it in the room just like that.
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And we had the whole crew in there and the IMAX camera.
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And to me, it felt like my days in theater where, you know, it was just this company of actors, this troupe of actors
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and we would just go at it day after day, and there were these long, long dialogue scenes and these huge kind of one -on -ones, a tete -a -tetes with Jason Clarke,
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and then, you know, Emily Blunt would come in and do her wonderful work.
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It was at the end of the shoot, and we shot it for about two weeks, I think, so all these actors, these incredible actors are coming in and giving their testimony,
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but it was also their final scene on set, so there's this emotionality to it because we'd finished, and we were all kind of saying goodbye in real life.
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And then, of course, we did that final kind of climactic scene where you kind of feel.
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I would have done anything I was asked to do.
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Well then you would have killed the H -bomb too, wouldn't you?
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I couldn't.
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I didn't ask you that, Doctor!
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It's almost like his whole psyche is kind of exploding in the room.
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And of course with Chris, he did that practical, like, blew the wall out and stuff like that.
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And all that crazy light and everything.
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That was the segment of the shoot that I loved the most.
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I loved being out in the desert as well, except it was fucking freezing, which is not supposed to be in a desert.
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Was there a source material piece that you reference frequently?
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I think with all projects, the script is your most valuable resource always, because that's what's going to end up on screen.
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With this, we also had American Prometheus, the book, which Chris adapted for his screenplay.
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And then there is just endless, endless amounts of reading material available on Oppenheimer and that time, and there's so much archive footage available.
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So I sampled from all of it and used all of it.
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And I was kind of working on two different tracks.
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I was kind of doing the academic part, the kind of intellectual part, and then I was doing the physical part.
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And then there was a third track, which was just the kind of instinctual part.
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They all kind of fed into eventually what became the performance.
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I love research and Chris loves prep, so that worked.
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But I think when you get on set, you can't be finished.
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Do you know what I mean?
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The character can't be there.
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It has to evolve over the shoot.
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So it's always a work in progress all the time.
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And for me, acting is always an instinctual exercise, not an intellectual one.
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I love reading and I love absorbing all the information.
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But ultimately, when you get on stage, it has to be emotional and truthful.
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All the academia in the world ain't gonna help you then.
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What are your thoughts on practical effects versus CGI?
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Well, again, because I've worked with Chris for so long, and I'm such a fan of how he makes and presents films,
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I really believe that the audience responds in a different way to in -camera real effects.
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And I think we've become so sophisticated at consuming films and that horrible word content, we are much more cynical,
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I think, about effects that don't look true and truthful.
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And I know it isn't possible all the time, but I'm very much of the belief that when it can happen in camera, it should.
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Certainly from a performer's point of view, when you're in the real environment and effects are happening around you, it does something to you and how you respond,
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you know, that transfers to the camera and it kind of electrifies the performance, you know?
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I mean, I remember on Inception, that first scene where I meet Leo in a bar and Chris wanted the water and the glass to tilt,
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so he built the whole set on a gimbal so that the whole set would tilt like that.
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So we all were going like this on that set, you know, and that you feel that as performers.
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So it does something to how you perform.
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The day you finished filming, how did you celebrate being able to step out of your Oppenheimer brain?
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How did I do?
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I probably had a big sandwich and a pint of Guinness or something like that.
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It takes a while when you're deep into the work
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and you've been playing a character like that for such a long time.
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And I'm not talking about the method or anything like that, I'm just talking about the focus.
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Doing it for that long with all the prep for, you know, 15, 16, 17 hours a day and there's an abrupt stop.
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You have an awful lot of displaced energy.
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You're neither the character or yourself, you're somewhere in the middle.
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And yeah, it takes a minute, it takes longer than that.
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But you know, you go on a holiday and you hang out with your family and then eventually
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you find somewhere else to put all that kind of focused energy.
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It's always a little heartbreaking finishing a job, but then you kind of move on.
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We're just like, it's like a traveling circus, you know.
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What is your favorite historical time period that you've gotten to live through in your roles?
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Yeah, I seem to have played a lot of characters from the past.
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I don't know, every time I was playing those characters, they seemed to be living through terrible upheaval and strife.
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So I'm not quite sure.
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I mean, the 20s seemed like fun, I'm sure, if you had a bit of money.
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There was great music in the 20s.
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I would have been into that.
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If I could just step off the set and just go to the clubs and listen to the music, I'd be happy.
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In the 70s or the 20s or even the 50s, I'd be just in the clubs, listen to music.

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