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Chairman.
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Thank you, Senator Rono.
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Senator Kott.
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Mr. Chu, let's cut straight to the chase.
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Is TikTok under the influence of the Chinese Communist Party?
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No, Senator.
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We are a private business.
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Okay, so you can see that your parent, ByteDance, is subject to the 2017 National Security Law,
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which requires Chinese companies to turn over information to the Chinese government and conceal it from the rest of the world.
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You You concede that, correct?
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Senator, the Chinese business...
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That's another question.
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You conceded it early.
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Any company that does, any global businesses does business in China has to follow their local laws.
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Isn't it the case that ByteDance also has an internal Chinese Communist Party committee?
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Like I said, all businesses that operate in China have to follow their local law.
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So your parent company is subject to the national security law that requires it to answer the party.
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It has its own internal Chinese Communist Party committee.
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You answer to that parent company, but you expect us to believe that you're not under the influence of the Chinese Communist Party?
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I understand this concern, Senator, which is why we built Project Texas.
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Okay, it was a yes or no question.
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Okay.
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But you used to work for ByteDance, didn't you?
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You were the CFO for ByteDance?
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That is correct, Senator.
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In April 2021, while you were the CFO,
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the Chinese Communist Party's China Internet Investment Fund purchased a 1% stake in ByteDance's main Chinese subsidiary, the ByteDance Technology Company.
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In return for that so-called 1% golden share, the party took one of three board seats at that subsidiary company.
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That's correct, isn't it?
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It's for the Chinese business.
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Is that correct?
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It's for the Chinese business, yes.
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That deal was finalized on April 30th, 2021.
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Isn't it true that you were appointed the CEO of TikTok the very next day on May 1, 2021?
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Well, it's a coincidence.
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It's a coincidence that you and the CFO, that the Chinese Communist Party took its golden share in its board seat
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and the very next day you were appointed the CEO of TikTok?
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That's a hell of a coincidence.
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It really is, Senator.
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Yeah, it is.
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Okay.
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And before ByteDance, you were at a Chinese company called Xiaomi, is that correct?
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Yes, I used to work around the world.
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Where did you live when you worked at Xiaomi?
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I lived in China, like many experts. Where exactly?
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In Beijing, in China.
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How many years did you live in Beijing?
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Senator, I worked there for about five years.
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So you lived there for five years?
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Yes.
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Isn't it the case that Xiaomi was sanctioned by the United States government in 2021 for being a communist Chinese military company?
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I'm here to talk about TikTok.
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I think they then had a lawsuit and it was overturned.
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I can't remember the details.
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It's It was the Biden administration that reversed those sanctions, just like, by the way, they reversed the terrorist designation on the Houthis in Yemen.
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How's that working out for them?
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But it was sanctioned as a Chinese communist military company.
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So you said today, as you often say, that you live in Singapore.
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Of what nation are you a citizen?
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Singapore.
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Are you a citizen of any other nation?
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No, Senator.
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Have you ever applied for Chinese citizenship?
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Senator, I served my nation in Singapore.
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No, I did not.
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Do you have a Singaporean passport?
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Yes, and I served my military for two and a half years in Singapore.
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Do you have any other passports from any other nations?
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No, Senator.
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Your wife is an American citizen.
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Your children are American citizens.
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That's correct.
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Have you ever applied for American citizenship?
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No, not yet.
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Okay.
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Have you ever been a member of the Chinese Communist Party?
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Senator, I'm Singaporean.
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No. Have you ever been associated or affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party?
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No, Senator.
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Again, I'm Singaporean.
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Let me ask you some hopefully simple questions.
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You said earlier in response to your question that what happened at Tiananmen Square in June of 1989 was a massive protest.
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Anything else happened in Tiananmen Square?
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Yes, I think it's well documented.
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There was a massacre.
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There was an indiscriminate slaughter of hundreds or thousands of Chinese citizens.
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Do you agree with the Trump administration and the Biden administration that the Chinese government is committing genocide against the Uyghur people?
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Senator, I've said this before.
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I think it's really It's really important that anyone who cares about this topic
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or any topic can freely express themselves on TikTok.
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It's a very simple question that unites both parties in our country and governments around the world.
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Is the Chinese government committing genocide against the Uyghur people?
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Senator, anyone, including, you know, you can come into TikTok and talk about this topic or any topic that matters to you.
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You are a worldly, cosmopolitan, well-educated man who's expressed many opinions on many topics.
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Is the Chinese government committing genocide against the Uyghur people?
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Actually, Senator, I talk amazingly about my company, and I'm here to talk about what TikTok does.
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Yes or no, you're here to give testimony that's truthful and honest and complete.
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Let me ask you this.
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Joe Biden last year said that Xi Jinping was a dictator.
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Do you agree with Joe Biden?
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Is Xi Jinping a dictator?
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Senator, I'm not going to comment on any world leaders.
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Why won't you answer these very simple questions?
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Senator, it's not appropriate for me as a businessman to comment on world leaders.
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Are you scared that you'll lose your job if you say anything negative about the Chinese Communist Party?
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I disagree with that.
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You will find content that is critical of China on our platform.
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Are you scared that you'll be arrested and disappear the next time you go to mainland China?
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Senator, you will find content that's critical of China and any other country freely on TikTok.
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Okay, okay.
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Let's turn to what TikTok, a tool of the Chinese Communist Party, is doing to America's youth.
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Does the name Mason Edens ring a bell?
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Senator, you may have to give me more specifics, if you don't mind.
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Yeah, he was a 16-year-old Arkansan.
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After a breakup in 2022, he went on your platform and searched for things like inspirational quotes and positive affirmations.
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Instead, he was served up numerous videos glamorizing suicide until he killed himself by gun.
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What about the name Chase Nazca?
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Does that ring a bell?
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Would you mind giving me more details, please?
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He was a 16-year-old who saw more than a thousand videos on your platform about violence
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and suicide until he took his own life by stepping in front of a plane or train.
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Are you aware that his parents, Dean and Michelle, are suing TikTok and ByteDance for pushing their son to take his own life?
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Yes, I'm aware of that.
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Okay.
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Finally, Mr. Chu, has the Federal Trade Commission sued TikTok during the Biden administration?
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Senator, I cannot talk about whether there's any ongoing...
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Are you currently being sued by the Federal Trade Commission?
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Senator, I cannot talk about any potential lawsuits.
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I didn't say potential, actual.
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Are you being sued by the Federal Trade Commission?
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Senator, I think I've given you my answer.
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I cannot talk about...
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The answer is no. Ms. Yaccarino's company is being sued, I believe.
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Mr. Zuckerberg's company is being sued, I believe.
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Yet TikTok, the agent of the Chinese Communist Party, is not being sued by the Biden administration.
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Are you familiar with the name Christina Kifara?
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You may have to give me more details.
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Christina Kofara was a paid advisor to ByteDance, your communist-influenced parent company.
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She was then hired by the Biden FTC to advise on how to sue Mr. Zuckerberg's company.
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Senator, ByteDance is a global company and not a Chinese communist company.
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Public reports indicate that your lobbyists visited the White House more than 40 times in 2022.
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How many times did your company's lobbyists visit the White House last year?
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I don't know that.
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Are you aware that the Biden campaign and the Democratic National Committee is on your platform?
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They have TikTok accounts?
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Senator, we encourage people to come on.
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Which, by the way, they won't let their staffers use their personal phones.
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They give them separate phones that they only use TikTok on.
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We encourage everyone to join, including yourself, Senator.
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So all these companies are being sued by the FTC.
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You're not.
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The FTC has a former paid advisory or parent talking about how they can sue Mr. Zuckerberg's company.
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Joe Biden's re-election campaign, the Democratic National Committee is on your platform.
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Let me ask you, have you or anyone else at TikTok communicated with or coordinated with the Biden administration,
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the Biden campaign, or the Democratic National Committee to influence the flow of information on your platform?
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We work with anyone, any creators who want to use our campaign.
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It's all the same process that we have.
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So what we have here, we have a company that's a tool of the Chinese Communist Party that is poisoning the minds of America's children, in some cases driving them to suicide,
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and that at best the Biden administration is taking a pass on, at worst maybe in collaboration with.
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Thank you, Mr. Chu.
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Thank you, Senator Cotton.
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So we're going to take a break now.
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We're on the second roll call.
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Members can take advantage of it.
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They wish the break will last about 10 minutes.
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Please do your best to return.
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