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Reza Reviewer My story starts in Moscow.

I was 15 years old.

My best friend and I,

we were part of a group of Westerners visiting the Soviet Union.

This was in 1987, a few years before the fall of the communist regime.

We were given an official tour guide who was assigned to us,

and the tour would start in the morning,

and we were checked into our hotel rooms for the night.

My friend said to me,

let's go outside and look at the city.

I thought it was a great idea.

Dumb idea.

So we grabbed our coats and we snuck out past security and into the street.

We found the entrance to the metro.

The Moscow Underground's transportation system is the deepest one in the world.

The ride down the escalator took a full minute.

Once we were down there,

my friend headed right to an open train,

and I pulled him back,

I said, wait, let's write down the name of the station so we can find our way back.

So I had a notepad,

and I took a notepad,

and I wrote down the letters of the station,

and we hopped on the train and went some train hopping.

And that was fun because,

well, actually it was weird.

There were a lot of people,

probably all coming home from work,

and they were all dressed in brown and grey clothes,

and it looked very, very different from what we were used to at home.

But the stations were lovely.

There were stations with statues,

with paintings on the wall,

and glass displays, and it was really like museums.

We would never have expected that,

and everything was perfectly clean.

Well, what was weird, though,

is that the people, nobody seemed to speak,

and everyone seemed to be looking at us,

and it kind of weirded us out.

So after about 20, 30 minutes,

we had enough, and we wanted to go home.

I showed my note to someone,

and they directed me over there,

and then over there, I showed my note to another person,

and they directed us to the other way.

And then a third person directed us sideways.

That was a little confusing.

Oh, then I saw it,

over the stairs, the sign.

Turned out, I had written down the Russian word for exit.

So we headed upstairs and we found a taxi,

that was great, and told the driver,

you know, in Tourist Hotel,

and he was willing to take us.

I remember sitting next to the driver,

handing him 50 rubles, and he looked at me and he said, Njöt, Dolar.

Fifty dollars, that was like,

I don't know, 20 times that amount or something.

That was not an option for us,

so we had to get out of the taxi and he drove away,

leaving us standing there.

It was a cold night,

and everything was strange for us,

and we were teenagers, and we were pretty nervous,

didn't know what to do.

Well, we started walking, we walked to the end of the block,

we turned the corner, and 200 yards in front of us, the Interest Hotel.

Well, this experience affected me in two ways.

The first is that any time after this trip that I would hear anyone speak Russian,

I would just cringe.

And the second one is that it taught me the importance of understanding the local language when you're traveling.

And it actually led to me learning another four languages fluently over the following years.

Now, before I go on,

I'd like to know in the audience,

can we have a little bit of light maybe in the audience?

Just like to know who's,

by show of hands, who is not a native English speaker?

That must be 99%.

Anyone who doesn't speak English, stand up.

All right, so I can assume all of you have,

you know, gone through the process of learning a language.

Anybody who speaks three or more languages?

Wow, that is maybe 70%.

Four or more languages, anyone?

That's still quite a bit.

Anyone speak five or more languages?

Wow come see me during the break.

All right, well, to me,

learning a language is, for me,

it's like a deck of playing cards lying face down on the table.

As you start learning and understanding,

the cards start opening up for you.

Now, there's no standard way of classifying this,

but as you learn, you reach certain milestones,

and the first one would be when about 25% of the cards are turned up,

you reach like a basic level.

At this level, you have a base vocabulary,

some grammar, and you're able to have maybe very simple conversations and communicate a little bit.

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And your study goes on until you reach this magical point of fluency,

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what we call being fluent in a language.

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Now, what does this mean?

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Being fluent in a language,

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it means that you've turned up more than 50% of the cards in the deck,

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And that is the point where the language becomes part of your subconscious

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so that even if you don't use it anymore for 10 years or longer,

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you will not forget it.

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You can get back into it within a very, very short time.

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So this is a level where you're comfortable thinking in the language and comfortable communicating in the language.

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Now, some people go on and reach a mastery level.

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By that time, you know classic literature in the other language and have maybe an in-depth knowledge of specialized fields.

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That's often the point taken in academia.

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For me, when I learned my first foreign language,

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I had a head start because,

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well, I was born to a German-speaking mother and an American father.

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Now, when I was a baby,

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I didn't really understand that what my parents were speaking to me were two separate languages.

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But by the time I was two years old,

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I had figured it all out.

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Women speak only German.

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Men only speak English.

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Imagine the fun my parents had when they introduced me to couples.

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Well, being a bilingual was actually pretty helpful in learning my first language.

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It definitely helped.

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But it also gave me something else.

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It gave me two identities and the ability to switch between them.

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When you're a native speaker of more than one language,

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then your personality, your humor,

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your value system, they change as you switch languages.

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This can have huge advantages.

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I mean, some studies have shown an increased problem-solving ability,

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or even a higher resistance to Alzheimer's disease.

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But what I'm most interested in is that it's actually given me a lot of social benefits.

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When you're a native speaker,

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and then you feel at home among native speakers,

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in a culture, and also native speakers accept you as one of theirs.

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Now, is this only relevant to native speakers?

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And that's the big question.

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But wouldn't it be cool if a person learning a foreign language could actually develop another identity

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and actually enjoy the social benefits of a native speaker that go beyond communication skills?

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Well, that's what happened to me.

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I was able to do that,

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and I want to show you from my experience how I think this can be achieved.

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So if we say this green area here is the level of the native speaker,

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the first thing to note is that on your way to reaching fluency,

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there is not really any shortcut.

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There are some methods that you can use,

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such as the Pareto Principle,

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where you identify the 20% of the most effective material to study.

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There are some apps for time-spaced learning that increase vocabulary retention.

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They save a little time,

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but in the end, there's no way around working with the material,

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practicing it, until you reach the fluency level.

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But the second thing to note is

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that going from fluency to mastery is a much slower process and it requires proportionally more effort.

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And that's why most people,

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they just stop at fluency.

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They know how to speak English,

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good enough, and they don't even attempt to venture on,

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and I can understand it.

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But the good news is,

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to get the benefits of a native speaker at a native speaker level,

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you don't have to go through mastery in the academic sense.

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In fact, you can skip this step altogether.

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So, if you think about it,

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there are many native speakers who do not have an in-depth knowledge of specialized fields or sophisticated vocabulary,

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so that's not really what is required.

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So how do you do it?

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What is required?

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Well, I want to give you three areas to focus on when you're learning and interacting with native speakers.

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The first is work on eliminating your accent.

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I'm aware I said eliminating.

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It should be at least minimizing it.

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This is, in my opinion,

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the most overlooked aspect of language learning today,

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but it's also the most important one to reach what I call a native speaker level or a speaker-like level.

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If you communicate without an accent or almost without an accent,

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this changes how natives behave towards you unconsciously,

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and it also gives you an ability to adapt a new self-image.

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The best way that I have found,

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the best exercise I have found,

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to improve your pronunciation is what I call the perfect sentence technique technique.

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What you do is you find a native speaker to help you,

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and you take a book in the foreign language,

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you open it at a random page,

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and you read the first sentence.

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Then you ask the native speaker to rate you on obvious accent,

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slight accent, no accent.

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Then the native speaker will read this sentence back to you.

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You have to listen carefully, and then you repeat.

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And you repeat this process over and over until the native speaker tells you

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that he can no longer hear an accent when you read the sentence.

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Now, I realize it can take a very long time even just to get one sentence right.

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But I promise you, if you are persistent and if you patiently work on this,

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you will be amazed what happens to your accent.

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The second area to focus on is using verbs and expressions that locals use.

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Now, we all know the situation that vocabulary can be region-specific.

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Like in the US, you stand in line,

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in the UK, you cue.

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That's all good, but sometimes the spoken word is so different,

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the speech is so different from what you get in textbooks,

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that the books are almost useless if you want to converse with natives.

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I want to give you an example.

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In the French language, there are words like le travail,

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which is my work.

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A French person talking to his friend would probably say mon boulot,

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which is a completely different word.

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The same for the clothes are les vêtements,

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but you will hear les fringues.

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Or money is l'argent, but people say le fric,

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les sous, or many other expressions for this.

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So, obviously, I'm only scratching the surface here,

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but here you actually have to learn all of these words and expressions one by one.

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And, of course, you have to interact with natives to do that.

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But after you reach a critical mass that you are comfortable with,

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it'll actually be easier.

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When you encounter something new,

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you'll just pick it up in one go,

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like native speakers would, who hear words or expressions they didn't know before.

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The third area to work on is adopting cultural traits.

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What do I mean by that?

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So, let me ask you,

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what does this gesture mean to you?

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Any Italians here?

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Okay, now, depending on what culture you're from,

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this could mean something rude,

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or it could just mean something incredulous,

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like, why did you do that, Or how could you?

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Or it could just be signaling food, give me food.

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Interesting, in the Middle East,

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this is just a standard way of signaling, please wait.

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So these kind of traits you have to internalize,

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and sometimes they're hard to spot,

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and it takes a lot of active listening.

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I want to give you a few more examples.

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Imagine I'm with three of my friends,

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There's an American, a German, and a Frenchman.

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And we're walking and maybe the American bumps his head,

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and his initial reaction might be, ouch!

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That's how you say it in English.

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But the German that gets,

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I don't know, elbowed in the crowd, he would say, awa!

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And the French person, he might step on a nail and say, aye!

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So this, of course, in your target language,

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this is something you have to observe and also internalize and it has to become part of you.

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Again, I'm with these three friends and I sit with them

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and let's say I serve them tea and I ask the American,

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would you like a biscuit with your tea?

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And if he answers in the affirmative, he might say, uh-huh.

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And I can ask the German,

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do you know what tea this is?

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And they'll say, mm-hmm.

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And then, yeah, and I ask the Frenchman, do you like this?

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And they'll say, mm.

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So you notice these differences,

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they really require active listening.

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So all of these three things that I told you,

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which is pronunciation and colloquial speech and adopting these cultural traits,

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they all require that you interact with natives as much as possible.

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Ideally, you should fully immerse yourself in the culture.

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Now, if you have the chance to live abroad for a while,

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that would be great, or maybe live among natives in your hometown,

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perhaps just have a romantic relationship,

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or even just spend time with co-workers.

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Romantic relationships, I could do a whole talk about that.

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That works really well for these things.

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But, yeah, so this will be different for everybody, of course.

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But even when you're not around natives,

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your learning must not stop.

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because what you can do,

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you can watch TV shows and films,

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you can mimic the characters,

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you can write down anything that you haven't heard of before, and practice that.

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I also want to encourage you to learn the lyrics of songs.

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Songs are really great, because they tell stories,

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and they not only help your pronunciation when you sing them,

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but they also, if they're emotional,

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they can anchor these expressions into your active vocabulary.

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And it's like speaking all day and really using these expressions unconsciously.

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It's a great way.

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So music, definitely.

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The other thing you need to move towards native speaker status is the right mindset

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and a belief that if you sound like a native,

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express yourself like a native,

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talk like a native, and act like a native,

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you will actually achieve a native-like level.

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So, if I could only leave you with one thing today,

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it would be work on your pronunciation,

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because pronunciation helps any stage of the learning process,

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even in the very beginning.

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It will speed up everything,

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and it also is the key to reaching a native speaker level,

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or almost native speaker status.

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So before I go, I'd like to tell you how I was able to overcome my fear of the Russian language.

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It was a very, very elegant solution.

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I married a Russian girl,

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and I now have little kids in my home that speak Russian to me every day.

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So I want to thank you,

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and before I go, I just want to wish you much of a great success Thank you,

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Conscious Studios of the idiomas.

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It's a pleasure to present you today.

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I want you to thank you for your support and your support.

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Thank you for your support.

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Good luck to you all and thank you.

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