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This new Mexico patrol cop is in the middle of a seemingly routine traffic stop.

He has no idea that the people he pulled over were just allegedly disposing of human remains in the mountains nearby.

As the president of the Albuquerque City Council publicly prays for her missing brother -in -law,

police are already deep into the investigation.

Every witness keeps pointing them towards more suspects

and every lead they uncover seems to expose another piece of

a multi -county cover -up carried out by someone determined to get away with murder.

An outcome that will prove very real as detectives will slowly come to realize.

We won't need recovery for a search rescue.

He's a good guy and you let him throw him on the side of the mountain like he's a piece of trash

Everything starts earlier this year at the cantina bar in the

small town of mountain air where locals often come to unwind after a long day of work

for the next few hours everything appears completely normal

but for these two friends what seems like an ordinary night out would end with one of them never making

it home

this is deputy shackle over torrance county sheriff's office albert pina is this the name with the guy

that you're reporting yeah

and he was last seen at the willard cantina okay my

one of my friends in mountain air her friends the bartender there

and she was talking to him

and the last time she said she'd seen him was about seven

or eight at the bar

and he was talking to a mexican gentleman there they didn't know who he was

that was the last time

he was seen with anybody do you have any idea who the hispanic male could have been uh well right

now i have my friend uh she thinks somebody might know who he is

or the girlfriend of that guy so she's trying to find

that out so recently on the line is frankie reporting

that his older brother 67 year old albert pena hasn't been seen

or heard from for several days

and to this torrance county officer the call feels all too familiar given the recent mysterious disappearances surrounding mountain air

just a few years ago a 28 year old man suddenly vanished

and still hasn't been found on top of

that mountain air even has unsettling ties to infamous serial killers

and a crime rate unusually high for a town of less than 1 000 people

but albert's disappearance wouldn't remain a small town mystery for long

as an unexpected political connection would soon pull the case into

a much bigger spotlight for now though the deputy has a much simpler task figure out where albert was last scene.

That leads him 15 miles to the Cantina Bar.

Once inside, he's greeted by Rebecca, the bartender working the night Albert disappeared,

and she's about to give investigators the first in a series of leads that would kickstart a weeks -long, high -stakes manhunt.

Do you know him from here or Mountaineer?

Mountaineer and from here.

Okay.

He was here the other night with a young man.

Yes.

Do you know who that is?

His name is Moses or something like that, Lopez.

How do you know him?

I know him through his girlfriend.

And who is his girlfriend?

Jayling.

Okay.

I've been by Jayling's house twice

and the door looks like it's been barricaded up a little bit

and the frame on the door where the window is is busted

and cracked like somebody's broken into it when I knocked on the door

that I can hear the chihuahuas on the inside and the door is loose enough that you could push it open.

okay that's abnormal it's very weird did it seem it's hard it's always hard to tell with the video

but were they getting along okay they were fine

they were perfectly fine all right it's just i've never seen him with albert before

when i talked to another friend of mine uh

and mentioned his name he was like if you did something to albert

and so everybody's got this weird feeling about this guy already

but this this is just albert's got a lot of nice stuff like his bikes and stuff.

I know, that's what I'm worried about.

Thanks to Rebecca, detectives not only have their first lead, Moises Lopez, and his girlfriend Jaylene,

but also a potential financial motive for why someone may have wanted to harm Albert.

After speaking with the bartender, the deputy returns to the station to run some background checks,

where he'll quickly discover just how much danger Albert might be in.

Moises Lopez is a convicted felon currently on parole with an active warrant already out for his arrest.

His record includes robbery and embezzlement, giving police more than enough legal grounds to take him into custody.

Within hours of this discovery, officers secure a warrant to search his house and rush over.

Leading the case is Detective Lieutenant Kent Ballard, a veteran investigator with more than 15 years of service under his belt,

and his intuition tells him this wouldn't be as easy as it seems.

Once Ballard and the other officers arrive, they draw their guns and prepare to move in.

Occupants of 410

North Corbin, this is the Torres County Sheriff's Office.

We have a search warrant for the residents.

Exit through the east side door with your hands up, open, and empty.

Sheriff's Office, if you're inside, make yourself know!

Hey, we're open.

Lawrence County Sheriff's Office, if you're inside, make yourself know!

Bro, I don't even know where to start, Serge.

Inside, neither Moises nor his girlfriend Jaylene are anywhere to be found.

While officers continue searching through the clutter, the bartender, Rebecca, arrives, wanting to check on the dogs left behind.

However, she's about to point out something strange that will double the number of suspects officers need to find.

Go out.

Go out to Rebecca.

Come on.

No, buddy, you gotta go outside.

You can't be in here.

No one's taking care of you.

This poor thing is probably not eight.

No, I'm sure of it.

Come here, baby.

Here, you're okay.

you're okay sweetie why would they leave those dogs man i'm telling you that's a piece of

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because dogs what what vehicle is missing none

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so how how did they get around how could they possibly have gotten around

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they walked did you see how it was all barricaded

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and stuff from the outside well and somebody's kicked

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that other door in oh wow

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but i can't is this the way the house always was always

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so it was always thrashed always

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so now i don't know like it's hard to tell whether something happened or missing or what?

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I have no idea.

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Okay.

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It's disgusting.

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I appreciate you coming.

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No problem.

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Rebecca just revealed an interesting detail.

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Neither suspect owns a vehicle, instead relying on getting rides from others.

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To Detective Ballard, this strongly suggests someone may be helping Moises evade police.

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But even then, investigators are yet to realize the uphill battle they're facing as they're about to encounter more suspects

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and slowly uncover one body dump after another.

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After clearing the house, Detective Ballard orders several officers to remain positioned outside while he tries calling the couple's phones,

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but each call goes straight to voicemail.

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He then heads back to the station where, to his surprise, one of them finally calls back,

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ready to mislead the detective and get him off their bags.

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Hello?

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Hello, is Jaylene there?

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Yes, yes it is.

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Hi ma 'am, it's

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Lieutenant Ballard with the Sheriff's Office.

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Thank you very much for calling back.

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No, no problem.

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I've been out of town, so I didn't know what the hell was going on.

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Yeah, let me explain what's going on and all.

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I'm working on a missing persons case involving an Albert Pena.

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Do you know Albert?

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yes i do okay when is the last time you saw albert maybe like three days before

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me walking by his house are you guys friendly

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or disappointed well um i know since i worked at the gas station

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because when you work at the gas station you know everybody and then he

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met my boyfriend and those two get along great you know like but um he brings us like two

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As detectives suspected, the couple is out of town.

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But what surprises Ballard is just how calm Jaylene seems about the entire situation.

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Even if she had nothing to do with Albert's disappearance, she's still traveling with a convicted felon who's quickly becoming the focus of the investigation location,

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but Detective Ballard needs to play it safe.

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Otherwise, he'll spook the couple and lose his only chance to pin down Moises' location.

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I was walking home from a store one day, and we were walking down the street, and he started talking to us,

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and that's how we met, you know?

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Yeah, we became friends after that.

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When is the last time you saw him?

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He's missing, and we're trying to locate him.

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Two, three days ago, I think.

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I'm not sure.

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We went to the bar, me and him, and then he said he was going to opposite you or go party or something.

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That's all he told me.

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We headed home, he dropped me off, and then he took off.

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And you said that you and Albert went to the bar?

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Where did you guys go?

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Like, that's kind of important to me.

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Who did he get into an argument with?

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Honestly, I don't know who these people were.

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Like I said, that's the first time I ever went there.

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And he left.

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Hopefully he's okay.

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Like, what?

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I don't understand what's going on.

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I don't either.

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His family's very concerned about him.

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After this strange call, Detective Ballard immediately looks into this unidentified man Albert allegedly got into an argument with.

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But when he reviews the CCTV, the footage tells a very different story.

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At 5 .45pm, Albert and Moises walk into the bar.

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For the next few hours, cameras capture the two laughing, drinking, and playing pool before they leave together in Albert's Chevrolet Trailblazer,

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with no argument ever taking place.

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To Ballard, the footage gives him reason to seriously question Moises' version of events.

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With night approaching, Ballard continues digging deeper into Moises and Jaylene.

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All the while, the case is less than 12 hours away from a discovery the town of Mountaineer isn't prepared for.

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The next morning, with the search for Albert reaching statewide attention, a patrolling officer just outside

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Mountain Air spots an abandoned SUV off a dirt road.

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Unbeknownst to this officer, he's about to stumble upon one of investigators' first solid clues to finding Albert.

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All right, there's nobody inside of it.

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There's a lot of trash dump out here.

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I'm not going to go any further.

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I drove through the weeds because there's good tire prints coming and going that do not match this vehicle.

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After examining the SUV, the officer confirms it's Albert's Chevrolet Trailblazer, The same vehicle he was last seen in,

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but so far, he finds nothing clearly suggesting foul play.

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The officer then relays this discovery to Detective Ballard, who makes his way to the scene, expecting it might provide a new lead.

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But once Ballard arrives at the scene, it wouldn't take long before he spots something that would leave him genuinely horrified.

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We're gonna have to check the vehicle good, because I think John checked the window.

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The seats leaned way back, I'm going to pop it.

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I can't see the back oh there's blood all over the a ton of it is all

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that dark that is I think it's all blood oh

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so here's the thing there wouldn't be blood outside the car unless they took him out of the car.

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Upon discovering a large pool of blood alongside a single shoe, Ballard realizes the dark direction this investigation is heading.

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Shortly afterward, Torrance County detectives process the car for fingerprints before towing it away for further analysis.

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But strangely, investigators' next major breakthrough won't come from the car at all.

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Instead, the case is about to take an unexpected detour more than 100 miles south, where another couple would soon be accused of something horrific.

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I'm freaking out.

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I don't know.

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There's tools I lent to one of my friends over the weekend.

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I don't know if I'm seeing things or not sure.

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I think there's blood on them.

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Can you please come check it out?

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I'm stressing like crazy.

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On the line is Ashley, claiming a couple had returned some tools with what appeared to be blood on them.

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Moments after the call, Otero County Dispatch sends an officer to speak with Ashley,

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who's already waiting outside with even more disturbing details about what she just discovered.

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The beginning.

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Okay, so I had a friend.

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Izzy, that's enough.

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So I had a friend.

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Well, it's their friend.

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I had one of my sister's friends.

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Okay and she had gotten sober so we were letting her come up and my sister drank so they were sleeping

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and drinking in the uh shop most of the time anyways

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so yesterday out of random

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and this isn't the first time the first time she pulled up

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and she was all twacked out

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and they were like we're gonna sit in your driveway

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and at 12 o 'clock in the middle of the night okay

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and we're like that's not cool anyways we don't do

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that up here so then she comes back or she comes yesterday

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and she's like hey can i borrow some tools

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and she's like this like you could tell like her eyes are all big

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and stuff so

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and who's this friend katie landrum katie c k a t h y k a b y okay

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i need your information for katie chainsaw is that blood so there there and there's one more

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it's freaking us out we're freaked out so yeah it is blood

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and i was thinking about the tools that they were trying to take

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and they were trying to get shoveled

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and i'm like dude that's crazy to me it's crazy

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i mean it's yeah you guys are saying it's for wood

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i mean why would you guys need a shovel for wood

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i mean i would yeah i mean someone someone could have got hurt someone could cut himself

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but the shovel and the axe i mean the shovel i don't see why you need a shovel for wood

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after seeing it for himself the deputy calls in a forensic team to seize the tools

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and send them to a lab while he

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and other otero county detectives begin looking into the couple who

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borrowed them by now two couples in two different counties are

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on investigators radar with both departments still oblivious to just how closely their cases are connected

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the next morning still in otero county the deputy who took

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ashley's statement follows up on her lead using the workplace information she provided to track katie

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and manual to the dog shelter where they work as the deputy waits for the couple to emerge

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this seemingly isolated lead is about to open the door to an entirely different case how are you doing good

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i'm deputy baskin hotel can't share his office

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i'm looking for katie katie okay can i ask you some few questions all right

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if you want to be him present or you want him to be okay

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so some questions were brought up since you did borrow tools from ashley you borrow a dolly an axe

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and a handsaw tool yeah okay so the christians I brought up that there were blood on a dolly.

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Can you explain that to me?

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Yeah.

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One of us got caught working.

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Okay.

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Who got caught working?

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One of our friends.

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One of your friends.

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And where were you guys at?

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If you don't mind me asking.

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When it's all. Are you Manuel Lopez?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So I just speak with her yesterday and she doesn't want to trust me from their property also.

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Okay.

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I'm just letting you guys know verbally

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that she doesn't want you there on the property

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and I will speak with her see

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if I could see where the hacksaw tool was at is

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that well just the question the concerns are is

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that uh they were but on the dolly she was concerned

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because of that okay all right well i appreciate you for talking to me

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and speaking with me guys all right i wish

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you would have spoke to me it's crazy my best of my whole life

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well i i'm not sure what's going on with that i'm just here to do my job okay and investigate

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all right miss katie all right mr lopez yes sir all right well you guys have a safe day okay

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Knowing just how much blood was on those tools, the deputy finds Katie's explanation about a minor accident difficult to believe.

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So he calls Ashley back, who puts him in contact with the two people who knew Katie better than anyone, her father and daughter.

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That afternoon, the deputy arranges to meet with them.

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But once he arrives, Katie's daughter is about to reveal something so disturbing that it would change the trajectory of her mother's life forever.

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How you doing, Isabella?

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I'm Deputy Velazquez.

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So I'm here because I was told by Megan, you might know where your mom's been at and where she's been hanging out.

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Because they told me that she was up in a mountain somewhere, cutting wood.

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Me trying to figure out what exact location she was at or a rough estimate where she was at.

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I would tell you, but I really don't

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because they like their phone likes to turn their server off or whatever

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so on live 360 like i can't

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i can show you it won't let me look at it it says their phone's off

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or like their service is off i don't even know why she's cutting wood

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i've never seen her cut yeah they don't they don't have a fireplace yeah they don't have a fireplace

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there's a big one they live in a trailer outside of that house because it says yesterday

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but it also says their network no network or phone off

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so i mean we just try to figure out was your mom was at

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because she did borrow some tools

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and the tools did have blood on it oh it was a dolly what manual one uh lopez yeah

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and that's her husband yeah that's not her friend oh

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that's the husband yeah she's married yeah they're fighting

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it out 24 7 i don't know what the hell they do okay i'd watch out for him

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if i'm gonna be thrilled i'd watch out for him

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i'm thinking yeah i'm with you i'm thinking like okay they're cutting wood because they

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Because it's getting colder now, right?

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But now you guys are saying that you don't have that.

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I don't even have nothing to burn through that.

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I say watch out for them lying because she loves the lie.

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She thinks she's the best liar in the world.

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And I'll take your word because that's your mama.

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You know her more than anybody else.

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Okay.

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Instead of defending Katie, her own father and daughter describe both her and Manuel as dishonest.

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With this in mind, the deputy wraps up the interview and heads back to the station, now even more suspicious of Katie's story.

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Meanwhile, just as detectives over in Torrance County begin running out of leads,

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they have no idea that a crucial piece of the mystery is hidden in an underground bunker just a few miles away, waiting to be found.

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As the days pass, Albert's disappearance begins drawing more attention across New Mexico.

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And with no end in sight, the president of the Albuquerque City Council, Albert's sister -in -law, decides to make a public plea,

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one that would finally push the case forward.

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If everybody can just do me a great favor, in a moment of silence, please bow your head.

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My husband's brother is missing.

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He's been missing since the 30th, and we don't know, so some of you may have received an Amber Alert,

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but if you just please say a quick prayer for his safe return

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while clarissa's speech draws an overwhelming wave of support from the community detectives finally obtain albert's cell phone records

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and for the first time investigators have a shot at retracing albert's exact movements on the night he disappeared

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after leaving the cantina bar on december 30th albert's phone travels to none other then Moises and Jaylene's house.

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From there, it eventually ends up near the dirt road where Albert's car was found.

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But interestingly, for several hours in between, the phone pings at a nearby abandoned property investigators have yet to search.

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With this new lead, officers drive to the property to investigate, where something disturbing is sitting undiscovered beneath the ground.

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Sheriff's office!

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Torrance County Sheriff's Office

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if you're in here make yourself known I have a short room right

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there to the right in the mirror okay okay I'm gonna check just to make sure I didn't clear the hallway.

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Yeah.

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I don't think it's been here.

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No. Well,

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I guess now all

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we can do follow up with the air pressure

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you can see

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here under

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the dirt on top there there and then

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there's some splatter there and then when you look in here all along the concrete it drips going to the bottom.

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It doesn't look right to me.

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That definitely looks like a blood drip, but it's been there a long time.

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I mean, he's been missing since the 30th.

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As officers investigate the bunker, they can see signs suggesting Albert was kept here for some time.

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But whatever happened, police appear to have arrived too late.

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Albert is gone, Seemingly moved somewhere else before officers ever reached the property

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Still, investigators swab the area and send everything they find to the lab

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Hoping whatever happened here might finally point them in the right direction

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And while Ballard and his team secure the scene

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They have no idea the effort to conceal what happened to Albert Has already stretched nearly 150 miles south

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Where someone is carrying out a cover -up operation of their own

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As night falls over the Sacramento mountains, someone is preparing to move Albert to another dump site.

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After removing Albert's body from the bunker, he drives deep into the mountains, eventually reaching a remote stretch of West Side Road,

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where Albert is left somewhere down the hillside.

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A few hours into the night, an Otero County patrol officer working his shifts, spots a car with what appears to be a damaged tag light.

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He pulls it over, expecting nothing more than a routine traffic stop.

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No, no, don't go down there.

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All right, open the door.

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Hi, what's up, man?

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What's up?

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Got your license on you, ma 'am?

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Okay.

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That's all right.

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You got your license on you, man?

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How's y 'all's night going?

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Good.

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Where are y 'all heading? try your luck all right good luck

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it's a joke right that's what everybody says this your vehicle do you have insurance

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and registration yes oh grab it out of there

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if you don't mind for me sir how you doing you guys got IDs huh what not

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on you what about you sounds good

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so the reason I'm stopping you you failed to maintaining the lane of travel and then

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which basically means your tires left the went over the lines no big deal

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i'm not gonna write you a ticket

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and then your tag light looks like it has been like ripped out

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or something okay okay yeah so the the little light bulbs

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that illuminate your license plate that's another reason i'm stopping you but okay

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so like i said i'm not in the business of writing tickets i just want to make sure nobody's drinking

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and driving up here which obviously you're not

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so just let me do what i got to do and then we'll get you all out of here okay all right

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Tell your buddy to unlock this door

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Open it What's your name boss?

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Jesus You don't got no ID?

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No sir You don't carry an ID?

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No I do but we left it at home

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You left it at home?

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How are you supposed to win a jackpot without an ID?

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I don't know.

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Huh?

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We didn't go nowhere.

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What?

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We didn't go nowhere.

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She just said y 'all going to the casino.

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They did.

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Oh, we didn't go.

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Huh?

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They did.

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We didn't go.

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The casino's over this way.

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Y 'all ain't even gone that way yet.

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I know, but I didn't go to the casino.

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I knew that because you haven't got to it yet.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Come on out.

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You ain't making no sense, dude.

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What?

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Get out.

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I can be cool, but don't push it.

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Alright?

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If I tell you do something, that means do it.

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Get out. Do you understand me?

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir.

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Alright.

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Now I'm going to give you another chance

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because this is the third time I'm telling you to get out of the car.

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Get out.

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I'm down, sir.

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I'm going.

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You ain't listening.

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You keep looking back.

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Willow Get up!

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Put your hands behind your back or you're going to get it again.

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Put your hands behind your back!

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Put your hands behind your back!

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Behind your back!

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With the man now in handcuffs,

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the officer still has no idea he's just arrested a wanted fugitive and the prime suspect in Albert's disappearance, Moises Lopez.

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Meanwhile, more officers arrive at the scene with everyone sensing there's far more to this traffic stop than meets the eye.

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But despite their suspicions, they're about to overlook something that will allow three suspects to slip right through their hands.

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Get them out and start detaining them.

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She's been cool.

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Just detain her.

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Katie, Katie just get out.

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We're going to detain you for a minute.

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Just be cool.

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Stand right here.

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Katie, she's fine.

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She's fine.

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Backseat passengers you are more interested in.

495

Katie, stand right there, okay?

496

Just be cool.

497

That's what happens when you be a dumbass, dude.

498

Thanks for not driving off, Katie.

499

I would have made it way worse.

500

I'm dying!

501

You're not dying, it's Pepper's friend.

502

Yeah, yeah.

503

You saw it well enough to run down the road.

504

Help me!

505

Dude, you are acting like a child.

506

You gotta f* it.

507

Ain't nobody run for just a f* fight.

508

Something else going on here.

509

You probably got a warrant or something, right?

510

You do have a warrant?

511

Okay.

512

We'll work it out.

513

You probably got an ID in this wallet, too, don't you?

514

Well, that ain't you.

515

That's probably somebody's stuff.

516

Some of these items are his personal effects.

517

Do you know who this person is?

518

Is this his...

519

Okay, I'm just wondering.

520

Because that's definitely, obviously, not him, so...

521

Do you know who this guy is?

522

Okay.

523

At this moment, the deputy is holding Albert Pena's identification.

524

However, everyone in the group denies knowing who he is.

525

Officers then quickly piece together the group's relationships.

526

Jaylene is Moises' girlfriend, Manuel is his brother, and Katie is Manuel's wife.

527

Yet with only Moises wanted on an active warrant, deputies decide to release the other three.

528

After being tased and left bleeding, he's transported to a nearby hospital before eventually being taken to the Lincoln County Detention Center.

529

That night, Detective Ballard receives word of the traffic stop and begins putting the pieces together.

530

Katie and Manuel had been traveling beside Moises, and he suspects that they were the ones who helped him and Jaylene evade police days earlier.

531

But by the time Ballard realizes how important the other three people in that car may be, they're already gone.

532

The next morning, with no idea where Jaylene could be, Albuquerque police issue a bolo for her arrest.

533

While some deputies begin searching for her, others return to the dog shelter where Katie and Manuel work.

534

The night before, Katie had the chance to speed off and potentially help Moises escape, but chose not to.

535

To detectives, if anyone is going to turn on moises it's likely to be her

536

but getting katie to talk would be easier said than done

537

how are you doing katie can i step through please yes ma 'am absolutely

538

i'm gonna have you go right over here to this step again okay sir

539

we're not taking you guys away we just got to talk about some stuff okay all right katie

540

if you remember me i'm deputy velasquez hotel can share the office i came here last night to speak

541

so i'm here to clarify some things okay

542

so last time we spoke you said you did admit there was blood on

543

that belly correct yeah

544

and you say it was one of your friends correct can you tell me who's what friend well

545

i was with my friend jaylene

546

and she had brought someone with her we went to picture up for you does also

547

he said his name is boots

548

so i guess yeah who did y 'all pick up uh jaylene my brother

549

and some other guy i don't know some other guy comes out boots calls himself boots okay

550

and your brother was with you yeah

551

so who cut who cut their hand uh they did the boots

552

he cut himself boots oh

553

you don't know his real name though he lives in ria doso i don't know that's where i think about

554

that okay okay so you guys had a hacksaw yeah okay

555

and we didn't even use that okay and then there was a shovel

556

a shovel yeah ask for a shovel yeah

557

you guys asked for a shovel an axe would you be

558

able to would you be able to uh show me take

559

us where you guys cut wood yeah like the exact spot yeah okay

560

um it kind of pinpoint where it was yeah okay to officer surprise the couple hadn't left the county

561

and katie even appears to be on the verge of revealing the truth suspecting

562

she may be more willing to talk away from manual deputies ask her to ride with them

563

and lead the way to the mountains

564

But detectives haven't forgotten Katie's own daughter, describing her as the best liar in the world.

565

And in fact, Katie isn't taking these officers where they think she is. is he local?

566

He's not local.

567

He's not local?

568

Okay. But...

569

Go ahead.

570

He was freaking out.

571

Okay.

572

And he took us on a drive.

573

Okay.

574

Where did he take you on a drive? To Cloudcroft.

575

Okay. For what?

576

Because he told us this is where he put him. In Cloudcroft.

577

Okay.

578

So we need to go to Cloudcroft.

579

Well, I don't know if you want to see this spot first where we were at.

580

Um, yep.

581

Yes, ma 'am.

582

That's exactly what we're going to do.

583

You're doing really good, Katie.

584

I don't want nothing to do with this.

585

I was supposed to do it.

586

I know, Katie.

587

I was doing so good.

588

I know.

589

I didn't want to lie to you, but I don't want my husband to see it.

590

I know.

591

And do you know what I...

592

I hope you don't feel I was being rude to you, but do you know what I meant by like,

593

when we can see something's not right?

594

Yeah, I wanted you to see something.

595

Was it right because I wanted you to take me somewhere else?

596

I got you.

597

I got you.

598

Did you actually see a body in Clubground?

599

I didn't see it, but we drove up there and he said, this is where I put him.

600

We all just drove past Lowe and we just kept going.

601

Okay. In an unexpected turn,

602

Katie's story has completely flipped as she now claims Moises roped both her and Manuel into helping dispose of a body.

603

Katie continues retracing the group's movements, leading officers 15 miles into the Sacramento mountains, and they would soon realize

604

Boots wasn't a name she and Manuel had simply made up, but was referring to someone detectives were all too familiar with.

605

just like paint the picture for me okay so you guys are all hanging out there

606

moises and boots were they fighting no i don't know we're all just hanging out here

607

and everybody just walked around

608

and they just kind of walked up together did he bring

609

the dolly with him did he bring any of the did

610

he bring an axe with him no did he go up

611

that way into the left up that way into the right

612

when he went back up at the dolly he had to take

613

it i remember he took it over both those branches right there

614

when they went up there katie did you hear like a scream

615

or anything or a struggle nothing okay i'm sorry say it again his brother told us he shot him

616

but we never heard a gun shot

617

and he didn't have a gun on him so okay we know okay

618

so i don't know if he's acting crazy

619

so moises said there wasn't moises said he shot him yeah

620

and i was wondering about that but you never saw a gun no

621

and i never saw okay but i never saw one blood

622

and i figured okay after getting back into the car katie

623

leads detectives towards a remote cliffside where she claims the group moved to the body next

624

and after almost two weeks of searching detectives are moments away from confirming the outcome everyone had been

625

dreading don't jump down there there's probably easier way

626

You said it's a black trash bag?

627

Yeah.

628

Right here.

629

Okay.

630

Yeah.

631

I'm on it.

632

Okay.

633

Coming to you.

634

Oh, I see.

635

We won't need a recovery or a search and rescue.

636

Just probably fire with a backboard and scraps.

637

Because there's that trail out, you can go like this right here.

638

Yeah us.

639

Tragically, investigators' worst fears are confirmed as Albert's body is found with a clear gunshot wound to the head.

640

His body is transported for an autopsy, while Katie and Manuel are taken to the Otero County Sheriff's Office for questioning.

641

Investigators relay the news to Detective Ballard, who immediately drives to the station, ready to interview the couple.

642

As far as Ballard knows, they could have been just as involved in Albert's murder as Moises, And after speaking with Katie's own daughter,

643

her cooperation may have been nothing more than an act.

644

But as Ballard walks in, Katie is about to surprise him by suggesting Albert's murder may involve far more people than investigators realized.

645

Right now, you're not under arrest, but you are being detained.

646

You've been cooperative.

647

Everybody says that, you know, you've been very good, and I appreciate that.

648

Me and my husband, I was about to do this tattoo with my name on his hand.

649

we got a call from his brother

650

so his brother is freaking out um they speak in spanish a lot

651

so i don't know too much but i know

652

when our phone has withdrawal he said he's said he's in trouble he just needs help

653

and he's just to go pick him up he's in redoso we go from redoso to mountain air

654

when we get there then his girlfriend is with the two daily

655

they take us to she says it's her property pull up

656

there's this little they call it a pomp house okay um they said we didn't know what's going on

657

and it was two other people there i don't know who they were

658

but they he's like well and then he starts telling me oh i killed someone

659

and well what i'm like what the you know

660

and i guess they thought a car was coming

661

so everybody just started running and they grabbed the body

662

and threw it in the back of my car

663

and the laser yeah and i'm like what the like you know that's my car and what the f* is going on,

664

you know, we just got thrown and everything just got thrown on us real quick and so then everybody's like, well, go, go, go, go,

665

go, so everybody's panicking and freaking out and we just take off driving.

666

Not only does Katie claim she saw Albert's body, but she adds that two other mysterious men were also at the scene,

667

a detail that, if confirmed, would widen the scope of both the homicide and the cover -up even further.

668

As Katie would go on to explain, they repeatedly loaded Albert's body into her car,

669

moving him from one remote dump site to another as Moises grew increasingly paranoid the police were closing in.

670

With Katie's statements on the record, she is arrested and placed in custody while detectives move on to talk with her husband, Manuel.

671

After doing some digging, Ballard had uncovered Manuel's years -long effort to get sober and turn his life around,

672

only for Moises to allegedly keep pulling him back into trouble.

673

With that in mind, Ballard is about to test just how far Manuel's loyalty to his younger brother really goes.

674

I'm doing so good, me and my wife and like...

675

I believe it.

676

Don't derail yourself.

677

Because it fucks everything up.

678

Tell me what happened.

679

Did he say he killed somebody?

680

Did he say why?

681

No. And he's too high to even talk, so...

682

What did you think he was going to do with the tools when he said he killed the man?

683

Dismember the body?

684

I don't mind the body.

685

But I mean, okay, maybe not.

686

I wouldn't have the stomach to do it, but he didn't ask for a bag.

687

He didn't ask for a blanket so I can wrap this man up.

688

He asked you for tools that could be used to dismember a human body.

689

So do you think he would have it in him to do it?

690

I guess at the state of mind, he was in poverty.

691

I don't know what your brother's going to do.

692

If your brother comes out with it and is straight, it could potentially change things.

693

I'm more concerned personally, I'm more concerned with what happened to this poor man.

694

This is an elderly guy.

695

He didn't do anything to your brother.

696

I was really curious as to what the story would have been.

697

This guy's in his 70s, almost 80s.

698

He basically took your brother in and was trying to befriend him.

699

After Detective Ballard successfully turns Manuel against his own brother, he gains yet another account, pointing to Moises as the main culprit.

700

But there's still one critical suspect missing, and the group's fate now rests entirely on what Moises decides to say next.

701

Hours later, before Ballard can make the drive to the Lincoln County Detention Center where Moises is being held, the bolo on Jaylene finally pays off.

702

Investigators receive a tip that she's staying at a trailer park in Alamo Gordo, just a short distance from where Albert's body was found.

703

Now, in the dead of night, officers close in, hoping they're finally about to catch Jaylene before she even realizes they're coming.

704

move move get back up sheriff's office sheriff's office area

705

yep going right going right big ass dog going left going left

706

yeah right now you are being placed under arrest for an active warrants for an incidence

707

that occurred in torrens county here's the thing i've been doing this for a long

708

For a long time, I'm not the case agent on this.

709

Somebody else is going to likely want to talk to you in a little while.

710

You know exactly what I'm talking about when I say Bailey Canyon.

711

You know exactly what I'm talking about when I say

712

West Side Road.

713

You know exactly what this is about.

714

We know exactly what this is about.

715

So you're going to give yourself one opportunity to be honest with you.

716

With Jaylene finally in handcuffs, officers transport her to the Otero County Sheriff's Office, where Katie and Manuel remain in custody.

717

Up to this point, Ballard's approach has worked remarkably well, successfully getting two suspects to implicate Moises.

718

But with Jaylene, that strategy is about to hit a wall.

719

And before this investigation is over, one suspect will eventually walk free.

720

I don't know if you remember me.

721

I'm Lieutenant Ballard with the Sheriff's Office.

722

This is Alex, the detective, try to get a hold of yourself and explain what's going on

723

and we're going to get to the bottom of this, okay?

724

Unless you want to be going to jail for a first degree murder charge, then you need to think,

725

don't play this game like you don't know what I'm talking about.

726

Listen to me, listen to me.

727

If you want to, I'll walk away right now and I promise you this isn't going to end well.

728

okay i'm not i'm not playing

729

this game with you you know exactly why we're here we've already talked to katie okay we have moises

730

and i've already talked to manual okay this is no joke we have albert okay

731

so the thing is

732

if you want to play this game like you don't know what's going on it'll save me time

733

and we'll just take you back to torrance

734

we we already know about the property off a bronco with the blood the footprints

735

you're gonna play this game with me i i dare you to stay with

736

that story you you you want to go to prison for this no

737

then stop with the bull i want my lawyer okay

738

i didn't do anything i didn't do anything you are going to that's perfectly fine

739

and actually that saves me a ton of time because

740

when we're in court you're going to regret at sticking with this story because you're going to take the ride for this.

741

I'm not telling you anything.

742

You want a lawyer?

743

We're going to take you back to Torrance.

744

We're going to go back to Torrance and you're going to take the ride for this.

745

Why am I taking the ride for this?

746

Because you're a liar.

747

Why am I a liar?

748

I don't know.

749

I don't know if it's because you're scared or it's genetic.

750

I'm really scared.

751

Okay, well now you're going to lie.

752

So basically now what's going to happen is I'm going to go into court.

753

I'm going to prove you're a liar.

754

No, because I'm not going to lie.

755

You're lying to me.

756

I'm lying to you.

757

You said you don't know what happened.

758

It's that simple, Jaylene.

759

It doesn't work that way.

760

You're lying.

761

No, I'm not.

762

And Albert's family deserve better than that.

763

Yes.

764

You should be, don't sit here and say that.

765

You should be ashamed of yourself.

766

He's a good guy

767

and you let him throw him on the side of the mountain like he's a piece of trash

768

you should be ashamed of yourself ridiculous he's a good man

769

but we'll just throw him here on the side of the mountain him right

770

unlike before detective ballard's aggressive approach completely backfires pushing jaylene to request an attorney

771

and bringing the interview to an abrupt end now that jaylene refuses to say another word,

772

their best chance of learning exactly what happened and identifying the mysterious suspects Katie mentioned rests with Moises.

773

With Jaylene's interview over, Ballard finally makes the 50 -mile drive to Lincoln County, where Moises is waiting in custody.

774

But what Moises doesn't know is

775

that Albert's credit cards found in his possession are far from the only concrete evidence against him.

776

Forensic reports have just come back from Albert's car, the bloody tools, and the bunker.

777

In theory, Moises should fold under this kind of pressure.

778

However, encounters with law enforcement are nothing new to Moises.

779

After years of dealing with the justice system, this won't be his first time sitting across from an investigator.

780

And after watching his latest arrest escalate from a traffic stop into a violent confrontation,

781

Moises has every reason to enter this interview guarded and unwilling to cooperate.

782

By the time Moises walks in, both men have been preparing for this standoff

783

and each believes he has what it takes to outsmart the other mr lopez

784

i'm uh i'm lieutenant ballard with the torrance county sheriff's department i spoke with you on saturday okay

785

and this is my partner alex um here's the deal

786

you've been around a long time i've been around a long time i'm not going to come in here

787

and treat you like you're stupid

788

and i'm not playing games with you um i know a lot more today than i did on saturday

789

when i spoke with you i'm going to cut right through all the i know that something bad happened

790

and that albert is not with us anymore okay i know

791

that for a fact okay i i'm i know

792

that you were there when it occurred

793

and i can prove it in court what i don't know

794

because i wasn't there physically is i don't know what happened you know what

795

that means i went home i don't know what I don't have enough of that, sir.

796

I don't know.

797

Moises, I can prove that that's not true, though.

798

I know why you're saying that.

799

I know why you're saying that.

800

And if we hadn't have found what we found in the last couple days, that probably would have been okay.

801

You had some items in your pocket when the police stopped you, okay?

802

There were some credit cards and some IDs.

803

Well, because he, that suit that I have, he gave it to me, and, like, it was cold. Which one?

804

The suit that I have, the Army suit.

805

Okay.

806

So, all that stuff was in.

807

I didn't, we were drunk, I didn't even know.

808

Why are your fingerprints in his blood in that vehicle that we found in the woods?

809

Bro, do you think we drove all the way down here to BS you?

810

I could have done another phone interview with you if that's all it was.

811

What do you think it looks like when you have a robbery charge that you were convicted for, right?

812

Well, it's funny because a man ended up dead and you have his property in your pockets.

813

Okay, okay.

814

then we'll just see how that goes what he's trying to explain is that

815

Just hear me out, just hear me out, just hear me out, just hear me out, just hear me out, just hear me out,

816