跟读练习: Emma Watson Reveals the Best Advice That Changed Her Life - 通过YouTube学习英语口语
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I know it's a bit hot,
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I know it's a bit hot,
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but I've got a couple of questions.
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Yeah, do it.
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I want to end on.
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We end on with every episode.
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Yes.
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These are your final five.
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Okay.
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They have to be answering one word to one sentence maximum,
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but I will probably ignore that rule, as I always do.
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Amazing.
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So question number one is,
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we ask these to everyone who's ever been on the show,
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what is the best advice you've ever heard or received?
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I'm going to cheat slightly, if you'll allow it.
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Yeah.
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I read Emergent Strategy by Adrienne Marie Brown.
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It was given to me as a gift by my friend Anne-Marie for my 30th birthday.
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And I think that being a good,
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pious, Protestant English girl, I really believed that if I worked hard enough
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and if I was kind of saintly enough that someone would see my good deeds and all of my hard work and,
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like, give me the sticker,
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you know, give me the star.
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And so a kind of martyrdom was part of my,
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sort of, I understood was important in my,
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and I think reading her book and reading about pleasure activism,
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which is sort of the idea that like,
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anything that you want to sustain,
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e.g. justice, e.g. you need it to be easy and you need it to be pleasurable in a way,
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because that's what's going to mean that you'll be able to do it for a long time.
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Part of my burnout was that I wasn't prioritizing pleasure
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and joy as kind of like underpinning for even some of the harder,
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more somber, cerebral things that I was doing.
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And I think that changed my life.
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And I think we also have a model,
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particularly within activism and lots of spaces,
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that like this kind of sole, individual, charismatic leader.
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And I like you, you know,
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my hero is always Martin Luther King and Gandhi,
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and you just saw this sort of like solitary person
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that was doing that and i think if i could go back and do anything differently it would be
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that when i embarked on some of the public activism
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that i did i wouldn't go in the way i did i would go in with what i have now
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which is not just like an activist community like i have friends who can give me feedback
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and who i can talk to and who i feel that i'm not doing the work alone,
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solo, however heroic that might look.
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Yeah, I guess heroism and martyrdom,
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the way that it was looked,
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maybe I just don't believe that's how we'll get the job done anymore.
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Anything good will get done.
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So I think that book and I think that idea,
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that revolutionized my approach.
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I love that.
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Yeah, that's a great answer.
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It's beautiful.
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I want to read that book now.
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Yeah, you should have her on the podcast.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Question number two, what is the worst advice you've ever heard or received?
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Oh, so much.
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How long have you got?
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God, mostly just like, I think a lot of stuff around toughen up,
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bottle it up, deal with that later.
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You know, just like subtle versions of like,
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well, maybe tell the truth,
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but just not all of it.
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Just maybe like, maybe just like tell like a little bit of it,
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but not like the whole thing, you know?
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Because like the truth is,
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the problem with like telling three quarters of the truth is that then you're sort of in this like constant
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peeling and unpeeling of yourself where you sort of like,
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you're sort of trying to do it,
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but you're not quite doing it.
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And I don't know, I think a lot of advice around that.
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Also, anyone that tells you not to do what you love,
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terrible advice
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doing what you love will lead you where you need to go even if you can't see it at the time yeah
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yeah terrible
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terrible beauty tips
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and advice I've been given around like I don't know just
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like oh god again like back to our previous conversation all the ridiculous things
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that you are encouraged to try and do as a woman like fake tan
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and and i mean it's hilarious i actually right now i i it might be like well covered up
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but i accidentally have a bottle of fake tan in my bathroom
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and in my jet lag state last night i thought i was putting moisturizer on
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but now i have like these like horrific uh fake tan marks on my legs and feet
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I guess I'm just thinking about just like, oh my God.
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And recently I was like,
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okay, I want to get my teeth whitened.
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And I looked like Ross from Friends when he'd had that awful fake tanning accident because they were just way too white.
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And then I had to spend,
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go back for two other visits to get the dentist to put my teeth back to my normal teeth.
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So I guess I was just laughing,
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thinking about like worse advice is just like don't ever listen to beauty technicians
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or anyone advising you to do anything weird to your body
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face appearance just just don't don't listen don't don't take the bait just don't do it
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so good question number three how are you how are you now going to choose
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work projects or activism differently does the person that's asking me to do something with them
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can they confidently look at me and say that they care about me far more than what we're producing?
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And do I care about them that way?
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One of my favourite people I worked with,
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Steve Chbosky, I remember him leaving what was a very productive rehearsal or script meeting with Logan Lerman,
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Ezra Miller and I, and he was like,
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I need to go and be with my wife now.
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And we were like, I don't think I've ever heard.
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I mean, at that point,
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I certainly hadn't ever heard a director in my career say they needed to leave for a personal reason
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or for a personal relationship.
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But I worked far harder for Steve than I worked for any other director
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because I think I was able to give a far more vulnerable performance in
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that film because I felt that he really cared about me beyond the product of the film.
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And I want to work with people like that,
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for whom the process is as important as the outcome.
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And the people that are part of it are more important than whatever the outcome is.
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I think this is a really difficult thing that I see everywhere in the world right now,
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is that we treat objects and things like they're sacred.
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And we don't treat people like they're the sacred thing.
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And that switch, yeah, I think it causes a lot of pain.
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Emma, something that you told me when we were speaking on the phone was
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that you've been working with the young people on helping them with some of the challenges
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that you've faced in your own career, in your own life.
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Yeah.
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And I remember being so touched by that.
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I wanted to learn more and for you to share it because I just think it's really special.
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And I was sharing it with some of my team before you arrived and everyone was quite drawn to it.
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So...
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As a young person, as I basically shared over however long it's been that we've been speaking,
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I just really needed to be having more conversations with people my own age and people that were older than me.
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I feel like I tried to navigate so many problems on my own
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and I just didn't know who to really speak to.
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And I was speaking to such a narrow group of people about what I was trying to navigate
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and I think that working with young people and giving them each other and also the space,
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the reason, the excuses to talk about the things
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that we don't talk about or create spaces for has been the most gratifying,
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the most purposeful and of service I've felt in a long time
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because it turns out pretty often that a lot of the things that we're struggling with,
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other people are struggling with as well.
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And so in a way,
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going back around and trying to put out into the world a lot of the things
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that I knew I needed as a young person and didn't get,
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it's been the best, most,
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the best, most gratifying thing.
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And I feel really lucky to be in a position and in a place where I can say a no,
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Like I've kind of done this treacherous journey and I think
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that I might have some ideas about what might be needed for someone to come out the other side of that safely.
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So it feels good to be of use.
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Yeah, I love that.
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Fifth question we ask is to every guest who's ever been on the show.
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If you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow,
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what would it be?
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Oh, wow.
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One law.
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Okay, there's a couple of contenders.
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I'm gonna run you through one.
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One is gonna be- We'll vote on them.
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Okay, great.
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Perfect.
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One would be around the importance of telling the truth
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or like speaking your truth or just because I feel like
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so much chaos is caused by people not being sure whether or not they should or it's a good idea to or...
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I think that would be a pretty amazing one.
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Another contender, I mean, the obvious one is treat other people as you would like to be treated.
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That would obviously solve a lot of problems as well.
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I like that one you gave.
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The last one?
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Yeah, the first one.
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Oh, the first one.
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Yeah, the truth.
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Yeah.
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I guess it took me a long time and probably through doing my yoga teacher training,
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speaking truth with kindness is one of the first Niyamas, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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Very disappointed.
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I can't remember what the word is in… Not sattva?
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Maybe, yeah.
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Speaking the truth with kindness.
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Yeah, trying to think of the sattva.
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There's an amazing quote, which actually is given to me recently by a friend,
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which is like, the truth without kindness is brutality,
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and kindness without truth is manipulation.
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Say that again.
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Truth without kindness is brutality,
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and kindness without truth is manipulation.
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And so when I say,
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tell your truth, I don't mean going around like,
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just being awful to everyone.
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I mean, like, telling the microscopic truth and,
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like, having those, being willing to have a tolerance for those conversations.
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One of my favorite metaphors,
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I actually wrote about this recently for being in a relationship with anyone,
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is, like, you're in, it's,
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in a way, it's a dance, it's a fight.
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Like, I think about boxing in the sense of,
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like, who is going to go down to the mat with you and,
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like, not tap out?
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Because being honest about what's really going on is uncomfortable and it's risky.
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As we talked about earlier,
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you risk every time you tell the truth of maybe losing someone
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that you love because you don't know how they're going to respond to whatever your truth is.
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But I think to live that way creates the intimacy
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and connection that I think we long for and also sets people free in a way,
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you and them.
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Truth, yeah, truth with kindness.
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I think that's going to have to be my choice,
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my factor of deduction.
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Yeah, the Bhagavad Gita gives four principles for truth and kindness.
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The first is what you speak should be truthful.
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Yes.
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The second is it should be beneficial to all.
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The third is it shouldn't agitate the minds of others.
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Wow.
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And the fourth is it should be aligned with eternal wisdom and timeless wisdom.
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that's beautiful and perfect because yeah i think there's truths
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which are if they're not beneficial that do just agitate i think that's
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and it's not about not saying it it's the idea
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that you've thought so much about how you say it yes it's not
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that you've sanitized it
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because that's the modern day version the gita is not telling you to sanitize
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or be silent right it's telling you to filter your thought to make sure
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that the way you say it is digestible for everyone who's going to hear it.
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And therefore it actually has transformative power.
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It's not that it's not provocative or that it doesn't.
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It's just that you're not saying it in a way to trigger or get a reaction.
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You're saying it in a way that hits someone like an arrow of truth.
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It goes, I have to change because that person has been so mindful of how they spoke.
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Oh my God, that's incredible that's like that's everything i've just been trying to say about yeah
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if if we god if everyone was mindful enough about how they spoke their truth
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that it could just go straight to the heart
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oh yeah um rather than hit the ego along the way yeah that's why we can't talk
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because everything we say triggers someone's mind or their ego
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and then everything we say does it back and
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so now we're having a mind and ego debate
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which isn't the one that goes all the way to tap you know in your we're
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so focused on defending whatever the thing is that we feel
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that we need to defend
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that we just can't can't let no you can't hit the heart um
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so good yeah
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so good emma thank you for thank you the longest recorded
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conversation in on purpose history we had to change the cards
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the cameras we had to like and we haven't paused just
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so everyone knows just everyone knows me and emma have not moved
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so we didn't take a break there was no bathroom break
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no there was no break of whatever kind there was no
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coffee break we have sat in these seats for the entire duration
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that you watch this show or listen to it and
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so emma you have the uh you know to your competitive
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and winning spirit you have the uh award for longest ever
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podcast recording i i i don't know whether to be mortified
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or like seriously embarrassed or uh
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or like think feel like this is some kind of victory
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of some kind i guess you sat here for like
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and not moved for more than three hours really yeah surely
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it's amazing um that's amazing well thank you for thank you so much this has been such an amazing conversation
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在本课中，学习者将通过观看艾瑪·沃森（Emma Watson）的访谈视频来练习英语口语。这段访谈探讨了改变艾瑪生活的建议，特别是如何平衡工作与快乐，以及在行动主义中建立支持网络的重要性。通过跟随视频中的对话，您将提高理解能力及口语表达，增强用英语沟通的信心。
关键词汇与短语
- 建议 (advice) - 给予他人的指导或推荐。
- 快乐激进主义 (pleasure activism) - 强调在追求重要目标时，乐趣和快乐是必要的。
- 孤独英雄 (solitary hero) - 独自承担责任或领导角色的人。
- 反馈 (feedback) - 针对某种行为或表现的意见或建议。
- 优先考虑 (prioritize) - 将某事物放在更高的位置，给予更多重视。
- 疲惫 (burnout) - 对工作感到严重疲惫和失去兴趣的状态。
- 行动主义 (activism) - 为实现社会或政治变革而采取的积极行动。
练习建议
在观看视频时，尝试 shadow speak，也称为 英语影子跟读。选择一小段，每当艾瑪讲话时，暂停视频并尽量模仿她的语调和节奏。通过这样的练习，您不仅可以改善发音，还能学习如何在不同的上下文中使用关键短语。
建议您在播放速度较慢的情况下进行练习，这样能更好地跟上她的表达方式。除此之外，可以将某些段落反复播放，直到您能够顺畅地复述。尤其注意她在提到难题与解决方案时的情感语调，以及如何通过轻松与乐趣来阐述观点。这些技巧能够有效提升您的口语流利度和自信心。
通过跟随艾瑪的对话，您将能够有效地运用所学的词汇与短语，从而在实际交流中游刃有余。将您的学习旅程与 shadow speech 结合，您将会发现英语学习的乐趣和效果。
什么是跟读法？
跟读法 (Shadowing) 是一种有科学依据的语言学习技巧，最初开发用于专业口译员的培训，并由多语言者Alexander Arguelles博士普及。这个方法简单而强大：您在听英语母语原声的同时立即大声重复——就像是一个延迟1-2秒紧跟说话者的影子。与被动听力或语法练习不同，跟读法强迫您的大脑和口腔肌肉同时处理并模仿真实的讲话模式。研究表明它能显着提高发音准确性，语调，节奏，连读，听力理解和口语流利度——使其成为雅思口语备考和真实英语交流最有效的方法之一。