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You're gonna figure it out in your dreams.

Good night, Owen Thiel.

I think we just have to start this episode with a scream.

No, just me, because I have the most special guest ever.

I have manifested this.

First of all, this guest is on the wall.

I don't know if we've ever had a guest in here that's been on the wall.

Was I always there?

Yes, love, since the beginning.

okay we have seriously a dear friend of mine

but also like i'm such a fan of this woman she

is an entrepreneur she's a genius she's hilarious i fell in love with her

when i first met her we have hayley bieber on the

podcast what what why are you here oh oh sorry i

thought you went to i thought you went to give me

a gorgeous well i'm kind of straight recently i've been dapping people up I'm not kidding.

Yo, what's up?

Me with Justin?

Yo, what's up?

Can I do that to him? Of course.

What will he do?

He would love that.

I'm going to do it to him. Do that.

Next time you see him.

He's going to be like, what the hell is this?

He's going to be like, great to see you, Owen.

He's so lovely.

I didn't know he knew who I was.

What do you mean he loves you?

I know.

And we became very close, ultimately.

Okay.

So I have a story.

Okay.

So let's get into the stories because I know

which one you're about okay i have a story so hayley invited me to justin's listening party for swag great night

cool invite to get um very cool you guys are jealous

um it was a great night gorgeous setting yeah i walk

in a warehouse a golf there was a literally golf tournament

we were with tiger woods was there no i'm joking

but it was gorgeous it was gorgeous it was great um really fun

and so i was wearing a balenciaga jacket whoa okay humble brag a rarity a rarity for me um

so balenciaga jacket

and it was actually loaned to me my boyfriend's a stylist everyone knows this on the podcast

but for those who don't

because you're gonna bring in some more people i have four

listeners now maybe i'll get eight with you yay um

so okay so jared lent me this jacket and i was really hot

so i decided to take it off and hayley was so nice

and she said why don't you put it on the stage she's like it'll be safe there well it's

because there was a dj booth yes

and a little it was like a little section that had chairs

and couches on it

and i thought it would just be safe there was really nowhere else to put it

if you think about it right no there was no

and you were

so nice you were like all my stuff is there too

just put it there yeah i was like great okay

so suddenly the music starts i'm loving it i'm like all

of a sudden justin is jumping with all of his the

people he made the album with on the stage he's loving it with the with the dj booth he's like

and all of a sudden i am watching my very expensive lent coat kind of fall off the chair

and into the center under people's feet of justin and all of his collaborators feet so now they're stomping on the jacket.

And that's not even his, by the way, that's not mine.

So I'm like, fuck.

And I'm looking at Haley and Haley's having the best night.

And I'm like, I can't go up to you and say, you have to go get this jacket.

I was like, I can't do it because you were loving the music dancing.

And I was like, I have to do this alone.

This is my mission.

So now I'm on stage with Justin and all of his collaborators pretending to have been there.

When I met, I was like, I'm singing daisies.

I'm literally like, I wrote this one.

You're like, remember when we were in the studio?

Literally, come to the studio, baby.

I literally do that.

And I'm trying to get the jacket.

Finally, I get it.

Actually, it's cool.

The jacket's cooler because it has a little distressed now.

Well, it's distressed.

I ended up buying the jacket.

Okay.

But let me tell you something.

They gave me a discount.

And I own the jacket now.

And it's the coolest jacket I could ever own.

And it has a cool story behind it.

And it has a really cool story.

It has some foot marks on it.

We could get those off.

Yeah, we could fix it.

Yeah.

Okay.

So Haley and I became friends.

I'm like looking into the camera as if this is a talk show.

Haley and I became friends like a few years ago.

She was instantly warm.

She she like you invited me to your house the first time I ever met you.

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You were like, come over.

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You were literally come to the studio, baby.

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Yeah.

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Wait, what?

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When did we meet?

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What was our first time together?

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We were talking about this the other day because I was like, how did we?

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Is this air on you too much?

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It looks gory.

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You look windswept.

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Is it giving like Victoria's Secret?

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It's fully giving Victoria's Secret.

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It looks amazing.

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Is it distracting?

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No, it's gory.

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I'm just like, oh my God.

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How about the BS fashion show?

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It feels divine.

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Okay, great.

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Okay, keep going.

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When did we meet?

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I honestly don't remember.

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Did we meet at Coachella?

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We did.

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Yeah, with Emma.

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Yeah. And Justine. And Justine.

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We met at Coachella.

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Billie Eilish's party.

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I just remember meeting you and we were like, loving you, loving you, loving you.

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And that was it.

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And then we've been friends ever since.

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So Haley and I, for some reason, Haley and I came up with this thing that was like loving you.

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I think I said it to you.

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I was like, loving you.

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And I was like, loving you.

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And then I was like, that's kind of our thing.

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And it stuck.

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It became our thing.

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Yeah.

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And then all of a sudden, watching the Met interviews with Emma from my bed, and Haley walks up to Emma and they both say, loving you.

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I'm like, I made it to the Met.

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I fully made it to that.

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I was so thrilled.

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Okay, that was the first time we met.

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And then we've been friends ever since.

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Yes.

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And then you had your sweet baby.

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And then I had my sweet baby.

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And we're still friends.

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And we're still friends. So that's our story.

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And who knew I could be friends with a mother.

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How is it to be a mom?

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It's so fun.

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I love being a mom.

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You do?

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I always knew I wanted to be a mom, though.

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Since I was like a little kid.

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Yeah, I was like, I just always envisioned myself having kids.

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I get it I don't think I want kids No, I do want kids

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But you know what's funny is like the older I've gotten And now that I have a kid I also,

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like I think any decision anyone makes About having them or not having them is totally Totally Do you want more?

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I think so Oh my god, you're gonna have like five fevers while running around Just a little like That's so cute I definitely do

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Because I know I want more than one But I'm not in a rush I'm an only child

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And do you wish you had siblings?

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Of course, every day.

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This turns into me interviewing you.

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Yeah.

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Any more questions?

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What are your biggest fears?

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Yeah.

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So thank you for asking.

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So it's been really tough.

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I'm not joking.

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Yeah, I always wanted.

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Yeah, of course.

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It was really hard being an only child.

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I mean, it was amazing.

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Justin was an only child too.

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So all the conversations we've ever had about that is that we want our son to have siblings.

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Yeah.

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I think it's really fun because your parents just spoil you with every bit of them.

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Yeah.

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But it's not fun because you don't have a little confidant and a little like buddy.

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Yeah.

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So like, you know.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Let's move on.

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So you were a Nepo baby.

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You are a Nepo baby.

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Yeah.

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Full blown one.

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Full blown.

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So isn't it crazy that you now have a Nepo baby?

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The whole Nepo conversation is really just a conversation about privilege.

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And I think having that dialogue with your kid is important.

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And I think, I think talking about it is important.

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And I think awareness is important.

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So I think it's just a conversation of awareness and understanding.

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Did you know you were going to be famous?

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No. You're so good at being famous.

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I know that's a crazy thing to say.

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Thanks.

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I feel really bad at it all the time.

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You're so good at it.

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That was a PR.

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That was perfect.

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It's very crazy.

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Okay, so what are you wearing, Road?

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Please.

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Sorry.

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I'm so sorry.

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So, Haley, let's talk about the beginning of this.

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When did you decide to make Road?

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2020 when the pandemic hit.

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I knew for a really long time I wanted to start my own brand

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and I was clear that I wanted it to be specifically in skincare and beauty.

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And then when you're like, I own a mirror, I should probably not look at my skin.

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It was mostly about how much of a skincare fanatic and fan I actually have been for my whole life personally.

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And I tell this story a lot to my mom and my grandma, both skincare and like beauty obsessed.

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And I feel like they really instilled that in me.

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So I just came from like a household and a culture of skin.

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Skin.

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Yeah.

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And obsessive about like moisturizing and hydration.

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Really?

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Since a young age?

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Since a super young age.

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My mom's from Brazil.

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And I also feel like...

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That's why you look like that.

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Because you've been moisturizing since like two.

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Since like birth, literally.

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I can't think of a time I ever like got out of the bath

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and my mom wasn't like slathering me head to toe.

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And that's, that's how I am now as a mom too.

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I'm like, you will go to bed like a glazed donut.

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There is no. I am so mad at my mom.

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My mom really fucked up.

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It's okay because now you can be a glazed donut.

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Oh, I am every day.

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Exactly.

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I literally like, I'm slugging because of you.

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Slugging, slathered, lathered, glazed donut.

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Slather and lather.

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Doesn't matter.

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Okay.

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So you be, okay.

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So in 2020, I was like, all right, I have the time now, the pandemic hit.

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I don't know how much time we're going to be spending inside.

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This isn't really my moment to kind of sit and write down every idea that I have, how I want it to be, what I want to do.

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I knew I wanted to call it Road.

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It's my middle name. Of course.

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It's my mom's middle name.

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It's a family name.

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So I was certain on that.

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And that was when I called my partners, Lauren and Michael.

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Geniuses.

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Who we love.

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We're upset.

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They're the best people in the world.

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And at the time I had known Raddy for years.

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Like we were friends already for years and he wasn't even married to Lauren yet.

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Now they're like married baby on the way, but they were just dating.

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And in my gut, for whatever reason, I was like, they're the ones that I think can help me like bring this to life.

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He had launched his production company and his business.

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So I was like, hey, I know you, you don't work in beauty or skincare, but you know, will you guys, this is my idea.

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This is what I want to do.

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Do you want to help me bring this to life?

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And what's crazy is that in five years, less than that, really?

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Yeah.

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I mean, we launched in 2022, but we started in 2020.

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In three years, you've made this?

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No, that's not normal.

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No, in five years, we made it because we started in 2020.

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Right.

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But Haley, that's your billion dollar company.

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Like, what is the behind the scenes?

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Like, are you working every day?

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Do you into an office i don't go into the office

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every day i also feel like the pandemic made it so

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that you don't have to work from anywhere anywhere in a lot of ways

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but what i do like going into the office for is to sit with the team

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and look at things in real life and discuss it in real life

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because i don't think

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that you can really do it over the phone yeah you can't make decisions the same way

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when you're not you know interfacing with people

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so i love going into the office i really do

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and it's really close to my house it's so easy for me

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but unlike this which it took her an hour and and have to get here.

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She's okay.

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She was like, I would do it for you any day.

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You know that I love her, but I'm always talking about something to do with the company every single day.

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Like I'm on text chains.

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I'm on calls every single day, just as a dummy, because I don't really know what it is.

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What is the Sephora thing?

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So obviously, I mean, it's now in Sephora, but explain the, the elf, explain, explain all of it.

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So Sephora is my retail partner.

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I launched Rode only online.

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So we were a direct consumer company only.

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And I know this because I bought it.

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And then we chose to go with Sephora as our brick and mortar, if you will.

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We've done our own IRL pop-ups, but we don't have any retail store.

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Will you ever?

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Maybe.

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You know, I am totally open to the idea of having one flagship somewhere for Rode, but I much prefer doing the pop-up experiences

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because I think it's more fun to go to something that isn't going to be there all the time.

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And then every time you do it, you get to change the concept.

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I feel like you're a little bit more stuck

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when you do a store where it has to kind of be one thing.

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And then also if you're launching new things, like if you're launching a blush, the pop-up can be about the blush.

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It's a lot more exciting, I think.

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And it's more fun.

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But with Sephora, yeah, they're our retail partner and we launched with them in September.

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It's only a month ago.

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And it's been amazing.

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They're such an amazing team and they're so, they're the best of the best.

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Like there isn't anybody I could have wished for to be a better partner.

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And their team is like so amazing and efficient and, you know, cares about what I want to do with the brand and how I want it to show up in Sephora.

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So I'm super happy.

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Isn't it crazy to walk into a Sephora and see your face everywhere?

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It's definitely surreal because as a kid, Sephora was the place that I always went to buy my makeup and skincare and things.

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So I think it continues to be like a pinch me thing.

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It's so crazy.

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I was walking through the mall the other day.

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Humble brag.

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I went to a mall.

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I was going to say, what were you at the mall for?

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I love the mall.

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Do you not like the mall?

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No, I love the mall.

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I just, I don't go very often.

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Have you ever worn a wig in public?

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No. Like I've never tried to go out in a disguise.

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I don't think it would work.

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It's not that I don't think I can go to the mall.

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What I was trying to say about the mall is I'll go anytime.

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We just have to plan it.

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Totally.

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How about that?

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Wait, let's plan it.

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That's what I meant to say.

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Yes, let's plan it.

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Let's plan it.

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It just takes planning.

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But also, I think it makes sense that you can't just pop into the Beverly Center.

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I think that makes sense to me as an outsider.

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And I think we would all agree.

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Given the fact that when I pulled up here today, Owen watched a drone fly over his house.

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You know.

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You guys, what is that?

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I don't know.

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Okay, well, let's talk about this famous story.

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Speaking of...

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This is the best story.

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Speaking of drones and paparazzi.

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So Haley and I were talking, we were- We were on the phone.

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On the phone and I was driving and Owen was on speaker in my car.

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All of a sudden, we're just having the best conversation.

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Let me give context.

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Let me give context.

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Cause I'm driving, I'm on the phone, two hands on the wheel on speakerphone.

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And this paparazzi gets in front of my car

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and is driving in front of me

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and then snapping photos like out the window and like in the rear view mirror of his car.

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And the only time I get really, really mad and really pissed off is when I feel like you're being dangerous

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and you're putting my life at risk and you're putting me in danger.

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So I got Jack wasn't in the car.

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I was by myself.

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Thankfully, I would have been way more upset if Jack was in the car.

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But I just am like, what is the purpose of getting in front of me

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and then taking photos while you're driving a car and I'm driving a car?

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I can't stand that shit.

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It's also like, what are you getting?

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I'm driving and you're driving.

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So how are you doing anything?

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but also you're just like what do they think you're doing

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i'm just on the phone with owen coming up with a

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road product in the car you're like showing yeah exactly you're

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like oh this is good yeah you're not getting anything

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so a paparazzi was being dangerous

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and all of a sudden i hear hayley go hi owen just wait one second

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and she goes what the fuck do you think you're doing you're being

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so dangerous you're putting my life at risk you're you're putting

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your life at risk like she's like i went off she

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went off i i waved him over to pull over

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and i was like hold on one second owen don't you ever fucking do some shit like

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that again do you understand like i went like i went i saw red i was

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so upset and then she gets back

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and i'm like hey sorry literally she goes hi sorry

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so wait where were we i go no we're not anywhere now love

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because i have chills i go i have chills to be

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in the room where it happens oh it goes oh my

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god i literally have full body chills i feel like i

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was just in 2000 literally literally i was in the 2000s

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also it was like you see those moments on tiktok right you know what i mean right

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but to be in the room where it happens

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i was in the car where it happens ultimately yeah i

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loved it i was i felt i felt famous i just don't want to be with like

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that i think there's boundaries to be had

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and i just obviously i was not having it

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that day i mean i cannot believe there was a drone

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outside of my little cup where i live my little apartment

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that's insane i mean it's great for me i'll be on

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people mag i'm also like what do you think i'm doing

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what do you think you're catching i'm visiting a lover wait literally i'm dead

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or you're like jumping on an album you're maybe you're featuring on the album i'm recording

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would you ever record no you would never like to be silly

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and for fun have you ever no but would you like

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if justin was like hop on this song no

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if he was like we're in the studio

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and let me just record you to be silly

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because we're being funny and we're making a song for ourselves i would do it

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that would be he's never asked me to do

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that love okay like hey we can do a tons of

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hypotheticals it hasn't happened yeah we could do hypotheticals he hasn't

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asked i'm done um okay just on the theme of paparazzi

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this crazy world what is what is the craziest headline you've ever read about yourself oh my gosh there's

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so many i think there was one that that i thought was funny

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because it was so stupid and so ridiculous this is the one

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that comes to the top of my mind a couple months

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ago it was like hayley is is doing management for her

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husband like i'm taking over to be his manager i I was like, what?

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There's no world in which that would ever.

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You have a full business to run of your own.

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But also that's my husband.

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Well, 100%.

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But also what do we think is going on here?

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One, that's your husband.

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Two, you have a full career in life.

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And so does he.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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I'm like, no, I thought that one was really funny.

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It was so ridiculous and far fetched.

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That's hilarious.

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I mean, so many times I've read that I'm pregnant when I'm not.

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And I mean, I read I was pregnant probably a hundred times before it was actually true.

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And then finally you're pregnant and no one reports on it.

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You're like, you guys.

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Because I hid it for six months.

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Because I was like, I don't want anyone to actually know until I'm ready.

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How was that hiding that?

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It was a little stressful because I didn't want to be caught before I was ready to say it.

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Totally.

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But I think I did a pretty good job.

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You did a great job.

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Up until right before I announced it, I felt like people like slowly were starting to catch on

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because I couldn't hide my belly anymore but I still got to announce it myself and have that moment.

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So I was grateful for that.

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I forget how you announced it.

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We did like a really sweet video.

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The video that shook the internet.

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The video.

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The video.

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The video of Jackie.

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I was in that.

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Can you imagine?

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I was in the background of that.

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Imagine.

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Owen was behind a tree.

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Yeah, of course.

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I was in that.

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I would love that.

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That'd be iconic.

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Maybe the next time.

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Haley and I, the first thing we like did together publicly was your show.

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Remember?

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Oh yeah, I was in my bathroom.

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She's actually being like, I'm being a vampire.

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if you want to join.

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And I was like, oh my God, I'll be a vampire too.

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Right.

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Do you remember what happened?

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I got these teeth that, let's put a little clip in here.

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I got these teeth that didn't fit.

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And I spoke like this entire episode.

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I had like these really like nice, like stick on fangs that just went on the teeth.

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And I literally had like, it was literally mean girls.

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Like I had like the mean girls, like gums, like, and I was like, literally she would ask me a question.

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I'd be like, we were like making smooth,

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milkshakes and like trying to eat them and i couldn't she was like falling out of his literally

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hailey was like i love yours yours is chunkier

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and i was like i can't try it

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or your milkshake i remember it yep i remember it well

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um okay go back let's go back let's go back let's go back to the road just

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because i have questions

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because i have all this this is my life ultimately just

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collecting i really what is this oh yeah the glazing milk obviously

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which by the way just won an award today yes it

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just won an award oh you guys won another award the oe award exciting

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and then we won another award which is the oh

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so what's next for road i think our focus right now is you know the sephora launch

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and expanding into different territories with the with the retail

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But I feel like my vision for the brand continues to be really strong.

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Like I know where I want it to go.

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I know how I want it to evolve.

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I think what's fun and exciting for me is that when I launched the brand, I was 24 turning 25.

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And now I'm 28 turning 29.

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And I feel like the brand is continuing to evolve with me and where I'm at and my age.

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And I want it to continue doing that.

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Totally.

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But I also feel like the products that we launched with are still the product, like everything we started with is still all of the things that are my favorites and that I go back to.

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But I feel like the way we're doing our storytelling and the products that we're bringing to life, even like our eye patches,

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the wearable things, like I think it's really exciting the direction

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that we continue to go in and the way that we're expanding it.

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And, you know, we're going to continue to expand upon the categories that we already have, like the way that we've done our blushes,

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like we'll expand a little bit in color and we'll expand always the most in skincare because at the core, it's a skincare brand and I don't ever want that to change.

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Totally.

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But yeah, I'm excited.

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So skincare wise.

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Yeah.

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Just tell me, you don't have to tell pretend like we're not doing a podcast.

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Okay.

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What, what do you do?

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So no, but like be real.

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Why would I lie?

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Like I tell you everything.

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Haley is, I will say this.

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Haley is so honest, most honest person, honest to a, to a fault.

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You are so honest and that's it.

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Keep going.

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I'm just really diligent with my skincare, but there are treatments that I really do like.

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So like I love PRP, which is when they take your blood from your arms and they spin it.

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Yeah.

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So I love doing PRP with microneedling.

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I've talked about that a lot.

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I've done PRF, which is they take your blood, but they, it's called easy gel.

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And basically they heat it and then they cool it and it kind of like makes your blood like a gel consistency.

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And then they put it on your face and then you inject it.

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So I've done that, which I love inject like all over.

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Like I've injected my smile lines.

532

I've injected it under my eyes, your blood, but it's your own blood.

533

And that's the thing is I like to do things that I can trust is from your own body.

534

Totally.

535

And I'm just consistent with things like that.

536

Like I do that a couple of times a year.

537

Um, I've done like light little lasers before.

538

So that's it.

539

I don't have any Botox except for in my jaw for TMJ.

540

But I have no Botox in my face.

541

I made a commitment to myself that I wasn't going to do any Botox until I was in my 30s.

542

When I get there, I'll see if I even want to do it.

543

But like my mom has no Botox.

544

My mom does nothing to her skin and she looks like insane.

545

I did Botox at 18.

546

What?

547

Why?

548

I turned 18 and I go, fuck it.

549

Happy birthday.

550

And I got Botox.

551

But because you thought you had wrinkles or?

552

And so let me tell you.

553

So I had no wrinkles and then, and it started to actually pull my face in such a way.

554

Dude, 18 is like insane to get Botox.

555

My mom was like, what the hell?

556

Oh my gosh.

557

I look like Jigsaw.

558

So then did you stop for a second?

559

No, now I've never done it again.

560

But the shape of my face changed, to be honest.

561

Yeah.

562

Anyways, yeah.

563

So you go home and actually wash your face.

564

You're diligent to buy your skin.

565

I am insanely diligent.

566

I could be wasted to the point of like seeing double and still will.

567

No, after that Coachella night that we were drinking and having fun, you didn't go home and wash your face.

568

I passed out.

569

I passed out in the car.

570

I would never pass out with makeup on, no matter how drunk I was.

571

I've been in a hotel room.

572

You've been in a hotel?

573

For reasons because I was like sleeping over there and like didn't have my things.

574

Totally.

575

And like gone into the bathroom

576

and like as much as I could get things off with like warm water and like anything that I could.

577

Would you use a bar of soap?

578

No, not on my face.

579

Okay, what's one thing you would take to a desert island?

580

I would take our glazing milk.

581

Oh, of anything or my own products?

582

Of anything, but maybe you would take your glazing milk.

583

Were you talking about skincare or like necessities for life?

584

Well, I more meant necessities for life of kind of a weird segue to just kind of throw that at you.

585

I'm thinking we're talking about- No, you're in the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.

586

I'm so excited for you to watch this clip and be like, we should have moved to the- No, it's gorgeous.

587

It's Beyonce.

588

My hair went down my throat, but it's fine.

589

No, of course.

590

I thought we were talking about skincare because we were talking about washing our face.

591

So if I was going to take one of my products to a desert island, it would be the glazing milk.

592

Honestly, same.

593

Right?

594

Well, you can use it for so many things.

595

Exactly.

596

It's very multi-purpose.

597

Put it on your body, put it on your face.

598

Put it on your body.

599

Yeah.

600

Put it on your body.

601

I put it like here all the time.

602

And when I'm getting ready for like red carpets and stuff, I put it on my arms.

603

We're actually working on something that's like a new iteration in that world.

604

You know what my favorite thing is that you've ever made?

605

The spray.

606

Oh, the spray.

607

It's the best.

608

It's the best.

609

It's my favorite.

610

No, it's the best.

611

I was saying to somebody, I think yesterday, that I didn't have it in my bathroom the other day

612

because I put it in my purse because I take it with me everywhere.

613

And I was like, damn, like, I really miss it when I don't have it.

614

It's amazing.

615

And that's how I know we've made something that's really good because when I start to miss something in my skincare routine.

616

Totally.

617

But that was my whole point of road was making all my favorite versions of my stuff. Of course.

618

Okay, so now play the game.

619

What's one thing you would take in your life to a desert island?

620

That's not people.

621

Why?

622

You would take me?

623

I probably would love to have my son and my husband with me.

624

But what would I take?

625

A tarp?

626

I don't know.

627

A tarp?

628

No, you're going to want to cut that.

629

Actually, leave it in.

630

It's insane.

631

I've never heard something like it.

632

I'm such a practical thinker.

633

It's like sickening.

634

A tarp.

635

I think with the mind.

636

I don't think with anything else.

637

Totally.

638

A tarp.

639

I'm obsessed with that.

640

I'm just going to text you later.

641

Tarp.

642

What would you bring?

643

I'm obsessed.

644

What kind of desert island is this?

645

You think there's hurricanes?

646

Are we talking about Cast Away?

647

Like, what the fuck?

648

What movie have you not seen where they're deserted and they like...

649

I meant like Survivor.

650

I guess it's the same thing.

651

It's the same thing.

652

I guess you would need a tarp.

653

If I was to be trapped in the Maldives when there's like a six star resort.

654

Like I won't need a tarp.

655

But yes, well, let's play that game.

656

OK, you and I are stranded in the Maldives.

657

Nobody else there.

658

And we're just stranded at a hotel.

659

Great.

660

What are we bringing?

661

Oh, my God.

662

Well, the glazing milk, the glazing milk.

663

God, can't live without it.

664

I don't know what I would bring.

665

I actually on a desert island.

666

I hate that game.

667

I don't know what I would bring.

668

Because that's what I'm saying.

669

Think about it this way a desert island where you have no food, no shelter, no water.

670

You washed up on the beach.

671

I would bring, I'm obsessed with the tarp.

672

I would bring a boat, a rowboat.

673

So I could, how are you carrying a boat?

674

Or you're saying like you, you arrived there on a boat.

675

So if you arrive there on a boat, you have your boat and then you have one thing that you could like carry in your arms.

676

Okay.

677

Okay.

678

Okay.

679

Okay.

680

Okay.

681

Like a canteen.

682

I love how serious Haley's getting about this?

683

No, I'm serious.

684

Think about it.

685

We arrive in a dinghy.

686

Okay.

687

We're each holding one item.

688

So you brought the tarp.

689

I got the tarp and you brought.

690

By the way, thank you for getting the tarp because that's going to come in handy.

691

And then you're going to thank me when it's raining and we're not getting wet.

692

Okay.

693

I brought a fishing rod.

694

Great.

695

That's really practical. So now we're dry.

696

And we have food.

697

And we have food.

698

Hello.

699

We can survive forever.

700

What about I was going to say like a lighter

701

totally i don't think i've watched shows with in my mind

702

the white lotus right do you know what i mean that's your version of being stranded 100

703

so i'm like what do we need i'm like we need

704

a bose i'm like we need a we need to start a fire

705

and you're like we need a speaker i'm dead i'm dead

706

but we do we do also need

707

that we'd have to sing to each other it'll be beautiful yeah we go crazy I feel like you're secretly can sing.

708

I don't have a bad voice, but I would never sit here and be like, yeah, like I can sing.

709

Kylie just put out a song.

710

And it's so major to me.

711

It's so iconic.

712

The reason I think it's the coolest thing ever and it's

713

so iconic is because I love anyone who puts themselves out there and does something because they just want to try it.

714

Totally.

715

And what she said about it, like I never want to look back and wish I had done something or tried something.

716

I'm like, that is so bad bitch to me.

717

It's so badass.

718

It's so cool.

719

Right?

720

Like, she was like, fuck it.

721

I want to go in the studio and I want to make a song

722

because I just want to and like live out my pop star fantasy.

723

Yes.

724

But it's also this.

725

Not that it was cringe at all.

726

I actually love it.

727

I think it's so cool.

728

But I think cringe is back.

729

I think like doing things.

730

Putting yourself out there.

731

Doing things for the bit.

732

At the risk of being cringe or being misunderstood or any of it.

733

Put yourself out there because you don't know unless you try.

734

100%.

735

I love it.

736

100%.

737

Which is why I'm taking up ballet.

738

Are you being dead ass?

739

No. Oh, but, but.

740

Because I was like, I'll come with you. Would you?

741

Yeah, because I used to be a ballet dancer.

742

You're so uncomfortable.

743

You're like really getting like you're doing a dance.

744

What are you doing?

745

I'm just pulling my jeans down because they were coming up to here.

746

Such a cute outfit.

747

My Brazil shirt.

748

Okay, I have some questions.

749

Okay, go for it.

750

So mother, your mother.

751

Okay, go off.

752

What would you say?

753

Like, what do you pride yourself on?

754

What would you say your best quality is as a mom?

755

I feel like I have always been a really nurturing person.

756

Yeah.

757

So I feel like something that comes very naturally to me is being nurturing.

758

Totally.

759

A hundred percent.

760

I think you also, you're so supportive.

761

Thank you.

762

You are like deeply supportive.

763

Thank you.

764

I mean, Haley being here is really nice, but like also like every time I've ever asked for anything or asked questions about anything, you're just like, you're there for me in a second.

765

And I feel like that is also translated, obviously, to being a mom.

766

Thank you.

767

Does it ever feel daunting to be a young mom?

768

Like such a young mom?

769

I think it did feel daunting.

770

And then once he was here, it didn't feel as daunting.

771

Yeah.

772

I think when you, your life is about to change in a way

773

which you've never experienced before and you don't know what to expect and you don't know what's coming.

774

Totally.

775

So many people before I had a baby told me, you can never be ready for it.

776

You can never fully prepare yourself for it.

777

And I think that's very true because you just don't know what it's like until you're in it.

778

So I do think it felt a little bit daunting.

779

I think there was fears around it.

780

I think, you know, I didn't know what to expect.

781

But once they're here, you do, you just figure it out day by day.

782

And it's like every single day I'm learning something new about how to be a mom

783

and what's best for my son and what's best for me as a mom.

784

And, you know.

785

I think everybody sees you as this gorgeous woman with such a career.

786

And I think they're like, oh, she has 150 nannies and she doesn't ever see her baby.

787

And I think just knowing you, that is so the opposite of who you are.

788

I'm someone who I always wanted to be a mom.

789

So I'm super, super, super hands on with my son.

790

Totally.

791

I do have help.

792

I have full time help.

793

And I'm super not ashamed to say that.

794

And I would never shy away from talking about that

795

because I wouldn't be able to have my career and do the things that I do without the help.

796

And I feel really grateful for that.

797

But even with that, I am super, super like constantly.

798

We just took a break.

799

So Haley could ultimately text about about.

800

Yeah, exactly.

801

And it's like if he's not with me, he's with his dad.

802

He's always with like his family.

803

And he's always with somebody that, you know, he's always with one of us or with somebody, his godparents or someone that like.

804

Do you want maybe this is too personal.

805

You might not want to answer this.

806

But do you want Jack to to grow up in L.A.?

807

I think I want him to grow up in multiple places.

808

Yeah, I think we're such travelers as a family and we were that way before we had him.

809

So I think I just want him to grow up traveling, which is honestly how I grew up.

810

And I love that.

811

I think that makes you a really cultured person.

812

Yeah.

813

I didn't go anywhere.

814

I only stayed here.

815

But now you're going everywhere.

816

But now I'm going everywhere.

817

I'm making up for it.

818

But no, but I think the people that went, that had the privilege to go everywhere.

819

Yeah.

820

They're really wise.

821

They're really like, Well, my dad was an actor.

822

Yeah. And...

823

when he would be filming he'd be filming in

824

so many different places around the world

825

so we always like for the most part always went with

826

him what was your favorite place as a kid to go

827

to my favorite place as a kid to go to like i remember going

828

when he filmed something in brazil and i remember going there

829

which was cool because my mom is from there that's amazing in case

830

that wasn't obvious yeah i want that shirt it's

831

so cute it's really cute

832

but i also remember like a trip we did as a family where we drove across Canada in an RV, which is one of my most memorable trips as a kid?

833

I would.

834

Yeah.

835

Justin and I have done it a couple of times.

836

We what?

837

He has like a tour bus that is ours that we own.

838

And so we've during COVID and stuff, we were like road tripping.

839

Just you guys?

840

Yeah.

841

That's so cute.

842

That's so cute.

843

Where'd you go?

844

We went all through California.

845

We drove to Idaho.

846

We drove to Wyoming.

847

Like we drove to a bunch of different places.

848

That's so cute.

849

Yeah, it was really fun.

850

I want to come.

851

Come next time. Can I?

852

Me, you, Justin, and Jack. And Jared.

853

No, Jared doesn't need to come.

854

Jared, I talk about this in every episode.

855

And I was just telling you this.

856

I have a feeling Jared's going to propose soon.

857

Right.

858

What?

859

Does Jared know this?

860

No. No, yeah.

861

What do you want, love?

862

You want this?

863

Okay, so I, the other day, oh my God, we have to talk about something that's absolutely hilarious and I don't know if you're running for it.

864

It's so funny.

865

Just do it.

866

And then if we- At your Chase Sapphire event, first of all, I have to go wherever Haley goes.

867

So when she invites me somewhere, I go, I'm there.

868

I go, I'm there.

869

I'll be there.

870

Which I love because we have the best time.

871

No, it's the best.

872

So I get to this Chase Sapphire event.

873

I was sitting across from you and the best food was coming out.

874

I was diving in.

875

Loving it, loving it getting drunk, having the best time.

876

And then Haley left.

877

Do you remember this?

878

And I spilled wine all over this girl.

879

Horrible. So embarrassing.

880

I'm actually really clumsy.

881

No, Haley, it made me like, I'm already obsessed with you, but it made me like, really like love you because you get up, you're like, bye.

882

You're so gracious to the team.

883

You're like, bye everyone.

884

Thanks for coming.

885

And suddenly you walk by and suddenly this huge red wine is poured into this girl's white dress.

886

And you literally were like, and you looked at me and you looked at her.

887

I start taking napkins.

888

I'm like, I'm dabbing her.

889

I'm like, I'm absolutely dead.

890

I turned to her and I was like, it's going to, we're going to get, we're going to figure this out.

891

Her whole shirt is stained.

892

Like I couldn't believe myself.

893

Hilarious.

894

It was one of the best moments ever because I was like, Oh, you spill stuff all the time.

895

I know.

896

I like, It's just humbling for me.

897

I hit my fucking elbows on the door when I'm walking.

898

Like I'm...

899

All your Zyrtec is everywhere in your bag?

900

My Zyrtec is spilled all over the bottom of my bag.

901

Like...

902

I love that you're clumsy.

903

I'm really clumsy, but you're, I think, clumsier than me.

904

Yeah.

905

Sometimes.

906

It depends.

907

I think it's just...

908

Yeah.

909

I think I must not be paying attention to my spatial awareness or something.

910

You don't have spatial awareness?

911

Justin and I will go to like kiss.

912

It'll be like a romantic moment.

913

I'll like hit his head by accident.

914

Like I'm like dorky like that sometimes.

915

And then what does he do?

916

He's like, ow, that hurts?

917

He just laughs because he's like, this is you.

918

This is so you.

919

I was with Jared the other night and he tried to be really romantic.

920

He did this whole date night.

921

Jared is so sweet, by the way.

922

Come on.

923

No, he's the best person alive.

924

He's literally my favorite.

925

Guys, what is happening?

926

Haley, you're hard.

927

The rumors are true. Do people say that?

928

No. Like when people are trying to be mean, they're like, she looks trans.

929

And I'm like, why do you think that's a diss?

930

Wait, totally.

931

As if being like trans is a diss

932

or like some of the most beautiful women in the world and men in the world are trans.

933

So I just don't take that offensively at all.

934

But I love that.

935

You're just in here with Serena.

936

Look, it's Serena.

937

Now I cover myself because I'm like.

938

It's Serena.

939

Okay.

940

That's an In Your Dreams exclusive.

941

Hailey Bieber just kissed Serena Carpenter.

942

Okay.

943

So that's the headline.

944

That's the headline, by the way, it would be.

945

I'm like, can't I be in the headline for once?

946

No. So Jared tried to do this romantic thing the other day and we went to dinner.

947

And then after he obviously wanted to have sex.

948

And so he like takes me into the bedroom.

949

He like leads me into the bedroom.

950

And then so he had these roses on the bed.

951

Roses on the bed.

952

Okay.

953

Okay.

954

And are you dead at this?

955

I think it's cute.

956

It's so cute until.

957

Okay we were getting our clothes off right why am i

958

talking like i'm an old woman we were getting naked we're

959

about to fuck yeah hey damn me up bro you're about to fuck um we were gonna fuck

960

and the roses had thorns on those i'm literally not kidding they were on the bed so suddenly

961

i'm here i didn't know no dude so i'm naked now on the bed

962

and he's like trying to be romantic So he splayed the roses out.

963

And the back of my leg goes, boom, into a rose.

964

I'm like, ow!

965

And then suddenly I move a shift and now my ass on the road.

966

Ow!

967

I'm like, oh my God.

968

I'm like holding my dick.

969

I'm like, what the hell?

970

Take those off.

971

So then he took them off and I'm like, Jared, I'm going to bed.

972

Like, what was that?

973

Good night.

974

So I turned over and I went to bed.

975

That is hilarious, first of all.

976

Second of all, it makes me think of myself a little bit too, because I'm like, I'm like that.

977

I'll try to do the most like romantic gesture like everything's leading up to it.

978

Nothing's going, everything's going perfectly planned.

979

And then like there's thorns on the roses and I'm like, fuck, yeah.

980

Nothing can ever just go off without a hitch.

981

Of course, of course.

982

What's your dream date night?

983

I really love good food.

984

You know this about me. Of course.

985

So I love just like a really good dinner where we're laughing and having good conversation and.

986

At like a restaurant or would you make it?

987

Either or, but I like going out and trying new food.

988

That's something that, It's fun for me.

989

What's your favorite?

990

Can you give this away?

991

My favorite restaurant in LA?

992

What are your favorite restaurants in LA?

993

Okay.

994

So I have a few.

995

Let's go by category.

996

Done.

997

Fuck it.

998

Sushi.

999

Okay.

1000

Sushi Park. Of course.

1001

Why don't you ever take me there?

1002

Sushi Fumi.

1003

Why don't you ever take me to Sushi Park?

1004

We have to, I'm confronting you.

1005

You've never asked.

1006

I really want to go with you.

1007

So we'll go.

1008

Anytime.

1009

It's delicious.

1010

You know what I see on Daily Mail?

1011

It's Haley Bieber's at Sushi Park.

1012

I go, she's in LA?

1013

Just text me and be like, bitch, I'm coming next time next time yes exactly that's the

1014

best way to get my attention um sushi park i love

1015

that you can laugh at yourself i like laughing at myself

1016

life is too serious to not do anything else i know

1017

keep going sushi park sushi food me matsuhisa here's the thing for me about sushi is

1018

that i love like traditional omakase sushi japanese food is like my favorite food period

1019

but i'm also from rockland county new york

1020

and i feel like i was having this conversation with somebody the other day Like suburb New York sushi, like Philadelphia rolls and shit.

1021

Like I love like great rolls.

1022

I don't love Philadelphia.

1023

Wait, Philadelphia roll with cream cheese in it?

1024

Okay.

1025

I don't like those personally, but I'm just saying like that kind of style sushi, like battered fried shrimp tempura rolls.

1026

By the way, yum.

1027

The best ever.

1028

Yum, we're diving in.

1029

I love going somewhere that also has like really good rolls and like creamy shrimp tempura and all of that.

1030

So like a Nobu Matsuhisa.

1031

Sushi Fumi Sushi Park.

1032

Those are my favorite go-to sushi spots.

1033

Okay, Italian.

1034

I love Funky in Beverly Hills.

1035

Haley got me a reservation at Funky, remember?

1036

It was Jared's birthday.

1037

I was with Haley.

1038

Haley was like, what are you doing tonight?

1039

And I was like, I don't know.

1040

And then I was like, oh my God, wait, it's Jared's birthday.

1041

And Haley was like, what?

1042

Haley was like, where's Jared?

1043

I was like, I don't know.

1044

I haven't texted him.

1045

And then Haley's like, oh, and that's so mean.

1046

You have to do something romantic day.

1047

So I turned it over to you and you made a reservation for me.

1048

And I was like, let me do, let me plan you guys something.

1049

You have to do something.

1050

At least let's go to a dinner.

1051

You planned this beautiful, funky reservation.

1052

And I think they thought you were coming in because they gave us a gorgeous booth in the back.

1053

Like literally because they're really kind and accommodating.

1054

It was hilarious.

1055

I walked in, I was like for Haley.

1056

And they're like, they're like, is she attending?

1057

They're like, no. Yeah, literally.

1058

They're like, is she coming?

1059

I'm like no no no but the food was great no amazing

1060

so good it was also gorgeous in there yeah okay keep going

1061

so funky georgio baldi is and we sit with that a classic

1062

and we sit with her anajak tie shifting i don't know you don't get to anajak no whoo

1063

so good really anajak ties where is it in the valley

1064

studio city i'll be there tonight um what else do you postmate a lot yeah all the You're like in sweatbands post-meaning?

1065

My favorite thing to do is like be at home, be in sweats, face mask on, order food, binge watch a TV show.

1066

Are you a homebody?

1067

I used to not be a homebody.

1068

Like I loved going out, out to dinner, being out and about.

1069

I mean, I loved a club when I was like 19 or 20.

1070

But I used to just love being social.

1071

So I loved dinners, drinks, like constantly just liked filling my schedule.

1072

And I think that's because I moved into the city, into New York City when I was 17.

1073

and then it was like my world got opened up to like there's something to do every night

1074

and like you're boom boom boom and I was like traveling all the time

1075

and it was like a plane a new city you get

1076

home you go to dinner with your friends you go out

1077

on a Tuesday you go out on a Thursday it's this club it's this thing

1078

so then when I got married I was just

1079

so used to this life of constantly moving and moving around

1080

and so I feel like I was constantly filling my schedule with just like my friends and people I love.

1081

And I just always loved being social.

1082

And then in the last like two years ish, I felt a lot more like wanting to be a little bit more inward.

1083

And then especially when I had my son, because now my favorite place to be is home now.

1084

And I have, you know, the most fun at home.

1085

And I really, a lot of my FOMO for things has died.

1086

Yeah.

1087

That's interesting.

1088

My My FOMO is going through the roof.

1089

And I'm sure it'll go in phases.

1090

I'm sure I'll have moments in my life where my FOMO is a lot higher.

1091

There's certain things that I have FOMO about.

1092

For sure, I'm not saying like, I'm so evolved and I have no FOMO.

1093

I just, I feel like I used to have way more FOMO than I do now.

1094

That's great.

1095

Because it's just like the desire is not there anymore.

1096

I'm like, yeah.

1097

That's also being mature.

1098

That's becoming an adult.

1099

Right.

1100

Sorry.

1101

Hopefully.

1102

It's becoming an adult.

1103

Yeah.

1104

And also with a kid, it's like, I'm with my kid.

1105

What am I missing out on a party?

1106

And you realize you're missing out on nothing.

1107

Yeah.

1108

You're actually, what you're missing more is when you're missing out with your kid.

1109

And that's when you realize.

1110

You make me want to have a kid.

1111

You should do a TED talk about like.

1112

And if you want to, you should.

1113

It's really the best.

1114

Would you carry my kid?

1115

No. That was so quick.

1116

But I love you and really want you to have kids.

1117

I just don't think I'm personally interested in being a surrogate for someone else.

1118

And you know what?

1119

That's fair.

1120

That's, I think that's fair.

1121

I go fair.

1122

Yeah.

1123

No, no one has to.

1124

Also, I'm scared for my kid to end.

1125

No. You would be a great dad.

1126

Okay.

1127

Are you ready?

1128

We're going to play a game.

1129

So we're playing hot seat.

1130

So it's yes or no questions and we can just go as fast as we can.

1131

Gut, feeling, reaction, whatever.

1132

Based on headlines.

1133

Do you drink regular milk?

1134

Yes, all the time.

1135

Whole milk?

1136

I don't have like a dairy allergy and I like the taste of whole milk.

1137

Does that make me a freak?

1138

No, I think that's great.

1139

I think that's absolutely great.

1140

Did you ever finish reading that medical terminology book?

1141

Yeah, actually, I did the whole thing.

1142

It was like a work.

1143

It was a workbook.

1144

It was like you would read sections and answer questions and do like little like fill out little questions.

1145

And you did it?

1146

Yeah.

1147

I want to do that.

1148

In that video, when the medical terminology book came out, you can see where it's like earmarked of how far I was in it.

1149

I'm obsessed with that.

1150

I feel like it is such a pick me thing that I did that.

1151

But by the way, I'll be a pick me all day.

1152

I just like I love medicine and I love like medical stuff.

1153

And I feel like in a past life, I was a doctor.

1154

I actually believe that.

1155

Right.

1156

A hundred percent.

1157

You were like you were.

1158

I feel like all my friends come to me for like medical questions.

1159

Really?

1160

I feel like I have these pictures of rashes sometimes.

1161

And they're like, what do you think this is?

1162

Should I see a doctor?

1163

And I'm like, yes or no. Immediately go to the hospital.

1164

No, I think it's fine.

1165

Put cortisone on it.

1166

I'm shook.

1167

I'm going to start texting you rashes.

1168

One of those people that when it's a subject I really like, I absorb information really well so I can repeat it really well.

1169

Like when I had my stroke, just the honorable mention of the stroke.

1170

Well, we have to mention it.

1171

And my heart thing, I could like recite to you top to bottom like every single thing

1172

that happened and tests that I did and every medical term for it.

1173

And like, I just love it.

1174

Can I say something?

1175

I had a friend on the podcast.

1176

She's a comedian.

1177

Her name is Kat Cohen.

1178

She's amazing.

1179

Hilarious.

1180

She had the same stroke you had.

1181

Okay.

1182

And the reason she was able to even like feel okay and get through it is because she knows you had it.

1183

Aw.

1184

So she kept researching like Hailey Bieber.

1185

And then what was it called?

1186

It was called, well, I had a TIA, which is, she has a PFO.

1187

Yeah.

1188

PFO.

1189

Yeah.

1190

She kept looking Hailey Bieber PFO and like making sure everything was good with you and then she'd be like, okay, I'm gonna be fine.

1191

Did she have to get surgery?

1192

She got surgery, yeah.

1193

Yeah.

1194

Did you get surgery?

1195

Mm-hmm.

1196

Yeah.

1197

How are you doing?

1198

They go through your groin and it's like a whole thing.

1199

How are you doing?

1200

I'm fine now.

1201

Hole's closed.

1202

Hole is closed.

1203

Okay.

1204

If you had to drink urine to maintain your skin, would you?

1205

I don't think so.

1206

That sounds so yucky.

1207

I would never do it.

1208

I said I don't think so.

1209

See, I thought about it for a second.

1210

I would never do it.

1211

Ever.

1212

Horror movies?

1213

love you do yeah would you act you ask me this all the time i would

1214

if the right thing came along with the right director

1215

and the right project i would do it

1216

because i think there's certain directors

1217

that can like bring out a really good performance out of someone totally

1218

so i would if it was the right thing talking about putting yourself out there

1219

but i'm not like interested in acting horror movies i used to like be obsessed with watching scary movies

1220

and they wouldn't even make me flinch the slightest bit.

1221

And I feel like now I'm like, okay, I can't watch this at night because I don't want to have bad dreams and I don't want to have anxiety.

1222

Yeah.

1223

It really changed for me.

1224

Why?

1225

What do you think?

1226

I think I'm just more sensitive now.

1227

I feel like horror movies have gotten more realistic and more scary.

1228

Because the world is like reflecting the scariness of horror movies.

1229

I think that's why I'm so much more sensitive to it.

1230

Totally.

1231

Everything is real now.

1232

It could actually happen.

1233

Exactly.

1234

Have you dabbled in witchcraft?

1235

Oh, that's really a crazy question.

1236

I feel like people know that I'm like, was raised Christian.

1237

So that was always in my household, like a really, like my mom thought everything was witchcraft.

1238

Everything was demonic, was never allowed to watch Harry Potter.

1239

Like it was that serious.

1240

So don't dabble, love.

1241

Don't dabble, love.

1242

Would you ever live in Canada?

1243

Yeah, maybe not full time, but I really do love it there.

1244

Okay, I have two more questions for you.

1245

Okay.

1246

What's your nighttime routine?

1247

So my nighttime routine currently is I like to double cleanse,

1248

which is, you know, oil cleanser first, proper cleanser second. Of course.

1249

Mist.

1250

The road mist? Of course.

1251

It's really become like my first step in everything

1252

because I feel like it makes all my other products kind of sink in deeper.

1253

Yeah.

1254

I use the glazing milk.

1255

I use a serum.

1256

I'm always like testing and playing with different serums because I'm always doing like R&D for road.

1257

So a hydrating serum, whatever I'm using at the time.

1258

Right, right, right.

1259

I'm also using an eye cream right now, which I do sometimes and don't do other times.

1260

So I do serum, eye cream, moisturizer, lip.

1261

And that's my routine.

1262

And then you get into bed.

1263

How much do you sleep?

1264

How much do I sleep?

1265

Yeah.

1266

I try to at least get eight hours.

1267

is that a lot I used to sleep like like 10-12 hours I have to go

1268

is 8 hours a lot do you know how much I sleep like 2

1269

yeah

1270

4 to 6 it's not a lot of warm-up no no no it's really bad and it's catching up to me

1271

it's turning to freak out you sleep 8 hours a night I have to change my heart

1272

or like 9

1273

or 10 I have to change my whole life like I can get into bed at 9 o'clock

1274

and like sleep till 7 the next morning 8 the next morning what yeah Okay.

1275

But can I say one thing about that?

1276

Because I think that sleeping patterns have to do with genetics as well.

1277

Because my mom growing up, she could sleep like nobody's business.

1278

Like sleep till noon.

1279

Same as my dad.

1280

But my dad was not that way.

1281

He would sleep like five hours and be up at five in the morning.

1282

But my sister is the same way.

1283

So like me, my mom and my sister all sleep the same kind of way.

1284

A lot.

1285

A lot.

1286

Like I was the kid at sleepovers where everyone would be up at like 6 a.m.

1287

and I'd be sleeping till 10.

1288

My friends would be like, they're on their phone.

1289

I'm dead.

1290

And you're like, just one more hour.

1291

They'd be like, hey, can we go down and make pancakes?

1292

And I'd be like, give me one more, 30 more minutes.

1293

Like I was that, like I love to sleep.

1294

I wish I could sleep.

1295

I wish.

1296

Do you put, um, an eye mask on?

1297

Yeah.

1298

No. I also, I was saying this to somebody the other day.

1299

I had to like train myself to sleep on my back because.

1300

You used to sleep on your stomach?

1301

No, I would sleep on my left side, which is really healthy for you to see on your left side.

1302

But when I had my surgery, the heart thing it was really uncomfortable feeling to sleep on my side yeah

1303

and the comfiest way to sleep was like on my back

1304

and a little bit propped up which like now i love

1305

because it's way better for your skin to sleep on your back totally totally

1306

so now you're like yes yeah no i see now you're

1307

literally a mummy i'm literally like a vampire in a coffin i love

1308

that okay i just have i just saw this question

1309

that i really want to know okay

1310

when is the last time you got the ick from anyone doesn't have to be like oh my gosh

1311

that happens all the time i know but like what what is

1312

that thing for you right now i've given myself the ick

1313

what like i'll say something like oh why did i just say

1314

that that always happens hey like you're like what

1315

that always happens to me do you ever get like secondhand ick for someone of course yeah it happened today

1316

when i was at i was at cvs

1317

and this man was talking to this girl

1318

and clearly wanted to hit on her

1319

and was like you're picking up your drugs

1320

and then the girl was like and i looked at him

1321

and i was like no no no no no stop now

1322

stop now stop now yeah yeah yeah watching love is blind right now

1323

and the way i get icked out by love is blind like i'm hurt for oh my god it'd be

1324

so funny you on love is blind nobody would know i

1325

was actually joking with somebody about this the other day i was like i always wonder

1326

when i'm watching love is blind like what if

1327

that was me like would someone fall in love wait

1328

or would they be like this is crazy i think if somebody just was talking to me they'd be like

1329

I'm so delusional that I'm like, obviously he would fall in love immediately.

1330

Totally.

1331

Well, word bomb comes in our head.

1332

I was talking to Justin about this the other day and I was like, I always think about would they think I was attractive when the doors opened?

1333

Would the doors open and the guy be like damn, I'm so happy that she was my choice or would he be like oh.

1334

No, for me, they'd be like they'd see me and they'd be like I have to leave the show.

1335

They'd be like, literally, wait, it's a girl being like, make a best friend.

1336

It's me and you.

1337

It's us.

1338

Yeah.

1339

We matched on Love is Blind.

1340

That's our love story.

1341

We matched on Love is Blind.

1342

I ask every single person this on my podcast.

1343

Okay.

1344

What is your big dream?

1345

I think my big dream would be that people have more empathy

1346

and we could relate to each other a little bit more.

1347

And the way that people are so awful to each other and mean to each other on social media, on all of it, if we could meet each other with a little bit more understanding.

1348

Totally.

1349

I feel like society would be a better place.

1350

Totally.

1351

I love that.

1352

That's my big dream.

1353

My big dream is that we normalize smaller people in the relationship,

1354

shorter people in the relationship being the big spoon.

1355

I just wish that could be.

1356

I'm putting my stamp of approval on it.

1357

Thank you.

1358

But I get a lot of hate when I say to my friends, Jared didn't spoon me.

1359

They're like, you should spoon him.

1360

Just because you're taller and bigger?

1361

Yeah.

1362

I'm like, no. No, you guys should spoon each other.

1363

Okay, Haley, do you have anything you're dying to talk about that I didn't ask you?

1364

I just wanted to come on here and be cozy and be silly.

1365

Haley is one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life.

1366

Like, no, no, no, no, no. Haley and I in a room together, we die laughing.

1367

Well, that's a big compliment coming from Owen because Owen is actually one of the funniest people I've ever met.

1368

So when I make Owen laugh and he's like, dude, you're funny.

1369

Like, I don't think you knew I was funny until we became friends.

1370

Not at all.

1371

But you make me feel a lot funnier.

1372

But you are very funny.

1373

Thank you.

1374

You're very, very funny.

1375

I think also you are, and this is meant with love, you are so beautiful and intimidating.

1376

No, no, no. You see you on Instagram and you're like, how could that girl be funny?

1377

You know what I mean?

1378

But then you're just so naturally funny.

1379

Thank you.

1380

So now, you were this.

1381

Okay.

1382

And I were this.

1383

Thank you for coming on.

1384

I love you so much.

1385

You mean the world to me.

1386

I would do this.

1387

We make out. Can I be honest?

1388

I was like, oh my God, I'm going to do that.

1389

I got nervous.

1390

I was like, oh shit.

1391

Me texting Justin.

1392

I just did it, but I promise it means nothing.

1393

Okay.

1394

Ready?

1395

Yes.

1396

We look into this camera.

1397

Oh.

1398

Hi.

1399

And we say, well, okay.

1400

Well, we're saying bye.

1401

We're done.

1402

Bye.

1403

Haley goes, we have another two hours.

1404

Let's go.

1405

I'm like, let's just start over.

1406

I'm dead.

1407

You look into these cameras and you say, good night.

1408

I love you.

1409

Okay.

1410

Okay.

1411

Ready?

1412

On the count of three, we do it together.

1413

Okay.

1414

Thank you for coming on.

1415

I love you.

1416

Three, two, one.

1417

Good night.

1418

You forgot your line.

1419

You can't be an actor.

1420

I love you.

1421

Okay.

1422

Ready?

1423

Yes.

1424

I'm ready.

1425

I'm ready.

1426

Three.

1427

You're like, if the right project comes along, I'm like this right now.

1428

I'm like, this is the right project.

1429

Okay.

1430

I'm locked in.

1431

Three, two, one.

1432

Good night.

1433

I love you.

1434

Hayley Bieber on the podcast.

1435

You're going to figure it out.

1436

In your dreams Good night, oh, enteo

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这段对话非常适合英语口语练习，能帮你掌握两项实用技能：一是自然的日常对话衔接，比如如何用“okay”“so”等词流畅转换话题；二是口语中的情感表达，像视频里主持人用尖叫和夸张语气传递兴奋，让交流更生动。此外，对话里的朋友间互动场景，也很适合雅思口语练习中“描述人际关系”的话题。

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说话人最常用的结构，并附上视频中的原话：

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现在完成进行时 have/has been + -ing — 以前开始、现在仍在继续的动作	i've been dapping · you've been moisturizing
现在完成时 have/has + 过去分词 — 过去发生但与现在仍有关联的事	have manifested · we've ever had · we've been
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