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What's up everyone?
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Welcome back to Podcast and Chill.
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I'm Leo.
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And I'm Gwen.
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This is our little space for learning English.
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No stress here, just real talks.
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Today we're talking about something I'm not great at.
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Walking into a room full of people.
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And feeling like you're on the outside looking in?
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Exactly.
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My brain immediately goes, don't say anything stupid.
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Just stay quiet.
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And what happens next?
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I say nothing.
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Then I leave thinking, why didn't I just talk to them?
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It's the worst.
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That's exactly what we're talking about today.
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How to speak with confidence.
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But Gwen, here's the weird part.
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The more I want to be confident, the more tense I get.
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So why does trying make us freeze?
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That's the big question, isn't it?
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Well, we're getting into that.
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We'll look at what's going on inside our heads and how to change it in simple ways.
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By the way, this episode is B1-level English, so if you hear new words, don't panic.
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We'll break down key vocabulary in our English word journey at the end.
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For now, just listen and let it flow.
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You don't need to catch everything.
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It'll come, naturally.
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Alright.
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Ready to talk confidently?
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Let's do this.
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So, Gwen, do you ever join a conversation but just can't focus?
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Like, your body's in the room, nodding and smiling, but your mind's somewhere else.
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Oh, I know that feeling.
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It happens to me sometimes.
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Right?
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I just don't know why that happened.
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It's like there's this force or voice controlling my mind.
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It keeps whispering things to me while everyone else is talking.
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Whispering what?
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So, every time I'm about to speak, it shuts me down with something like, don't say that, nobody cares, just stay quiet, it's safer.
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Uh-huh.
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While that voice is whispering, what's happening in the real conversation?
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It keeps moving, without me.
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I'm standing there like a garden statue, watching life move past me while I'm just frozen.
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Well, Leo, that means you're actually having two conversations at once.
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Two at the same time?
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Whoa.
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Yeah.
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So there's one conversation happening out loud with people.
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Meanwhile, the other is inside your head with yourself.
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Hmm.
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I feel like I'm arguing with myself more than I'm talking to anyone.
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I know.
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But that's normal.
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You probably think that voice is there because you have nothing to say, right?
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I mean, yeah.
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It feels that way sometimes.
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But that's not true.
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You do have things to say.
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The problem is you're too busy thinking about whether you should say something or not.
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And by the time I decide to speak, the moment's gone.
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Exactly.
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The conversation already moved on, and you're still stuck on the last topic.
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True.
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It's so exhausting.
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So where does this voice even come from?
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Like, who invited it?
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Well, it comes from caring too much about what other people might think.
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Might.
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Key word.
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Half the time, they're not even thinking about me.
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Yeah.
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In your head, though.
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What if I say something wrong?
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What if they think I'm weird?
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What if I sound stupid?
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Ugh.
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Stop reading my diary.
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Seriously.
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I ask myself those exact questions every single time.
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Right.
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So when you walk into a conversation with your mind full of those thoughts...
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It makes you feel so timid before you even open your mouth.
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Exactly.
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But you're not really a shy person.
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You're just letting that voice run the show.
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And when that voice runs the show, there's no room left to actually listen.
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Bingo!
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You spend so much time watching yourself that you can't be there with people.
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So, I'm basically watching a movie of myself instead of being in the actual scene?
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Yep.
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Your attention should be on the people you talk to, not on the voice in your head putting you down.
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But Gwen, it's so hard to stop.
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It just turns on by itself.
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I know.
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The worst part is that those negative thoughts create what I call a mental wall.
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A mental wall?
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Yeah, that wall blocks you from connecting with people.
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It keeps you safe, sure.
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But it also keeps you stuck outside the conversation.
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Huh.
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Just like standing there like a garden statue.
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It's quite sad if you think about that.
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Yeah, it is.
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Good news is, we don't have to be stuck there forever.
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We just need to change a few things.
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Let's start with something simple.
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body.
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Your body?
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I thought this was about my brain.
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Well, your brain follows your body.
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It's hard to control your thoughts directly, but you can control your posture.
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Okay, I'm listening.
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So what do I do?
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Stand like a soldier?
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Close.
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Just stand straight.
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Shoulders back, make eye contact.
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Don't forget to smile.
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A smile actually helps?
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Of course.
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When someone smiles at you, how do you feel?
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Safe.
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like I'm allowed to go talk to them.
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That's right.
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A smile is like a green traffic light.
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It tells people you can come closer.
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Universal welcome sign, eh?
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Yeah, and the cool part is when you stand tall and smile, your brain goes, oh, we must be confident right now.
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It's like sending signals to your mind.
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Ah, fake it till you make it.
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It's not even fake.
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You're just choosing a confident posture, and your feelings follow.
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Let me just sit straight.
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Huh.
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It actually doesn't feel that bad.
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But Gwen, my brain's still loud.
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That voice doesn't give up easily, does it?
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Your body's ready, but your thoughts are still running.
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Hmm.
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Can I just ignore it and talk anyway?
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That's one way.
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But let's get more specific.
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Say you make a comment and people laugh.
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What's the first thing that appears in your head?
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Oh no, I said something stupid.
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Now they're making fun of me.
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Now, what if your brain tried this instead?
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At least I made someone happy.
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Hold on.
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That's actually a completely different way to see it.
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Right?
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Or if you make a mistake, instead of I'm so dumb, try that's a moment to learn.
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Let me get this straight.
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My brain has been feeding me the wrong lines this whole time.
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Yep, the wrong lines, the wrong script, the whole thing.
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You just didn't know you could rewrite it.
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So if I change the thoughts, I change the talk.
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Is it really that simple?
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That's the idea.
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And the thing is, you'll mess up while doing it.
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But we all do.
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Because real confidence isn't about never making mistakes, it's about not being afraid of them.
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Yeah, Scared Leo stays quiet.
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Not Scared Leo, though, he might have a real good time.
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I want to meet this not scared Leo.
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Does he actually know how to talk to people?
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He does.
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But let me guess how you play the conversation game.
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The conversation game?
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Uh-huh.
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Here's a test.
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When someone's talking, are you already planning what to speak?
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Isn't that what everyone does?
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Thinking about what to say next while the other person is still going?
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That's the problem right there.
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You're not really listening.
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You're just waiting for your turn.
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Huge difference.
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Oh, you mean I've been treating conversations like standing in line at a coffee shop.
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A little bit, but here's a better way to play it.
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Imagine a conversation is like playing football.
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Okay, I like this.
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My social life is basically a sport.
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If you hold the ball too long, like talking only about yourself, the game gets boring, right?
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Yeah, nobody wants to watch one person run around with the ball forever.
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And yet, just passing it back with questions, no sharing, that doesn't work either.
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So too much me or too much them both are bad.
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To keep the game alive, we need to… We've got to go back and forth.
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That's what makes it fun.
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You pass the ball with open-ended questions, the kind people can't just answer with yes or no. Like, what do you think about?
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Or what's the most interesting part for you?
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That's right.
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And when they answer, you listen.
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Like really listen to them, not waiting for your turn.
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Then I get the ball back with follow-up questions.
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Now you're playing.
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Try something like, why is that?
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Or tell me more.
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Simple but gold.
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Interesting.
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So if I'm just waiting to speak I'm basically talking to myself pretty much and that's not even a
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conversation that's just two people taking turns being bored calling me out again hey I'm saying this
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with love the connection between people needs more than just words it needs presence too huh like be there for them truly listen and respond.
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Correct.
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Cool.
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But even when I'm trying to be present, there's this thing I do that probably ruins it.
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Tell me already.
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Now I'm curious.
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I apologize.
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For everything.
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Sorry I'm talking too much.
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Sorry that was a dumb question.
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Sorry for even breathing the same air with you.
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All right.
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That's a lot of self-deprecation.
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Leo, why would you put yourself down like that?
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I don't know.
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I guess I don't want people to think I'm annoying or rude.
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Leo, when you do that, it kind of sends the message that you don't value your own voice.
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And that's just sad.
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Way worse than being a little annoying.
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Whoa.
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Okay, Gwen.
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That one actually hurt.
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I thought I was being polite.
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Nope.
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People will believe what you tell them.
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Keep apologizing, and they'll think you should.
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That's scary.
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What should I say then?
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because speaking without saying sorry feels weird.
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It's simple.
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Just say what you want to say, then stop.
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That's it?
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I don't need to over-explain myself?
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Not at all.
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Trust that people understood you.
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If they don't, they'll ask.
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What if there's silence after I speak?
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I always feel like I need to fill it.
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It's fine, really.
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A two-second silence isn't a disaster.
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It's a pause, like in music, you know?
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You mean the pauses give meaning to the notes?
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Uh-huh.
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You don't have to fill every second with sound.
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Sometimes silence means people are thinking about what you said.
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So the quiet doesn't always signal danger?
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Nope.
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It's just space.
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And if you still want to, you can ask, does that make sense to you?
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Or thanks for listening.
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Instead of apologizing?
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Yep.
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Instead of sorry for even breathing the same air with you.
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All right, all right.
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I'm done with that habit.
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It's crazy how normal it felt until you pointed it out.
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There you go.
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Now, remember that presence thing we mentioned earlier?
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Yeah, the truly listen and respond part?
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Well, that's actually where confidence lives, not in saying the perfect thing.
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Just being able to be there with someone, fully.
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All that football passing, the listening, not over-apologizing, is it pointing us to that?
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Bingo.
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When you're truly present, the other person notices.
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Like they feel respected?
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Yeah.
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Once they sense that respect, they relax.
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After that, the conversation just flows.
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You don't have to force it.
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Oh, I see it now.
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Gwen, you know those people who actually listen?
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Like, really listen?
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Yeah?
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What about them?
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I met a few.
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And every time I walk away when I'm done talking with them, I think, man, I feel so much better now.
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But I never knew why.
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Hmm.
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The way they listen, there's something about it that strikes a chord, isn't there?
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Yeah, it just felt so right.
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Like they actually got me.
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I just didn't have the words for it before.
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See?
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They weren't trying to impress you.
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They were simply there with you.
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So confidence isn't about being all smooth.
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It's about making the other person feel seen?
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Resonate.
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That's the word.
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When your presence resonates with someone, they remember how you made them feel, not what you said.
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Because it sticks with them.
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Yep.
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A good kind of sticky.
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It's way more attractive than someone trying to be impressive.
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Okay, but real talk here.
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I have another problem.
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Only one?
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I'm serious.
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I am so bad at endings.
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Like, when the conversation's over, I just kinda leave it there?
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Or mumble, well, see you around, I guess.
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Please tell me you're joking.
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I wish I were.
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It gets so awkward.
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I don't know how to end it.
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Listen here, Leo.
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The last impression?
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It actually matters more than the first one.
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Wait, really?
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Think about it.
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You have a great chat with someone, then they just disappear.
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How do you feel?
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Forgotten, I think.
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Like it was all fake.
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Right, but imagine they look at you, smile, and say, hey, I really enjoyed talking with you.
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You feel...
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Oh, I feel great.
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Wonderful even.
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That's the power of a simple ending for you.
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You don't need a speech, just a little honesty.
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No need for fancy goodbye, this was fun, great talking with you, that's enough?
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That's plenty.
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It shows you value the time you just shared.
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You know what I'm realizing?
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All of this, posture, questions, not apologizing, endings?
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Yeah.
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It's a lot to remember.
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I'm definitely going to mess some of this up.
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Like I said before, Leo, you will mess up, but that's how you build confidence anyway.
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Hmm, because confidence is a skill, not something you're born with, am I right?
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You're on point, and that skill is something you can build by trying, failing, and improving.
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Every conversation is a practice.
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You don't have to be perfect right away.
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Fair point.
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Nobody picks up a guitar and plays like a rock star overnight.
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Speak for yourself.
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I'm still working on Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.
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Well, we all start somewhere, I guess.
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Even great guitarists had to learn their first chord.
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True.
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And since we're all about words here...
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Oh, is it time?
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Yep.
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Time for English word journey, everyone.
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Let's break down the key words from today's episode.
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First up, presence.
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This means you give someone your full attention and really focus on them.
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Example, I felt calm because of her presence during our conversation.
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Second, resonate.
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It means something that connects with your feelings or experiences.
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For example, his story about feeling nervous in groups resonated with me because I've been there.
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Next, self-deprecation.
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This means making yourself or your abilities seem less important than they really are.
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Example, she made Leitifor a ward with self-deprecation, saying it was just luck.
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Continue with strike a chord.
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This phrase means something hits you emotionally because it feels true or familiar.
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For example, when Leo said he felt like a garden statue, that really struck a chord with me.
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Next, back and forth.
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This means something moves from one place to another and back again repeatedly.
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Example, the back and forth between the two friends was fun to watch.
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Last one, timid.
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This word means being shy, lacking confidence, or fearful.
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For example, the timid student sat in the back and never raised her hand.
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That's six vocabulary words for your confidence toolbox.
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But hey, don't click away just yet.
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Stick around a bit more with us.
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We're not done until we leave you with something real.
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Thank you guys so much for spending your time with us today.
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If this helped, give us a like and share it with someone who needs it.
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Before you go, remember that voice in your head, the one that tells you to stay quiet?
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We spent this whole episode talking about how to shut it down.
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Now, let's make it simple.
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Always stand straight and smile.
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That's your signal to turn on the confidence mode.
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Rewrite the script.
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Instead of, they're laughing at me, try, at least I made someone smile.
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Don't forget to pass the ball with questions, listen, and go back and forth.
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Finally, for the love of everything, stop apologizing.
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Silence isn't danger, it's just space.
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After this video, don't just nod and think, OK, I get it.
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Understanding isn't the same as doing.
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Here's your mission.
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Go to the comments and write this sentence.
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Next time, I will say blank.
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Fill in the blank with something you're usually afraid to say.
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It could be, I agree.
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What do you think?
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Maybe that's interesting, or just a simple hi.
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The moment you write it down is the moment you stop imagining and start doing.
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That's where confidence begins.
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Not in your head.
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Right there.
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In the comments.
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We're glad you hung out with us today.
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This is Podcast and Chill.
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I'm Leo.
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And I'm Gwen.
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We'll see you in the next episode.
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Goodbye.
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이번 수업에서는 일상 대화에서 자신감을 가지고 말하는 방법에 대해 배웁니다. 우리는 많은 사람들이 대화 중에 느끼는 불안감을 다룰 것입니다. Leo와 Gwen의 팟캐스트를 통해, 불안과 긴장을 느끼지 않고도 자연스럽게 대화에 참여하는 방법을 연습할 수 있습니다. 이 수업은 B1 수준의 영어를 기반으로 하므로, 새로운 단어를 들어도 걱정하지 마세요. 마치 친구와 대화하듯 편안하게 들어주세요.
주요 어휘 및 구문
- 걱정하지 마세요 (don't panic): 어려운 상황에서 자신을 진정시키는 표현
- 자연스럽게 흐르게 하세요 (let it flow): 대화를 자연스럽게 진행하는 방법
- 상의하는 힘 (voice controlling): 내면의 불안을 표현하는 방식
- 정신이 다른 곳에 있다 (mind's somewhere else): 대화에 집중하지 못하는 상태
- 정신이 얼어붙다 (freeze): 긴장으로 인해 대화를 시작하기 어려운 상태
- 상담하듯 말하다 (talk confidently): 자신감을 가지고 이야기하는 자세
- 이중 대화 (two conversations at once): 실제 대화와 내면의 대화가 동시에 이루어지는 상황
- 친구처럼 가까워지다 (getting closer like friends): 편안하게 대화하는 방법
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이 이번 수업의 영어 쉐도잉 연습을 통해, 자연스러운 대화 속도를 체험해보세요. 팟캐스트를 들으며 shadow speak하거나 shadowspeak을 연습하세요. 초반에는 천천히 성량을 맞추고, 각 구문에 집중하여 따라 해보세요. 대화의 리듬에 맞춰 목소리를 내는 것이 중요합니다. 만약 자신이 긴장을 느낀다면, 잠시 멈추고 깊게 숨을 쉬며 마음의 준비를 해보세요. 자신의 음성을 녹음하여 나중에 듣고 피드백을 받는 것도 좋은 방법입니다. 이렇게 하면 유튜브 영어 공부를 통해 자신감을 높이고, 최종적으로는 자연스럽게 대화에 참여할 수 있습니다.
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