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Hello everybody.
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Welcome back to another episode of our This or That podcast.
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With me, Rob.
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And me, Dahlia, hello.
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Hello.
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How are you doing, Dahlia?
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I'm very well.
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Can't think of anything interesting as normal.
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Terrible host.
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Aww.
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That's okay.
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It's okay.
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I have this with my students quite often where I always ask them that kind of thing.
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Anything new?
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Anything interesting that's happened in the last week?
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And they're like, no. Yeah, exactly.
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And I'm like, oh, that's okay.
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That's...
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To be honest, it's not like.. my life is not an exciting cavalcade of adventure and mischief.
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Exactly.
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So, I do have one thing though.
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Recently, I went shooting.
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Shooting guns.
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Are you serious?
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Last week it was sailing, this week it's shooting.
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What's next week?
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Axe throwing?
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I have done axe throwing before, but this time it's gonna.. the one afterwards it will probably be glamping.
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Oh, nice, nice.
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Right.
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So the shooting was a new place has opened in my city, where you can go to an indoor shooting range.
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And, you know, It uses.. what we call BBs.
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You know what BBs are?
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Oh yes, I have been in the vicinity of teenage boys before, so I know what a BB gun is, and I know to stay well away from them. And cats.
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They used to shoot cats as well, which is awful.
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Cats used to shoot BB guns at you.
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It is rough around Manchester, I tell you.
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So don't go there everyone.
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So how to describe ball bearing?
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Ball bearings or BBs?
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Teeny tiny...
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Plastic bullets.
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Teeny tiny...
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is it plastic?
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I thought it was metal.
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No, well these are plastic.
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Okay.
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But because they're shot at such high speed they can really hurt you, can't they?
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Absolutely.
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You have to wear like eye protection the entire time.
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I wear glasses apparently that's not eye protection.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, so I put another layer of glass in front of my eyes to make things better.
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And then they are gas powered.
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So you pick up these guns, which are replicas of real...
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death machines and you...
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Death machines!
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And yeah, you shoot them and
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when you pull the trigger to make it fire then you get a burst of like really concentrated kind of like air,
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and that makes the BB fly really fast.
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So I was doing shooting stuff with my wife and against my wife and by myself with a rifle and a pistol.
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And it was wonderful.
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Amazing.
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I mean, I haven't done shooting, but I have done archery and I absolutely loved it.
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It's, this is the modern version.
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Okay.
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The modern version of archery.
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I have done archery.
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I have an archery set at home, which we never use and I really should because we've got a big target.
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We've got all the stuff we need and I love archery. So...
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You have an archery set at home.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah, it's like 10 pounds from Amazon or something you can get.
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Really?
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Wow.
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the end of them.
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But when I got them for Christmas, and the whole family played with them and had so much fun.
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Oh my god, sounds great.
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It was great, so recommend that next time.
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Students, if you're looking for a gift for the person who has everything, I suggest an archery set.
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Thank you.
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Just for it to get dusty in their loft.
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Yes, absolutely.
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So, today we have a this and we do also have a that.
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The 'this' is cooking at home.
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And the that is ordering takeout or eating out after having a long day.
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Yeah.
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Should we do...
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we've come up with this new idea where we should guess what the other person is going to pick.
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Yeah.
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I don't think it's going to be hard.
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No. So, do you want to guess what I would pick, Dahlia?
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Yes, I think you would pick eating at home.
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Absolutely not.
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No. Really?
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No, absolutely not, because I do that all the time.
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So no, I picked the interesting one.
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No, I'm just trying to be contrarian there.
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Yeah, I cook at home almost all the time.
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Yeah, me too.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Now...
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Stupid question.
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Why do we always cook at home, Dahlia?
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Why aren't we always going out for dinner or getting takeout?
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Money, money, money.
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That's why.
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Money, money, money.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I do like eating out sometimes, of course.
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But yeah, I have a lot to say on this topic, I think.
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I actually don't cook as much as I used to because it just takes up so much time, even though I do love cooking.
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And I do definitely think, of course, like when you've had a hard day, especially if you have children or something like that, or you're commuting.
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like takeaways is just the best um but i personally don't find it
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that convenient unless you're unless you do it habitually
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and you've already got the app and you've already you know your card details
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and you know what you're going to order it's fine But A, you have to choose.
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B, you have to wait.
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And then C, I'm obsessed with recycling, so I won't just chuck stuff away.
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I have to rinse all that plastic stuff and put it in the recycling.
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So I don't actually find it that much more convenient than cooking, to be honest.
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I understand that.
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I hadn't really thought about the convenience of cooking getting the food delivered.
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But I made a point to...
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to my wife before that, weirdly, going out for dinner, is actually quite a lot of work.
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I said to her, "Okay, so we're tired and we feel like, oh God, I'm tired.
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I don't want to do all this cooking
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because I've got to go all the way to the fridge
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and then I've got to get something out of the fridge
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and then I've got to put it on the side
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and then I've got to do it and so on and so on." But weirdly, if I say, "Do you want to walk 20 minutes
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and then 20 minutes back to go to a restaurant and then wait and stuff like that?"
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do that it's like the uh binging thing isn't it
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if you say to someone um will you watch a two
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-hour film they'd be like no no no no no i haven't got time
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but will you watch four hours of you know episode after episode without even realizing it
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and that's what we do same thing absolutely yeah so i think the money thing is a big thing.
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My understanding, because I don't know Korea very well, my understanding is that it is quite a lot cheaper in Korea to get food delivered or to go out to dinner.
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And the system's better.
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I think in Korea they even have services where they drop off everything, everything's pre -made and you just have to kind of put it in the pot
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and then you can leave the stuff outside your door and then they'll come and pick it up.
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I think people don't realize how expensive it is to
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eat out in the UK because it's not that I don't want to spend the money, like it's not that I'm
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sometimes I think it's just not that worth it really unless it's something
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that you really love and you know is really good quality
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so I don't know this for certain it's just something
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that I had heard but some uh something is that
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if you go to a restaurant in the UK one third
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of the money you are paying to eat the food is
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actually paying for the food itself two thirds of the money
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the markup uh the markup and well included within
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that is all the costs of running the the building in
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which the restaurant is the electricity the gas and so forth so you could very much argue, by definition, eating food out
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in just a pure money sense of it is not worth
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it not at all yeah it's about it's three times as
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much as it technically should be to have the to have the food
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but another point that some of my friends make to me about this is
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that you're not exactly paying for the food the food's there
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but what the real value of going to eat out is atmosphere atmosphere
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and the opportunity to have a to have a conversation with
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your whoever yeah socializing this is something i think about You know, I've mentioned this YouTube channel, Subway Takes, where this guy asks for people's hot takes,
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you know, like controversial opinions.
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Mine would be that actually, and I don't, I'm not advocating for this because obviously I love eating out,
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who doesn't, but eating out and drinking out financially is actually pretty crazy we're
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so used to it that I don't think we realize it
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but it's actually kind of ridiculous just how much we pay like
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if you actually sat down and thought about it and compared that to how much food costs in the shops it's
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kind of ridiculous but i'm not saying we shouldn't do it because when you don't eat out ever or go out
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It's very socially isolating.
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This is true.
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This is true.
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And you could argue that, like, you know...
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socializing with the right people is worth a huge amount.
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The kind of thing that I like, although I don't do it very often,
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is I much prefer the option of having friends over and cooking something at home for my friends.
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There's obviously a lot more effort involved in that, but I like the...
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aspect that if you're doing that at home, then you can do whatever you want.
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Yeah.
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You know, you can...
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If you guys decide, okay, we're going to now go and we're going to do something else, you can't do that in the restaurant.
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And, you know, we can be...
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extremely loud and socially unacceptable which probably we shouldn't i do in restaurants anyway
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but i probably shouldn't the thing i'm picturing right now i have the perfect example of this
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when i first moved in to my flat on my own
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obviously it was an amazing thing i was like this is incredible
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and i had my friend over and i cooked for him
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and i had that exact experience i just remember turning the lights off
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and i had this i have this colored light because i love the red light at
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different color options there's pink there's green
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and i didn't realize there's a kind of disco option like you know it flashes different colors
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which actually stressed me out in the end so i turned
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that on and i'm really you know i'm really into music
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so the music really matters to me turn the music up
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and i could control the playlist
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and then we started like dancing in the living room
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and i remember saying to him that exact thing i was like god
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if we were in a restaurant we couldn't do this
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and it was such a great feeling i was like we
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can just do whatever we want here however you know what night as well.
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Stayed up till 2am doing the washing up.
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Life has its ups and downs, you know.
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Because I made this really elaborate meal, which was amazing, of course.
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We had all these different dishes and it was great.
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And I was literally up till 2am doing the washing up.
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And I said to myself, never again.
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Well, I mean, That is true.
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I mean, the thing that I kind of skipped over a little bit in my idea of having friends over is,
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yeah, you have to clean the whole house and you have to do all the washing up afterwards and...
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and all of those things.
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Whereas if I go out to dinner, obviously I don't have to think about any of that.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And you know, when you, other people make food often it's much better than what you can do.
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Like I can't, I don't have a clay, you know, pizza oven.
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I can't make Italian pizza.
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This is true.
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So sometimes it is worth it.
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I guess so.
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I guess so.
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I mean, I think I'm right in saying
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I had a student the other day who said they're not drawn to food at all.
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Like they really don't care like whether something is tasty or not.
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I can relate to it a small amount.
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I do get it.
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Some people, it's just a practical, it's just a means to an end like survival.
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Yes, absolutely.
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So sometimes I feel a little bit like that.
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And maybe for that reason, it's much easier for me to be like, oh, I don't feel like, oh, I really, really need to go out for food.
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And, you know, I want this food so much, so I'm going to go out and get it.
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I don't often feel that way.
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Sometimes you just got to eat, even if it's not the right food, even if it's not that nice, even if it's yesterday's leftovers.
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But I did hear a great tip with leftovers, because, you know, leftovers are always the thing, right?
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We know we should eat them because it's sensible and I never waste food.
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So I heard a good tip that with leftovers, you should try and make it into a another meal, make it into something else.
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Yes.
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Which is, makes it feel like a different thing.
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But then you have to be careful, because then when you add things to it, you then can't eat all of that.
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And then you have leftovers, and it's, you have this, like, eternal, endless leftovers.
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That's happened to me.
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I don't know what to do about that.
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I just eat the leftovers as they are.
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I just heat it up and eat it.
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Yeah, I do that too sometimes.
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You gotta do it.
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I don't know.
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I mean, just as a bit of a guide, maybe this is useful.
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I don't know if it's similar.
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in Korea or not, but I kind of figured out when I used to live in China that on average, going out to dinner in the UK was about 10 times as expensive.
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as going out and having food.
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Yeah, it's crazy.
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Yeah.
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So when people here are always really expensive to go out and get food in the UK,
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that's a little bit of a guide to how expensive we're actually talking about.
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Yeah.
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And I find it, to be honest, sometimes it really affects me because there are multiple times when I'm out and I do try to be really organized.
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Like I do try to take a sandwich if I know I'm going to get on the bus or whatever.
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But like this time, I just went on a long trip
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and I just didn't have time to be as organized as I would like because I went on
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And there's just sometimes nothing to eat.
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Like you just, you have to go to Greg's, which is like a little takeaway place, but the food is all, it's quite expensive.
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Even a sandwich is four pounds and it's not that healthy.
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Like it's sausage rolls and pizzas and there's nothing really else to eat apart from sandwiches.
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And it's just very impractical sometimes.
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It's like either go out for a 35 quid meal or eat a sausage roll.
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Absolutely, there's very little in between.
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Okay.
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So, we've complained a good amount about eating out, which is good.
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So, this time we both picked the same one, which is cooking at home.
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So, interestingly, I wonder whether our students would pick the same.
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I'm not sure they would.
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Probably not.
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Yeah, probably not.
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We would love to hear in the comments which you would pick
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and why going out to eat food is way better than cooking at home.
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Absolutely.
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I hope everyone listening is having a wonderful day, and we will see you in the next episode.
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Take care.
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Ta -ra.
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Ta -ra.

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