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Ready ?
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On est bon ?
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J'ai passé une partie de l'après-midi avec Zendaya et Tom Holland.
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J'adore ça !
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Et on était en pleine canicule.
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Dans cette interview exclusive, on a parlé de leur début.
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Vous devez se développer très rapidement.
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C'est bien de faire ça, donc vous savez, aller à la promesse.
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Ils m'ont partagé des anecdotes.
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Pourquoi vous avez appris ça ?
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Discuté de leur travail.
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Si vous ne travaillez pas, vous allez aller à la travail.
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Parce que c'est fun !
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Mais aussi comment chacun voyait l'autre.
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Il est très.. je ne sais pas comment...
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Il est...
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Qu'est ce...
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C'est...
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C'est génial.
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Yes, so many great words out there.
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This interview is also available in audio podcast.
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Don't forget to subscribe to the channel, but it's not yet done.
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Spider-Man, a brand new day, it's coming on the 29th of the cinema.
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Good video to all.
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When you work in the business, when you start as young as we did, you have to grow up really quickly.
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You've got to learn how to set boundaries for yourself and learn how to be an adult, really.
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One of the reasons why I struggled so much at school, I think, is because I was in a professional environment, I was treated like an adult, I was working like an adult,
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and then I went back to school and felt like I didn't fit in
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because all of my peers were kind of behaving like their age.
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There's nothing wrong with that.
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I was just a little grown up like, I'm just gonna do as I'm told because that's what the teacher's saying.
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So yeah, it definitely shapes who you are for sure.
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That's especially something, Tom, you were training for Billy Elliot at the time and I've heard that, you know, and you've said that some kids
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when you were training for Billy Elliot sort of used to make fun of like you dancing and everything.
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Of course, years later you did so many things, you did Spider-Man and so many things.
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Do you have a message maybe for like little boys
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or little girls who are afraid to follow their passion because of this social pressure that might exist?
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Yeah, I mean, it's so much easier said than done to kind of block out the haters.
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You know, I think that it's something that, you know, even today is something that I know that we work on and our peers work on.
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And, you know, we've been dealing with things like that for a long time.
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But it's important to find your community and find your tribe and the people that you feel comfortable with.
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And most importantly, the people that you feel comfortable being yourself with.
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You know, expressing yourself is something to be really proud of.
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And whether that's dance or art or acting or sport or, you know, or reading books, whatever it is.
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You know, if you find your group of people where you can be yourself with, then, you know, you'll always find happiness.
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Because I think that's also something, I guess, young people struggling with the social pressure often see people like you and they're like, oh, they managed it.
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They managed to deal with that social pressure.
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They managed to go through all of this.
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And I guess also some people sometimes wonder if that social pressure sort of turns down in a way through the years.
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Or if, no, it's always there.
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Sometimes it's even bigger, but you just have to live with it and cope with it.
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Yeah, I think it's always there.
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It's always present.
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Yeah.
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I think it's just about the skills
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that you develop to like to know better you know it's like know better do better
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but yeah it's funny because i think that
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that like without trying to be like oh let's bring it back to the movie
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but it is so much about what peter's going through you know um
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and you know to like sum it up
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or make a joke about it is like work-life balance you
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know it's like who am i am i like betraying myself by worrying about all the pressures
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and the things that i i have to live live up to
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or who I'm trying to protect or who I'm trying to take care of?
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Am I ultimately doing a disservice because I can't do my best work if I'm not taking care of myself?
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I think we all do that sometimes.
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I think there is such an importance of, like you're saying, having a community,
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having friends, having people to lean on and support you through things.
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Life is hard sometimes, you know?
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Like we need other human beings to get through it, so.
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And you can just have bad days sometimes for no reason.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That doesn't have to be something.
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It just be like that.
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Yeah, it doesn't have to be for any particular reason.
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Sometimes I just wake up, I'm like, ooh, I want to go back to bed and I'll start again tomorrow.
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You've been playing those roles, MJ, Peter Parker, for a few years now.
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Does coming back to a Spider-Man movie feel like coming home something you're used to now?
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Yeah, I really think it does, you know.
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Our jobs and our, you know, we're really blessed in our careers that there's like real variation.
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And sometimes our variation can be quite scary.
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But then coming back to a character that you know and love and that you've played, you know, really since we were kids is a really lovely privilege.
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Even on set, you know, there's such a warm familial vibe.
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And I think it's funny because Destin, obviously this is our first film with him, and it feels like we've known him like our whole lives.
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You know, he's like an older brother, a cousin, like it feels like a true— He fit right into the family right away.
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So it's been really, really special.
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That's great.
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That's also something, Tom, when of course you were announced as the new Spider-Man, everyone was like, oh, he's the new Spider-Man.
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Now a few years have gone by.
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Do you still feel like yourself, you're the new Spider-Man?
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You're like, no, I'm Spider-Man myself.
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And I assume this for all of you.
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I do want to say too, like literally my mom was there.
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Well, those days that we were seeing, remember that scene?
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My mom was there and she was crying.
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Oh, yeah.
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Watching us.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Why did you bring that up?
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No, because I was saying it's like a family event.
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Oh, my mom was literally on set.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Following that, yeah.
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Yeah, my mom came.
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Oh, yeah.
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I was bringing her mom to work day.
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So she was there laughing, crying.
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She was used to like...
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She really dove in the deep end.
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She sat down and was like, what are you shooting today?
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We were like, buckle up, right?
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Yeah, this is a tough day for her.
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This is a big day.
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Sorry.
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Just to...
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No, no, no. It's interesting to me.
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Like it's something important for you, yeah.
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Do I feel like the new Spider-Man?
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Not anymore, no. You know, Spider-Man, it's almost like harder to remember a time where we weren't making these movies, if you know what I mean.
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The thing that I am really excited for is like figuring out what happens next, you know, and who do we pass the baton on to and,
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you know, what does that look like?
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I think that's a really exciting question and something
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that I really hope I get to be a part of and I'm very excited about it.
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That's great.
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And why do you think Spider-Man is such a cultural icon for so many generations?
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It's like young boys and girls today, but it's also like older generations.
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How do you explain that Spider-Man is that huge and that big for so many people in their lives?
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I guess for me, it's always been that he felt, I mean, I hate to say the word relatable, but he feels the most like someone that you know.
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Normal guy, yeah.
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You know, he's just that friend that everybody would really want to have.
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He feels like he could be your brother, your cousin, your, you know, whatever.
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And there's so many qualities, I think, that he has that hopefully we all strive to have inside of ourselves as well.
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And it makes us feel like we all could.
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Like, if Peter can do it, we can do it.
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And I think that uniqueness in the fact that he is so normal
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makes him feel so special to so many people and feel like he is a part of their family.
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He is someone that, you know, and I feel like we feel that way for sure.
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But that's what I think, at least.
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We've seen you in the drama, which was amazing.
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We've seen you, of course, in Emporia, Spider-Man, there's the Odyssey with both of you in a few weeks.
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Dune, of course, coming back.
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I can't wait for the next Dune.
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It's going to be great.
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It's going to be so crazy.
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And how do you manage to keep up this rhythm with like such amazing movies, but with, you know, different roles?
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I mean, that's not the same role in Spider-Man that it'll be in June or in the drama.
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It's so different.
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How do you manage to keep up with this?
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And, you know, how do you avoid burnout or like those challenges you can face?
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Um, I think I've gotten lucky because I get to do it with people that I really care about.
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And I've also just been, you know, blessed with really special characters and crews that I really love.
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I think a huge part of our job and what, you know, brings me my own social life is like having great crews.
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And you end up kind of building these little families and every kind of crew you work on.
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Specifically like Euphoria, like they've seen me since I was a kid going through, they've seen me in all the ways, you know what I mean?
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I don't know if I've necessarily figured anything out or if I have a clear answer or anything, but I just really love what I do do
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and I love my job and
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so you know the actual creative part of making it doesn't
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always feel like a job you know it some days you're like okay we're ready to clock out you know
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but most of the time it's a joy like if
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if I'll go to set
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if I'm not shooting all the time I just want to
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be around sets I want to you know watch everyone work
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I want to learn I love I just love the process of making And she really does do that too.
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Like if you're not working, you will go to work.
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Yeah, because it's fun.
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I mean, I remember like they were shooting this incredible opening sequence for Dune, and I was like, you know, is it cool if I just...
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I was there early in Budapest, and it was cold, and they had this crazy setup, and I was like, I got to see this.
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Like, I want to see this, you know?
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So it's just cool.
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It's just cool as a fan alone, you know, it's just cool to be able to watch.
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And by the way, I think it's interesting for you to say that, like, yeah, sometimes you don't have everything figured out.
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And I feel like it's also refreshing for probably people who are watching this interview to understand that like, yeah, you can be hugely successful in your career and everything
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and still like struggle in some aspects
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and like we'll still ask yourself all those questions
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so i feel like it's super inspiring a few words now
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about um mj your role of course in the movie mj
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feel like she's not only the love interest in the in the movie she's way more than
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that i was wondering um was it something
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that you sort of consciously you know fought for as an actor is it the way of course this
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and then all the look at it and sees it.
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The fact that she's not just the love interest in movies, she's way more than that.
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Well, it's been cool
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because I think John had a very clear perspective from the
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beginning about his interpretation of what MJ was gonna be in our Spider-Man movies.
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And he kind of took some big swings and I was excited to be a part of that.
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I think giving her a very unique sense of humor and personality and very strong sense of self.
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I think although maybe sometimes different from the comic books, there are a lot of things that, you know, I do feel that MJ is a very confident personality,
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you know, in herself.
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And in our own way, our MJ is that too.
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And it was nice to kind of speak to Destin
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because now we're maturing and learning new things about the character
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and developing her in a way and trying to understand her at a mature point in her life, but also still holding on those core elements that we built from previous movies.
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And it was fun to blend those things.
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And I remember my first chat with Destin, he was just like, so tell me all the things
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that you've ever wanted to do or were hoping and maybe didn't make it to other movies.
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And I feel like this is...
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You got it.
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Okay, it went away.
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This is probably one of the, you know, I guess the most we've been able to explore and to really try things with this character,
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I think at least.
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I think so too.
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It's also something we often hear that playing a character long enough eventually makes you resemble them.
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Is there something of Peter or MJ that you've absorbed yourself in your daily life?
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I think everyone that's worked on these movies could say that there's a part of Peter Parker in them.
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His positivity is something that I think is infectious.
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Especially in the way that we make the movies.
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The film sets are such happy, fun places and everyone gets along
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and we do the work with a smile on our face and everyone's always laughing all the time.
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It's just such a really, it's such a happy place.
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I think that the character brings that out in everyone.
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And you, about MJ, do you feel like you're close to MJ in a way? Of course.
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I think it's very rare that you get to live with a character this long.
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Usually we only, you know, you just have one movie or you know, you, I don't know, it's It's more brief, your interaction with your character,
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and you don't have 10 years that you get to live with them and really form this connection with these characters.
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And also the fans who also love them and care for them in the ways that we do.
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So yeah, I definitely think I have some MJ-ness.
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And it's funny, it was funny trying to, after five years or however long it's been, or six years, going, oh, where is she?
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to find her again and and find in fact there was a like a little
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when we first got to set well you first got set you were working before i was
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and i had a like a week off of dune
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and i came to visit for your first week of work
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and i was reading through the script
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and i remember being in the tent with justin keritskis who
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came on um spider-man to kind of really figure out some nuance of the character
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and we he's a dear friend of ours um
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because he we did challengers together and we we were just talking about how I can add in some more MJ-ness,
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you know, because we had built this kind of quirky character, and I was like, I feel like she's just not weird enough.
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You know, we need to do a little MJ pass and bring some of that back.
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It's also something, Peter Parker gives up a sort of a normal life in order to save the world
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and save many people.
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What's the biggest sacrifice you'd say you've made, whether it's your own life or in your career?
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Cool, that's a tough question.
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I don't know how I could answer.
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I'd have to really think about that.
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Is it like, yeah, because it could be something specific.
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It can be like in your daily life, in your way of, I don't know.
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It's hard because, you know,
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so much of it is a blessing and a gift and I wouldn't give it back or I wouldn't trade for anything.
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And I don't want to, you know, you don't want to seem like you're complaining.
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It has a negative connotation.
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And I don't think that we're in any position to be complaining about the sacrifices we've made when people make real sacrifices.
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It's more like a choice you made.
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So, you know.
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Yeah.
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Well, I will say like, and I wouldn't say it's a sacrifice, but like maybe being really young and being in this industry,
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I think is sometimes a little bit of a, yeah, sure.
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There's, you know, it would have been nice.
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It's going to be a weird one at times.
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It could be a weird one.
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It would have been nice to like, you know, go to prom and maybe not have, you know, those embarrassing videos of yourself when you're a kid and you haven't really figured it out.
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Not that I ever have, but, you know, it would be nice.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, you got to live with something.
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What's the best advice Tom has ever given you in the year?
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And the other way around, what's the best advice you received Tom?
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I think something I am always impressed with Tom about, which I feel like I want to inherit more of, but he's very...
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I don't know how to...
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He's...
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What's the...
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Awesome?
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Legendary.
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Yeah, so many great words.
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But you really stand on your big stickler for respect and kindness,
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and not to say that I'm not doing that, but I just...
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Super respectful.
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But you just make sure that that is in the front, and then if that line is crossed,
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I think sometimes he's better at drawing boundaries and making things clear.
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And I'm a little bit more like, okay, guys, you know, it's all right, everything's all right, you know what I mean
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and you're good at being like no no this is we're
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not doing this you know yeah you're you're good at like setting the boundaries really clearly really strong
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and i'm like kind of like i'll put the boundaries like hey guys can we just you know
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if that's okay if i could just put the boundary there okay we're good we're good you know
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so i like
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that you you have you know you really know what you feel is right for yourself
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and you and you do it and for others you're very like protective in that way.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate that.
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What did you the other way around?
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How would you see it?
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Speaking of boundaries, I'm not going to share my most valuable piece of advice I got.
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That's great.
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That's a perfect example for this question.
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To end this interview, we've got two for each of you, a sort of a 60 second format.
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The idea, I think we did it at the time for June is like I'll ask him some questions
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and you can answer yes, no or pass if you want to pass, no problem.
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Are you ready?
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I love this.
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Was Spider-Man your favorite superhero when you were a kid?
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Yes.
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Is New York the best city in the world to be a superhero?
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Yes.
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Would you like to be able to teleport?
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Yes.
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Would you rather spend a year in ancient Greece than in the multiverse?
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What kind of Am I a prosperous person in Ancient Greece?
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That's a nice answer.
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But also, aren't we living the multiverse, really?
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That's a...
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Well, we don't really... Who knows?
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We don't know.
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We could be in it now.
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I think it'd be pretty cool to go and sit down with, you know...
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I'm good on that.
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The great thinkers, what are those guys?
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The great philosophers?
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Why can't I think of their names?
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That's why I need to sit down with them.
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I'd go to Ancient Greece for a year, that'd be cool.
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Love it.
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Peter Parker survive Odysseus journey?
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Oh, yeah.
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Did you cry at the end of...
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Helpful.
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Did you cry at the end of shooting No Way Home?
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Yes.
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Is Peter Parker the most relatable superhero?
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Yes.
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Could you direct a Marvel film one day?
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Yes.
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We could.
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If you wanted to, you could.
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Yeah, I guess I could.
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Totally could.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Great.
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Would you do a fifth Spider-Man without hesitation?
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Pass.
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Okay.
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Maybe two or three to finish.
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We're about to talk about football.
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Could you survive without football for a month?
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Yeah.
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Is PSG the best European team?
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No. Okay.
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Is England winning the World Cup in your lifetime?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Well, I don't know when it's going to be published, but we'll have to follow this.
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I don't know if we have time for the other one.
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Yeah, very quickly.
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Okay, very quick.
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Let's go.
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Is MJ smarter than Spider-Man? In some ways, yes.
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In some ways, yes.
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Is comedy harder than drama?
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Ooh.
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Yes.
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Could you ever play a villain in the Marvel Universe?
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I don't know about that.
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Would you trust Peter Parker with a secret?
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Yeah.
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Would you rather have Spider-Man's powers than Doctor Stranger's?
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Ooh.
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Eee.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Not sure about that one.
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I feel like you could do a lot with Doctor Strange's powers.
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You could do a lot.
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Which is also like, do I want that much?
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like maybe I should just, you know what I mean, be super strong and...
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Could be something.
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Did the Spider-Man set feel like home after three movies?
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Yes.
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Would you rather travel to the future rather than the past?
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I don't know.
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Both are kind of, I don't know.
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Oh, I don't know.
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That's a good question.
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I'm kind of scared of traveling in the future.
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That's an easy question for you, Sam.
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Yeah.
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That's great.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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That was a great interview.
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Some really thoughtful questions.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for taking the time.
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Good to see you again.
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Thank you again.
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Good to see you again.
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| Palavra | Pronúncia | Significado |
|---|---|---|
| boundary substantivo | /ˈbaʊndɹi/ | fronteira |
| dune substantivo | /djuːn/ | duna |
| superhero substantivo | /ˈs(j)upɚhɪɹoʊ/ | super-herói |
| multiverse substantivo | /ˈmʌltəˌvɝs/ | multiverso |
| relatable adjetivo | [ɹɪˈleɪ.tə.bɫ̩] | relacionável |
| variation substantivo | /ˌvɛəɹiˈeɪʃn̩/ | variação |
| peer substantivo | /pɪɹ/ | par |
| advantageous adjetivo | /ˌædvənˈteɪd͡ʒ(i)əs/ | vantajoso |
| anecdote substantivo | /ˈæn.ɪkˌdəʊt/ | anedota |
| betray verbo | /bɪˈtɹeɪ/ | trair |
| burnout substantivo | /ˈbɜː(ɹ)naʊt/ | esgotamento |
| connotation substantivo | /ˌkɑnəˈteɪʃən/ | conotação |
| disservice substantivo | /dɪ(s)ˈsɝvɪs/ | desserviço |
| embarrass verbo | /ɪmˈbæɹəs/ | embaraçar |
| excite verbo | /ɪkˈsaɪt/ | animar, empolgar |
Phrasal verbs que você vai ouvir
| Palavra | Significado |
|---|---|
| figure out verbo | descobrir, deduzir |
| grow up verbo | crescer |
| come back verbo | voltar |
| end up verbo | terminar, acabar |
| get along verbo | dar-se bem, dar-se |
| give up verbo | render-se |
| go away verbo | sair, partir |
| keep up verbo | manter |
Frases que vale a pena repetir
Frases curtas e completas do vídeo que você pode usar na conversa do dia a dia:
- Why did you bring that up?
- How do you manage to keep up with this?
- What did you the other way around?
- How would you see it?
- Why can't I think of their names?
Gramática neste vídeo
As estruturas que o falante mais usa, com as palavras exatas do vídeo:
| Estrutura | No vídeo |
|---|---|
| Present perfect continuous have/has been + -ing — uma ação que começou antes e continua | we've been dealing · You've been playing |
| Present perfect have/has + particípio passado — uma ação passada que ainda importa agora | I've heard · you've played · we've known |
| Voz passiva be + particípio passado — o foco está no que acontece, não em quem faz | was treated · were announced · is crossed |
| Orações relativas who / which + oração — informação extra sobre uma pessoa ou coisa | drama, which was · people who are |
Pronúncia para ficar de olho
O falante usa 109 contrações e formas reduzidas, como don't, I'm, you're. Diga-as na forma curta, do jeito que você ouve.
- Os sons de “th”: thinker /ˈθɪŋ.kɚ/, thoughtful /ˈθɔːtfəl/, rhythm /ˈɹɪð.əm/
- Os sons de “sh” e “zh”: variation /ˌvɛəɹiˈeɪʃn̩/, connotation /ˌkɑnəˈteɪʃən/, hesitation /ˌhɛzɪˈteɪʃən/, refresh /ɹɪˈfɹɛʃ/, infectious /ɪnˈfɛk.ʃəs/
- Palavras longas — acerte a sílaba tônica: superhero /ˈs(j)upɚhɪɹoʊ/, advantageous /ˌædvənˈteɪd͡ʒ(i)əs/, connotation /ˌkɑnəˈteɪʃən/, positivity /ˌpɑ.zɪˈtɪv.ɪ.ti/, hesitation /ˌhɛzɪˈteɪʃən/
Sons difíceis para falantes de português:
- Consoante final — sem acrescentar um “i” depois: anecdote /ˈæn.ɪkˌdəʊt/, burnout /ˈbɜː(ɹ)naʊt/, excite /ɪkˈsaɪt/, teleport /ˈtɛləpɔː(ɹ)t/, correspond /ˌkoɹəˈspɑnd/
- /l/ final — a língua toca o céu da boca, não vira “u”: travail /tɹəˈveɪl/, familial /fəˈmɪljəl/, buckle /ˈbʌkəl/, resemble /ɹɪˈzɛmbəl/, thoughtful /ˈθɔːtfəl/
- /h/ — um sopro suave, diferente do “r”: superhero /ˈs(j)upɚhɪɹoʊ/, inherit /ɪnˈhɛɹɪt/, hesitation /ˌhɛzɪˈteɪʃən/, hugely /ˈhjuːd͡ʒli/, humour /ˈhjuːmɚ/
Como praticar com este vídeo
- Ouça o vídeo inteiro uma vez sem falar e anote as palavras que você não conhece.
- Comece na velocidade 0,75×, faça shadowing frase por frase e volte à velocidade normal quando ficar fácil.
- Grave a sua voz e compare com o original, prestando atenção a palavras como boundary, dune, superhero.
O que é a Técnica de Shadowing?
Shadowing é uma técnica de aprendizado de idiomas com base científica, originalmente desenvolvida para o treinamento de intérpretes profissionais. O método é simples, mas poderoso: você ouve áudio em inglês nativo e repete imediatamente em voz alta — como uma sombra seguindo o falante com 1-2 segundos de atraso. Pesquisas mostram melhora significativa na precisão da pronúncia, entonação, ritmo, sons conectados, compreensão auditiva e fluência na fala.