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Trust human beings and trust young people.
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Trust human beings and trust young people.
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Let's take responsibility for today,
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but let's not take away all the solutions for tomorrow.
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It's great human being make mistakes.
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It's great human being learn from mistakes.
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It's great to die.
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Okay, great.
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AI, yeah.
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Actually, I'm told that does AI mean love?
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There's like a name, AI?
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It sort of sounds a bit like love.
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Yeah, AI.
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I hate the word AI called Artificial Intelligence.
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I call it Alibaba Intelligence.
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Yeah.
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Might end up being true.
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You never know.
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I think generally people underestimate the capability of AI capability of AI.
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They sort of think like it's a smart human.
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But it's really much, it's going to be much more than that.
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It'll be much smarter than the smartest human.
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It'll be like, can a chimpanzee really understand humans?
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Not really.
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We just seem like strange aliens.
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They mostly just care about other chimpanzees.
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And this will be how it is,
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more or less, in a relative.
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In fact, if the difference is only that small, that would be amazing.
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Probably it's much, much greater.
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I mean, I really think that there should be other companies like Neuralink,
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essentially to create a high bandwidth interface to the brain.
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Because right now, we are already a cyborg.
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People don't realize we are already a cyborg.
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Because we are so well integrated with our phones and our computers,
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the phone is almost like an extension of yourself.
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If you forget your phone,
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it's like a missing limb.
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But the bandwidth, the communication bandwidth to the phone is very low, especially input.
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So in fact, input bandwidth to computers has actually gone down because of typing with two thumbs
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as opposed to 10 fingers is a big reduction in bandwidth.
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Input bandwidth has gone up because of video and imagery.
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So input bandwidth is many orders of magnitude greater than output bandwidth.
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But at a certain point,
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assuming a benign scenario with AI,
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we will just be too slow.
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I think AI is going to open a new chapter of the society of the world
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that people try to understand ourselves better rather than the outside world.
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And it's so difficult to predict the future.
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99.99% of the predictions that human being had in history about the future all wrong.
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Including that one?
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Oh yeah.
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Only, you know, the 0.00% of the prediction are right.
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They're right because by accident.
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Yeah, but it's also true that 80% of statistics are false.
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Yeah.
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So my meaning is that...
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Old room, come on, guys.
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It was a joke.
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My meaning is that I'm happy about the artificial intelligence or Alibaba intelligence that's going to understand a human,
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the inside of the human better.
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So when people worry a lot about artificial intelligence,
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people should have more confidence in themselves.
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Because I think if a lot of solutions we don't have today,
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but there will be solutions tomorrow,
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we don't have solutions, but the young people will have solutions.
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So I'm quite optimistic.
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And I don't think artificial intelligence is a threat.
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I don't think artificial intelligence is something terrible.
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But human beings are smart enough to learn that.
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And to me, artificial intelligence is just like,
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people worry a lot about this today.
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Those people, I call them college smartness.
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People like us, street smart,
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we're never scared of that.
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We think it's a great fun,
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and we want to change ourselves to embrace it.
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I don't know, man.
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That's like famous last words.
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Let me tell you, AI is,
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I mean, you look at sort of the rate of advancement.
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Just in general, the rate of advancement of computers is insane.
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A good example would be video games.
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If you go back 40 years ago,
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50 years ago, maybe, you had Pong.
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That was just two rectangles and a square.
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Now you've got photorealistic real-time simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously.
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If you assume any rate of improvement at all,
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these games will be indistinguishable from reality.
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You will not be able to tell the difference.
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Either that or civilization will end.
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Those are the two options.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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Well, let's talk about something fun.
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I admire that you want to go on the Mars.
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Shall we go to the Mars?
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Yeah.
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Yes, so what will the life look like on Mars?
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Are you both moving?
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What do you think about that?
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Actually, I'm not interested in Mars.
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I just came back from there, so...
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I'm more interested on the Earth,
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the things, what's going on happening here.
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So why are you so curious about Mars?
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Among the set of actions we can take that are likely to increase the scope and scale of consciousness
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such that we are better able to understand the nature of the universe.
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One of those actions is to become a multi-planet species or ensure that life is multi-planetary.
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Not because I think something that...
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It's not from the standpoint of it just being an escape hatch or because I think that Earth is doomed,
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but there's a certain probability that is irreducible that something may happen to Earth.
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Despite our best intentions, despite everything we try to do,
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there's a probability at a certain point that some either external force
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or some internal unforced error causes civilization to be destroyed
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or sufficiently impaired such that it can no longer extend to another planet.
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This is the first time in the four
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and a half billion year history of Earth that it's been possible to extend life beyond Earth.
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Before this, it was not possible.
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How long will this window be open?
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It may be open for a long time or it may be open for a short time.
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I think it would be wise to assume that it is open for a short time.
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And then let us secure the future of consciousness such that the light of consciousness is not extinguished.
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And we should try to do this as quickly as possible.
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That's my view.
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It's so difficult to secure the future of the Earth,
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but we can secure the future of next 100 years.
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I am not a person that I admire your courage to explore the Mars,
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but I admire a lot of people spend efforts on improving the Earth.
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It's great to send 1 million people to the Mars,
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but we have to care about the 7.4 billion people on the Earth.
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How can we make the world is more sustainable and I'm not
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that fun of the Mars because I think it's easy to go to the Mars
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when you go on the top of the hills of the building just a one step you go to Mars
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but we will never be able to come back yeah that's my head works though
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and we cannot solve all the problems for future
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but we have to be responsible for the future but we should care more about how how we can enjoy better.
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My view is that by the artificial intelligence or AI,
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when human beings understand ourselves better,
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then we can improve the world better.
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Last 200 years human being tried to understand the other side were better understand the other people better.
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To be clear I'm very pro-earth
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when I say you know us becoming a multi-planet species
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or making life multi extending life beyond earth expanding the scope
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and scale of consciousness from a resource standpoint I'm talking about
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less than 1% of Earth's resources should be dedicated to making life multi-planetary
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or making consciousness multi-planetary
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so you know I think it should be like somewhere in between how much we spend on lipstick
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and how much we spend on healthcare like
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that you know things like for the preservation of consciousness we
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should spend maybe slightly more than we spend on on cosmetics that's my you know
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and I'm pro cosmetics I like it they're great But,
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you know, there's probably worth spending,
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I don't know, like at least half a percent of Earth's GDP on extending life to be multi-planetary.
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Maybe one percent, I'd say,
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seems like a good use of resources.
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And within 90, you know,
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you have like two orders of magnitude more resources spent on Earth.
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So it's not like it's,
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you know, somehow going to fundamentally impair Earth.
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If, like I said, just 1% of our three sources on that order should be enough to make life multi-planetary.
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Seems like a wise investment for the future.
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So what new jobs will be created because of AI or has the change already started?
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What do you think?
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I think why we needed that many jobs.
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Sure.
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Right?
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My view is that the jobs,
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actually every technology revolution people start to worry.
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Right?
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200 years we worry about the new technology going to take away all the jobs.
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Actually, we made a lot of jobs.
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Second, because of the industrial revolution,
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jobs created a lot of jobs.
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What I think is the next 20,
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30 years, human beings will live much longer.
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The life science technology is going to make people live probably 100, 120 years.
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That may not be a good thing because you get a grandfather's grandfather still working hard.
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But the challenge is my question,
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why shouldn't we have a lot of jobs?
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I think people should work three days a week, four hours a day.
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At that time, the jobs we need is make people happier,
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make people experience the life, enjoy the human beings.
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What knowledge or skills will be useful to master the future?
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Do you have any advice for young professionals who want to pursue a career in AI?
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Young professionals.
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I don't think we will have professionals on AI in the future.
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Well, I worry a lot about,
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Now, people worry about jobs,
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but I worry about education.
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All the education systems, the things we teach our kids,
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the way we teach our kids,
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are mainly designed for the industrial period.
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And I'm sure the machine will be much cleverer than human beings in the future.
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How can human beings do better?
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Human beings should be smarter.
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Human beings should be wiser.
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So how can we be human beings to be wiser or smarter?
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I think that we should change the way of education, change the things.
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Because in the past, we focused a lot about remember things.
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Computer can remember better than you are.
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We want to calculate faster.
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Computer can calculate much faster.
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We want to run faster.
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Computer can run much faster than you are.
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So human beings should have confidence by being more creative, more constructive.
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So how can we teach our kids to be more creative and constructive?
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And I think this is the key of the education.
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Yeah, I would say try to learn as much as possible that allows you to predict the future or make the future.
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So the saying is the best way to predict the future is to make it.
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And then assess whether what you're learning is enabling you to predict the future with less error.
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Are you less wrong we're all always wrong to some degree but can you reduce the error on your future predictions
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i think that's the way to look at education as of course
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but it's both creative create the future and predict the future
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so that includes art and all those other things but close the loop on being less wrong about future.
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I think the best resources of the human beings on the or the best resources on the earth are not the coal,
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not the oil, not the electricity, it's the human brains.
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How can we make the human brains more creative, constructive?
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How can we making sure that the machines are always the toys and tools of humans rather than the control.
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So I never in my life,
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and especially last two years where people talk about AI,
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say human being will be controlled by machines.
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I never think about that.
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I think it's impossible.
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It's impossible.
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Because human beings, they are different.
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Machines are invented by human beings.
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And according to the science,
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right, humans can never create another animal that is smarter than humans,
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especially when you have so many smart people,
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it's impossible to make another smart people.
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I very much disagree with that.
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OK.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the first thing we should assume is that we are very dumb.
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And we can definitely make things smarter than ourselves.
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I mean, they didn't used to be humans, right?
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So then our early civilization was very primitive.
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We didn't have any technology, really.
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We're just like running around,
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trying to not get eaten,
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or just trying to survive a winter.
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Now we have heating, and we grow food.
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This is all new stuff.
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So things have obviously gotten way more smarter than the past, way smarter.
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So that's going to continue.
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We are not the last step in evolution.
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So the most important thing,
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like I said, the most important mistake I see smart people making is assuming that they're smart.
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It's the not technology change the world.
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It's the dreams behind the technology that changed the world.
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So my hope is that anything we can do is to improve this world,
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to helping 7.4 billion people live better and live healthier.
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Trust the human beings and trust young people.
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Let's take responsibility for today,
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but let's not take away all the solutions for tomorrow.
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It's great human being make mistakes.
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It's great human being learn from mistakes.
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It's great to die.
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Ha ha.
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That's probably true.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, you cannot live long.
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I just like, yeah.
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Thank you.
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Fight for the light of consciousness.
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Thank you.
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