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I've literally never been on air without saying something embarrassing.
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That's the charm of your show, right?
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100% of the times I'm being recorded, I am embarrassing myself.
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Why would you need to be a better human if you were perfect to begin with?
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I'm starting at a very low place.
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Hi, I'm Elise Hu.
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I'm the host of TED Talks Daily.
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Hi, I'm Molly Graham, and I'm the new host of Work Life.
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Hey, I'm Manoush Zomorodi, and I'm the host of NPR's TED Radio Hour.
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Hey, hey, hey, I'm Cheryl Dorsey.
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I'm the host of TED Tech.
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Hi, I'm Chris Duffy, and I'm the host of How to Be a Better Human.
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We are so cute.
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We're like a little band.
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Trying too hard.
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That's so good.
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Oh, no. I believe this.
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Yeah.
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Or please, please stop.
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In good ways.
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Oh, please.
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Please, please stop.
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The person willing to hide the body.
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That is more than three words, that's actually disturbing.
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Hide the body.
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Exhausting, relentless, sparky.
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Ooh.
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Will break you out of a third world prison.
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Wow.
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Oh, you're a good friend.
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Yeah, that's nice.
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Because my best friend would say, always in a drive-through.
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Oh.
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A lot.
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What I've learned is very few members of this audio collective know how to count to three.
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No. And you all speak in prose as well.
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We break rules.
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That's so interesting.
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I'm a bullet pointer.
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Self-healing concrete.
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That's a good one.
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Absolutely fascinating.
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If I will build a city and an army, I'm going to have self-healing concrete.
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That's really cool.
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Okay, mine's a question that was sparked by a talk, which is the wearables guy can measure socialization.
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How do you measure socialization?
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It's listening.
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You haven't done the So it's the amount of time you're not talking?
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Okay, so what you're talking about, sorry, exhausting, relentless, sparky.
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He's my speaker this year, so he has his hearing aids, right?
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Which I assume we can find out are recording all of his conversations and making sure that he's interacting enough with people.
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Welcome to the world where we quantify all conversations.
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That's a transformational idea.
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That is transformational.
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Well, Manoush came on my podcast.
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This episode is not out.
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And we talked about what it's like to be in an industry that just gets disrupted all the time.
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And I think a lot of people are going through that and worrying that they're going to lose their jobs.
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And my takeaway from the episode was, what would you do if you believed your job was always going to exist and always going to be needed,
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needed, but the form it took was going to be really different.
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Ah.
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She's deep.
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I was just talking to a branding guy downstairs who laid
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some wisdom on me before I ran up here to talk to you all, and he said he always tells people what are the five things that you are most proud of doing,
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and then what's going to be the sixth?
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Whoa.
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I know.
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Literally never been on air without saying something embarrassing.
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That's the charm of your show, right?
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100% of the times I'm being recorded, I am embarrassing myself.
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Why would you need to be a better human if you were perfect to begin with?
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I'm starting at a very low place, so we're just trying to get me to zero.
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We cut all mine out.
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I just sound so...
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Editing.
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No, but that's part of it, right? it's like sounding a little like a little bit dumb
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because you want to get the person to explain things to you
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and you can never be sure like what your listener does know
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or doesn't know and so being a little bit embarrassing and and
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and vulnerable it's part of the host job description I really
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hate mispronouncing people's names I think that's where I feel most embarrassed
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because I get pronouncers and then I still have to like read like redo it over and over again, it's like, did your brain not get it the first time?
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Like, let's do it again.
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I also think that a unique thing about Ted's podcasts compared to other podcasts is that they're fact-checked.
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I'm sorry.
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Oh, that's so sad.
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What unique is that?
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Oh, very few other podcasts are fact-checked.
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Really, that's really rare.
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And so most of the things that I'm embarrassed by, listeners never actually hear, but I see in the edit where they're like, you said this very confidently, and that is in no way true.
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So I say a lot of that stuff.
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That's funny.
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I think I've bad-mouthed my husband in episodes.
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And in the end, it got through a fact check.
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I was going back to more of the embarrassing thing, but yes.
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I love the bromance between the tennis professionals, Carlos Alcaraz and Yannick Sinner.
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They are rivals.
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They are fierce rivals, but they're also friends.
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And it's really fascinating to watch their evolution and how they support each other.
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And I just love it.
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I live for that bromance.
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That's so sweet.
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I'm really into sour gummy worms.
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I've been making a lot of French toast casserole.
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Like every weekend, like I learned, the internet taught me.
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And so I make it for the family and I try to outdo myself every time.
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I'm obsessed with that now too.
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Yes.
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Mitochondria, like really into mitochondria.
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Part of the cell?
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Very minutiae answer.
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Okay.
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But you guys, you thought it was the powerhouse of the cell, right?
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It's so much more than that.
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It is sending information.
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And by the way, you get all your mitochondria, the genes of them are only from your mom.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Isn't that crazy?
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So I asked him to.
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It's a matriarchy.
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Yeah, it's a matriarchy.
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That's exactly right.
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It is a matriarchy.
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And it is like when you build muscle, it builds more mitochondria so you have more energy.
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And then it sends it to all the different cells throughout your body.
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I love medicine.
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I know.
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That's fascinating.
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That's good, right?
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That's really cool.
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Yeah.
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There is this amazing TikToker who does a whole bit about how she's the receptionist in heaven.
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And she started it as like a funny thing.
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And then she started getting all these inbound emails for people to do receptionist for someone
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that died and for her to talk.
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And now she's this grief counselor, basically.
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She's writing obits.
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Or performing obits.
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And she wrote a book, and I'm obsessed with her.
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Oh, that's really good.
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We should talk about our favorite creators, or the creators that show up on our feeds the most.
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Yeah, the creator that shows up on my feed a lot, who I really like, is maybe an eight-year-old boy.
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I don't mean that in a creepy way.
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His name is Easy Peasy Jordan.
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And he cooks, and all his meals are cooked in a rice cooker.
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It's really amazing.
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Kids who cook are fascinating.
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Easy Peasy Jordan, check it out.
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Mine is SB Mowing, and he clears overgrown lawns.
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Oh, yeah.
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Very satisfying.
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Huge fan.
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Huge fan.
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I bet.
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Don't do it.
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You should know how to log off.
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Step back away from them.
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I've actually got to think about my real answer.
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Well, my answer is you've got to have a great team.
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I don't feel like I am good at this without an awesome team.
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And our producers and engineers and fact checkers, as you mentioned, shout out to the fact checkers,
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and editors like make me sound and feel much more intelligent than I actually am.
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So, shout out.
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So, podcasts are like all on video now
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or podcasts are moving towards video and I feel like something that gets lost is fidelity to sound.
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And so I think you should still care about quality audio.
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I also think that if, especially if you're doing an interview show, like all of us do some version of an interview show,
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I think the number one thing you should think about is it not being about you.
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Yeah.
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But what are you actually curious about in the other person?
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When are you going to start that, Chris?
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Sunday soon.
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Oh, burn.
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That's true?
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I'm just kidding.
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I love Chris.
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He's the best.
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To the point, especially when we think of follow up questions, it's like you really have to think about what would my audience want to ask?
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Like, what are they, if they were sitting in this chair, what would they want to know?
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Yeah.
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And so you're right.
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It's not about you.
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It's not about sounding smart or making it like an advertisement for this person.
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It really is the Susie and Joe are listening and they've got this turned on and they're like, oh, see, I want to know this about this, about that.
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Make three episodes before you decide you actually really want to do this.
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Try it out.
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See what it's like.
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That's actionable.
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Yeah, don't commit to anything.
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You might hate this.
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Or maybe three scratches the itch.
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Or maybe you're like, damn, I am good at this.
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I'm ready.
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Just think we don't test things enough before we say like we're all in.
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Yeah.
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I think visualizing who you're making it for, having a person in your head who you're trying to talk to has been really valuable to me.
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And I think also following your own natural curiosity just to make it all about me, obviously.
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But like, if it's not interesting to you, then it's definitely not going to be interesting to someone else.
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Thank you.
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