쉐도잉 연습: Pond and Phuwin Reveal Their Real Relationship - 영상으로 영어 말하기 배우기
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I'm gonna say you guys have famously not got along at first.
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You've told that story.
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So is that real?
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Well, how should we explain this?
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I think it's because like we came from like different lives, something like that, you know, because how, how, how?
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So we had like very, very different lifestyles.
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And I think that we clicked very well when working together.
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but however um when it was off screen like at first we did try to like connect
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and we did try to um like you know hang out
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and go do other stuff right
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but at the time we also had the pandemic going on
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so there wasn't much opportunity for us to really like really really get to know each other
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so we only saw each other in like the studio settings the work settings
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and like the stress and the overall everything about like working was already overwhelming us.
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So it made our off screen chemistry kind of like, uh, a bit off.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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Because like every time you see each other, you just think of work.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just imagine that you, you met someone and working all the time, no free time, no hangout.
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Yeah.
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I think it's really hard to like, to getting closer at that time.
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Yeah.
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Because like with coworkers in the office, right?
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Like you might have like lunch break or something together.
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Like you can go like hang out after work or something.
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But at the time with the pandemic going on, it was just like, okay, 6 a.m to the studio, to the location, do the shoot until like whatever.
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Then everybody has to go home, social distancing and everything, right?
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Yeah.
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So that was why it was really, really hard for us to get along with each other.
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And we had really like different lifestyles.
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Well, explain that.
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How are your lifestyles different?
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I think it's really hard to explain, but like, maybe it's because of like, I studied in Thai school,
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like really super Thai school.
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But like he's graduated from like international school.
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Like, so I think that the lifestyle is so different at that moment.
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Yeah.
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I think the easiest way to put it is philosophy.
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Like we had different philosophies of living life.
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And that made it really, really hard to connect with each other especially
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when uh you get you work together often
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and uh you have similar career paths
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but your end goals are very very different
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which made it really hard for us to connect with each other
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because we didn't really know what uh what the other person was thinking
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or what they actually wanted to do with each other
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so it made it really hard to connect but um one thing
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that i was really grateful is that whenever um we got on screen
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or whenever there was a task that we had to do right
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we both came together and i think we did our part very well
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but apart from that like uh apart from work at
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that time it was really hard to to connect with each other i think the main problem is
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that we never talk to each other about the goals
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or the problems yeah yeah yeah it's we can get along at
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that time yeah yeah i gotta say like you bring up something very interesting goals
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and the two of you have become this duo
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that is massive in culture and in this space thank you whether it was planned
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or not there was this deep chemistry
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that was formed between the two of you yeah yeah
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that i mean you guys how many movies in are we
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now we play for like five five yeah yeah this is we're We're about to do our fifth.
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Like, breaking news, if this wasn't working, we wouldn't be at five.
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Yeah.
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And if we didn't get along by the second one, then we wouldn't be at five as well.
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So can you tell me what changes?
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Because there has to be, I mean, maybe you guys aren't the best of best of best of friends.
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Yeah.
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But there is a relationship that forms, at least by movie number two, no?
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I think we're really good friends now.
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I dare say, I dare say.
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Yeah, because I think, like, everything has changed since, like, after we finished, like, the first film, Fish Upon the Sky, right?
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But then later, before we started to film the second series, never let me go like we have a like deep talk before I start filming.
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That's why like we talk about the goals or like the problems, how to change, how to fix this, something like that.
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Yeah.
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What do you realize after that?
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What do you realize after the first movie that you're like, wow, we need to sync up and understand where we're going because clearly your life changes after that.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think one of the conversations that changed our relationship the most was probably our goals in life.
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Because I think that with the first project we did together, we had very, very different goals.
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And we didn't understand each other on what we wanted from our lives.
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So in my part, I was purely like, I was an actor, I was an artist.
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So what I wanted from my career was to have many different roles that are different from each other.
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I wanted to be in the industry for a long time, have this thing last for a while.
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Meanwhile, with him, when he came in, it was more about him being able to take care of his family.
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So with different goals, I think the approach to both of our goals are very different.
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but since we're working together right uh since the methods are different
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and the goals are different and if we don't talk to each other then
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that that creates conflict 100 like so you want consistency
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and you're willing to take risks yeah right because your drive and your why the fuel is
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is different yeah yeah i think for the first i think
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i was too young to like to set the goals i was just thinking
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that i want to get money for my family
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and that's all of course yeah i never thought
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that okay what what should i do for the future the
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goals in this entertainment industry that's why like i just care about the the money something like
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that so did it take convincing to to you to say hey
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because like let's talk the it's not an elephant in the room
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but like four out of the five of these movies are
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very sorry series are similar to one another right yeah yeah
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yes my god i watched a bunch of episodes on what
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is it called rukin there's like you can stream it in
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america it's on this god i signed up two days ago
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and now i get emails from rukatin or something i'll put a link below
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so you can watch it um but i also think rocketon rocketon thank you
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so much cam um yeah we streaming on rockets in here
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oh that's pretty cool anyway um my i i yeah dude i love a bodyguard drama action
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i'm upset don't even get me started
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but there is a similar theme between at least four to the five series you guys have done right yes
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so yes it is kind of anti this idea of being challenged
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or met with different roles yeah project to project correct yeah
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yeah a bit a bit these challenges are fun as as for me as an actor uh i think
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that um since not only with uh bl work
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but with other other types of work right um i think
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that each has their own like set ground rules on how like So if we're talking from business sense,
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right, there's a way in each work has to be marketed, whether it's BL or whether it's music or whether it's just like regular shows, right?
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I think like there are ground rules set for each of these shows.
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And I think that it's also a challenge for us both as well to try
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and diversify and make it different from each other as well.
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- click well: (사람끼리) 잘 맞다. "We clicked very well when working together." (우리는 일할 때 아주 잘 맞았어요.)
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| 현재완료 have/has + 과거분사 — 과거의 일이 지금도 관련이 있을 때 | You've told · have become · has changed |
| 과거진행 was/were + -ing — 과거의 어느 시점에 진행 중이던 동작 | was thinking · wasn't working · was just thinking |
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