シャドーイング練習: Pond and Phuwin Reveal Their Real Relationship - 動画で英語スピーキングを学ぶ
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I'm gonna say you guys have famously not got along at first.
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You've told that story.
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So is that real?
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Well, how should we explain this?
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I think it's because like we came from like different lives, something like that, you know, because how, how, how?
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So we had like very, very different lifestyles.
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And I think that we clicked very well when working together.
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but however um when it was off screen like at first we did try to like connect
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and we did try to um like you know hang out
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and go do other stuff right
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but at the time we also had the pandemic going on
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so there wasn't much opportunity for us to really like really really get to know each other
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so we only saw each other in like the studio settings the work settings
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and like the stress and the overall everything about like working was already overwhelming us.
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So it made our off screen chemistry kind of like, uh, a bit off.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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Because like every time you see each other, you just think of work.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just imagine that you, you met someone and working all the time, no free time, no hangout.
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Yeah.
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I think it's really hard to like, to getting closer at that time.
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Yeah.
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Because like with coworkers in the office, right?
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Like you might have like lunch break or something together.
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Like you can go like hang out after work or something.
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But at the time with the pandemic going on, it was just like, okay, 6 a.m to the studio, to the location, do the shoot until like whatever.
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Then everybody has to go home, social distancing and everything, right?
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Yeah.
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So that was why it was really, really hard for us to get along with each other.
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And we had really like different lifestyles.
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Well, explain that.
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How are your lifestyles different?
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I think it's really hard to explain, but like, maybe it's because of like, I studied in Thai school,
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like really super Thai school.
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But like he's graduated from like international school.
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Like, so I think that the lifestyle is so different at that moment.
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Yeah.
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I think the easiest way to put it is philosophy.
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Like we had different philosophies of living life.
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And that made it really, really hard to connect with each other especially
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when uh you get you work together often
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and uh you have similar career paths
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but your end goals are very very different
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which made it really hard for us to connect with each other
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because we didn't really know what uh what the other person was thinking
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or what they actually wanted to do with each other
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so it made it really hard to connect but um one thing
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that i was really grateful is that whenever um we got on screen
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or whenever there was a task that we had to do right
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we both came together and i think we did our part very well
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but apart from that like uh apart from work at
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that time it was really hard to to connect with each other i think the main problem is
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that we never talk to each other about the goals
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or the problems yeah yeah yeah it's we can get along at
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that time yeah yeah i gotta say like you bring up something very interesting goals
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and the two of you have become this duo
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that is massive in culture and in this space thank you whether it was planned
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or not there was this deep chemistry
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that was formed between the two of you yeah yeah
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that i mean you guys how many movies in are we
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now we play for like five five yeah yeah this is we're We're about to do our fifth.
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Like, breaking news, if this wasn't working, we wouldn't be at five.
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Yeah.
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And if we didn't get along by the second one, then we wouldn't be at five as well.
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So can you tell me what changes?
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Because there has to be, I mean, maybe you guys aren't the best of best of best of friends.
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Yeah.
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But there is a relationship that forms, at least by movie number two, no?
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I think we're really good friends now.
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I dare say, I dare say.
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Yeah, because I think, like, everything has changed since, like, after we finished, like, the first film, Fish Upon the Sky, right?
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But then later, before we started to film the second series, never let me go like we have a like deep talk before I start filming.
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That's why like we talk about the goals or like the problems, how to change, how to fix this, something like that.
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Yeah.
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What do you realize after that?
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What do you realize after the first movie that you're like, wow, we need to sync up and understand where we're going because clearly your life changes after that.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think one of the conversations that changed our relationship the most was probably our goals in life.
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Because I think that with the first project we did together, we had very, very different goals.
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And we didn't understand each other on what we wanted from our lives.
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So in my part, I was purely like, I was an actor, I was an artist.
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So what I wanted from my career was to have many different roles that are different from each other.
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I wanted to be in the industry for a long time, have this thing last for a while.
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Meanwhile, with him, when he came in, it was more about him being able to take care of his family.
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So with different goals, I think the approach to both of our goals are very different.
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but since we're working together right uh since the methods are different
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and the goals are different and if we don't talk to each other then
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that that creates conflict 100 like so you want consistency
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and you're willing to take risks yeah right because your drive and your why the fuel is
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is different yeah yeah i think for the first i think
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i was too young to like to set the goals i was just thinking
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that i want to get money for my family
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and that's all of course yeah i never thought
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that okay what what should i do for the future the
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goals in this entertainment industry that's why like i just care about the the money something like
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that so did it take convincing to to you to say hey
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because like let's talk the it's not an elephant in the room
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but like four out of the five of these movies are
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very sorry series are similar to one another right yeah yeah
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yes my god i watched a bunch of episodes on what
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is it called rukin there's like you can stream it in
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america it's on this god i signed up two days ago
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and now i get emails from rukatin or something i'll put a link below
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so you can watch it um but i also think rocketon rocketon thank you
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so much cam um yeah we streaming on rockets in here
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oh that's pretty cool anyway um my i i yeah dude i love a bodyguard drama action
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i'm upset don't even get me started
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but there is a similar theme between at least four to the five series you guys have done right yes
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so yes it is kind of anti this idea of being challenged
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or met with different roles yeah project to project correct yeah
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yeah a bit a bit these challenges are fun as as for me as an actor uh i think
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that um since not only with uh bl work
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but with other other types of work right um i think
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that each has their own like set ground rules on how like So if we're talking from business sense,
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right, there's a way in each work has to be marketed, whether it's BL or whether it's music or whether it's just like regular shows, right?
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I think like there are ground rules set for each of these shows.
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And I think that it's also a challenge for us both as well to try
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and diversify and make it different from each other as well.
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この動画が英語スピーキング練習に最適な理由
日常的な会話のリアリティがあり、自然なフローが特徴のこの対話は、shadowing（シャドーイング）の練習に最適です。登場人物が「最初は仲良くなれなかった」という経験を話す中で、曖昧な表現や口語的なフレーズが多く使われており、実際の会話での英語の使い方を学ぶことができます。特に、shadowspeak（シャドースピーク）の技法を使ってリズムとイントネーションを真似ることで、自然な発音が身につきます。
自然な表現を分解してみよう
- 「I think it's because like we came from like different lives」：「like」を使った曖昧な表現が口語的で自然。思考を整理しながら話す様子が伝わり、会話のリアリティを高めます。
- 「how should we explain this?」：相手に同意を求めながら話を進める柔らかい表現。疑問形を使うことで、会話が単方面的にならず、双方向的になります。
- 「it made our off screen chemistry kind of like, uh, a bit off」：「kind of like」「uh」などのフィラーワードが、話し言葉の特徴を表しています。これらを使うことで、話が生硬にならず、自然に聞こえます。
効果的な練習ルーティン：shadowing siteで使える方法
shadow speechの基本は「聞いて即座に真似る」ことです。この動画を使った練習は以下の通りです。まず、10秒ほどのシーンを選び、音声を聞きながら口の形を真似ます。次に、音声を止めて自分で同じ内容を言ってみます。その後、録音して元の音声と比較し、リズムやイントネーションの違いを確認します。このループを繰り返すことで、自然な発音と流暢さが身につきます。shadowing siteを利用すれば、録音と比較が簡単にできるので、効率的な練習が可能です。
英語スピーキング練習には、継続が大切です。この動画を使って毎日10分間、shadowingを行えば、短期間で会話力が向上すること間違いありません。
この動画の文法
話し手がよく使っている文型を、動画の実際の表現とともに紹介します。
| 文型 | 動画での表現 |
|---|---|
| 現在完了形 have/has + 過去分詞 — 過去の出来事が今も関係している | You've told · have become · has changed |
| 受動態 be + 過去分詞 — 誰がするかより、何が起きるかに焦点を当てる | was planned · was formed · being challenged |
| 過去進行形 was/were + -ing — 過去のある時点で進行中だった動作 | was thinking · wasn't working · was just thinking |
| 最上級 the -est / the most … — グループの中で一番 | the easiest · the best · the most was |
シャドーイングとは？英語上達に効果的な理由
シャドーイング（Shadowing）は、もともとプロの通訳者養成プログラムで開発された言語学習法で、多言語習得者として知られるDr. Alexander Arguelles によって広く普及されました。方法はシンプルですが非常に効果的：ネイティブスピーカーの英語を聞きながら、1〜2秒の遅延で声に出してすぐに繰り返す——まるで「影（shadow）」のように話者を追いかけます。文法ドリルや受動的なリスニングと異なり、シャドーイングは脳と口の筋肉が同時にリアルタイムで英語を処理・再現することを強制します。研究により、発音精度、抑揚、リズム、連音、リスニング力、そして会話の流暢さが大幅に向上することが確認されています。IELTSスピーキング対策や自然な英語コミュニケーションを目指す方に特におすすめです。