跟讀練習: Pond and Phuwin Reveal Their Real Relationship - 通過影片學習英語口語

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I'm gonna say you guys have famously not got along at first.

You've told that story.

So is that real?

Well, how should we explain this?

I think it's because like we came from like different lives, something like that, you know, because how, how, how?

So we had like very, very different lifestyles.

And I think that we clicked very well when working together.

but however um when it was off screen like at first we did try to like connect

and we did try to um like you know hang out

and go do other stuff right

but at the time we also had the pandemic going on

so there wasn't much opportunity for us to really like really really get to know each other

so we only saw each other in like the studio settings the work settings

and like the stress and the overall everything about like working was already overwhelming us.

So it made our off screen chemistry kind of like, uh, a bit off.

Totally.

Yeah.

Because like every time you see each other, you just think of work.

Yeah.

Just imagine that you, you met someone and working all the time, no free time, no hangout.

Yeah.

I think it's really hard to like, to getting closer at that time.

Yeah.

Because like with coworkers in the office, right?

Like you might have like lunch break or something together.

Like you can go like hang out after work or something.

But at the time with the pandemic going on, it was just like, okay, 6 a.m to the studio, to the location, do the shoot until like whatever.

Then everybody has to go home, social distancing and everything, right?

Yeah.

So that was why it was really, really hard for us to get along with each other.

And we had really like different lifestyles.

Well, explain that.

How are your lifestyles different?

I think it's really hard to explain, but like, maybe it's because of like, I studied in Thai school,

like really super Thai school.

But like he's graduated from like international school.

Like, so I think that the lifestyle is so different at that moment.

Yeah.

I think the easiest way to put it is philosophy.

Like we had different philosophies of living life.

And that made it really, really hard to connect with each other especially

when uh you get you work together often

and uh you have similar career paths

but your end goals are very very different

which made it really hard for us to connect with each other

because we didn't really know what uh what the other person was thinking

or what they actually wanted to do with each other

so it made it really hard to connect but um one thing

that i was really grateful is that whenever um we got on screen

or whenever there was a task that we had to do right

we both came together and i think we did our part very well

but apart from that like uh apart from work at

that time it was really hard to to connect with each other i think the main problem is

that we never talk to each other about the goals

or the problems yeah yeah yeah it's we can get along at

that time yeah yeah i gotta say like you bring up something very interesting goals

and the two of you have become this duo

that is massive in culture and in this space thank you whether it was planned

or not there was this deep chemistry

that was formed between the two of you yeah yeah

that i mean you guys how many movies in are we

now we play for like five five yeah yeah this is we're We're about to do our fifth.

Like, breaking news, if this wasn't working, we wouldn't be at five.

Yeah.

And if we didn't get along by the second one, then we wouldn't be at five as well.

So can you tell me what changes?

Because there has to be, I mean, maybe you guys aren't the best of best of best of friends.

Yeah.

But there is a relationship that forms, at least by movie number two, no?

I think we're really good friends now.

I dare say, I dare say.

Yeah, because I think, like, everything has changed since, like, after we finished, like, the first film, Fish Upon the Sky, right?

But then later, before we started to film the second series, never let me go like we have a like deep talk before I start filming.

That's why like we talk about the goals or like the problems, how to change, how to fix this, something like that.

Yeah.

What do you realize after that?

What do you realize after the first movie that you're like, wow, we need to sync up and understand where we're going because clearly your life changes after that.

Right?

Yeah.

I think one of the conversations that changed our relationship the most was probably our goals in life.

Because I think that with the first project we did together, we had very, very different goals.

And we didn't understand each other on what we wanted from our lives.

So in my part, I was purely like, I was an actor, I was an artist.

So what I wanted from my career was to have many different roles that are different from each other.

I wanted to be in the industry for a long time, have this thing last for a while.

Meanwhile, with him, when he came in, it was more about him being able to take care of his family.

So with different goals, I think the approach to both of our goals are very different.

but since we're working together right uh since the methods are different

and the goals are different and if we don't talk to each other then

that that creates conflict 100 like so you want consistency

and you're willing to take risks yeah right because your drive and your why the fuel is

is different yeah yeah i think for the first i think

i was too young to like to set the goals i was just thinking

that i want to get money for my family

and that's all of course yeah i never thought

that okay what what should i do for the future the

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goals in this entertainment industry that's why like i just care about the the money something like

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that so did it take convincing to to you to say hey

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because like let's talk the it's not an elephant in the room

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but like four out of the five of these movies are

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very sorry series are similar to one another right yeah yeah

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yes my god i watched a bunch of episodes on what

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is it called rukin there's like you can stream it in

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america it's on this god i signed up two days ago

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and now i get emails from rukatin or something i'll put a link below

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so you can watch it um but i also think rocketon rocketon thank you

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so much cam um yeah we streaming on rockets in here

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oh that's pretty cool anyway um my i i yeah dude i love a bodyguard drama action

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i'm upset don't even get me started

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but there is a similar theme between at least four to the five series you guys have done right yes

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so yes it is kind of anti this idea of being challenged

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or met with different roles yeah project to project correct yeah

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yeah a bit a bit these challenges are fun as as for me as an actor uh i think

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that um since not only with uh bl work

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but with other other types of work right um i think

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that each has their own like set ground rules on how like So if we're talking from business sense,

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right, there's a way in each work has to be marketed, whether it's BL or whether it's music or whether it's just like regular shows, right?

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I think like there are ground rules set for each of these shows.

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And I think that it's also a challenge for us both as well to try

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and diversify and make it different from each other as well.

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