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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to High Level Listening, where today we've got a high -level B2 and C1 discussion for you.
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So get ready to really push and expand your listening skills with us in real English, with real teachers who are definitely not AI.
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I don't remember the...
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I think you put your hand in front of your face.
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We're definitely not AI.
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Yes.
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What I say the other day, if we were AI, I would give myself hair.
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Oh, yes.
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So that's my response.
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But yes, well, today's discussion is about something that affects everyone who works.
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How much of your life should you be willing to sacrifice for your career?
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So we're going to look at the difficult trade -offs between earning more money,
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building a successful career, and actually having enough time and energy to endure your life.
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Absolutely.
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So to help you test and build your B2 and C1 English comprehension, mentioned, we're going to tackle some of the harder questions today.
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Something like, is a high salary worth long hours and constant pressure?
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Is stepping down from a successful position sometimes the right decision for you and your family?
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And perhaps the biggest question of today, who actually gets to decide what a successful life looks like?
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Now, I think this is such an interesting B2 and C1 discussion because our priorities can change enormously throughout our lives, right?
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And there isn't necessarily one correct way to balance ambition, money, your free time, and of course, your happiness.
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As always, we'd love to hear from you.
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Let us know in the comments what you think about today's topic at the end of the discussion.
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Yes, and one more thing before we jump into the debates, a quick reminder.
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If you want to improve your English
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and start expressing your own opinions on deeper topics like this you can check out our b2
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and c active discussion pack it has guided speaking exercises great vocabulary lists transcripts of every episode np3s
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and lots more to help you build your opinions
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and express them in high level english you can find the link to
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that in the description below okay so let's start with part one
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and the first question is Is a high salary worth sacrificing your quality of life?
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Okay, so something to think about, and you'll hear it once more.
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Is a high salary, getting paid lots of money, worth sacrificing your quality of life?
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Okay, so let's start off with what is probably the most obvious trade -off, money versus time.
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Okay, imagine you're offered a job that pays considerably more than you're earning now, but there's a catch.
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You're expected to work late, answer messages outside of working hours, travel more frequently, and take on a much heavier workload.
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I think most people instinctively focus on the salary because, well, because it's measurable, right?
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You can compare the numbers and immediately see what you're gaining.
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More money, right?
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What isn't nearly as obvious is this gradual erosion of everything else.
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Dinner becomes another opportunity to clear your inbox.
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Your weekends slowly fill up with work and before you realize that being busy has become your default setting.
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If you're permanently run off your feet, you have to ask what that success is actually costing you.
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Yeah, and I agree with the principle, but I also think there's a danger of looking at
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that question from the comfortable position of someone who already has enough money.
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If you're living paycheck to paycheck, earning significantly more could completely transform your quality of life.
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So we often talk about work -life balance as though everybody has the luxury of prioritizing one over the other,
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but financial stress can follow you home as well.
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You might finish work at five every afternoon, but if you're spending your evening worrying about whether you can afford an unexpected bill,
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all that free time isn't necessarily giving you peace of mind.
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So sometimes taking on a demanding job is a worthwhile trade -off to get some much -needed financial breathing room.
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Sure, and I can see that.
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That's a very fair distinction.
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I mean, there's a world of difference between earning more
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because you're genuinely struggling to make ends meet and earning more simply
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because your expectations keep rising alongside your income right that's kind of where
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that lifestyle inflation has a habit of creeping in almost unnoticed like the idea where you get a promotion
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so you upgrade your car and then holidays become more ambitious and longer and before long your idea of what's normal.
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kind of has quietly shifted the higher salary stops feeling like a luxury
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and gradually becomes the minimum you need just to sustain the life
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that you built right um i think sometimes people call them the golden handcuffs maybe lowering your income
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or taking a job below you would mean unraveling an entire lifestyle you become accustomed to
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which makes walking away feel really risky.
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And yeah, I think that's where this gets interesting because the high paying job itself isn't inherently the problem.
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It's allowing your spending to rise until you've removed your own freedom to choose.
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If someone earns a lot and lives reasonably and builds up a strong financial cushion, then those demanding years could actually buy them more freedom later.
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They might be able to retire early or move into something less lucrative
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because they put themselves in a strong position
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so i'm working extremely hard for money isn't automatically a bad
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bargain provided there's a clear strategy behind the sacrifice rather than just endlessly moving the goal posts well yeah sure
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and having kind of a defined endpoint could change everything right it feels more temporary rather than a permanent solution
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so if you consciously decide to do a demanding job for, say, three years, and you're saving aggressively, and then you can reassess,
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maybe that's more of a deliberate choice, right?
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What worries me is when a temporary sacrifice quietly turns into a permanent way of living.
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You take the promotion thinking it'll only be stressful while you settle in, right?
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You know, the first few days are always the hardest.
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But two years later, you're still answering emails at 10 o 'clock at night.
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And that pace that once felt unsustainable somehow becomes your new normal.
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Yeah.
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I suppose one thing, if I can play devil's advocate here, why does work necessarily have to make you happy?
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I think we've developed a modern expectation that our job should be fulfilling and reflect our identity, but perhaps there's nothing wrong with saying,
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I don't particularly enjoy my job, but it pays me well and it funds a life that I enjoy.
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You can get your sense of purpose from other places like your family, hobbies, or through volunteering perhaps.
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But expecting your employer to provide your salary
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and then also your social life and all your personal fulfillment as well might be asking a bit too much.
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I mean, yeah, I can see your perspective there.
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And of course, a job can just be a job.
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But the crucial question is whether your work stays in its place, right?
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There's a huge difference between an unfulfilling job and one that spills over into every other part of your life, right?
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If you're mentally exhausted every evening, and you're too distracted to enjoy dinner, or you're dreading Monday morning on a Sunday afternoon,
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work has definitely become something that you carry around with you.
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I guess the real question is, what version of you does this job leave for everything and everyone else oh that's a good question okay
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well we'll leave that one there and move on to part two the second point of today's discussion
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is taking a step backwards in your career sometimes the smartest move
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so it's taking a step backwards in your career in other words maybe not pursuing promotion maybe leaving a job
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or taking a lower salary job backwards maybe that is a good move
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so let's imagine that you've reached the the pinnacle the top of the career ladder you've spent 10
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or 15 years working your way up
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and you're earning lucrative money you finally have that coveted job title but you realize you are utterly miserable.
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Would you be willing to step down?
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I think it's incredibly difficult, not just because of the money, but because of the influence that you also have to surrender.
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When you're in a senior position, you have a seat at the table, you get to call the shots, you get to shape the company culture, perhaps, and direct a team.
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If you voluntarily step backwards into a less demanding role.
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You're basically relinquishing that influence and your autonomy and prestige.
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You might have to go back to taking orders rather than giving them.
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And so for someone who becomes accustomed to driving the strategy, trading that level of impact for a quieter life might lead to more frustration, not less.
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Yeah, I can definitely see what you mean by that and
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that is a really compelling point giving up
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that level of authority is undeniably tough especially when you fought tooth
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and nail to earn it in the first place right um
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it can kind of feel as though you're silencing your own voice I know my dad definitely felt that when he retired,
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all of a sudden he had no one to boss around anymore, right?
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But I think we have to ask ourselves why that loss of influence feels so devastating, right?
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Often it's because we've allowed our professional status to completely absorb our identity, right?
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Especially for Americans, our job and our work is who we are.
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We don't really have much outside of that, right?
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If you've spent a decade defining yourself as the director or the primary decision maker, stepping away is going to leave a massive void.
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And like apart from that, I think it's fascinating how we automatically frame this as kind of taking a step backwards.
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That phrase assumes that success is exclusively a vertical climb, right?
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We have to be going up in order to be doing better.
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But what if stepping down from a leadership role means actually stepping into a better role at home, right?
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On paper, you might be relinquishing some sort of corporate influence, but you could be gaining the time
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and energy to actually influence your own children's lives or be a more present partner for your partner at home.
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Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about the identity aspects, the status of having a high -paying job or a high -level position is intoxicating.
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But yeah, we might claim that we don't care about the societal expectations, but if you leave a high -paying job,
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it's probably quite jarring and difficult to watch your peers overtake you, get promoted and celebrated while you've removed yourself from the race
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so you might go to a networking event
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or even like a school reunion and suddenly you feel compelled to justify a decision
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that made your life happy and healthier
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but for other people would be like surprising
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and confusing like why did you leave
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that job you quit what yeah i feel like we we're just a little bit greedy too um
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so i think because comparison has that sneaky way of kind of recalibrating how we actually feel about things.
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It's that FOMO, fear of missing out.
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I mean, you can be perfectly happy with your quieter, much more balanced life, maybe until a former colleague announces kind of their prestigious new role on LinkedIn,
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and suddenly you feel as though you're falling behind again.
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Because I mean, that's what we've been taught since school is like, do our best, take the next step, get to the next place.
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But there is a ceiling, of course.
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And social media definitely amplifies this because we are constantly bombarded with highlight reels of professional triumphs,
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people who have got it all right.
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They eagerly broadcast their promotions and their awards,
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but they rarely post about the boundaries that they have to set or the family dinners that they've missed.
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There's no shiny certificate for having low stress levels or a well rested mind.
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You don't get a pat on the back for reading your book and sitting there in the quiet, right?
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So consequently, we start measuring our self worth by these highly visible metrics,
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while the most profound and meaningful achievements go completely unnoticed by the outside world.
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Yeah, right.
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Especially those LinkedIn platforms value the hustle, the hustle almost constantly never missing an opportunity to make money
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or do some business but yeah
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that hustle is yeah i think it's it's not necessarily inherently toxic to want more and to
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and to be ambitious i think there are some people who probably thrive on the high stakes responsibility
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and they feel invigorated by the pressure of leaving a company or reaching the peak of their profession can be very satisfying.
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And maybe telling those kinds of people
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that they should step back to find a balance might be
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just as restrictive as forcing someone else to relentlessly climb the corporate ladder.
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So I think if you do genuinely derive authentic satisfaction from your professional career, then okay, fair enough.
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Maybe you can carry on.
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You because someone else would find it exhausting well yeah
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and i completely agree with
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that ambition itself is a wonderful trait right that's what we've
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been told at least our entire lives um kind of the danger arises
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when ambition ceases to be a conscious choice
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and morphs into kind of a mindless default setting right it's the difference between pursuing a promotion
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because it genuinely aligns with your passions versus chasing it simply because.
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upwards is the only direction you know right you hit one milestone
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and before you've even had a chance to celebrate it you're already fixated on the next one
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or in my case sometimes i leave projects at like 80 90 done
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and i'm already looking at what to do next right i haven't even completed one
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and i haven't even had time to celebrate one right if you kind of never pause
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to define what enough looks like for you kind of success becomes
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that moving target that you were talking about
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that you're never actually going to hit okay
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and you're never going to be satisfied with what you've done
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right i think that's why choosing to step off the ladder
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isn't really about giving up it's about becoming more intentional with your limited time
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and recognizing that that personal growth doesn't always require a bigger paycheck or a flashier title Okay,
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so part three, and this is where we kind of have a little bit more of the deeper thinking.
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Who actually gets to decide what a successful life looks like?
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I, you know, before we had this question, I had never even thought about that.
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That's quite profound, right?
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Who actually gets to decide what a successful life looks like?
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So this is our final and probably most philosophical debate.
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We've talked about trading time for money and the difficult choice it might be of stepping backwards on the career ladder.
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But underneath all of this is kind of a much deeper question.
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Who actually gets to set the benchmark for success in the first place?
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From a very young age, we're fed a highly specific, very conventional blueprint.
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We're taught that success looks like getting a prestigious degree from our college or university, securing a high -paying corporate job,
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buying a large house, and constantly, it feels like, constantly accumulating more wealth.
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And I would argue that many people spend their entire lives exhausting themselves to achieve this ideal,
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only to finally reach the finish line and realize the prize is entirely unfulfilling
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because it was never actually their own dream to begin with yeah right i definitely agree
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that that blueprint is very rigid there's only one way to play
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that game and i mean it's i don't think we should dismiss it entirely
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that conventional paths of working hard securing financial stability
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and climbing the ranks i don't think it was invented initially just to make us miserable
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and obedient i think people do like structure
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and people do like a reliable framework and a path to to follow
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but yeah and maybe not everyone wants the pressure of having to reinvent the wheel
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and and sit
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and discover their own unique life purpose for a lot of
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people just having a clear universally understood milestone is is kind of comforting to know
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that you have the same shared goal as everyone else
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if you follow this established path you're rewarded by social validation from new colleagues and friends and financial security as well.
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So yes, it's easy to say you can reject that blueprint and forge your own unconventional path.
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And it sounds very liberating in theory, but in practice, it's often terrifying, unstable.
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And I think a lot of people come back to the blueprint in the end when it doesn't work out.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, of course, it is definitely terrifying, but I think that fear is exactly what keeps people trapped in some of these unfulfilling routines, right?
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The problem with relying on that conventional framework for our comfort is that the world has changed so much,
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yet our definition of success hasn't really evolved with it, right?
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I feel like this is the same dream that someone from the 50s or 60s would have thought of, right?
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So for many younger generations,
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the traditional milestones like buying a four -bedroom house or having a perfectly linear career where every year you're moving up,
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you're moving forward, I think these are becoming financially unattainable anyway.
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So when people inevitably fall short of these outdated expectations, they feel like huge failures.
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I think we need to grant ourselves the autonomy to completely redefine success on our own terms.
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If a successful life to you means working a modest part -time job
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so you can focus on painting or traveling out of a backpack instead of paying a mortgage,
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society shouldn't get to brand you as an underachiever true yeah i see where you're coming from
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and that that level of freedom is certainly the ideal i think
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but i think if we want to be realistic about human nature we are still deeply social creatures, and I think deep down.
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We still crave the approval of our peers, family, colleagues, or friends.
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And you can confidently declare that you've redefined success for yourself,
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but it's relentlessly exhausting to constantly defend your life choices to a society that doesn't understand them.
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So when you deviate from the norm, you will inevitably face some judgment.
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You'll get some unsolicited advice and probably condescension as well.
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But you do technically get to decide what your own success looks like,
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but you still have to live within a society that still promotes a very different paradigm.
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So ignoring that external pressure requires a level of unwavering self -assurance that I don't think many people actually possess.
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Yeah, and that absolutely is a fair point.
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It's exhausting to swim against the current, right? the social conditioning is so deeply ingrained in us.
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Like if you went to school when you were little
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and you watched TV shows and you saw what the ideal life was, right?
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But sometimes we do think we're making independent choices, but we're often just subconsciously seeking validation from our peers.
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We want them to see us and think, oh, wow, she's doing so much with her life, right?
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She's so fulfilled.
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But I still believe that kind of
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that friction of defending your unconventional choices is a much better price to pay than
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that quiet despair of living what is essentially someone else's life.
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It's not your own.
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And I think it takes an enormous amount of courage to sit down and separate your desires from these outside pressure.
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You have to interrogate your own goals, you have to really ask yourself,
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do I actually want this promotion or do I just want the applause that comes with it?
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Right.
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And I think that's the perfect question to summarize the entire dilemma.
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Separating what you genuinely want from what you've been conditioned to want may be the hardest work you ever do.
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And sometimes the ultimate measure of success isn't just wealth or status
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or even defying convention just for the sake of it maybe
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true success is just reaching a point where you no longer feel
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that you have to justify your choices to anyone but yourself
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and if you can look at the life that you've built
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and honestly say that it reflects your own priorities rather than someone else's expectations maybe that's it you've already succeeded
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interesting thought yeah right that's a good ending uh okay well there you are three interesting
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and slightly challenging discussion points about a work -life balance we'd love to know what you think
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if someone offered you a much higher salary tomorrow what would
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you be willing to sacrifice time for yourself time with family
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and are there any things that you would refuse to give up let us know in the comments below.
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We read a reply to every single one.
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And if you'd like to practice discussing topics like this yourself with some self -study, don't forget to check out our B2 and C1 Active Discussion Pack.
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It includes all the full transcripts, advanced vocabulary pages, guided speaking activities, debate questions, shadowing practice,
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and mp3s to help you move from understanding English to actually
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expressing your own ideas with confidence thanks for listening we'll see
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you in the next high level listening discussion here on youtube very very soon bye
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Vocabulary and speaking notes for this lesson
This video has 263 sentences and 3665 words to shadow. The speech runs for 23:24. The speaker talks at a natural 157 words per minute, close to everyday conversation. 82% of the words are among the 3,000 most common in English; the rest is worth studying before you start.
Key vocabulary in this video
15 words from the video worth learning, with pronunciation and meaning:
| Word | Pronunciation | Meaning |
|---|---|---|
| salary noun | /ˈsæləɹi/ | A fixed amount of money paid to a worker, usually calculated on a monthly or annual basis, not hourly, as wages. Implies a degree of professionalism and/or… |
| earn verb | /ɝn/ | To gain (success, reward, recognition) through applied effort or work. |
| backward adjective | /ˈbækwɚd/ | Situated toward or at the rear of something. |
| promotion noun | /pɹəˈmoʊʃn̩/ | An advancement in rank or position. |
| expectation noun | /ˌɛk.spɛkˈteɪ.ʃən/ | The act or state of expecting or looking forward to an event as about to happen. |
| exhaust verb | /ɪɡˈzɔst/ | To draw or let out wholly; to drain completely. |
| necessarily adverb | /ˌnɛs.əˈsɛɹ.ə.li/ | Inevitably; of necessity. |
| sacrifice noun | /ˈsæk.ɹɪ.faɪs/ | Originally, the killing (and often burning) of a human being or an animal as an offering to a deity; later, also the offering of an object to a deity. |
| genuinely adverb | /ˈd͡ʒɛn.ju.ɪn.li/ | In a genuine manner; truthfully, truly. |
| ladder noun | /ˈlæd.ɚ/ | A frame, usually portable, of wood, metal, or rope, used for ascent and descent, consisting of two side pieces to which are fastened rungs (cross strips or… |
| topic noun | /ˈtɑpɪk/ | A subject; a theme; a category or general area of interest. |
| ideal adjective | /aɪˈdi(ə)l/ | Pertaining to ideas, or to a given idea. |
| conventional adjective | /kənˈvɛnʃənl̩/ | Pertaining to a convention, as in following generally accepted principles, methods and behaviour. |
| climb verb | /ˈklaɪ̯m/ | To traverse a slope or contour, either upwards (ascending) or downwards (descending). |
| peer noun | /pɪɹ/ | Somebody who is, or something that is, at a level or of a value equal (to that of something else). |
Phrasal verbs you will hear
| Word | Meaning |
|---|---|
| give up verb | To surrender (someone or something); to inform on (someone). |
| check out verb | To record the departure or withdrawal of someone or something (such as guests, employees, books, etc.). |
| build up verb | To erect; to construct. |
| fall behind verb | To be late (for a regular event) |
| go back to verb | To stem from; to originate in. |
| miss out verb | To miss an experience or lose an opportunity, etc. that should not be missed. |
| move forward verb | To cause to make progress. |
| move up verb | To promote, put onto a higher level. |
Grammar in this video
The structures the speaker uses most, with the exact words from the video:
| Structure | In the video |
|---|---|
| Present perfect have/has + past participle — a past action that still matters now | has guided · has become · you've removed |
| Relative clauses who / which + clause — extra information about a person or thing | teachers who are · everyone who works · someone who already |
| Passive voice be + past participle — the focus is on what happens, not who does it | we've been taught · been told · was invented |
Pronunciation to watch
The speaker uses 85 contractions and reduced forms, such as you're, you've, don't. Say them the short way, as you hear them.
- The “th” sounds: breathe /bɹiːð/, tooth /tuθ/, underneath /ˌʌndɚˈniθ/, authentic /ɔˈθɛn.tɪk/
- The “sh” and “zh” sounds: promotion /pɹəˈmoʊʃn̩/, expectation /ˌɛk.spɛkˈteɪ.ʃən/, conventional /kənˈvɛnʃənl̩/, ambition /æmˈbɪʃ.ən/, luxury /ˈlʌk.ʃə.ɹi/
- Long words — get the stress right: expectation /ˌɛk.spɛkˈteɪ.ʃən/, necessarily /ˌnɛs.əˈsɛɹ.ə.li/, genuinely /ˈd͡ʒɛn.ju.ɪn.li/, temporary /ˈtɛmp(əˌɹ)ɛɹi/, priority /pɹaɪˈɒɹɪti/
How to practise with this video
- Listen to the whole video once without speaking and note the words you do not know.
- Start at 0.75× speed, shadow it sentence by sentence, then go back to normal speed once it feels easy.
- Record yourself and compare with the original, paying attention to words like salary, earn, backward.
What is the Shadowing Technique?
Shadowing is a science-backed language learning technique originally developed for professional interpreter training and popularized by polyglot Dr. Alexander Arguelles. The method is simple but powerful: you listen to native English audio and immediately repeat it out loud — like a shadow following the speaker with just a 1–2 second delay. Unlike passive listening or grammar drills, shadowing forces your brain and mouth muscles to simultaneously process and reproduce real speech patterns. Research shows it significantly improves pronunciation accuracy, intonation, rhythm, connected speech, listening comprehension, and speaking fluency — making it one of the most effective methods for IELTS Speaking preparation and real-world English communication.