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Hello everyone and welcome to the July 25th version of the analytics section meeting.

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Hello everyone and welcome to the July 25th version of the analytics section meeting.

Got a number of topics here you can go through.

Matt got you from monitor observability.

I believe you were having a conversation with Kenny,

and you might have a ton of insight that we can benefit from from from your months spent.

Would you like to start?

And actually, before we start,

I did want to give one little bit of preamble.

So first of all, Matt's awesome.

And I'm excited to have him chat with you all.

I do want to say like a principle of mine in thinking about obviously both parts of the application

that we're building in observability and in analytics have a lot of potential overlap,

including are using likely going to use a common data store in ClickHouse.

But I want to try to operate them as independently as possible.

So what we should think about when Matt's explaining what they've learned is lessons learned

that we can apply going forward as opposed to like trying to couple the groups to say like,

oh, one group work on this part and we'll use it

and the other group work on another part because these are all.

So both early investments for GitLab and so it's important

that we are structured to move quickly rather than necessarily be coupled together as groups.

So I just want to make sure I give that caveat before we start.

Makes sense.

Cool.

Yeah.

Thanks, Kenny.

Thanks, Dennis.

I'm Matt i'm from the monitor observability group i came over to get lab as part of the obstrace acquisition

and in the last six months we've really been building um

a lot of what i think you folks are probably going to end up having to build

and so that's why i wanted to you know sort of bridge this discussion a little bit

because um i you know and i think that uh it's a good principle

to operate by you know having kind of you know separate um dependencies

and trying not to you know overlap too much um

but you know in the last six months we have invested

a lot in i think what you guys are gonna have to redo

so i you know i think that there is you know we're happy here to

if you want to stay you know a little bit more independent we're happy to help in any way we can

but there is a lot of benefit too from you know sharing some of what we've built at the same time

we've built a lot of automation around kubernetes um you know

infrastructure life cycle of kubernetes clusters with click house on top

of it click house scaling limits quota management inside of click

house end-to-end testing of the entire system authentication on the apis um you know

that connect back with the git lab instance um you know there's there's loads

and loads and loads of things

that uh you know for the back end a lot of this stuff is not seen by a user

but they will be things that an operator of git lab for self-hosted or for our own internal sre team

they will have to interact with the system and so i think

that from a product standpoint too

and user experience you know we don't want to diverge too much i don't think and have you know

many different deployment models of you know components that then sres

and operators have different ways of managing and different run books

and so i think there's a lot here that we you know

if we do keep infrastructure separate uh

and you guys go down the route of kind of building

your own stuff in parallel we should at least make sure

that we're building things

that align with some principles i guess you know to make it easier for those folks

that are going to be you know managing the life cycle of of git lab

and its entirety of observability and analytics analytics and whatnot

so um we i just wanted to start the conversation um

and kind of you know introduce things for a start as a way

that I think that if you did want to use what we have,

I think it really could accelerate where you guys are knowing the effort

and time we've had to put in over the last six months.

But, you know, happy to leave that over to you guys to decide,

you know, where you'd like to use some things and help and just start the dialogue.

Yeah, no, that's great.

I mean, I think there's definitely going to be some learnings we can leverage there.

And, you know, to your point,

if we operate by the same,

you know, principles, then at least SREs won't have to worry about managing two very similar architectures,

two different ways, right?

There are some decisions we are discussions we haven't I had

in terms of like how we're going to like organize the tendency of

or how we're going to like set up this whole kind

of tracking box as we're currently calling it in terms of JetSea,

ClickHouse and Cube in terms of like,

you know, obviously we're going to operate in multiple regions.

So that's going to be useful in terms of how you're managing the provisioning of Kubernetes there.

But then, yeah, when it gets down to like per customer,

especially on .com, I'm not sure if,

well, we haven't gotten there yet,

but I'm sure there will be something we can leverage there.

I guess in terms of like where we could start to like see where this is happening,

is there a repository or does there documentation we can start to like look at,

start exploring this? Or?

Absolutely.

You start.

Yeah, I'll drop some links in to the notes here with the repositories that are relevant,

but you can go through it.

You can see all the code there.

You know, your model around having these,

you know, boxes that you're deploying into different regions

and different clouds all fits our exact same model too um

the tendency model is exactly the same um you know hence

kind of why i think personally i think it doesn't make a lot of sense to go

and rebuild all that um you know

because it's a i think it's a it's a massive undertaking um

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and you need you know to have a team that has you know a lot of experience i think in the

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realm of kubernetes and you know i think

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that we can probably help you get a lot further there

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so you can focus on more of the user facing pieces

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and get that you know demo up and running for

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or not the demo but you know the early alpha up

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and running much faster right um

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so there is um you know i sort of was seeing it as a way

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and i talked about it with sebastian a little bit too uh he's out of office here today

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but you know i think there is a model where we

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could work on collaborate on the same code um without it slowing us down

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and getting it our way because we have all the

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pieces in place that you guys could just fill in the bits

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that you need and deploy without you know needing us to do anything for you

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so i think that you know might just get you a whole lot further Rahid.

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No, great.

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Yeah, that was the principle I don't think I very artfully said earlier.

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I, like, GitLab, everyone can contribute.

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Typically, we operate in one code base.

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So I was thinking about it in those terms.

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What I didn't want to create is,

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like, if analytics need something,

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they need observability to ship something first.

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But if we're all operating from the same code base,

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I think that's a great mental model.

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Yeah, a shared framework

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that also we can hopefully contribute back to to help you

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know you know also just bring some light to y'all

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but um yeah if we can if we can operate it in such a way

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that we both benefit from it but we can contribute from shared work

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or benefit from shared work but then both contribute to it hopefully have

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that backwards then that'd be great um

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because there's there's a bunch of different topics

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that i have running in my mind in terms of how

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is this all going to be maintained i've you know heard

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from multiple people like click house requires to some degree of like you know management especially and

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if we're going to have to have you know n number

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of click house instances i don't even know the first thing

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about how the things we're going to be looking at there

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so if you've already done some work around

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that that's already a huge boost but then yeah everything from testing run books all

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that kind of stuff like you know product analytics currently has two engineers

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so there's a lot of work to be done even just from a feature perspective standpoint um

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so yeah even getting into the infrastructure part of it any

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anything you've got will at least you know be a huge starting point um Yeah, for us.

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If you're saying like where our tendency miles the same,

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then there's probably a lot of you can just leverage and bootstrap off of.

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So, yeah, it's appreciate y'all bringing it up

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and have coming to talk about it

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and we'll be happy to explore all the as many links you can throw our way. Of course.

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Yeah, I think it's, you know,

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everybody comes out stronger and better off if we can all collaborate on the same code base.

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And we have, Kenny mentioned in here,

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I think he's got to take it down a little further.

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We do have a contract with Clickhouse Inc.

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And we've been engaged with Clickhouse Inc now for a number of months,

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working with them on a number of issues,

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getting reviews of how we manage Clickhouse, things like this.

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And so, you know, we're building up that muscle in the team.

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And we've also hired some ClickHouse experts in the team.

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So, you know, we're kind of getting more acquainted with running ClickHouse and,

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you know, it's quirks.

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So, you know, we can certainly help there too, I think.

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That's amazing.

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Cool.

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I'll drop these links in here for the main repo.

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We're still under heavy development, of course.

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So not everything's there.

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Runbooks, you won't see those in the repo yet.

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There's things, but you'll find issues too where we can follow up on things that are yet to be done.

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The core tenancy model deployment,

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lifecycle, and authentication, all that stuff is all in place.

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Yeah, authentication will be huge.

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Right now, everything's just out,

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as Sam saw, it's just very development purposes,

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very out in the open.

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So lock that out, lock that up before we start deploying it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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Awesome.

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All right.

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Kenny.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a private channel, but it's a direct connection between us and ClickHouse that we pay for support from them for.

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So at any point, Dennis,

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you and team want access to that channel.

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Let me know.

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I mean, if you want Dennis,

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I can just invite you to that channel right now so you can follow along.

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Then feel free to invite others as needed. Will do.

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Thanks for sharing.

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Awesome.

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Have a couple of short points and then we'll open it up for anyone else.

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Sam is joining us as interim product manager for product analytics.

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I worked with him.

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I still work with him rather in compliance.

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um yeah sam you want to do a little quick intro

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yeah hey folks really excited to be here um i think

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product analytics is going to be a really exciting space to to jump in

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and i'm excited to go on

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that journey with you all together um like dennis said i'm

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on the compliance team the compliance group right now um started on

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that group in 2021 i've been with gitlab since 2019 i'm

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based in cincinnati ohio in the united states um over the

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next couple of weeks i'd like to to put a coffee

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chat together with each of you just to get to know you a little bit more personally,

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let you get to know me a little more personally.

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And we can also talk about some work stuff along the way.

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So I'm sure I will have lots of questions and things to discuss with each of you in the days to come.

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And I'm excited to get things started off here today.

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Awesome, Sam.

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Thank you.

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Very cool.

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And then my last point was just kind of just getting a little bit more,

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well, not just Sorry, just one of the highlight kind of next steps.

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So we're headed for product analytics in that group.

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So I'm in writing mode,

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just trying to organize a bunch of different epics for all the different categories and features,

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but basically just kind of taking the notes from our proof of concept demo,

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what we've been having discussions,

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you know, online and offline.

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and I'm just trying to get an idea of all the

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things we've been thinking about what we want to do for things like product analytics,

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instrumentation and whatnot, and then starting to nail

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that down into more of an MVC in terms of what we really want to pursue for those.

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But in terms of a more immediate focus,

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I think discussions between Kenny,

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Tim and I, we're looking at product analytics or more specifically,

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you know, web and mobile analytics in terms of how just your general setting up instrumentation,

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trying to see what default dashboard you want to kind of present.

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And also just getting a little bit more productionized.

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And so getting some instrumentation set up to be able to track maybe the handbook,

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maybe our design library, maybe even .com,

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just with a targeted audience of just,

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you know, GitLab.org, just to be able to get more information there

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and just start dogfooding and seeing what we want to really provide there in terms of your general web analytics.

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So that's what's coming up for the product analytics group um yeah

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and dennis i know uh i don't know

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if you want to discuss here the like tactical process of taking all of the vision poc

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and breaking that down into epics and issues

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and kind of targeting what our initial first mvcs versus subsequent ones is a big task

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so how can sam still ramping up so this should be on me this week but how can I help this week?

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I know we have some time,

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but is there something that I can start contributing to or reviewing or putting that on paper?

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So, I mean, the main point

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that I'm trying to push out is just to organize all the different areas so

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that we at least have like it organized within our on GitLab.com in terms of like everyone can start editing

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and having discussions there.

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So I will drop a link in the section channel probably end of day today

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or tomorrow to just have the general structure of all the different epics in terms of the features

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and then start building out that list.

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So if anyone wants to jump in and just start,

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you know, even, you know,

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all the wild ideas that we were discussing in terms of like what we could provide to the features,

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like feel free to add that to the epics.

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um there's no strict policy on who's uh who can do what

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so any as

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if anyone has anything i'd like to add in terms of

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like things we should be thinking about uh for any of

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the features we want to build out then um please do um that's all i'd ask

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but yeah right now i'm just putting the general structure together just

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so that um we have somewhere to record all this stuff so okay

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and this is we can start to to to filter out

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from there i think what i can do this week is

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make sure I'm contributing to you know like our what's next section we've been updating

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but it's still pretty vague I want to maybe try to get something very crisp

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that will help if we can use

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that discussion in an MR to like really target what is

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you know milestones one through three specific focus going to be yeah I'll work on

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that for sure yeah that's that's the general goal of um

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I think what we'll be both be working on then is just like

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or in Sam as well as he ramps up there's just

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to give a little bit more of a clearer direction than yeah we want to build an analytics thing so yeah

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yeah and i'm happy to help with either of those initiatives i'll be ramping up

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but i'm still willing to contribute things this week

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so don't uh feel free feel free to pull me into

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those things i'm looking forward to it i want you to

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tell me all of the the the tell me how poorly

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i've organized all of it it's just gonna be perfect this

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never never never is um cool well that's all I've got

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as far as agenda anyone anyone else would like to share

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anything um um Amanda I don't want to put you on the spot

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but I um your comment about the visibility of the section thing I think seems material

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but I didn't see anyone of a concern I didn't maybe completely understand it

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but is is everyone aware of the change in visibility for the section group and comfortable with that change Yeah,

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so TLDR, late Friday my time,

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we had a report that the metrics dictionary wasn't accessible externally.

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And it turned out it was because we moved the metrics dictionary project over to the analytics group,

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parent group, and that parent group was private,

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which caused only members of that domain to be able to see it.

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So I made the parent group,

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the analytics group, as well as the product intelligence subgroup and the metrics dictionary project,

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all public visibility.

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So visibility settings are least restrictive to most.

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So you can still make things more restrictive within um but

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if that's a problem then we can revert everything

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and we can move metrics dictionary out to a separate patient cool good call okay

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so the action for anyone who is like hey i wanted

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something in there to be private is now you have to explicitly make it private

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because it's not cool yeah no thanks for the call out

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because i remember the visibility options being restricted and i i hadn't realized

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that the well i i didn't create oh yeah i had the section group have had to be created

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so it was just created as private

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so we can be public by default there's no problem at all

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but i think that's a good thing to call out cool thanks for the the quick action on

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that amanda all right um anyone else would like to share

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anything well i'm going to start uh advertising the job i

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got the job descriptions done i have job racks open so we're hiring engineers

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uh for for back in front of product analytics so

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if you know anyone um i'll i'll drop the links in the agenda after this call

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and then uh feel free to get some referrals i'd really much appreciate

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that if there's nothing else everyone gets 10 minutes back enjoy your mondays enjoy your weeks

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take care thanks everyone thanks guys take care

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