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Great to have you here.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Happy to be here.
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Okay, now, should I call you Eminem or Marshall or Slim?
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What do you like to be called?
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Eminem Slim Marshall.
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Eminem Slim Marshall.
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Look in my mind.
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You can call me.
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Wow.
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We got the voice as well.
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Hey, now, where have you been?
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What have you been doing?
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It's been, what, has it been four years, five years since the last album, and now you've got the new one, Relapse, coming out, but it's been a long period.
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This was a deliberate step away from things, I guess.
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Yeah, I just wanted to pull back from the spotlight I wanted to pull back from the spotlight for a little while, you know, just I guess kind of reassess my whole career, you know what I mean?
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I ended up in rehab in 2005 and, you know, just kind of wanted to, like I was trying to figure out where I was going, you know what I mean?
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Like where I was going in my personal life and career-wise and everything, like where I was, what I was going to do.
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So I kind of wanted to, I knew that I still wanted to, I knew I wanted to take a break from the spotlight, but at the same time I still wanted to do music, you know, because I'd go crazy if I didn't do music.
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I guess you were still creating music, writing music in that period, even if you were releasing it.
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Yeah, I was writing music too, but I don't know, I kind of took the producer's role even more so, and, you know, stepped away from the mic, even though...
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I mean, I was still writing, I was still making songs, but I wasn't making anything that I felt like was good enough to put out at that time.
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And then what happened?
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It just clicked again?
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Or you just thought the time was right?
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Well, I got sober, first of all, you know what I mean?
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How tricky was that for you?
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Was that a difficult journey?
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Was that a tough thing to do?
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Yeah, definitely.
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It was pretty rough.
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You know, there were a couple of years that were pretty bad for me.
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But, you know, I'm a little over a year sober now, so I'm happy to...
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Well, congratulations.
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Happy to...
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OK, I haven't got the new album yet.
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It's not quite out yet.
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I've been given a few tracks.
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I've been enjoying them very much.
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They're great fun.
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The single's terrific.
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But I love, you know, I'm a big admire of you.
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I think you're just such a talented writer um.. uh.. what was the song needed about performing
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that was in eight mile um.. lose yourself
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that's got some of the best interests incredible captures the kind of the fear of performing
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and the need to perform and the desire to perform i just thought
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that was a remarkable piece of work if you weren't doing uh..
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if you weren't writing rap would you be were you writing beforehand was it rap
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that got you into writing in the first place or were you already expressing yourself in that way
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nah um.. i mean i didn't i didn't actually like start writing it was definitely hip-hop you know i didn't um...
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I didn't pick up a pen and realize
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that I could write anything until you know rap got me into doing that You know I mean I heard
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Ice-T reckless was one of the first songs I ever heard once I heard Run DMC LL Cool J.
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I was like this is what I want
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so this is the first wave of the big rappers This is really yeah that one day of see those good.
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Did you like a Houdini and those guys as well?
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Oh, yeah, the fat boys remember the fat boys.
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Yeah, buddy.
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Oh you could eat Good yeah We should team up, we should do something, maybe release something together.
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That'd be hot.
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Do you, let me ask something, and I'm sure people who rap get asked this all the time, do you sing ever?
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Say you're at home and the mood takes you, because in your rapping, it's rapping, it's kind of talking, if you're in the shower, a little bit of Frank Sinatra maybe?
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Yeah, a lot of Frank Sinatra.
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Yeah, really?
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Yeah.
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You got a good voice?
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No, I mean, I sing on my records, I can't really, I'm not a singer.
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But it's not singing singies, it's not like, oh, the summer breeze, you know.
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No. That is officially singing, regardless of what you think.
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But you ever get tempted to cut loose on a record?
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I mean, I've done some things, you know, here and there, like as far as like singing, but, you know, I'll tell the world I can't sing.
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That's not my, you know what I mean, what I feel like my forte is.
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But, you know, some hooks, if you listen to them, there's melodies in them.
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Yeah, there's a melody.
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Well, the way you use the voice is melodic as well.
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Yeah, as long as you can hold a key, you know what I mean, or a note or whatever.
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You can do it?
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Yeah, I guess.
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Yes, at least I try.
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How was it when you were starting out?
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Because I know before you came along, there was only one white rapper I was familiar with, and that was Vanilla Ice.
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He was great.
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Mr. Richard Von Winkle or something.
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Believe it or not, I interviewed him years ago.
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I quite liked him, he was a nice guy.
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However, he was kind of a bit of a novelty act, really.
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You came along, and obviously it's the real thing.
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But did you encounter that kind of prejudice?
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Did you encounter that attitude early on, people saying he can't do it because he's a white guy, this is essentially black urban music?
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I mean, yeah, early on I went through quite a bit of that.
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But I think that at the end of the day, I guess if you, as long as you,
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if your heart is in it and you just keep persevering, you're going to break through.
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I mean, I don't know.
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I mean, it was certainly, it wasn't easy, you know what I mean?
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But I just kept at it.
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You know, I got booed off stage.
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It was many times, as I did in the movie, like certain, you know.
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How long did it take, do you think, before you got good enough to think, OK, this is working now?
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How many times did you have bad on stage experiences?
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Um, maybe a couple.
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So not that many.
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Because I'm pretty awesome.
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Okay, let me talk about your new single because you know what I love about your work, and I'm sure many people do, there's a sense of humor in it.
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It's funny.
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A lot of the time it's funny.
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Not always, sometimes it's dark and you know, other things, but sometimes it's very funny.
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The new single is very funny
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and you have a firm grasp of popular culture culture you kind of I think the word
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that young people use is this you diss some people in
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the new single some yeah yeah now do you have any
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feedback you ever meet those people do they ever contact you
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and let you know what they think about it
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or nah I mean here's the thing this is this is the kind of the way
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that I see it in the way
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that I've always said it is it's kind of like these
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aren't personal attacks on people these I've never met these people you know what I mean
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so these aren't like personal attacks on their character or or anything like that, you know, it's kind of like picking names out of a hat.
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And if your name rhymes with something good, you know what I mean?
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That's the same line.
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If you're, you know, a pop figure, you know what I mean, like in this world...
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Like Marilyn Manson, who you do, and Jessica Simpson, and Sarah Palin, I guess.
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But you can see why, if you do Sarah Palin, people might think, oh, he wants to make a statement about Sarah Palin or American politics.
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I do, I want to nail her, but...
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If anyone's gonna, I think you got a good chance.
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Hey, you're looking in good shape.
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One of the rumors I heard that when you were away, that you'd ballooned up, that you'd got really big.
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Did you put on a lot of weight?
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Yeah, I put on quite a few pounds.
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How chunky did you get?
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I think I probably tipped the scales a little over 200.
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And was this just eating, overeating?
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It was eating, it was taking pills that I had no business taking, you know what I mean?
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Doing things that I just wasn't taking care of myself, I wasn't taking care of my body.
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I kind of felt like, I mean, you know, there were times I wanted to just give it up, you know what I mean?
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I was in a pretty dark place.
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To keep in check of this now, you must be working out a lot, I guess, and you've got a fitness regime you stick to?
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Yeah, I run a lot.
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I run quite a bit.
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I get up in the morning.
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I was running twice a day for a little while.
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And how far did you run when you say one?
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It's half an hour, ten minutes?
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What is it?
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I was running...
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I was...
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There was one point where I was running, like, it was a little too much.
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It was a little extreme.
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It was a total of 17 miles.
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But you know what that is.
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That's you filling the gap you had in your life when you've given up the other stuff from there.
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It's kind of addictive behavior.
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Yeah, it's like you kind of go from one addiction to the next, and I'm an addict, you know what I mean?
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So I'm, I guess, an extremist, like one extreme to the next.
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Well, now, am I right in thinking that one of the things you're addicted to right now, and I'm very excited about this, is American comic books.
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Oh yeah, I kind of, I had that hobby when I was a kid, like I used to collect comics a lot, and I kind of, I guess when I, as I started to get sober,
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I kind of like fell back in love with, you know, comic books again.
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Like, oh, this is dope, why did I ever leave this alone?
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There you go, there's Eminem on the cover of The Punisher, one of the Punisher comics, a recent one.
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That's got to be, you've got to know you've arrived when you're on the cover of the Punisher.
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Oh yeah, that's how you know you made it.
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Yeah.
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The hat you're wearing in that particular situation, because it's red, it looks rather like my wife has something that she wears in the shower sometimes.
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I don't think they've done you any photos.
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But you do like the headgear, don't you?
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Yeah, I do like the headgear.
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Yeah, and what's the name of the guys you perform with, the group?
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D12.
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D12.
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Now, here's a photograph.
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They all look very splendid, but the fella to the bottom right, he appears to be wearing his grandmother's shower cap.
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Do you have any is there any quality control
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that goes on with the gang around you do you
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when they come in they file in do you ever say Good good good.
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Oh Absolutely not or you just let it come as it
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and fall as it does no when he put that thing on I was like good good good great
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Are you gonna come back you do some more tools um I haven't got
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that far as far as like touring I haven't like got
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that far to do to really figure it out yet I haven't got
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that part figured out so I'm kind of you know I'm kind of an album cycle right now
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Promoting and things like that, but we'll see how it goes.
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Do you have any need this evening of a human big box?
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Maybe we should just do the whole thing acapella
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and you should be boxing this is you might be we won't need alchemist I am old school.
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I'm old school.
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Really?
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Yeah, man.
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I'm old school I'm so old school I don't even know what old school means.
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Me neither. At this point.
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It's hard to bust a rhyme, to bust a rhyme and keep in time, it's tricky.
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It's tricky, tricky, tricky and I can do it.
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Wow.
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Amazing, amazing.
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