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michelle welcome to part three of our conversation coaching series thank you thank you
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so guys if you missed any of this series stay to the end
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and we'll share episode numbers um and it's definitely okay to listen out of order
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so don't worry about that um so definitely listen
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and we'll give you those numbers yes
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and part one was about improving your small talk part two is about keeping the conversation going
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but today we are talking about what to do
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if you need to pivot maybe the topic has run its course
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or something controversial comes up
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and you can tell we need to change the subject we have all been there what do you do yeah
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so today we are sharing strategies and phrases that can help you know
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when to pivot and how to do it
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so let's hear the episode hello lindsay how are you i'm
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doing good today aubrey how's everything in your world today excellent
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excellent i have a question to start us out today okay
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do you enjoy chatting with friends about polarizing topics divisive topics
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i think it depends on the friend yeah very much i'm
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talking to some people are good at uh separating themselves
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and kind of their egos from the topic i enjoy those conversations
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because it becomes more intellectual more theoretical more uh abstract and i love that I love that kind of topic.
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But when people take things really personally, it can be hard.
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It can be really hard.
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Yeah, I agree.
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A hundred percent.
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I'm the same.
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It depends on who I'm talking to.
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It depends on how open we are to each other's opinions.
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Right.
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Otherwise, it could just be contentious, which is not fun.
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And unfortunately, I feel like now we're in a political moment where it just doesn't happen anymore.
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I think a lot of the politicians in the U.S are retiring or passing away, the ones that used to be able to reach across the aisle and actually have friendships,
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like Joe Lieberman.
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He just passed away.
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And he was a Democrat that apparently had a very strong friendship with John McCain, a Republican.
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And I feel like, sadly, I'm not sure that that would happen now.
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Or maybe it does, but we don't know about it.
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We don't see it on the news because it doesn't catch headlines.
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Right.
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And I wish we could hear about it more
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because yeah i think when people reach across party lines that's
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when real progress is able to be made right i i love a sort of
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that moderate mindset of listening to all sides and
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and really trying to be more cohesive unified yeah yeah in today's episode it's not really about politics
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but it's interesting to think
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which way does it flow does what's going on with the
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people in society flow up to politics where the politicians can't have those friendships across the aisle
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or is it vice versa because there aren't friendships across the aisle uh
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that people are getting divided i don't know
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but something's going on right now yeah this is really interesting we got this great question about a topic
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that can be quite polarizing
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and we want to share with you guys some really good
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tips for discussing controversial topics in english we chatted about one really recently
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when we talked about diamonds right episode 2192 what about diamonds how to approach controversial topics in english
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and we got another question about something else similar be sure to scroll up listen to
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that one if you missed it and we're diving into another controversial topic today
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yeah and this question came in through youtube and by the way guys
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if you don't know we have a youtube channel
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and a lot of our listeners consume our show over there on youtube
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because you can see us on video so go
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and check it out go to youtube type in all there's
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english hit subscribe today this is from julian esteban uh aubry
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would you like to read the question from sure absolutely hello lindsay
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and aubry i've been listening to the podcast for a long
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time it's always fun with valuable content to improve every day
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thank you that's amazing we love to hear it we do
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i have a question i'm not sure how to approach a conversation about environmental pollution and climate change?
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I have tried, but it turns out to be very brief.
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I'd like to know some vocabulary and common phrases about this to deepen the conversation.
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Thank you so much.
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Have a good one.
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Such a great question.
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Yes.
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And so important.
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We can't not talk about these things, but we have to find a way to do it.
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And then when you say you're doing it in another language, it adds a level of challenge that we're here today for our listeners.
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Right, Aubrey?
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Exactly.
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Absolutely.
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And we do have to keep in mind that this could be a polarizing topic.
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I personally know quite a few people who don't believe in climate change, who have very different, you know, just lots of different extremes and opinions.
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And some people who just haven't read a lot about it, aren't very knowledgeable, including myself.
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I know there's a lot that I could learn.
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So we want to keep that in mind.
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What does that mean, polarizing, Lindsay?
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You think about two poles, right?
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We have like the North pole, the South pole, things are very divided.
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People are not in the middle.
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They're on one side or the other.
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And that's where we're talking about the top of the show.
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Our politics these days are very polarizing.
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And unfortunately, climate change is a political issue.
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I personally wish it wasn't a political issue.
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I wish it was just a human issue.
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Right.
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But that's how it is.
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Yeah.
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So let's get into it, Aubrey.
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Yeah.
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So because any topic like this, whether it's politics, religion, climate change, whatever it is, if you know,
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the person you're talking to might disagree or just might not be interested for whatever reason, doesn't want to talk about it.
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The conversation might be brief, right?
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Like this listener noticed, and you might just have to change the topic, right?
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You can't insist on making the conversation longer if the other person really disagrees or really isn't interested.
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So that's the first thing sort of we're going to share some tips today about what to do,
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how to start the conversation and how to read the room so that when you're starting a potentially controversial conversation,
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you know where to take it or how if you should end it.
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Okay, good.
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So what do we need to know first?
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What should we know, Aubrey, before we approach this conversation?
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Yes.
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Our first step is to be open-minded, right?
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If there's a chance that the person you're speaking to won't agree with your opinions, we have to be careful about the language we use.
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It's really easy to say something that will give the impression
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that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong or ignorant.
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And that can just cut the connection off right before you even start the conversation, right, Lindsay?
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Yeah.
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And what would be, I don't know if this is in our plan today, but what would be some key words that would you'd be using
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that would be doing that maybe not even realizing it i think of words like obviously
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or everyone knows we all know you started with like i can't believe anyone doesn't think like
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and then you share your opinion exactly right or
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if you think x then this right so these are sweeping statements
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that could immediately shut down the connection without you even realizing it yeah exactly
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so instead the goal if we want to have a conversation about something where someone might disagree, the goal right from the outset, before you say anything, is to be open-minded,
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tolerant, inclusive of others' opinions, so that it actually is a conversation and not a lecture, not you lecturing them about what you think that they should agree with.
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Yeah, because it's not, with these really divisive issues, it's not about knowledge, right?
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It's about digging into opinions and it gets personal.
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So a lecture isn't going to
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isn't going to bring you closer in agreement exactly right so
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if you can feel within yourself
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that you're not in a position where you can be tolerant of the other side of the issue
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this is a good example i think climate change i think there would be a lot of people who feel
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so strongly one way or the other
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that they recognize like i can't have a constructive conversation a
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respectful conversation where i can listen to another opinion without disagreeing them and been getting really passionate.
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If so, this might be a topic to avoid.
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Oh, for sure. For sure.
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Yes.
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I love that.
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And then number two is read the room.
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Like this expression.
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Read the room.
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What does that mean when we read the room?
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Exactly, right?
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We're really paying attention to the body language as well as what's said of the people you're talking to.
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And right away when you first bring it up for something that's potentially divisive like this,
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potentially contentious, We read the room to see if the other person is even open to discuss it.
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Same for politics, religion, anything controversial.
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Yeah.
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So for example, you might start something, what you say, by saying a lot of us get our information on podcasts these days, right?
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So you might say, I was listening to a podcast about climate change that was pretty eye-opening.
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All right.
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And then stop.
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And then what do we do?
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Yeah.
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Then, so to read the room, you gauge their reaction, right?
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If it's positive and they seem interested, then you might continue with an interesting fact.
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So you will be able to see if they meet eye contact, depending on their tone of voice, you read all of their reactions, read their body language.
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Are they closing in like, oh, I don't feel comfortable talking about this?
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Or are they interested in opening up?
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And if it's positive, they're interested, you might say, you know, it said renewable energy is the key to a safer future.
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What do you think about that?
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So you're like sharing one detail you learned, asking their opinion, and then you again, again, gauge their reaction.
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Okay.
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And then I'm interested in what if you get kind of the downward eye contact, you get a signal when you read the room
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that they're not in agreement with you or they don't want to talk about it.
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What would you do then?
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Would you pivot?
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Yes.
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And this is where I love starting it with, and I know I've recommended this on the podcast before, but to start it with,
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I was listening to a podcast about blank because it's a very easy pivot.
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If they are clearly not interested and they just are kind of like, huh?
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Or something like they're clearly not interested.
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You could just say, what about you?
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Have you heard any interesting podcasts lately?
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And you're opening them to totally change the subject by sharing something they've listened to on a podcast.
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Or if they don't listen to podcasts, what do they know?
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Do they watch TV?
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Change the subject.
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No problem.
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You can chat about this with someone else.
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Interesting.
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So this is a connection episode today, right? because we're showing, it's kind of like politics or pivot, right?
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Do you want to talk about this with me?
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Can we have this conversation or do I need to pivot to, and I love the podcast concept, Aubrey, where it's just a medium right it's a way of
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consuming it could be tv shows i'm watching a movie what other movies have you watched lately it's a pivotable
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and question opener right it's a way we could move i like exactly it avoids
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that potential awkwardness if you broach a topic
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and they clearly don't want to talk about it
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that there might be sort of an awkward choppy transition to something else this is not
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that it's a very easy like what about you what podcast do do you love?
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No problem.
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That's pretty well thought out.
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And sometimes when we do go into these conversations, we have to have that.
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It's almost prescripted a little bit.
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We need to have some tricks up our sleeve.
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The backup if they don't want to talk about it.
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Because you're talking about relationships that could really matter.
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These aren't necessarily strangers.
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This could be a brother-in-law, sister-in-law.
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It could be someone who knows an important work contact, right?
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These could be important relationships you want to make sure you maintain, right? right hey quick question do you want to feel more confident
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when you speak english if
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and subscribe we're here five times a week to help you connect in english okay
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so we've got some really good ideas on how to pivot
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then what would be number three what would be the third tip yes
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so if it turns out someone is interested
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and wants to have this conversation it can be a sort of a mistake
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if you all of a sudden realize like actually don't really know anything about this
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so number three is just to be informed right
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if you've listened to a podcast read a couple articles then you'll have some interesting things to say
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and of course don't be
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that me monster ask questions find out about their opinion make
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like you said lindsay it's not a lecture you're finding out their opinion you're really diving deep too
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because your goal is to find out about this person
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that you care about know about want to know more about find out their opinion yeah
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and be open to not just being well informed
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but being willing to be corrected maybe make sure your your information's coming from a trustworthy source.
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Always be validating your sources.
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Always be open to learning new information, right?
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I think that's another piece that we want to make.
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Okay.
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So we want to share a couple of role plays here because we've shared that when you start this conversation, it can go two different ways.
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They might be uninterested.
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They might be interested.
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So let's share both role plays.
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First, Lindsay and I are good friends here getting a coffee together, and we're going to share what it looks like if someone is not interested in the topic.
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All right.
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So it sounds like here we're going to see a pivot, right?
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We're going to see a pivot in the conversation.
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All right.
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Let's do it.
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All right.
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So, hey, I was listening to a podcast about climate change that was pretty eye-opening.
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Oh, uh-huh.
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Well, what about you?
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Have you listened to any interesting podcasts lately?
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Yes.
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I just discovered a true crime podcast called Counter Clock that I love.
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This is so good.
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This has happened to me before, right?
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Because I love talking about interesting, controversial issues, but I'm careful to gauge, like, are they interested?
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If not, quick pivot away.
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Let's talk about something else.
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I don't want it to be uncomfortable.
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Yeah, I resonate with this.
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I've seen a real difference and it's not better or worse.
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It's just different.
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But in my social interactions on the East Coast, in New England, in a city like Boston, Cambridge, Massachusetts, heavy academic town versus Denver,
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I've seen that there's less, it's not that people believe in this or don't believe in that.
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It's not political.
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It's that there seems to be less interest in talking about these, these issues.
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And there's a lot of talk about skiing, which is great.
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Sometimes I get a little bored, but then I just have to know like this particular person, we're going to relate on this level and that has to be okay.
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And I'm going to seek out friends where I can talk about bigger issues in a more abstract way another day.
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Right.
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So it's not always just, Oh, this is going to be hot button issue
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and we're going to be attacking each other maybe it's just we don't relate on
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that level we don't connect on that level right and it's also really interesting to think about having
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lived a long time in the west i have found
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that once i really get deep i get to know someone well they are interested they are reading about it
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but in general the average person in the western u.s is less confrontational less willing to have the conversation
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that might be divisive less willing to disagree to someone to their face
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so they're avoiding the conversation because they're avoiding all of
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that interesting yeah so there could be a lot of different reasons why you'd get
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that response um denver's a city of transplant
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so people are coming from all over all over the country
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and it's interesting uh the vibe of a place right
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so right if they're coming to denver maybe they're a little more laid back
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and a little less yeah probably okay let's do the interested role play Yeah, I was going to hear as in Boston, you're getting people who are just like digging in.
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Maybe they just went to class and they studied that issue and they want to work it out in, you know, over coffee.
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They want to talk through it and see what they really think.
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You know, it's different.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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OK.
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OK, so same situation, but just two different people here.
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Right.
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So I'll start us out.
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I was listening to a podcast about climate change that was pretty eye opening.
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Oh, interesting.
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So what'd they say?
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Well, they were saying that destructive storms have become more intense and frequent because of global warming.
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I didn't realize that was an effect. Did you?
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I guess that makes sense.
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I hadn't really thought about it.
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I hadn't either.
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So I started looking into it more.
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I was reading about pollution not long ago, but I know there's a lot I don't know.
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So what else have you found out lately?
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Nice.
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So I love how this conversation is opening up
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and it all like that's the difference in the reaction where instead of like, oh, uh-huh, you were like, oh, interesting.
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What did they say?
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And from that, I'm like, oh, perfect.
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We're going to talk about this.
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And I'll continue to gauge as it goes because you might want to talk about it for a little bit, but then change the subject, or we might both be really interested and want to dive deep.
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Right.
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We just did an episode about nerding out and geeking out, right?
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There are people that are going to want to talk about any given topic for hours at a time.
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And there are some people that will entertain it for a few minutes
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and then they want to move on to their weekend or something else.
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Nothing's better or worse.
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It's just, it's just personalities.
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Yeah.
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Also the other might depend on their mood.
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How much sleep do they get?
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Are they just kind of in the zone of wanting to have a deep conversation? For sure.
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And I think the piece that we need to include here is having input.
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So I know there's something going on
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that was just in the news this week about climate change that now they're looking to, have you seen this?
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They're looking to engineer brightening clouds where they want to shoot
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moisture up into the clouds to try to mitigate the effects of global warming, like the warming temperature on Earth.
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Have you seen this?
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It's brand new.
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They just tried it out.
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Yeah.
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So having that input, this is how these conversations could start is by getting this input podcasts, newspapers, TV shows, the news, right?
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You could have this conversation instead of, oh, they were saying destructive.
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You're like, they were saying that they're shooting moisture into the clouds.
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They're like, wow, that's interesting.
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It sounds wild.
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I feel like it seems like, I'm not sure if it's going to work, but I guess the signs initially were pretty good from what I heard on the podcast.
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So any takeaway here, Aubrey, we've got a lot of interesting stuff that came out today.
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Yes, for sure.
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And I think the bottom line is when tackling a controversial topic, keep in mind that you must gauge the interest in your conversation partner, right?
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And be open-minded to their opinion, but also recognize like it's going to be sort of constantly reading the room, gauging there so that you can pivot away if needed.
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Yes, I love it.
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And then keep in mind that I think it's important what we also talked about.
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You're right.
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Sometimes people are more likely to talk about divisive issues in certain parts of the country
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or in certain mind states that they're in during the day.
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But I think it's true that some regions consider it impolite
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and threatening to even bring up these topics and others consider it fair game.
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This is how things get discussed.
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It's fair game.
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So think about where you are in the world and it'll be different.
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Yeah.
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That's a very good point.
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Oh, so interesting.
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There's a lot here today.
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I'm excited for you guys to potentially have these conversations.
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So follow these tips to gauge interest, read the room,
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and hopefully you'll be able to have people in your life who also want to dive deep into these interesting topics.
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Well, super interesting guys.
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If you love our style, hit follow on the show, or if you're over on YouTube, hit subscribe.
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All right, Aubrey, talk to you very soon.
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Awesome.
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See you next time.
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Bye.
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All right, Michelle, I loved those role plays.
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One where the other person is interested and one where they're clearly not and you need to pivot to a new topic.
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Yes, exactly.
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And I mean, this is really such an important skill to just save the connection.
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So we can eliminate that awkward feeling,
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any awkwardness and avoid offending by reading those physical and verbal cues and pivoting to a new topic if that's needed.
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Exactly.
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So guys, I'm excited for you to practice these skills in your next conversation.
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this is inevitable.
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This happens to everyone and we need to know how to just change the topic, pivot.
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And we need the phrases to do that.
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We also want to make sure that you don't miss part one and two of this series.
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So All Ears English 2673 was conversation coaching part one, how long should small talk be?
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Scroll up if you missed it.
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And what about part two, Michelle?
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Yeah.
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So part two was 2677 of all ears english
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that was called conversation coaching part two keep the conversation going
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so guys listen on listen to those
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if you haven't already again they don't need to be in order
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so don't worry about that
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and yeah this i think this is just going to be
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really really helpful right with all three parts of this series
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you are now ready to be an amazing conversationalist to yeah
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you're prepared know how to small talk to know how to keep the conversation going change the subject
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if needed amazing
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so excited to bring you this series thank you for joining
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me michelle thank you aubrey have a good one bye guys bye
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วิดีโอนี้มี 380 ประโยค และ 4034 คำ สำหรับฝึกพูดตาม ช่วงที่มีเสียงพูดยาว 20:52 ผู้พูดพูดเร็ว ประมาณ 193 คำต่อนาที จึงมีการเชื่อมเสียงและลดเสียงค่อนข้างมาก 87% ของคำอยู่ใน 3,000 คำที่ใช้บ่อยที่สุดในภาษาอังกฤษ คำศัพท์จึงตามได้ง่าย
คำศัพท์สำคัญในวิดีโอนี้
คำที่ควรเรียนรู้ 15 คำจากวิดีโอ พร้อมคำอ่านและความหมาย:
| คำศัพท์ | คำอ่าน | ความหมาย |
|---|---|---|
| topic คำนาม | /ˈtɑpɪk/ | หัวข้อ, กระทู้ |
| podcast คำนาม | /ˈpɑdˌkæst/ | พอดแคสต์, พอดคาสต์ |
| depend คำกริยา | /dɪˈpɛnd/ | พึ่ง |
| friendship คำนาม | /ˈfɹɛn(d)ʃɪp/ | มิตรภาพ |
| lecture คำนาม | /ˈlɛk.t͡ʃə/ | การบรรยาย, เล็กเชอร์ |
| dive คำกริยา | /daɪv/ | ดำ |
| cloud คำนาม | /ˈklaʊ̯d/ | เมฆ |
| phrase คำนาม | /ˈfɹeɪ̯z/ | วลี, ประโยค |
| pole คำนาม | /pəʊl/ | ขั้ว, ขั้วโลก |
| listener คำนาม | /ˈlɪs(ə)nɚ/ | ผู้ฟัง |
| ear คำนาม | /ˈɪə̯/ | หู |
| diamond คำนาม | /ˈdaɪ.ə.mənd/ | เพชร |
| connect คำกริยา | /kəˈnɛkt/ | เชื่อม, ต่อ |
| dig คำกริยา | /dɪɡ/ | ขุด |
| pollution คำนาม | /pəˈluʃən/ | มลภาวะ, มลพิษ |
กริยาวลีที่คุณจะได้ยิน
| คำศัพท์ | ความหมาย |
|---|---|
| pass away คำกริยา | เสียชีวิต |
| bring up คำกริยา | เลี้ยงดู, ฟูมฟัก |
ไวยากรณ์ในวิดีโอนี้
โครงสร้างที่ผู้พูดใช้บ่อยที่สุด พร้อมคำพูดจริงจากวิดีโอ:
| โครงสร้าง | ในวิดีโอ |
|---|---|
| Present perfect have/has + กริยาช่อง 3 — เหตุการณ์ในอดีตที่ยังเกี่ยวข้องกับปัจจุบัน | has run · have tried · haven't read |
| Relative clauses who / which + อนุประโยค — ข้อมูลเพิ่มเติมเกี่ยวกับคนหรือสิ่งของ | contentious, which is · people who don · people who just |
| Passive voice be + กริยาช่อง 3 — เน้นสิ่งที่เกิดขึ้น ไม่ใช่ผู้กระทำ | be made · is read · be informed |
การออกเสียงที่ควรระวัง
ผู้พูดใช้รูปย่อและรูปลดเสียง 124 ครั้ง เช่น don't, you're, I'm ให้พูดแบบสั้นตามที่ได้ยิน
- เสียง “th”: theoretical /ˌθi.əˈɹɛt.ɪ.kəl/, threaten /ˈθɹɛt.n̩/, trustworthy /ˈtɹʌst.wɜː.ði/
- เสียง “sh” และ “zh”: controversial /ˌkɑn.tɹəˈvɝ.ʃəl/, friendship /ˈfɹɛn(d)ʃɪp/, potentially /pəˈtɛnʃ(ə)li/, pollution /pəˈluʃən/, politician /ˌpɑ.ləˈtɪʃ.ən/
- คำยาว — ลงเสียงหนักให้ถูกพยางค์: controversial /ˌkɑn.tɹəˈvɝ.ʃəl/, potentially /pəˈtɛnʃ(ə)li/, politician /ˌpɑ.ləˈtɪʃ.ən/, naturally /ˈnæt͡ʃ.(ə.)ɹə.li/, necessarily /ˌnɛs.əˈsɛɹ.ə.li/
วิธีฝึกกับวิดีโอนี้
- ฟังวิดีโอให้จบหนึ่งรอบโดยยังไม่ต้องพูด แล้วจดคำที่ยังไม่รู้จัก
- เริ่มที่ความเร็ว 0.75× พูดตามทีละประโยค แล้วกลับไปใช้ความเร็วปกติเมื่อเริ่มคล่อง
- อัดเสียงตัวเองแล้วเทียบกับต้นฉบับ โดยสังเกตคำอย่าง topic, podcast, depend เป็นพิเศษ
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