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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang.

Very excited to introduce my guest, Dakota Johnson.

Just an amazing actress and truth teller.

And this is actually the first podcast she's ever done that she told us.

So we're very honored to have her here.

We talk about a lot of fun stuff today.

We talk about analyzing her dreams.

We talk about her receiving the Razzie for the movie Madam Web.

We talk about her new movie, The Materialist, coming out with Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal

so we really get into it a bunch of great stuff and we always like to start these interviews with

with a with a zoom from a friend of our guests

or a fan of our guests someone who's going to give me a question to ask them

so joining me now is Blake Lee he is an actor you may recognize him

from Parks and Rec he played Derek the boyfriend of April Ludgate who also had a boyfriend

so they were a thruple and that confused Leslie.

Nope.

Um, so, uh, Blake Lee is joining us.

He is great friends with Dakota and he's going to fill us in and get us ready for this interview.

Blake, hi.

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I'm so thrilled you can do this.

Hold on, let me move my head okay yeah wait do you have my book this is where it always lives

for listeners blake lee is very nicely put my book behind him in his bookshelf

and i should say he's also my editor yeah exactly exactly

you're welcome blake let's talk for a second about how we met

because i think some people will recognize you um but maybe you can let people know how we're friends, how we met.

So Aubrey Plaza and I were good friends and she brought me to a dance party at some random club in Hollywood.

And she was working on this.

It was the first season of the show, Parks, so no one had seen it yet.

So you were all out.

And I went dancing with you guys and just instantly fell in love with you.

And I don't know if you remember this, but do you remember Aubrey smashed a glass on her foot?

Cut her foot.

Cut her foot at this club.

And so you and I, like, took her into this bathroom and we're giggling and we're, like, putting her foot in the sink and we're cleaning it.

And it was just, like, it was so, one of those, like, magical nights.

And then, like, two weeks later, Aubrey called me and was like, hey, so that show that I'm doing, like, my character is going to have, like, a gay best friend.

And Amy was like, what about your gay best friend you brought dancing the other night?

And then you changed my life because I got to do the show for, you know, a handful of times.

And it was the best.

It was the best

and it's like yeah truly i feel like every time i

see you though i'm like thank you you changed my life

that was my first job my first acting job yeah and

so it was so crazy to be like to have

that i feel so lucky to that that was my first job and like it's like wild there's i still

random times people will like be like are you the gay guy from parks

and recons like i happened once like i was i was peeing at a urinal

and some like stranger was just peeing next to me

and like looked over and he was like wait are you on parks and rec this was years after i'm just

peeing next to him talking about parks i have to say

i'll never as a as a woman with female parts i'll never ever understand the etiquette of standing

and peeing next to someone it's so intimate it's really intimate

and most people are straight ahead you know i feel like

most that's i don't know most of the time it's like you i think

that that's like the universe thing is like just straight ahead

but every once in a while you get a how are you doing it's so weird it's so weird

because to be recognized in that moment it's

so vulnerable i mean it's just it's something else it's funny i know it's funny something life is funny okay

so um we're talking to dakota today And I got to tell you,

between you and me, I'm a little nervous and excited because I don't know Dakota that well.

I am a huge fan of her work.

I think she's an amazing actress.

She's so cool and speaks so slowly.

and has a vibe that I think is very like mesmerizing,

which is she seems to not worry too much about getting people's approval, but I might be projecting that.

Before we get to your question, what do you think people get wrong about her?

I think that people think she might take herself seriously and she doesn't.

She really is like so goofy and so silly.

Ben, my husband was like saying like he was like

when I was saying

that I was doing this he was saying how like I get to see a version of her

that not everyone gets to see

because we're I I'm I don't know like I make I'm

so goofy with her and like we're just stupid and

and I think it's like I think

that that's the thing I think people might think

that she's like this really serious person and she's she's not she's

so goofy it's so funny you say that

because I you know came up with all these comedians

and sketch performers and improvisers who everyone you know is like are they just hilarious all the time

and you're like no yeah no

and then conversely actors you know like you know serious actors there's a lot of people

that assume like they're very very introverted and take their themselves

and their work very seriously and that's not the case often no it's not

and i have to say i went i think yeah both times she hosted snl i was there

and she i've never seen her happier like she was like

this is the best thing on the planet i never want

to do anything else i want to be here every day and it's that like being around funny people

she just like gets off on that i think she she like is energized by like by funny people I love that.

Okay.

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Really helpful to know.

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So what do you think I should, do you have a question you want me to ask her today?

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Okay.

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So my question is, what actors did she look up to that she wasn't related to?

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Ooh, very good.

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Yeah.

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Cause you know, a lot of people, you know, you know, may not know that she comes from very successful, talented parents that we'll talk about.

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Grandparent. And grandparents.

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Step parent.

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Yes.

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Let's just name it real quick.

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Tippi Hedren, grandmother, Melanie Griffith, mom, Antonio Banderas, stepdad, Don Johnson, dad.

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That's a, that's, that's a lot. So yeah.

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Other than them.

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Other than them, who as a kid were you like, I want, you know, who did you look up to?

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All right.

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That's perfect.

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That's all we need.

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I hope that helps.

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It's so, so good.

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You're going to love her.

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And I'm so excited to hear it.

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I am so excited to do it.

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Okay.

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Thank you so much.

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I'm so so much fun thank you so much blake you're you look

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so cute is this is that bookshelf behind you real

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or are you can you imagine it was just like a yeah i'm in my it's wallpaper

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this is just flat it's flat yeah okay thank you i

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love you i love you i'll see you soon okay take

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so fun oh my god dakota is listeners dakota brought a

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puppy in first time we've had an animal in the studio

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tell me about this animal person she's um my dog and

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that uh bye new dog yeah i we rescued her on

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saturday from the santa barbara pound i didn't plan on it

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how many dogs do you have well i had a dog for 17 years he was 17 oh no

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and he died and yeah there you go oh my gosh She's a performer.

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Tokyo is checking out the mic.

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He died in December, and I was like, oh, it's going to be a while.

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But then I saw her, and I just, she's like an angel.

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What kind of dog is she?

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She's so cute.

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She's really cute.

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Wow, you are being amazing.

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Tokyo, for listeners, Tokyo is trying to get up on the mic and also lick a little bit of the water.

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Maybe, oh, look, he's getting some of the water.

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Thank you.

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Wait.

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Let's get this ASMR.

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She also hasn't peed in hours, so brace yourself.

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Okay.

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Well, we can always just hold her over the table and squeeze.

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That's normally what I do, over tables.

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I'm happy that you brought—by the way, hi.

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Hi.

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Thank you for coming and doing this.

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I'm so thrilled that you're here and um i was just saying to saying

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that like you

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and i have seen each other at different places we know a lot of the same people

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but we've never actually been able to have a one -on -one chat no i know i'm thrilled

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that it's this me too i actually was i've never done a podcast

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and i only wanted to talk with you

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because i feel quite safe yeah i'm not gonna i'm gonna

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take very good care of you okay yeah this is this podcast is should be for the listener

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and for the guest very stress -free that sounds ideal for me yeah yeah and Tokyo

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and Tokyo she is honestly she has come alive on camera

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yeah Tokyo knows how to find the lens she normally hides in the back of her crate she's really timid

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and now she's like here I am she's a show dog

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she's ready to work you're an actress just like your mom

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but you grew up with animals all the time everywhere right

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like your mom is a big animal person your grandmother was like a huge animal concert would you say

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conservationist i guess you could say that she rescued lions

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and tigers and elephants at one point did you have lions

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and tigers around she did at her house yes did you

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my mom did growing up as well yeah you did not

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I at the by the time I was alive there was

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more safety in general in the world well yeah sort of ish yeah ish

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but certainly at my at Marmar's house they were no longer

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inside the house they were in there still there she's 95 she turned 95 in January and she She's still a hat.

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Excuse me.

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She's still.

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Tokyo is chewing the end of the microphone.

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She's teething.

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So, I mean, this is why sometimes.

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Well, I mean, I don't allow pets in my office.

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And it's caused a problem, I think, with some of the younger gen. Why?

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Do you hate animals?

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I don't i love i love them but i don't have a pet

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and um i don't like pets at work

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but tell me why amy okay okay it's actually that's actually

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a really good question i feel like it's just a little too distracting

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when you're working okay and i feel

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so you're like a drill sergeant do you also keep the

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ac on full blast like really cold yes of course it's

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65 degrees in here to keep everyone awake yeah to keep everybody up

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so they can produce produce produce do you not do that

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no i mean i i i've thought about it

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because the women at paper kite at my company they have

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dogs they have great dogs they want to bring them

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and i'm even more of a hypocrite i've

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when i had suki i was allowed to bring suki into

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when we were like writing our sketch show back in the

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90s i got to bring suki into the comedy central office but i'm i'm gonna say no thanks but

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that's you um dogs are allowed in my office so

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if anyone who works for amy wants to come to tea time bring your dog bring your dog

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but wait so you grew up but you're do you say more more

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because swedish swedish yeah her her parents full full swede full swedes my brother lives in sweden

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and his kids speak swedish and so my nieces

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and nephews call their grandparents more and more yeah more more far

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and i got to meet your mom

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when i feel like sure you have we got to i

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got to see her at where a lot of blondes meet

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which is at the hair salon

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and one day um well more than once actually I've been on the same sketch as your mom

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and she's so lovely and she did something really generous

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that day she was talking to me about um skincare

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and then went home and brought back all this skincare like all this cream

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and handed it out to everyone at the salon it was really really nice

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that is so sweet I know it was really nice it was a very very beats me

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yeah um that's

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so is your mom a nice person yeah she's a generous

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nice person she's extremely generous she's always been extremely generous

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if you said to her i love your shirt she'd take it off yeah mostly

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because she loves to be naked

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and has great tits you california kids are something i mean i know

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so many of you now like maya and rashida

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and you like people

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that grew up in california where did you grow up like outside of boston okay in a suburb

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and there was like something about i used to watch movies like karate kid

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and the kids would be in school in california

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and was like what the is this life like their lockers

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are outside like it's sunny yeah they walk outside from class to class

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so i didn't fully grow up in california i was always like Like my parents divorced

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when I was six and they were both actors or are actors.

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And so I'd spend the sort of divorce deal was two weeks and two weeks.

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I was big at that time.

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So it was, I would do like two weeks on location wherever my mom was

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and then two weeks on wherever my dad was.

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And that was a lot.

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He was living full time pretty much in Colorado, just in Aspen for a long time.

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And then he moved to San Francisco.

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So the first full year of school that I did in a school, not like traveling with a tutor, was fourth grade.

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So when you think of your hometown, where do you think of?

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I think of Woody Creek, Colorado.

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What was that like?

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The best.

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Yeah.

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It was the best.

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We like rode dirt bikes all over.

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And I lived in Woody Creek, and there were two girls my age that lived up the road.

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So those are the girls that I would know.

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And one of them I don't keep in touch with as much, but if we saw each other, it'd be the same.

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But it was just fun.

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We'd ride horses to each other's house and tie them up outside or dirt bikes, and we'd snowboard.

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Well, I actually hated snowboarding so much.

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To grow up in Colorado and hate skiing and snowboarding is… Yeah, I was just in Colorado.

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Tina and I just did a show at Red Rocks.

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Fun.

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So fun, although it was pouring rain and 32 degrees.

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Not fun still really fun but everyone had like everyone had their outdoor gear

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so set like yeah every single person

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and it all comes in like a tiny little bag it's

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just like yeah it was like pouring rain they're like let's

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just go to the rain like they knew exactly how to

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be outside yeah they love outside yeah I love outside you love outside

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but no skiing how come because it sucks yeah and it's cold and it hurts.

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Yeah, it really hurts.

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I have nightmares about skiing.

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I had one recently.

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I'm just remembering it now.

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Oh, tell us about it.

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Well, no. That's not interesting.

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When people talk about their dreams.

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You're right.

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People talking about their dreams.

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It's like people talking about their improv shows.

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You're like, and then what happened?

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Yeah.

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I'm fascinated by dreams because I think we're similar in that I love sleep.

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Oh God, so much.

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And I know you do too.

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Yeah.

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And I've seen you talk about it.

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And to get to dreams, you have to get to sleep.

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Like, but I know that that sounds stupid, but most people don't dream.

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They don't sleep well enough to even dream, which is very sad. That is really sad.

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Yeah.

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I actually had a dream the other night.

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Sorry.

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Let's hear it.

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Let's hear it.

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Chris was like, that's a really good pitch for a movie

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so maddie healy from the 1975 yes familiar was in my dream great

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and he was murdering people yeah

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and he was he was himself he was himself he was maddie healy as himself

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and when the the people were looking for him they were cops maybe

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or i don't know he would turn into a piece of asparagus

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and people just run past him like that kind of thing he'd just be like

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it's really good this is a really good idea it's like a24 would be all over

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that and i was trying to find him i was like maddie honey

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and i just saw like these two kind of poles in a bed and i was like, Maddie?

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And the sheets came down and it was him as an asparagus and Angelina Jolie as an asparagus.

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What?

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She's in this too?

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Let's make this movie.

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They were getting married.

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And then they left in a helicopter together as asparagus.

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That is such a weird ass dream.

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I know.

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You might be getting too much sleep because you get a lot of sleep.

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Let's ask America.

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Okay, so America.

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let's ask dakota how much sleep do you get a night

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if i am not working i can it's like somewhere somewhere between 10

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and 13 hours incredible incredible but like 10 is normal for me

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and any sleep aids do you take anything to go to sleep no incredible i that's aspirational

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because you've traveled so much and been around

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so much you must have a good sense of like how to acclimate quickly to wherever you are?

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Do you think you do?

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I try to just not think about it.

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I heard Arnica is really good for jet lag.

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Smearing it where?

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Oh, in your vagina.

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Put it right in your vagina.

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You wake up and you're in another country.

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You don't even have to get on the plane.

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It's crazy.

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This is a new trick.

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But you can swallow Arnica? little pellets yeah like homeopathic yeah

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okay are you a homeopathic gal like do you like yeah what kind of stuff do you like

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that is pellets and creams and stuff i mean i feel like

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that again is i mean i don't mean to to generalize

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but it does feel like when i move to california

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and i meet california kids they love they're like i'm not vaccinated

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and i yeah a lot of that never take antibiotics i never take

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and i don't believe in medicine but i do think

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that you know tea tree oil will get rid of my gallstones or whatever

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but do you are you a homeopathic person do you do

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do you take supplements i take supplements yeah i take um supplements like xanax

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and um just like natural just natural things yeah um

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but uh did you like can you i know this is a weird question

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but i wanted to talk about it with you

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because what i love so much about you is the way that you're able to like handle silence

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yeah how did you learn how to do

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that i think i learned early on in interview situations that

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if i speak out of context

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or like it doesn't go well i think i just have been

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so scared of saying anything but answering the question or not

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or trying to not answer the question very very like honest upfront and truthful

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when you do answer questions I know I don't find you evasive at all no yeah I'm not

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so is that always been your although you know what I did once do

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that lie detector test for Vanity Fair I'm doing one again did you beat it I lied

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and I passed well let's be honest I mean

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that it's not a professional is it running do you think

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there's a real professional person I mean they have them dressed up as a suit

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but we don't know I've watched I've watched other people, and they're like, that's a lie.

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That's a lie.

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And you see the thing, and I fully lied.

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And they didn't catch you.

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No. Do you think you have low blood pressure?

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I really, yeah, I do.

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That must be it.

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Truly like you.

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I would be a good spy.

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You would.

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Yeah.

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I'll do that now.

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You heard it here first.

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You're in Tokyo.

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You're in Tokyo, out on the road.

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But it's true because there is some kind of, you're right, there's like a um an energy where i don't feel a

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grasping energy from you ever no that's kind thank you i

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don't want to have a grasping energy well a lot of people don't want to have it

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but they just do like they just can't figure out you know it's like they're just managing their anxiety in

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that way and it comes out in that way

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but i've always felt that about you that you don't have

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that or or you're really good at at managing it i definitely have anxiety i

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but it makes me hyper present

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so maybe that's what it is oh say more about

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that that's cool i don't know it makes me just like i'm

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so here i'm

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so i'm not my brain doesn't go to a million places

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trying to figure out what to say next i'm just like very present

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and that happens also on you know like talk shows

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or things i get nervous

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and i have to go on stage i have terrible stage fight you do oh my god

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oh my like an awards show is my nightmare i have to do breathing exercises before like

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if i have to present something

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or give a speech thinking about it makes me what is

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it what is it what's the like what's the what would

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be the nightmare you'd have about it what's the fear you'd

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uh say something wrong it's like a physical manifestation like my kneecaps start quivering yeah

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and I and my voice gets kind of shaky and I get like

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i'm like say if i have to give a speech i'll be like i don't know how to read

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you're like i'm so sorry i can't read i suddenly don't know how to read

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so what is it about the camera

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and acting in front of the camera where you don't get that feeling i have no idea yeah

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i feel like very very free and safe it's really weird

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do you think it's like from growing up on set like do you you kind of explained

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that when you were a kid sets were home base yeah i mean i saw

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that i thought they were the most magical places oh my

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god i loved being on set what did you like about

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it i loved everything like i just thought it was the

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coolest i loved the trailers i loved base camp i loved set i loved like the the ring of

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when it would be rolling and I'd be so excited to go in

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when it's when the red light went off and go

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and see what my mom looked like and what clothes she was wearing

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and I guess that's how it felt it started to build

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in my mind as a sacred space it's like a safe place yeah

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and wherever the cameras were in the scene

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because it is really it's like a beautiful magical space if you want it to be.

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And what was your first professional job?

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Well, I guess it was the social network when I was 18, 19.

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But I did a part in a movie that my mom was in when I was nine.

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Yeah.

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And I took that very seriously.

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I was a professional.

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You did.

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You analyzed your dreams.

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I worked with a dialect coach to have a little Southern accent.

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And did you, what do you remember about that?

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Did you feel like you nailed it at nine?

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I think I nailed it.

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Yeah.

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I think I felt like I nailed it as well.

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And I loved it.

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Yeah. So much.

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That's cool.

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Do you feel like it was in your blood?

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Like, do you always feel like ever since you were a little kid, like it was like inevitable that you were going to be an actor?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think so.

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Definitely for me and it's funny I my siblings my oldest brother acts sometimes

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and he went to he studied acting

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and um my one of my sisters is an amazing sort of photographer

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and my other sister wants to be a director

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so it's definitely in our family

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but like my mom my dad my grandmother my grandfather they were all actors yeah

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and like working actors all with their own special magic sauce I also am remembering to

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that I met your mom I saw your mom again

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when your stepdad hosted SNL because I was there Antonio Banderas your stepdad what year was

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that was probably 2000 and I'm pretty bad with this kind of stuff

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but it was pre -baby for me so it was like 2000 maybe four

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or five six something like that and delightful

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so nice um smelled great yeah always yeah

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and she wears mousse de cartier i don't know if they make

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that anymore even mousse de cartier mousse that means the mousse cart

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and what did antonio wear

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because he smelled great too um we don't know i don't know

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but actually now i think he has his own cologne

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or like perfume line and it's so cute

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and funny to me it's like stallion by antonio banderas or something perfect or like

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dark cloud yes sexy cloud sexy dark cloud sexy stallion yes

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he did a scene i did a scene with him

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and chris parnell on snl that i loved where we were like describing wine

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and just describing like the adjectives of wine which is very similar

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and there was a line where he's like uh do i sense a hint of sword play

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that's funny you are so great on snl

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and i know you loved doing it what did you love about doing it i love snl

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so much well you know i like i mean even moments

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sitting here talking to you i'm like i can't believe i'm

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sitting here talking to you come on i know i'm serious it's

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so it was such a huge part of shaping like my my wanting to work in comedy at all

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and then the the fact that i've even

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gotten to do it once but twice like

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that is the it's my favorite place in the world it's

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that same kind of thing of like I want to be in there yeah

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but are you nervous you're not so nervous okay great

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so nervous but push past in like a fit of glee absolutely I love it

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what do you love about it i think i love how

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um everyone is is just trying to make the best thing

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and the funniest thing and and everyone is so smart

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and the energy there is is is like it's the most important thing anyone has ever done in their lives

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and yet we're it's just funny yeah it is like a

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theater camp vibe totally it's like oh no we have a show we have to do it yeah yeah

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and then i really like all of the like behind the scenes gossip

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and the like these people don't get along and this is really hard

487

and everyone's really tired and drinking like going

488

when i i was there last year

489

and going around in like the first couple days

490

and meeting with all the writers and had it was like 8 p .m

491

and everyone had just gotten there and like i can't imagine i can't imagine

492

that like everyone had really big iced coffees

493

that they just got just starting just starting

494

that was like the hours of

495

that show are like left over from cocaine days basically i think

496

but they're just it's crazy that you don't start writing

497

or i mean some people do

498

but the the majority of people don't start writing until tuesday night

499

and we even talk about there's this feeling

500

that happens sometimes on tuesday nights which is this panic

501

and you don't know where it's coming from

502

and then you're like oh this is just writing night fear yeah

503

and you walk around and everyone's pitching you ideas

504

that they haven't even written yet yeah yeah

505

but it's it's a magical place it's like disneyland it's my

506

most favorite place i've ever been i just i don't know what it is i love it

507

so much i watch it all the time i go back and watch

508

your sketches i watch i watch it all it's very weird i should stop i should go

509

is tokyo asleep yeah tokyo has completely fallen asleep

510

and i mean listeners you can't see

511

but it's just the cutest dog in the world she's sitting on dakota's lap

512

so special You really are making me think that.

513

Do you know what's funny?

514

Animals should still not be allowed in the workplace.

515

Did you notice my nails?

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Oh, yeah.

517

I have a French manicure.

518

Ooh.

519

Which is very not me.

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But Tokyo has one.

521

I thought it would be funny if we had the same nails.

522

Oh, yeah.

523

Tokyo does have them.

524

Oh, come on.

525

Oh, my God.

526

Come on.

527

I think it's because she has a calcium deficiency.

528

Yeah.

529

But she has a little natural French manicure.

530

She's a little tip.

531

Boy, she's cute.

532

She's really cute.

533

Anyway.

534

So we do this thing where we talk well behind people's backs.

535

and we ask someone that knows our guest, you know, what they think I should ask you and how to ruin their life.

536

We ask, yeah, we all get all the dirt.

537

And I talked to Blake. Did he tell you?

538

No, but I heard you were going to do that.

539

And I think he thought it was a surprise.

540

Oh, so he didn't tell you?

541

He didn't tell me.

542

He's such a good boy.

543

I know.

544

He's such a nice person.

545

What did you talk about?

546

So Blake wanted me to ask you, who besides your family, when you were growing up who did you look up to as an actor actor

547

and actress like who did you like what actor and actress did you admire Blake wanted to ask that

548

he's did he google like most basic questions to ask an actress

549

that's the question you can you can say pass um okay no I'll answer it I I,

550

uh, recently I actually exchanged texts while I got a voice note from Sandra Bullock.

551

Wow.

552

I know, because I don't know if you know, but I won the Razzie for Worst Actress.

553

Oh my God, you did?

554

Congrats.

555

Thank you.

556

That's a really good, um, there's a lot of good people that have won that.

557

Thank you so much.

558

What did you win it for?

559

Uh, this really good movie called Madame Webber.

560

Oh my God, yes.

561

I don't know if you've heard of it.

562

And you, did you accept the Razzie?

563

Oh yeah.

564

Ugh i asked if they'd send it to me that's incredible um

565

but sandra bullock sent me a voice note being like i heard you are in the razzy club

566

and we should have brunch we should have a like a monthly brunch um

567

because i guess she won that when like the year that she won the oscar

568

as well are you kidding it was like in the same year i think

569

but i freaked out getting this message from her because

570

that she's so iconic yes yes to me as like a movie star i was like oh my god

571

it was just crazy but

572

but i i don't know like i i grew up being fascinated by first of all younger actresses

573

that worked with my mom

574

so like thora birch christina ricci i was always like you can do

575

that as like a teenager because i really wanted to and then diane keaton i was obsessed with um

576

still obsessed with um and then like snl yeah a lot of snl yeah but yeah great question blake

577

I mean can I can I talk about that Razzie thing for one more second though because

578

why I love talking about that with you is because I think your career is so

579

super diverse and always interesting and you pick really big movies

580

and you pick small movies

581

and it feels like you pick what you want to do

582

like it feels like you really go with your gut about what you want to make.

583

And I feel like you handling it that way is the most powerful and like interesting way because if we're lucky,

584

we're going to have a really long career.

585

Like that's the goal, right?

586

Is to stick around.

587

Yeah.

588

So this idea of like, we have had our last, you know, our last best thing or that this thing didn't hit, but I don't know.

589

How do you ride the wave of

590

that like you have a sense of humor i guess about your work that's important yeah it's

591

so it's i think about this a lot because

592

and i know you you have experienced this

593

because everybody is going through it all the time now

594

but you you like we don't have control over how something

595

turns out yeah anymore no one does like very very few directors or actors like tom cruise maybe does

596

yeah you know like but i don't i've signed on to a movie

597

that is by the end of shooting it a completely different script than what i attached to

598

and that is a wild thing to to like a crazy journey to go on as a as an artist

599

because you're like okay i'm doing something like with my actual body

600

and my actual mind and my heart my emotions i'm like using things

601

and and it's just being taken and fucked with

602

but you can't do anything about it like what am i

603

gonna do fucking cry about madam webb no no i'm gonna laugh you're gonna go to the razzies

604

and you're gonna spike the you're gonna have an in -person

605

i wish they did they should oh my god i wish they did

606

that would be amazing if you went there

607

and then you just gave an epic speech

608

and then you just spiked the award

609

and you just like you just threw it down sandra bullock said she asked for the award

610

and like picked it up and then they called her

611

and asked her to give it back

612

because they only had one by the way who who is

613

the razzie committee i know i'd love to i'd love to

614

i'd love to hear i'd love to have the razzie committee show themselves i know

615

so i'm going to do a lip balm break Like, it's really a funny thing.

616

But, I mean, I feel like you probably had to figure that out with Fifty Shades of Grey, right?

617

Yeah.

618

That was another thing.

619

It was like, okay, this project, it's a big project, I'm signing on, and now I have to give up control.

620

And now I'm in this, and it's going to be a lot of years of my life, and I've got to figure out how to.

621

Yeah, that was a wild journey.

622

Very, very interesting.

623

That was another version of signing on to something that was one thing and it turned out to be another.

624

But I'm so grateful.

625

I was going to say, with time, how do you look at it now?

626

I mean, I'm so grateful for that experience.

627

The first movie with Sam Taylor Johnson directing was really extraordinary as an experience, extraordinary.

628

And I think the movie is as good a version of it as it could be.

629

Yeah.

630

But it was challenging.

631

I signed on to a script that was different than what we ended up shooting,

632

written by a different person. And then you're attached.

633

You're signed a contract, so you're in.

634

Signed on to do it with a different actor.

635

It was like a different thing, and then it all changed.

636

and i was just in it and um but it was

637

so i was so young i was i think i turned 24

638

while we were shooting wow and i was

639

so like brave i just feel proud of myself for being brave

640

and being um interested in like i don't know it just felt wild

641

and it also like there were no intimacy coordinators then

642

or anything like that that was not that long ago too like no

643

that a lot has changed yeah yeah

644

and there was an expectation of just like figure it out

645

yourself in real time in front of everyone it's intense yeah

646

it was it was a lot who has been your favorite director someone

647

that you just think when you know you've worked with a lot of great directors

648

and a lot of great actors who's someone that

649

when you think about you think that was just that experience was

650

so good i loved it i've had that a lot

651

and i've had the opposite a lot yeah but i loved celine song

652

she is i love her i'm so excited about this spectacular director

653

so people who don't know she she wrote

654

and directed past lives with um greta lee a few years ago

655

and she is the did she write your new film

656

or just she wrote and directed the materialist it's her second film

657

and it is coming out it's actually i mean it's the

658

reason why you're here let's be honest that's true it is

659

june 13th thank you june 13th i've been trained tell me

660

why you love celine she's she's an incredible director she's amazing

661

she comes well her she has a her background is she's a playwright um

662

and i think there's a different sort of control

663

that she has over what she wants

664

which is really such a relief like it's nice to work

665

with somebody who knows exactly what they want from every single frame of the movie i was like oh yes

666

so do you think she's you mean she's had it in her head she's like storyboarded it in her head

667

or she's just able to communicate what she wants she's able to communicate what she wants emotionally

668

and we we spent a couple months going through every line of the script

669

and she would she was like this is what she means here is this

670

and yeah what do you think about like we we just talked about it we talked through everything and

671

and then on the day we it was like we had

672

one brain have you ever directed i have directed a short yeah

673

that blake was in actually um do you want to do

674

more i would yeah yeah do you want to direct primarily

675

i like it right now more than acting for sure i

676

think about you for things all the time really what should

677

we work on together i have a i have a i have something

678

that i think you would love email it to me right

679

now i'll read it okay i'll email it to you later great

680

that would be

681

so fun i would love to work with you i mean i feel well we should talk about materialists

682

because it is a movie about, you know, two men being in love with you.

683

Congratulations on your first documentary.

684

Thank you.

685

Pedro Pascal, Chris Evans, and you, what is the movie about?

686

The movie is about a woman who's a matchmaker in New York City, which is funny because Celine was a matchmaker in New York City for six months.

687

This is where the movie comes from she did it on the side to pay the bills

688

because she was like a struggling playwright so i play lucy who's the matchmaker

689

and she's just the best at her job

690

and really good at sort of assigning people as mates um based on pretty surface level criteria like height

691

and income and um hairline

692

like that's what people are out there looking for it's not about a soul connection it's about like,

693

do you tick my boxes of what I want, what I think my life should look like?

694

And she then kind of goes on her own journey.

695

What you would think is that she doesn't really have, she's not really invested in people's souls, but you realize she is and she cares about these people

696

that she's working with and how their lives turn out and if they're happy.

697

And then she has to kind of figure out for herself

698

what is what is more important really truly in this life is it to achieve the life

699

that you think you want or is it to actually be seen

700

and loved it's interesting you say that

701

because it feels like oh of course you want be right of course you You want to be seen and loved, but there is something about.

702

in life how relationships help you get some get to be some version of yourself

703

that you want like whether it's you want to be you want to have kids

704

or you want to be married or you want to live in france

705

or whatever is the version of the thing of of your fantasy of your life relationships help you get

706

that and you're right sometimes it's a trade -off like i get this thing

707

but i don't get this thing or i feel seen but

708

and loved but the person doesn't fit into some version of my dream life yeah yeah

709

or my ideal whatever what do you when you have to do sex scenes like

710

how do you psych yourself up for

711

that amy i don't have to you don't i'm like always

712

psyched up for sex you're psyched yeah fuck yeah psyched up is

713

that a thing what do you mean you have to like I'm psyched, but you know like psych up today.

714

You're like 7 30 a .m.

715

Let's do it.

716

Like that's a lot.

717

Let's go to pound town everybody.

718

Let's get the lights in here.

719

It's a lot.

720

Oh god.

721

You're psyched.

722

I recently did a movie a few months ago

723

and we had an intimacy coordinator on set

724

and it was the first time i've ever worked with one

725

and she was really great great it was

726

so cool it was what did she add because i'm

727

so used to i'm

728

so used to just you know like it's a sex scene

729

it's not no i don't like i see it doesn't feel

730

most people don't know i'm being serious like i'm not like

731

no all right a fake sex scene is a complete it's like being an astronaut like

732

so few people have done it that's really true you're right

733

so i'm sorry it's okay it's not you know okay let

734

me yeah you want me to explain of course okay so a sex scene

735

hold on i gotta write i gotta get this down you're gonna take notes i'm gonna take notes go ahead

736

when two actors pretend right that they're having sex yeah

737

and you do all the things except have sex right

738

and that's important you have to make sounds like you're having sex right

739

and you're not yet yet um so

740

when you approach the scene you're like today is the day

741

you don't feel stressed you feel like how do you feel about it

742

and then what was the difference with this coordinator what made it different um

743

because you're right you've done a lot

744

and you know how handle yourself during it i guess is

745

what you're saying yeah well first i think it depends on like who is the character

746

and who's the character supposed to be to the audience is she like a super

747

idolized hot girl is she like a housewife is she lonely

748

is she scared is she is she uh conservative you know like it doesn't

749

so that's obviously character work but then so like certain And prep, I guess, would go into it.

750

Like, I want to feel good in my body.

751

Yeah.

752

If I'm showing my body.

753

I've never felt like my mom raised me to be really, really proud of my body and love my body.

754

So I've always felt so grateful for that, especially in my work, because I can use it and it feels, like, real.

755

How did she do that?

756

because i think a lot of mothers want to make sure they do

757

that for their daughters but they don't know how to do

758

that in practice would it be the way she would speak about it with you

759

or was there other ways that she made you feel

760

that way i think it was the way she spoke about it with me

761

and also she was very like honest and open about um body stuff

762

and yeah and like getting my period you know like really good about it yeah

763

and like i have friends whose mothers never spoke to them about

764

that stuff and it's so hard

765

and sad just got very warm on my lap she may have peed on me oh my gosh

766

but i don't think so it's okay it's all right and listeners tokyo not me

767

i just

768

if you're not watching it just got very warm on my

769

lap it was not me it was not me um um

770

so okay so uh she also talked to me about sex

771

and like how precious and important and to you know whatever

772

so i guess in my great in my work yeah i i it's something

773

that i feel brave with yeah and that i feel

774

when it's when it's used the right way in a story it's important

775

so I've always just like done the simulated sex scene

776

but now with the intimacy coordinator was like do you want

777

a Pilates ball between you guys for the thrusting movement just to get some core workout

778

and I was like what but then we're gonna be like

779

so far away from each other and I was not

780

and we didn't end up using that

781

but a lot of it also is like there are times

782

when I've done a sex scene where I'm by myself

783

because I'm only in the frame

784

so I'm just like like gyrating on my own looking at a tennis ball off camera yeah exactly

785

or like slamming myself into a headboard

786

and then on the other side of the camera is like just a bunch of crew guys

787

yeah with their heads down okay

788

but I'm gonna ask you a bunch of things very quickly this is a speed round

789

and i want you to tell me your thoughts okay tokyo

790

has woken up oh wait tokyo's coming oh hi okay um

791

olivia coleman the best human on the planet on the planet yes

792

that the the film you guys did together was isn't

793

so good lost daughter's so great oh she's amazing just seems smart

794

and funny she's the funniest person and so much fun yeah

795

so much fun okay um

796

and you love reading i love reading i do too how

797

do you have a number of books you try to read

798

a year like do you try my bedside table right now

799

is maybe 27 books it's ridiculous great they're just piles

800

and piles of books

801

that i'm trying to get through a lot of them are like therapy books

802

and then stop it um

803

and then i'm fired i don't work for you well i

804

mean this is exact i mean this is what always happens right is like animals are super cute

805

and then they're animals they can't help it i mean look

806

how cute this dog is i think you should get a

807

puppy absolutely i would rather get a kick in the face

808

a case of snakes than a puppy okay no done

809

and then oh tokyo you are very cute though you're very

810

cute i talked to you about olivia coleman i have i

811

have written down here work -life balance right now i'm just

812

scratching tokyo okay this dog is winning me over this this dog is really nice i know

813

she's very nice go wee -wees don't tell her to go

814

what are you listening to right now watching uh checking out that's like

815

when you want to check out

816

and laugh what do you where do you go what do you listen okay this is a very weird thing

817

that i've been doing great love it i don't watch reality television same i barely watch it

818

but i have found a show called farmer wants a wife

819

have you heard of it no oh my god oh my

820

god nightmare please tell me it's a nightmare okay a farmer like scrolls through a list of women

821

and picks eight of them they all come there's four farmers

822

okay eight women per farmer eight women per farmer yes then

823

they go on the odds are stacked 10 minutes per woman okay

824

and then they speed date on a farm

825

or in like a studio in like a farm in like a barn set yeah

826

and then they see if they have a connection

827

and then he has to choose five women to bring back to his farm

828

and date them all for six weeks oh my god it's

829

insane first of all i'm just horrified by the amount he

830

gets to pick from he gets to pick from five it's ridiculous

831

and do they

832

and is a lot of his choosing about what kind of

833

like how is she going to help me with the farm

834

that's the crazy thing is he makes them do a lot

835

of manual labor i'm like what is going on well he

836

wants a wife farmer wants a wife farmer wants a wife

837

and they're like you know i really like that she's from the city

838

but i don't know how she'll do out on the tractor it's

839

so i don't know what accent that was i don't know where

840

that farmer's from your dialect coach he's coming back your nine -year -old yeah call her up yeah whoa okay

841

and what do you like about watching it are do you like

842

because you're outraged by it or yes yeah and i can't stop i feel really uncomfortable like deeply uncomfortable

843

but then i keep going

844

and do you get invested like who is he gonna pick yeah

845

and has there ever been any drama between the girls of

846

course yeah do they sabotage each other at all like they definitely talk some shit

847

and they like gang up on each other

848

and some of them are just they're just nuts yeah

849

and some of them are like i'm like oh they'd be

850

a good match i really get along do you ever get

851

a vibe like wow they're gonna be together like sometimes like

852

it's a good it's a good match yeah farmer wants a wife okay dakota thank you

853

so much for doing this thanks for having me thank you for coming on your first podcast

854

that means a lot and you are so great and i just

855

so appreciate you coming thank you for having me

856

and tokyo thank you for coming you're our one and only dog

857

because we have to put a sign up outside after this this is i'm

858

so there's a lot going on good girl dakota thank you

859

again thank you i love spending the day with you thank

860

you i loved it yay let's do it every day okay

861

that was really that was a great interview dakota is

862

so fun and funny and she did bring a dog

863

and i just i i just want to say i love

864

animals i think you should adopt animals from shelters i had a dog for a long time

865

so don't let my uh resistance to having a dog on the podcast lead you astray

866

and speaking of strays there's a lot of strays to adopt um

867

so please adopt an animal today um

868

but maybe just check with your boss about whether or not you should bring that animal to work.

869

Um, because you know, the answer might be no. Um, but, uh, just please know,

870

I just love animals and, and Tokyo, thank you for coming on the podcast and,

871

um, we'll check in with you next time.

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Bye.

873

You've been listening to Good Hang.

874

The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss -Berman, and me, Amy Poehler.

875

The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite.

876

For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullin, and Alea Zanaris.

877

For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss -Berman.

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Original music by Amy Miles.

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farmer /ˈfɑɹ.mɚ/ (sustantivo) — granjero, granjera. A person who works the land and/or who keeps livestock; anyone engaged in agriculture on a farm.
actress /ˈæk.tɹɪs/ (sustantivo) — actriz. A female who performs on the stage or in films.
podcast /ˈpɑdˌkæst/ (sustantivo) — podcast, pódcast. A program, especially an audio program, produced on a regular basis, delivered over the Internet in a compressed digital format and designed for playback on…
nail /neɪl/ (sustantivo) — uña, garra. The horny plate or appendage at the ends of the digits of various animals, including most reptiles, birds, and mammals (both nonhuman and human).
listener /ˈlɪs(ə)nɚ/ (sustantivo) — oyente, escucha. Someone who listens, especially to a speech or a broadcast.
wherever /(h)wɛɹˈɛvɚ/ — dondequiera, donde sea. Regardless of the place in, at or to which.
magical /ˈmæd͡ʒ.ɪ.kəl/ (adjetivo) — mágico. Of, relating to, or by means of magic.
generous /ˈd͡ʒɛn(ə)ɹəs/ (adjetivo) — generoso. Noble in behaviour or actions; principled, not petty; kind, magnanimous.
nightmare /ˈnaɪt.mɛɚ/ (sustantivo) — pesadilla, mal sueño. A very unpleasant or frightening dream.
cloud /ˈklaʊ̯d/ (sustantivo) — nube, nimbo. A visible mass of water droplets suspended in the air.
sexy /ˈsɛksi/ (adjetivo) — sexy. Having sex appeal; attractive.
script /skɹɪpt/ (sustantivo) — escrito, escripto. A writing; a written document.
grateful /ˈɡɹeɪtf(ə)l/ (adjetivo) — agradecido. Of a person or their actions, feelings, etc.: expressing gratitude or appreciation; appreciative, thankful.
brave /bɹeɪv/ (adjetivo) — bravo. Strong in the face of fear; courageous.
dirt /dɝt/ (sustantivo) — tierra. Soil or earth.

Phrasal verbs que vas a escuchar

talk about (verbo) — hablar de, hablar sobre. Used to draw attention to the speaker's characterization of someone or something.
come on /ˌkʌm ˈɒn/ — hala, vamos. Come along with me; join me in going.
go on /ˈɡoʊˌɒn/ (verbo) — continuar. To continue in extent.
think about /ˈθɪŋk əˌbaʊt/ (verbo) — pensar en, ocurrírsele. To ponder.
grow up (verbo) — crecer. To mature and become an adult.
check out (verbo) — investigar, chequear. To record the departure or withdrawal of someone or something (such as guests, employees, books, etc.).
come from (verbo) — ser de. To have as one's origin, birthplace or nationality.
figure out (verbo) — averiguar, captar. To come to understand; to discover or find a solution; to deduce.

Pronunciación a tener en cuenta

El hablante usa 287 contracciones y formas reducidas, como I'm, don't, you're. Dilas en su forma corta, tal como las oyes.

Los sonidos de “th”: grandmother /ˈɡɹæn(d)ˌmʌðɚ/, thrill /θɹɪl/, theater /ˈθi(ə)tɚ/, breathe /bɹiːð/, grandfather /ˈɡɹæn(d)ˌfɑðɚ/
Los sonidos de “sh” y “zh”: congratulations /kənˌɡɹæt͡ʃəˈleɪʃ(ə)nz/, gosh /ɡɑːʃ/, sheet /ʃit/, casual /ˈkæʒ(u)əl/, emotion /ɪˈməʊ.ʃən/
Palabras largas — cuida el acento: intimacy /ˈɪn.tɪ.mə.si/, ridiculous /ɹɪˈdɪk.jə.ləs/, anxiety /æŋˈzaɪ.əti/, congratulations /kənˌɡɹæt͡ʃəˈleɪʃ(ə)nz/, extraordinary /ɪksˈtɹɔːrdɪn(ə)ɹi/

Cómo practicar con este vídeo

Escucha el vídeo entero una vez sin hablar y anota las palabras que no conoces.
Empieza a velocidad 0,75×, haz shadowing frase por frase y vuelve a la velocidad normal cuando te resulte fácil.
Grábate y compara con el original, prestando atención a palabras como farmer, actress, podcast.

Gramática en este vídeo

Las estructuras que más usa el hablante, con las palabras exactas del vídeo:

Estructura	En el vídeo
Oraciones condicionales if + oración, will/would + verbo — una condición y su resultado	if we saw each other, it'd be
“Used to” used to + verbo — un hábito o estado pasado que ya no es cierto	used to watch · used to i · used to just you
Present perfect continuous have/has been + -ing — una acción que empezó antes y continúa	i've been doing · You've been listening
Present perfect have/has + participio pasado — una acción pasada que sigue importando ahora	i've never seen · we've had · have seen

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Shadowing es una técnica de aprendizaje de idiomas respaldada por la ciencia, desarrollada originalmente para la formación de intérpretes profesionales y popularizada por el políglota Dr. Alexander Arguelles. El método es simple pero poderoso: escuchas audio en inglés nativo y lo repites en voz alta de inmediato, como una sombra que sigue al hablante con solo 1-2 segundos de retraso. A diferencia de la escucha pasiva o los ejercicios de gramática, el shadowing obliga a tu cerebro y músculos de la boca a procesar y reproducir simultáneamente patrones de habla reales. Las investigaciones muestran que mejora significativamente la precisión de la pronunciación, la entonación, el ritmo, el habla conectada, la comprensión auditiva y la fluidez al hablar, convirtiéndola en una de las metodologías más efectivas para la preparación del IELTS Speaking y la comunicación en inglés en el mundo real.

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