シャドーイング練習: a talk with kendall jenner - 動画で英語スピーキングを学ぶ
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It is always, always fun to bring a friend on the show.
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And I'm so delighted to be bringing a friend on today, Miss Kendall Jenner.
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You know her.
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You love her.
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She's Kendall Jenner.
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For the one person out there that maybe doesn't know, I almost feel like I don't even know how to introduce her because of course you know her.
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But just in case there's one person out there who doesn't have a phone, Um, Kendall Jenner is a model entrepreneur and media personality.
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She's the founder of 818 tequila, which I've enjoyed on many nights out.
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And actually 818 tequila has collaborated with my coffee brand, Chamberlain coffee.
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And we made an espresso martini kit, which was a delightful experience, um, and a delightful drink.
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And again, I've had many evenings, uh, with those 818 Tequila has already won over 32 international tasting awards,
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including Best Reposado Tequila from the World Tequila Awards, Platinum Award from the Sip Awards, Chairman's Trophy from the Ultimate Spirits Challenge,
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Triple Gold from the Micro Liquor Spirit Awards, Top 100 Spirits from the Ultimate Spirits Challenge, and Innovation Award from the Sip Awards.
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So it's safe to say
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you should you should try some 818
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if you haven't kendall is also an incredible model she's walked
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many many shows been on the cover of vogue internationally many times harper's bizarre allure the list goes on um
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and it all started on the show that we all know and love Keeping Up With The Kardashians in E-Series, which is now on Hulu.
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And we've fallen in love with Kendall over the years.
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Kendall has been in the public eye since she was 10 years old, which is something that gives me the chills to think about.
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I can't imagine what that experience was like for her.
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And even though we're friends, I've not really discussed that with her very much.
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So I'm excited to learn more about what that experience was like for her and how she manages,
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you know, being one of the most well-known public figures in the world
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and how she manages being a part of one of the most famous families in the world.
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Because although I think there are very many beautiful things about that experience and things that add to her life and,
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you know, make her life more fulfilling, I can imagine there are also a slew of challenges.
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And I'm excited to discuss these things with Kendall.
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She's a delightful person, a very sweet person, a very generous person.
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And I just, I just absolutely adore her.
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And I'm excited that she's on the show and I'm excited to, to chat with her.
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We're going to chat it up, just girls chatting and let's bring her in.
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Here's Kendall Jenner.
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I think my first question is, do you like, do you like interviews?
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I, I do in this setting, like I do now, especially when it feels like,
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um, whether it's like meaningful things.
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I mean, I think I like that in life in general, but something that's meaningful for sure.
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And you're my friend.
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And I feel like I love feeling really comfortable.
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Yes.
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And like safe.
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I think that's really important for me because there's been experiences in my life that don't feel very safe.
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So, or maybe I feel like I was naive or young or didn't have much of a say in certain things.
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So I, I like
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environments where I feel like like we just sat down
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and we started vibing I don't want to feel nervous and anxious
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and all those things like it's totally just too much it's
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it's nice to have it be a hang where you also know
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that you're in control of the way
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that things are presented to the outside world like it's not like you're going into talking to me
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and you're concerned that I'm gonna cut around some shit
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and make you look a certain way that's bad yeah
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which I think is something that
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when it comes to press is like it's out of our control there's
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so much lack of control of your own narrative and i think
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that it's exactly i'm a control freak by nature too
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and i think that you know you surrender to a lot being in like the industry
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that we're in you surrender to so much false false narrative
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or you know rumors or whatever false stories
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or anything you surrender to a lot and the things
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that people want to create for you
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so i think yeah it's it's special to be able to have i guess the privilege
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that we do which is being able to say like i'm i feel comfortable here
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and i'm okay to do this and whatever so i hope
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that answers your question no it completely does i'm so glad
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that you're here yeah i know um something interesting about you is
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that you are very public in a lot of ways
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and you've been very public since you were really young
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but i feel like a lot of people don't know like
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certain little things about you such as like what time you wake up in the morning
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and like what your favorite breakfast is i was thinking about this
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when i was driving here today i was like i actually don't know like what
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and even though i'm your friend like yeah yeah yeah i don't know these little innocent things about you
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and so i'm going to start out by asking you a few little things
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that i'm just genuinely curious about okay number one what time
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do you wake up in the morning for the most part for the most part i'm like Like, I mean, today I was up at like 730.
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I like early.
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And like that was a little more on the early side, but I was just on the East Coast.
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So I think that I'm a little bit jet lag, but I like getting up early.
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If I don't have to, if I don't have work, I don't want to force myself.
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But I also enjoy like getting a full day.
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I'm like, I'm the type of person, like, I don't know if I've only had like a couple all-nighters in my life.
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Wow.
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Like what they give me anxiety.
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Like, I like if the sun's coming up and I'm still awake, like I have full anxiety because I like I like to be productive during my day.
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I totally get it.
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Whatever.
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So I actually enjoy getting up quite early.
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I think on average, I'm getting up like 830.
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OK.
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And like, yeah, like around 830.
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And I like to get up and either go to the gym
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or go ride or something and like do something active when I get up.
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I always forget that you ride horses.
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Yeah.
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It's a therapeutic, you know, activity in general.
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But there's something so nostalgic.
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Like, I don't know.
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Like, did you have something like, did you have a sport or like a creative thing that you did when you were younger?
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Okay.
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Well, I don't know if you want to get back into cheer.
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No, but I think about it sometimes.
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I'm like, I would go to a gym and like tumble at a gym.
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And I would, I've actually done it a few times since I quit cheer and I, I fucking loved it.
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And I think that there's something special about
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that experience of like doing something when you were a kid that was so genuinely, Like there was no reason why you loved it so much or whatever.
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It was so genuine for me to ride and be around horses.
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And I stopped for a while and to come back to it.
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As an adult, there was just something like, there's something so like, I feel very grounded.
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I feel very like, I feel like a kid again, total inner child work.
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Like it's actually kind of amazing in that way.
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So I don't know.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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And then last but not least,
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if you were on, if you had to eat one meal for the rest of your life, what would it be?
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You can do multiple.
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Like a genre?
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Should I pick like a?
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It could be a genre.
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It could be like a random assortment of like four things, but a meal, like if you had to eat one meal for the rest of your life.
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Okay.
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See, you're putting a lot of pressure on me giving you like a wild answer, but I'm like, I.
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It could be something I honestly think like weirdly like a Kraft mac and cheese is like more interesting good
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So good Annie's is better, but there's things you think so I do Okay, whatever
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There's something about crap going back to nostalgia is like craft is just like there's something
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so special about it Like it is special.
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There's there's nothing and a leftover craft like the next day.
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It's like a block.
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Oh, yeah
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I would literally take it out of the fridge cold
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and just start like cutting chunks off like that's delicious I don't know.
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I'm I I always say like I feel like I've you
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know within friend groups just like you get asked this question or when you're drunk or something.
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I don't know but I feel like I love Italian.
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Like I there's not there's so many options within Italian food
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and I think that I could because I think
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if you like I was thinking about sushi for a second
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and I was like
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but I feel like it's although there are probably a lot
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more options than I've tried I feel like it's a little more limiting.
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Like I think Italian has like everything almost like there's
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so many options And I think
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that like I've been on trips to Italy where you just go eat pasta every day all day
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and I never get sick of it Yeah, I think it's that I mean something
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that I won't get sick of you can really there are
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so many different pasta shapes And despite what people think they all taste different
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So it's very all every penne is a different food than spaghetti There's different meaning.
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It's so like I just need to get that out of the way Before I now ask you really deep questions.
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Yeah, you're gonna get really weird.
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No, it's not gonna be weird It's gonna be so I make it weird.
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We might start crying I can't wait.
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So I constantly think about your childhood being your friend.
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You do?
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Which is like really worth.
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Oh, okay.
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I like, I don't know.
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I just, I got into the public eye at like 16 and not even nearly to the scale that you have experienced.
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And I had such a profound like level of challenge with it.
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Like it was so hard and I'm just now sort of figuring it out
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and getting to a place where like I'm able to manage the psychological impact.
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That's a blessing that you've gotten there as well.
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I don't even know and I still don't have it figured out.
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But like I think about if it would have happened to me younger and how that would have impacted me.
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And I'm like I can't tell like would you say that it's made you sort of immune in some ways?
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I know that the answer is no, but maybe in some ways, yes.
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Has it made you immune in some ways?
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Do you feel like you have a thicker skin because of it?
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Has it maybe had the opposite impact and made you more vulnerable in some ways?
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Like, what do you think that, how do you think that has impacted your mental state throughout the years?
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I think it's like a little bit of everything almost.
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Like it has made me tougher, but it also has made me a little bit more vulnerable or maybe a little sensitive to certain things.
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but I think also like there is, there is no comparison in like how it happened to you and how it happened to me.
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But I think that it was like different times also.
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Cause you think about like when our show started, um, there wasn't Instagram, there wasn't, there wasn't social media like it is today.
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So I think that it was just a little different.
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It almost felt like I thought about it before where like, it's a little Hannah Montana in the way of like, I didn't have a disguise or I didn't have like a physical shift.
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But I think that there was a sense and I say Kylie and I because she's not only my sister, but we're so close in age.
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And I very thankfully got to do it with like a partner.
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You know what I mean?
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And we went to school.
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Like we went to school as long as we could.
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I started homeschool 11 and 12.
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I did homeschool 11th and 12th grade.
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But up until then, I did, you know, regular school.
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So even though we had a TV show at home, we were going to regular school all day and had our friends that we had from before the show started.
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So I owe a lot of like, I think the ease to it, which it wasn't always easy,
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but it did feel kind of normal just because we were in school for so long and we were,
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we did have our group of friends and we lived as much of like a normal life as I think was possible.
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And I'm like, so grateful for that because I do feel like, although there were definitely struggles, especially when we got a little bit older
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and people started to like kind of care about me and Kylie's life more than when we were like, I was 10, I think when the show started.
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So it took a few years till people started to like invest maybe and like into our lives and whatever.
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And things started to shift.
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But I think another thing that we really had, that was really something I'm grateful for is it kind of grew as we got older.
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So it was a little bit, I want to say gradual.
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You know, I have friends who've had an overnight experience and
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And I don't know if you feel like maybe your experience was slightly overnight or fast.
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It was pretty fast.
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As an outsider, I would say your experience was kind of fast.
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Yeah.
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Like, I feel like you were, yeah, you like grew really quickly on YouTube and stuff, right?
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And I think there's a little bit of a difference maybe in impact
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but also with like the time of social media like yeah
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i grew with social media as well as growing with like the fame i guess but definitely
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so many challenges definitely i also think it it made me
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um grow up a little faster maybe there was like a level of maturity
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that i that i found i was always a relatively i think like mature kid
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but i think there was a level of maturity that, that also had to grow really quickly.
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Like I was working at a really young age.
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I was traveling alone at a pretty young age, traveling the world, not alone, alone.
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I was with, you know, obviously my, my agent, who's also my really good friend, but you know, without my parents, without my family, like, and all those things.
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So a little bit of early growth as well.
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And I don't know, I'm grateful for my experience.
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I have to say, cause I also know that there are people that might have it, that it might be, you know, really tough for them.
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And, um, especially like in the mental health space of it all, I think that I've obviously had my, my moments even as a kid.
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And I think Kylie and I had to go through like very like adult things at a really young age.
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And I don't know, like a lot of internet hate at a really young age, which I feel like a lot of us have experienced and even just like,
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yeah, just, just weird stuff like that.
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But overall, I am really grateful because I think it could have been a lot worse.
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And I think that Kylie and I, the one thing that we really had was a lot of stability, a lot of love and like really great support system and really great friends.
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So it felt like we could remove ourselves a lot of the time and feel really like normal.
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Well, also too, I think having your family may be all kind of I never really thought about this until now
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which is bizarre because it's so obvious
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but it's like it's all kind of scaling at the same time
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so it's like you know you
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and Kylie are going through it at the same time
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but also you know your other sisters
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and then also even you know your parents
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and it's like it's all happening to everyone at once yeah
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so it's like you can go anyone um you know of your closest loved ones
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and you can have these conversations with anyone it's like
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which i think is probably really helpful
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and it's probably also interesting to watch how you know your different family members have responded to these things
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and you know their different perspectives
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and their different responses to it well they're also older
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so we got to see them make mistakes as well we learn from them in positive ways too um
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but i think that that's where kylie and I also get kind of the privacy aspect of like our personal lives, which our sisters were always really open with,
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especially on like the earlier days of our show and, and all of that.
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But it's just kind of been something that I think we learned from not in a negative way at all, but just kind of like took it and said,
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this is how I would personally deal with like my journey
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and no shame or blame to how anyone else would deal with theirs.
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But, um, I think that was just, those are just things you pick up on.
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So I think there's also an aspect of us being really grateful
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that we had older siblings that we got to see do things before us or like, yeah, like lead us in a way.
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I feel like one of the biggest challenges that comes with being in the public eye,
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especially at your scale, is sort of being a societal punching bag.
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I, again, think about this all the time
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because you reach a certain level of of fame of notoriety
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and it is inevitable it's just inevitable
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and it's gonna happen you can't do anything
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but like it's just it's just what happens how do you deal with
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that um i do and i don't i'd say i think
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that um it's part of the long journey
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that i've had of like i guess that's where like the tough skin aspect comes in
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but i'd be lying to if I said I haven't fallen victim to like, of course, oh my God,
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like that sucks that that's like a narrative or like that's just so not true or that's not who I am.
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Like there's definitely a frustration and me again, being a control freak or being someone who like,
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everybody wants to be understood and to feel like I want to live a private life.
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But then that also kind of means sometimes not having control over a narrative
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or maybe giving space for someone else to create the narrative, that can get kind of frustrating to feel like,
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oh, that's a misunderstanding or like you've completely misunderstood me.
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And, you know, you want to like be you want to like almost respond to everything
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or like try and prove people wrong.
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But I've learned my lesson.
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And especially as I get older with stuff like
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that is like staying like level and being authentic to like exactly who you are
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and knowing your worth and knowing who you are
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and then being able to sit back and like take the high road in a way and be like, you know what, what's the point in addressing something that's one, not, not even true.
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And then two, like not going to change anything.
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Even if I do, I think
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that that's almost been my power is like being able to sit back
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and be comfortable with it at this point and be like, anybody who needs to know who I am will know who I am.
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And anybody who really matters to me or who comes close to me, like they'll see.
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And I almost kind love the like proving people wrong
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or like people might walk into it being like i have an idea of this
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because of what i've seen on the internet
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and then being pleasantly surprised is like i'm cool with
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that like i'm i'm happy to be i'm also like such
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a scorpio i'm like i don't want to give everybody everything you know what i mean
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so when someone means when someone means something to me
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and something feels really special or sacred to me like i'm really happy
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that they get to experience that version of me totally and it feels almost special to that person as well
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so i can't give you like a straight up answer of like what has helped me
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or what has changed things or what has fixed i don't know whatever
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but i think
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that it's a long process it's a long it is years i am 28 this journey started
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when i was 10 and like i think
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that it's been a really long time for me to get to where i am now
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and it's never gonna be there's never like an end to the like process of healing
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or the process of like figuring out your way like it's always i don't know changing
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and evolving and absolutely whatever yeah
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so let's get into modeling a bit okay i think a lot of people romanticize it
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and are like this is the dream like this is the dream job like just being beautiful
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and and you know getting to wear these beautiful clothes and
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and doing all these things
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but as with all things there's incredible elements such as you know why people romanticize the the the line of work,
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but then there's also, you know, challenges with it that I think are, are less considered.
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And I'm curious to hear what have been sort of the parts of modeling
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that are maybe the most romanticized that don't maybe match that in reality in the sense,
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like, you know, not to shit on modeling at all as a, in any way, or to shit on the experience or to like,
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take away from the magic that I can imagine that that career path can bring, but more to
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sort of just shed light on the reality of it for the sake of proving to people
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that the grass is always greener.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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I think it definitely goes without saying that like there is hair and makeup and lighting on like, you know what I mean?
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Like the physical of it is not always that way.
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Right.
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Like I think that's with anybody, anything.
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And I think that you're, you're in, you're in the best hands most of the time.
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And you're in like, um, you know, the best setting for your like physical and all the things.
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And so I think that when it comes to like, you know, someone on a cover of a magazine or like in an editorial, they're going to like, probably,
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you know, it's not always that perfect and that shiny.
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Um, so there's that, but I think that kind of goes without saying.
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And I think that as for romanticizing it, look, I'm not going to sit here and say that I've had like a, you know, a really like I've had the toughest journey and, you know, all those things.
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I think I've been extremely fortunate, but I also have had, you know, my own set of challenges and whether that be,
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you know, whether it's overworked or whether it's not getting a job that I would have really loved to get.
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I think that something that is to be said about anyone who would want to get into it or, um, or that has any idea of it is,
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it is a lot of like self love, like a big self love.
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Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask about.
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Yeah, it's like, it's very, you have to have such a strong relationship with yourself to be able to go into it because it can be cutthroat.
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And it can be like, you are sometimes like, oh my god, why didn't I am I not, you know, enough for this job or whatever.
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So there are those moments or, you know, people also in the industry can be really like tough or blunt or brutal.
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And so So I think there's those types of things for sure.
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But again, I, I've, I'm so grateful.
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I've had like a really, um, beautiful experience and again, come came with some of, some of its challenges as well.
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I think a lot of people, myself included would have assumed like, Oh, this is probably the confidence boost of a lifetime.
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Like, you know, this being your career path or whatever, being able to do that.
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But then I think the truth of the matter is it's like, you're in this sort of business of just looking a certain way in a way
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and it's like in a lot of ways I think you
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know you do have to figure out how to put your worth elsewhere
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and I don't know how in the world a young woman could possibly manage
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that yeah I think that it it also is a lot of like um I think
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that it's a lot of having like great people around you a great support system and great family, great friends.
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And again, for anyone who would ever want to do it, I think is literally having a great relationship with yourself enough
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to be able to go home at the end of the night
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and still like look yourself in the mirror and be happy and love yourself.
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I think that that's the biggest thing.
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And I, yeah.
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It's also lonely.
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I've, I've heard about, you know, like you're, you're very young.
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A lot of the times, like, you know, 16, 17, 18, 19, and you're,
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you're traveling around alone yeah for the most part yeah i was um it is very lonely like i've had
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really you know dark nights where i've been in you know kind of random cities
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and just hysterically crying myself to sleep
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because i haven't been home in three months
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and i've been pretty much alone the entire time
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or i'm on a job and something really you know crazy happens at home
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that i would love to be there for
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and i'm being told i can't be and like just there's there's been been a lot of definite moments where I'm like, what is going on?
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Is this all worth it?
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And then, you know, when I look back on the time that I've had with it so far, it is a really beautiful thing to be able to travel the world the way I have.
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I probably would have never traveled the way I have
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or the amount that I have had I not had that job, this job.
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I've met really amazing people.
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A lot of my friends are because of this job.
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A lot of cool, creative people.
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A lot of like inspiration in my life is like all because of my job.
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So I feel very grateful for it.
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I feel very grateful for my experience and for having a relatively really good experience.
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I feel really grateful because I have heard, um, a lot of stories from friends of mine and people that I know and peers and stuff that haven't.
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What's like your grounding routine when you're traveling a lot,
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like, especially, you know, maybe during like peak travel times with modeling, like what was your, your sort of grounding routine?
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I don't think I had the tools I have now.
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I think a lot of it was obviously friends.
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And then also I had friends in the industry, like really good friends who I knew before as well.
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So I think that was really helpful was my friends being around.
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Totally.
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Because it didn't feel so lonely.
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But I think that now when feeling overwhelmed or feeling like I need that kind of grounding experience, like if I'm away, I'm a water sign.
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So and water naturally is a cleanser.
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So like I believe in like cleansing my body any way I can.
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So if I'm like overwhelmed or I'm out, like I want to go stand in a shower.
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If that's the my closest form to water, I want to go like cleanse my body, cleanse my soul.
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Like even in a bathtub, like a bath is really good.
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Put my heart under water and like, just like chill.
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Those are like really good tactics for me to like soften myself and like release.
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But like, if I'm away for a few weeks and I'm like doing the shower thing, but then like eventually I'm, you know, I'm, I'm able to have some free time.
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Like I want to run to a beach.
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I want to run to a lake.
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Like I want to just like submerge myself in water.
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So that's been like a, a cleansing journey that I've been on.
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But I mean, I have so many things.
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I think that also like turning off my mind as best as I can
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so like putting my phone down is like a big thing
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or going for a walk
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or how do you not obsess over the phone like do
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you have I don't know man like I'm not perfect
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and I fall victim to it all the time well I just had to take like an extreme measure
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which I'll even tell you more about I have to like it's like a full like experience
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but I just got a second phone.
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Okay.
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So I have one phone that has like all social media on it.
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Yeah.
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And also just like any app I don't want on my phone.
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Like it has Postmates on it.
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It has DoorDash.
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It has every social media app.
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It has YouTube.
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It has all the sort of entertainment.
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It has like, you know, the Netflix, the Hulu, the Max.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It has all, it's basically, I've named it because you can name each phone.
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Oh, yeah.
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Each device, the bad phone.
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Okay.
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And then I have the good phone, which I bring around with me
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every day
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and it has like you know all the stuff i need
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for work on it wait did you come up with this
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or did someone like give you this advice this totally exists
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somewhere however i i did ultimately come up with it i
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was like this idea it's completely excessive in the sense
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that now i have two phones which is wild
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but a little annoying it's totally annoying but but i like this
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but i love it yeah literally i've not been on instagram like doom scrolling in
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well it becomes over a week it becomes an addiction now
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like all right i'm full i was fully addicted that's why i did this that's something
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that i practice a lot is like
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when i feel myself like i go to grab my phone
420
and i'm like i don't need to do this i'm like i'm with my friends
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or i'm like watching this game or like why am i craving this right now
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so then i just put it back down i was
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so bad about it
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that like to me also too i i almost had this
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like anxious like obsessive sort of trait about it where i'd
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be like i need to check to make sure everything's okay yeah this is my job i have to check
427
and it's like if something's going wrong you're gonna find out i'm gonna find out
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so i need to let this control go
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and it's been that's been the hardest thing about it like
430
obviously you know i like to see what people are up to
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and i get like super you know everybody has their own
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like stalking journey like whatever it's it's like you like you
433
start on the explore page the next thing you know you're on like your middle school best friends page
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and I know someone who is pretty well known and doesn't have social media at all.
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And I asked her, I was like, or someone else asked her, I was in the room.
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They were like, wait, what?
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You don't have social media?
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Like, how do you know, like the news?
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Like, how do you know what's going on?
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And she's like, if it's big enough, I'll hear about it.
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Like, I don't need social media to know what's going on.
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So I do kind of agree that it's kind of a silly excuse to be like, I need to know what's going on.
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Like you don't need to know, because you will find out.
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You will find out.
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But I also, um, I think I sometimes almost it's, it's my messages that overwhelm me more than social media.
446
Sometimes I am on social media, but I wouldn't say I'm that crazy on it.
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Like I'm not on it all the time.
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It's more like messages for me.
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Like I think I have a lot of work stuff, but I'm also like, you know, my friends chatting and group chats and the whole thing.
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And so I'm silencing everything.
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I need to start doing do not disturb.
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I haven't gotten there yet.
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Whoa.
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I've been on do not disturb for four years.
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No, I know.
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I haven't done that yet.
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And I need get into it i think it would be good for me
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because i feel like i like having zero messages oh same are you
459
that girl yes i like having zero messages
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so i feel like i need to answer everybody yeah but
461
but why do we feel obligated that's not normal to have
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act for someone to have access to you 24 7 is
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not normal it's not how like human like that's not another
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thing i did with the second phone yeah two numbers
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so one number that is like the one on my phone constantly that's just
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you know this is all still a work in progress
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but it's like right now it's literally just my parents
468
and like yeah you know like the closest like four people to me who like need my contact
469
and then work people yeah
470
and then the other phone is like you know it's everyone else
471
because i i also feel this sort of pressure at times
472
where you know maybe you'll have like four people who are like hey let's hang out
473
and it's like that can cause a lot of anxiety
474
when you're not in the headspace to be handling it and
475
when you're like already overwhelmed with your life maybe through work
476
or whatever or from work or whatever
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and then now all of a sudden you know you just
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can't always manage very easily overwhelmed me as well very easily
479
and it's not even anything personal to no anyone the fact
480
that i'm like okay i need these two numbers because i need to be able to
481
have these other conversations at a time
482
when i can actually give my full self to it totally and and
483
that has been really interesting like you know i always have zero notifications on my on my main phone
484
and you know
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and those are really the things i need to know immediately
486
everything else can wait eight hours 24 hours even 48
487
and it's just not that big of a deal yeah
488
so i don't know maybe you tried the two phones no i might i actually really like this idea um
489
but yeah definitely the the thing of like reassuring yourself like
490
oh this doesn't need to be answered right away like i
491
think people people also expect you i expect my friends i'm like hey
492
when i hit you like i expect my friends to reply
493
so you know i don't like that expectation on me
494
so i don't want to expect that from anyone else either i think
495
that we need to be able to like loosen up a little bit yeah for me it's
496
so for me it's messages
497
that overwhelm me a little bit more um speaking of like
498
phone anxiety we're both anxious we both talked about it a lot in fact like you've really
499
spoken about it throughout the years so much which i think is
500
so important and special not only for yourself yeah to help people understand you better as a public figure
501
because anxiety can present itself in yeah a number of ways for sure
502
but also you know just it is important it like as
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an anxious person myself anytime somebody else is like i'm
504
so anxious i'm like thank god yeah it's like you know
505
because i think with anxiety too you can convince yourself
506
that you have your own weird version of it
507
that no one else has yeah yeah yeah and like
508
which it is like it's not one size fits all yours
509
and like whatever it is kind of a thing of like
510
you know figuring out your way with it absolutely
511
but it's still nice to know everybody has their own weird
512
version of it totally you're like not alone in it whatsoever like what is your
513
day-to-day routine look like to sort of like keep the anxiety low like you know
514
when from morning to night what are the different things
515
that you integrate you already mentioned sort of like the water tactic of like getting in water um
516
but you know do you do you read books a lot like do you have like you know a meditation
517
that you do like what does your day look like for anxiety prevention if you will.
518
For a long time, I thought it was do the meditation, which I believe in meditation.
519
And I believe that it is very helpful.
520
Do the meditation, do the, you know, all the like actual, like real things.
521
I think sometimes it's as simple as, and it's kind of what we were just talking about is like managing what can cause,
522
like knowing what can cause it and trying to find your boundaries with it, manage it, not do it at all.
523
Like things like we're talking about the phone, things like me getting like overwhelmed with messages.
524
Okay.
525
If I'm feeling overwhelmed with messages that aren't necessary to respond to right now, maybe it is about putting my phone away for a second
526
and literally going for a 15 minute walk or literally making cookies
527
or like actually watching maybe like a cartoon for a second to just like calm my nervous system.
528
I don't know, whatever it looks like for you.
529
I think it's like I said, not a one size fits all journey.
530
And I think it's so much about finding what calms your nervous system and recognizing it, putting it in like a notepad somewhere and being like, okay, these are things that calm me.
531
These are things that make me worse or give me anxiety or make me feel overwhelmed and trying to then navigate like,
532
okay, how can I kind of avoid these things or find boundaries with these things?
533
And how can I gravitate more towards the things that make me feel good?
534
So it's more intuitive, I think than like a structural.
535
I've noticed that too.
536
Like I almost have to handle my anxiety on a case by case basis.
537
Totally.
538
It's like, okay.
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Cause I've tried to do things like, I mean, there are certain like,
540
you know, fundamental sort of parts of my day-to-day life that I know make me more anxious or are helpful.
541
Totally.
542
So for example, like I think waking up in the morning and I am not perfect with this.
543
I can't say that every morning I do this, but waking up in the morning and not immediately looking at my phone and changes the game.
544
A lot of what it is is so much overstimulation.
545
So it's like a lot of too much information for our brain to even process.
546
Yeah.
547
And especially scrolling like TikTok, like we're not meant to see that much information that quickly.
548
We're going, I'm going from crying because something was so cute and sad to like hysterically crying, laughing, but something was so funny.
549
Like, I don't know if we're supposed to feel those two things within a span of 30 seconds.
550
Yeah.
551
Or we're not used to it, at least.
552
I don't know.
553
I'm curious about sort of, you know, the process of building friendship.
554
I know I've had interesting friendship building experiences just because naturally it's like, I don't know, like it's,
555
it's challenging in an environment where people potentially can, can gain from you in a lot of different ways, whether it's, you know, uh,
556
career wise, or even just like, you know, going to dinner and like oh well maybe maybe she will pay
557
or whatever like whatever it may be like there's it's very uncomfortable sort of trying to navigate building friendships
558
that are genuine and positive and where you can truly trust you know the people
559
that you're around and i mean no friend is perfect either right
560
so it's like also balancing this sort of complex situation where it's like not every friend is perfect
561
but also i need to have maybe stricter boundaries in some ways
562
because there's a a lot of people
563
that might be trying to to potentially take advantage of me what has been your sort of friendship strategy because it's
564
so important well i think yeah i think i think also
565
like i don't know maybe this is just a me thing
566
but i feel like i hear this from other um women as well as like i think when you're um older
567
as a woman, like sometimes it's a little bit more like you don't, you kind of have your friends, right?
568
You kind of already have your like your crew and your vibe.
569
And it's, it's a little bit more on the rare side to like make new friends.
570
Totally.
571
As you get older.
572
I don't know.
573
Yeah.
574
Maybe that's, maybe I've just experienced that.
575
I've heard that too.
576
Not because, not because you're not a friendly person or you can't meet other friendly people.
577
It's just kind of like a little more rare, I guess.
578
Like when you're a kid, everybody's your friend and you're always making friends and whatever.
579
And I think that I have really good judgment.
580
I also feel like I have really good, like I can really read people really well and get a really good vibe most of the time.
581
So I think I've gotten really lucky with that.
582
Yeah.
583
And I feel like I trust my body and I trust those energy feelers.
584
Totally.
585
And if I don't feel good around someone, I know that there's probably a reason.
586
So I just don't waste my time going there.
587
And I'm really tough.
588
Like I'm like, I have a friend who is so open to other people and it's so like whatever.
589
And she can get kicked in the ass sometimes because of it.
590
And I just am so not that person.
591
I don't really let a lot of people in, especially now, but I never really have, even since I was young, it's kind of always been part of my nature.
592
But again, for me, it's an energy thing.
593
Like if I feel like really good around someone like you and I, I like, I knew I liked you before I met you, which is an interesting scenario.
594
So I was like excited to get to know you and you didn't disappoint.
595
And you're like amazing.
596
And you're great.
597
Thank you. And ditto.
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And thank you.
599
And so much of it is vibe and energy for me.
600
I completely agree.
601
Like I, and I don't just trust right away.
602
Like I, I definitely like, I like slow pedal.
603
And then I'm, And then one day I'm like, you're an open.
604
Yeah.
605
I can feel that like, this is a good vibe and like, we're, we're good.
606
You can't, like, I still am sort of, I bet you learn that throughout your life.
607
Like, I feel like that was something that probably happened like without you even realizing it.
608
Maybe it's just your nature though too.
609
It could be one or the other or a mixture, but it's like, that is so important because I'm somebody that's, I'm just kind of like a free bird.
610
Like I'm just like telling everyone everything about me and it's like and it's something i'm really working on because
611
it's it's kind of spooky out here sometimes like you got you can't like spooky you can't do
612
that and i i do that you know what i mean
613
and like i think there's something like free about it for sure to be like ah everything's gonna be okay
614
and like everyone's amazing and whatever
615
but there's also something like just i think we have to
616
sometimes remind ourselves like of the world we live in now
617
and like the way that i don't everybody wants to talk
618
and it's horrible i don't want to be a part of it
619
and i don't i don't know so i just i keep to myself
620
and my crew as much as i can
621
but at the same time i love i love being in like the rooms
622
that we're in or like being at a fun event
623
and you know seeing someone who i'm like a fan of
624
or that i love and i think is really cool
625
and like being able to chop it up and like all of
626
that is great i love all of that
627
and i love i love experiencing new people um
628
and you just know your boundaries yeah so that i think that's important
629
and everything is boundaries yes i think that in any relationship
630
and whatever and i mean
631
that to say like protecting your energy totally like i think
632
that's the most important part of it i also think we
633
live in a world like you know i i think evil eye is a real thing
634
so we live in a world where like you expose yourself to
635
so much evil eye and that can become really heavy yeah And people, aka the world, or even people closer than you think might be wishing poorly on you.
636
And without themselves even knowing it, I think like even subconsciously people can wish poorly on you.
637
Yeah.
638
Energetically people can wish poorly on you.
639
So anything that's important to you, I believe in like keeping to yourself and like, I agree a job that you might want.
640
You don't need to tell everybody that you're going for this job because there might be people closer than you think, like trying to put it down or like put bad vibes into it.
641
Again, they could be doing it subconsciously.
642
So I think that's a big thing for me is like protecting my energy, protecting my surroundings, protecting information, protecting my life.
643
Like keeping it, keeping it sacred.
644
Totally.
645
What is something that you've worked on with yourself over the last few years that has like paid dividends?
646
Like, like what's like work on yourself that's been the most impactful, like a challenge that you've overcome that's been like holy shit
647
that changed the game for me i think
648
so much of it is like life experience like like learning
649
lessons right like just learning experiences going through shit coming out
650
the other side knowing what worked for you knowing what didn't
651
but i think that the biggest thing for me i'm i'm relatively new to like the therapy experience
652
but i maybe i started like two years ago
653
and i think my therapy journey has been really nice for
654
me i consider myself a really self-aware person i think it's only made me more self-aware
655
to be able to talk through problems with someone else
656
and be able to like um maybe see them at face value
657
or like uh digest why i might do something a certain way
658
or why i might handle a situation a certain way it's only made me more self-aware
659
so i'd say like probably my therapy journey is like the
660
most that's a great transformative thing in the last two years I've never found a good therapist, but I'll find one.
661
But it's so much of that.
662
You will, by the way, if you continue to look, you will.
663
Mine, I went through a few and then I kind of gave up.
664
And then one day she like came to me through someone.
665
Like someone was like, oh my God, I just found this amazing person.
666
Yep.
667
You should try them.
668
And I did.
669
And I was like, wait, I'm really into this vibe.
670
So I do believe it comes to you when it's meant to in a way.
671
I think that something like advice I would give is like something that's really been interesting for me is like consistency.
672
So like there'll be days.
673
Yeah, that's probably what I'm doing.
674
No, no, no. But you should find someone who makes you feel like you want to be consistent.
675
Yes, absolutely.
676
I believe that as well.
677
But I think that consistency is important only because like there are days where I go into it where I'm like, my life feels great right now.
678
Like I don't need to do this today.
679
Like I think I'm going to cancel.
680
And then I don't cancel and I do it and something always comes up.
681
Doesn't mean it's negative.
682
Interesting.
683
But something always comes to fruition in these sessions.
684
And I think that that's what's really important about a consistent journey.
685
Yes is like, I believe that
686
if you want to do it for a few years and then maybe take like six months off or a year off, whatever, that's fair.
687
You can do whatever you want to do, especially in that type of environment.
688
But for me, that's something I've noticed is like sticking to it, even on the good days is like really important.
689
That's amazing.
690
And you're inspiring me to try again for the bazillionth time.
691
What do you think is the most simplified recipe for you for a fulfilled life not necessarily a happy life
692
because that's a little bit too much to ask because
693
that doesn't exist but like a fulfilled life in the sense
694
that you feel sort of full in your heart you know there's always going to be some sadness
695
and there are some challenges well that's what makes the happiness all the better exactly
696
so what do you think is your recipe for a fulfilled
697
life like it could be anything it could even be like little things
698
that you do on a day-to-day it could be anything well
699
i i crave a simple life that's for sure like i think that when i see myself
700
um older and hopefully with a really amazing um beautiful family of my own
701
and all those things like I think
702
that that's a part of the recipe right yes
703
but I also think something that would be meaningful to me is like something
704
that is meaningful to me and
705
that would continue to be meaningful to me is like relationships
706
with like important people in my life friends really beautiful times really beautiful memories like those are really like just
707
so important they're the only things we can bring with us when we leave this place.
708
And I think that that's really important to me is creating that space and that time for those things.
709
And I think leaving an impact on those people is really important to me.
710
So as long as like I bring only great vibes to the people that I, that bring great vibes to me, then I would feel like I would be really fulfilled,
711
um, in life and, you know, my future relationships.
712
But yeah, I definitely crave like a simple, a simple life like I want to I want to be
713
out of here one day yeah I I get it go be on a farm
714
and I so get it yeah and I also
715
but it is interesting we're very aligned there where it's like it comes down to people
716
and community it's like really a lot of this I mean we are on our own individual journeys
717
but people are so important
718
so important we're not we're not designed to be we need each other like we do need each other absolutely
719
and I think that you know having a room full of people
720
that you love and that love you back is super important.
721
And, um, I don't know, it definitely makes for a fulfilled life.
722
But right now, like I say, I want to, I say, I want to move to a farm, which I definitely do.
723
And I crave that pretty much every day.
724
But at the same time, like, I think I have this, like, not fear of, I have this fear of getting older, but not for the physical reasons.
725
Like I have a fear of getting older because everyone who's older, like always is like, it goes by so fast.
726
And like, I get chills right now, even saying that, like, cause I'm only 28.
727
Of course, I'm still young.
728
But like, even those 28 years went by so fast.
729
So I'm like, oh my gosh, it only feels like it gets faster.
730
Yeah.
731
And I think that I have this fear of like, not enjoying myself, especially while I'm like young and able and healthy.
732
And like, totally, I understand that to serve me.
733
And I think that I want to enjoy that too.
734
So I feel really like I want to be where my feet are, right.
735
And I want to like, experience everything the way I should.
736
And I want to like, live my life.
737
You know what, your podcast, I don't know if it was your podcast or your YouTube channel.
738
But I remember you said something one time because you have really good one liners, but like, I mean, you're really good at it.
739
But like you said something one time where you were like, you know, sometimes I have like a week where I'm really bored or like sometimes I'm having a really boring day.
740
And like, I've realized that that's actually more normal than like you think.
741
And I just like beat myself up about like being like
742
not doing anything today or like whatever
743
and kind of just having a mundane day
744
and like it actually is really normal yes
745
and i think especially right now in like social media we think
746
that everything should be glitzy and glammy and shiny and like perfect
747
and always traveling and always doing these things
748
and always with fun people like that's not the reality of
749
everyone's life in fact it's not good for you either no you need the boring day yeah of course in
750
so many different ways of course and i think that like you and i def you're a homebody
751
I'm so a homebody
752
and I enjoy being home I am not the girl who's gonna go out
753
and rage yeah all the time I love a good occasional
754
like fun night dance we need a phase every once in a
755
while but that's
756
but we're not like a consistent I always say to my
757
friends who are like oh my god come out live your life I'm like
758
but what if I'm really happy in my bed early yes like what if
759
that makes me really I'm in a board game phase it's
760
no it's no I I can't believe I'm saying it but like I this last weekend was like, I can't go out because I really want to play this board game again.
761
Like I've been playing it for like the entire week.
762
But that's okay.
763
It makes you happy.
764
It made me so much happier.
765
And I went to bed at a reasonable time and it was beautiful.
766
And like, but that's totally, I know exactly what you mean.
767
Totally.
768
Okay.
769
But at the same time, while I, you know, I say that, and that is who I am.
770
That is what I love is like being at home, being the home body, all those things i also think um having those special memories
771
and those big nights
772
and those fun nights like that's also important to me i'm
773
in a phase in life right now where i'm like maybe i will just go
774
and see what happens i want to like live a little right now
775
and be where my feet are and experience as much as i can
776
and just like move go with the flow yes that's totally
777
my vibe right now me too we're aligned sister i love
778
it okay my last question though is yes this is completely off off topic is
779
if you had to make me a cocktail right now obviously with tequila okay I mean duh but also
780
because that's my liquor of choice anyways um what would you
781
make me tell me the exact recipe like I'm saying like
782
but no no but you're making you're you're like this is too easy
783
I know well I guess okay
784
but it can't be an espresso martini okay that's what I
785
was gonna say no it can't be an espresso martini it has to be something
786
that one something else it has to be
787
like something brand new well
788
if it wasn't an espresso martini with the chamberlain coffee in
789
it it would be an 818 tequila of course oh my god i don't know i'm
790
so like i enjoy because i love to appreciate the tequila
791
so it would be with tequila do you just drink it
792
on the rocks for the most part most part yeah our reserve i drink on the rocks
793
so i like yes simple drinks like i like our reserve
794
on the rocks with a with squeezed in like orange
795
and just like leaving the orange on the rim like that's my favorite
796
but if i had to make you something i don't know i think
797
that like i've made really yummy drinks in my life like
798
i randomly love to like i like to do this thing where i take like drinks
799
that are traditionally made with like other alcohol yes
800
and like make it with tequila like a macaroni i know
801
that might be a little bit intense but like love love or
802
like i don't know an old-fashioned or something yum
803
but those are like very mature
804
but you need to make those for me okay i won't
805
i don't think i've had well i still haven't been to your house
806
so yeah okay well i'll come over we're planning cocktails we're
807
gonna have the most fun time we're gonna play a board game i'm
808
so down i swear i'm your gal like it's
809
so kendall this one game
810
that i'm like it's called you know ticket to ride oh no idea what
811
that is no it's
812
so there is something like kind of like i like i've been playing it since i was little but now
813
that i'm an adult it's the most strategic challenging game like
814
i feel my brain cells like rebuilt like rebuilding like i'm getting smarter from this game i see i like
815
because it's so hard i like games like
816
that like i used to be um i used to like to play like video games
817
and stuff a lot when i was younger yeah and then
818
when i got older i was like i want to dive back into this
819
and see what's like out in the world yeah anytime i found like puzzle like games
820
that like challenge your brain like even on like xbox
821
or whatever yeah playstation like i love those types of games
822
well you're coming over we're gonna play perfect challenge me okay
823
i can't wait make my brain stronger okay good i'll see you then perfect okay bye
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この動画で身につける英語スピーキングのスキル
このKendall Jennerとの会話動画は、英語シャドーイングに最適な教材です。まず、自然な会話の流れをつかむ能力が養えます。友達同士のくつろいだトークなので、「I do in this setting」のように、状況に合わせた柔軟な表現が学べます。次に、質問に対するリアルタイムの応答力が向上します。話し手が「Do you like interviews?」と聞いたら、Kendallが「I do in this setting...」と答える流れを追うことで、日常会話のペースに慣れます。さらに、感情を込めた発音も学べます。「I feel like I was naive」のように、弱い感情を表すときのトーンの使い方がわかります。これらはIELTSスピーキング対策にも役立つ実践的なスキルです。
聞き取りに注意すべき発音のポイント
動画の会話では、連結発音（リンキング）がたくさん使われています。例えば、「it is always」は「it's always」となり、「t」の音が弱まります。「I don't want to feel」は「I don't wanna feel」となり、「want to」が「wanna」に短縮されています。また、「a slew of challenges」では「a」が「ə」と弱く発音され、「slew of」が一つの単語のように聞こえます。これらのリダクションを聞き取ることで、ネイティブの話し方に慣れ、シャドーイングがしやすくなります。
ネイティブのように話すコツ
ネイティブのようなリズムとアクセントを身につけるには、シャドーイング（shadowspeaks/shadowspeak）を繰り返し練習することが大切です。動画を少しずつ止めながら、話し手の発音、トーン、ペースを真似てみてください。例えば、「I'm so delighted to be bringing a friend on today」では、「delighted」と「bringing」にアクセントが置かれ、「to be」は弱く発音されます。「She's a delightful person, a very sweet person」では、「delightful」「sweet」に力を入れ、「a very」は軽く流します。このように、重要な単語にアクセントを置き、その他の単語を自然に繋げることで、自然な会話のリズムが身につきます。動画で英語学習を続けることで、スピーキングの自信がつき、IELTSスピーキング対策も万全になりますよ。
この動画の文法
話し手がよく使っている文型を、動画の実際の表現とともに紹介します。
| 文型 | 動画での表現 |
|---|---|
| 現在完了進行形 have/has been + -ing — 以前に始まり今も続いている動作 | I've been playing |
| 条件文 if + 節, will/would + 動詞 — 条件とその結果 | if it's big enough, I'll hear · if you continue to look, you will |
| 「used to」 used to + 動詞 — 今はもう違う過去の習慣や状態 | used to it · used to be |
| 現在完了形 have/has + 過去分詞 — 過去の出来事が今も関係している | I've enjoyed · has collaborated · has already won |
シャドーイングとは？英語上達に効果的な理由
シャドーイング（Shadowing）は、もともとプロの通訳者養成プログラムで開発された言語学習法で、多言語習得者として知られるDr. Alexander Arguelles によって広く普及されました。方法はシンプルですが非常に効果的：ネイティブスピーカーの英語を聞きながら、1〜2秒の遅延で声に出してすぐに繰り返す——まるで「影（shadow）」のように話者を追いかけます。文法ドリルや受動的なリスニングと異なり、シャドーイングは脳と口の筋肉が同時にリアルタイムで英語を処理・再現することを強制します。研究により、発音精度、抑揚、リズム、連音、リスニング力、そして会話の流暢さが大幅に向上することが確認されています。IELTSスピーキング対策や自然な英語コミュニケーションを目指す方に特におすすめです。