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I was really down and depressed because the reality of the industry.
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I was really down and depressed because the reality of the industry.
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Whether it's a hit or not, I don't really care.
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I cannot get unemployed.
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I don't want to hide who I am.
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You want to do anything specific with the fans?
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I want to throw a party.
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For them.
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Those actually exist?
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I have a question.
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You do?
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When will I go to Bali with Narasi?
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Hi, this is Jackson Wang from Nata C.
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And this is Joe from Team Wang.
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Oh!
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So you've been here, or you're gonna be here for the next...
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Three days.
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Three days, but you've been here for like two weeks, I think.
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No, I think I...
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Oh, I've been here for a week now.
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For a week?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So you're here for like 10 days?
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Yeah, 10, 11 days, yeah.
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That's a long time to be here.
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Yeah, I like it.
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I like it.
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That's a long time to be here.
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I can't control myself.
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So only Jakarta or are you going to any other cities?
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I've never been to Bali in my life.
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Now I say, please bring me to Bali.
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Let's do that.
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Let's start this budget, right?
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This Bali trip with Jackson Wang.
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I love it.
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People have asked you so many questions about Indonesia.
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They ask you to try this type of food and like you like all of them except the spicy ones, right?
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I can't do spicy.
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I'm allergic to chili.
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But I also tried Chinese food here.
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Oh.
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It's actually very good.
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Like what?
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What did you try?
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The wonton.
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Oh.
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But then they packed all the dim sum in bags.
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Like in what do you call it?
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Like a plastic bag.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I'll try that.
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Maybe, yeah.
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I want to know that place.
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Yeah, where did you order?
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Place.
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Grab.
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Oh, no. Grab plug.
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This is a grab plug, yo.
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Grab.
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Grab.
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Order from Grab.
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Maybe you have a question about Indonesia.
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What are you most curious about Indonesia?
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Maybe the Narasi team can answer for you.
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Narasi team?
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Yeah.
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I have a question.
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You do?
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When will I go to Bali with Narasi?
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What?
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This is one and second.
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I know Indonesia is actually,
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even across the ocean, like Indonesia obviously here,
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but then across the ocean,
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the also land over there
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that is also indonesia yeah the eastern part of indonesia yeah
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yeah yeah i've never been is bali there bali is like kind of central
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but i'm gonna do a plug for my province oh yeah
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so my province is on like the eastern side of indonesia right
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and it has a place called labuan baju what's the vibe
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like it's chill it's chill it's it's all beach it's where
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the komodo dragons are um have you heard of the komodo dragons no you haven't like those giant reptiles
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But like lizards yeah, like the huge lizards Iguana like bigger ones.
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Oh big.
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Oh really someone should show a picture of a Komodo like right now.
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It's Pretty insane like in the in the jungle Like they're on an island.
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So you gotta go to that separate island see them to see them.
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Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah those ones those actually exist.
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Yes.
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I'll be like a module As big as crocodiles.
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As big as crocodiles.
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I thought those are only in movies.
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No, they're real.
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They're real?
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So you go to Labuan Bajo,
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which is like a part of the big island.
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And then there's a small island called Pulau Rinca okay where you can go there
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and see these nearly extinct species and a lot of protected they are they are
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but you can you can like go up close some people
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like touch them right you know i cannot cannot i will never try to do
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that in my life yeah yeah yeah all right i cannot
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cannot cannot cannot cannot what about with the fence do you want to do anything specific with the fence
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if you have like a fan experience what do you want to do
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if i can i want to um for my audience yeah
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what i want to do with my my audience in indonesia yeah
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if i can maybe after ramadan i want to throw a
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party for them nice yeah yeah like all out party with
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all our party food everything just you know just make them have a good time that's That's really nice.
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This is how I usually am.
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Let's say in some crazy world, right?
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Someone has never heard of Jackson Wang.
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Let's just say.
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No, this is very common.
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Very common.
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Let's just say, right?
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And they're like, yo, put me on some Jackson Wang songs.
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What are your three recommendations for them from you?
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Three?
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And it doesn't have to be like your most popular hits, right?
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The ones that mean the most to you.
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I think it's about to come out.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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From the new album?
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Yeah.
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This album is 100% what I want to talk about.
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Like what that represents me.
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Yeah.
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Whether it's a hit or not, I don't really care.
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It's just a real message from me talking and sharing my point of view as a person.
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Yeah.
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And I've heard one song from,
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because that's the only one you've released.
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Yeah, but that's an introduction.
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That's an introduction.
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I must say, I got really scared by the intro.
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Not scared, because I saw the music video.
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Oh, you saw it?
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Yeah.
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And the words at the beginning.
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You said...
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People only judge you from your past.
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People only judge you from your past,
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but no one knows what's in your mind until you do it.
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It's kind of motivational, but it's also a little dark.
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I don't know.
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It's the truth.
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That's the truth.
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Yeah.
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because a lot of people will say oh I have this idea
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or this this this but
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when I'm talking about an idea I already know it in my mind
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that I will land it I will make it happen but
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when I'm talking this I'm having this conversation with every anyone
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else they can't see it you feel me you're right you're right but how do I
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so rather than talking about it
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because people only judge things by results you know you feel me
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so so that's what I realized
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and that's why you know rather than talking let me just
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land it people don't really care about process yeah yeah yeah
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you're absolutely correct they just want to see the end result okay And I saw the result.
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The result is the video clip.
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That's the intro of the entire album, what it's gonna be.
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Oh, looking forward to that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because I really like that kind of stuff.
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Although I think you're in a different element.
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Because like in that high alone song, you're going like falsetto.
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You're almost in a high register.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Are you comfortable in like singing?
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It sounds to me like a falsetto.
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Yeah, it is falsetto.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because it sounds pretty cool.
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It sounds cinematic somehow.
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Like it's an experience.
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It sounds like a soundtrack of a movie.
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Exactly.
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That's my purpose.
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Yeah, that was my approach.
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Because I want people to focus on the narrative.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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And let's talk about the music video.
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Because the music video is very cool.
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It has elements of magic in it.
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Magic Man 2, obviously, right?
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Um, but the magic is failing.
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I saw the music video,
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you didn't escape or did you?
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I don't know, you didn't because there's a shot of you just like
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Drowning or out of breath and like it goes to the drapes and then drapes went all red Yeah, yeah, right.
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I didn't escape because actually that was a metaphor and an analogy that I wrote That I created
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It's an analogy of the truth and the truth of of what society is
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and what entertainment is yeah yeah
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so it's like your message for for entertainment as a whole
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or is that what you feel any industry any reality any society industry it's what it is it's
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that but i'm just using the magic world and that narrative as an analogy.
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For this upcoming album, right?
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You're.. you title it Magic Man 2.
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Not Lost and Found 2.
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Not Mirrors 2.
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So what is it in Magic Man 1 that made you want to do a second one?
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Magic Man 1 was released but you know a lot of things were not explained.
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Like what is Magic Man?
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And why the makeup?
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Why does it look like that?
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So that the explanation comes in Magic Man 2.
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The genre is very diverse,
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but all narrative, all the titles and the context,
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the content is talking about my view of society, industry, humanity, and reality.
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So there are some songs about my family some songs about this any industry
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and some songs about what I think of what I think humanity is Okay,
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but why a magic man is it
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because you just want something to appear out of nowhere or you want something amazing It has nothing to do with magic.
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Okay.
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Yeah, and I think I think it was just a name for for a placeholder for
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it could be anything
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so everyone has their own magic man here today i'm meeting you guys you know whoever
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that i meet but i don't that is one version of
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that but then i will never know who they are inside you yeah yeah
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and whatever that is i'm just using
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that name as an analogy of magic man to me it looks it looks dark magic man yeah
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because that was the real me in this industry where I saw nothing but darkness.
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There was a long period of time that that's what I saw.
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And that's why the real me looks like that.
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That's me inside.
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The guy in the mirror in the music video.
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Yeah.
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That's a scary man.
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Maybe a man that got hurt so much.
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Yeah, and when you're as a kid, I debuted so young.
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At what age?
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1918. Oh, wow.
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Yeah,
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and there was a kid you know i didn't know anything
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it was a first time meeting getting into this society first
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time in this industry there are a lot meeting a lot of people going through this and going through that so
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witnessed a lot you know i experienced a lot too
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so there were a lot there were a long period of time where I was really down
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and depressed because the reality of the industry yeah
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you're you're well what's your magic man I mean what is a side of you
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that people don't know yeah I think they pretty much know everything already honestly okay I think the only thing
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that they probably don't know is i don't know it's this how i sleep
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so when i'm in my hotel room extremely like how i shower i think
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that people don't know right but i think other than
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that people know everything
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because i always keep it i try to um i don't want to hide who i am
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if i feel a certain way i would say it
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and I might be wrong but who's always right you know
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so yes you feel me there's no such thing
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so I can I am a human being I can I can say the stuff
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that I believe and
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if people don't agree with it well it is what it is you know
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because I believe me maybe maybe I'm wrong you know so
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but I just want to keep it just simple
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and straightforward yeah you haven't actually answered me the three songs you want to get from the Magic Man 2 album?
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It's gonna be in my album.
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And you're not even gonna mention any of the songs?
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Yeah, no, no, no, no,
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no. So it's all coming?
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Yeah, Magic Man 2.
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Yeah.
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What about, okay, what about Magic Man 1?
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Let's go back.
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From your past three albums, which ones?
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Three songs?
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Feeling Lucky.
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It's me and BB.
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Okay.
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Yeah, and then Titanic, me and Brian.
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Yeah.
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California by I did the remix.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Sometimes it's weird to listen to your own song, you know?
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Yeah, sometimes it's weird.
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But if you're like, let's say, you're partying, right?
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Everyone's hype, everyone's lit, and your song comes on, how do you feel?
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I would want to hide.
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I really want to hide.
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Even when everyone's singing, going crazy.
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It's so awkward.
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By the way, is it easier to rap in Korean, Chinese, or English?
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I think it's just the same.
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It's just syllables.
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Okay.
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You get it mixed up sometimes?
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No, no, no, no, no. I.. yeah, I'm okay.
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That's a crazy skill.
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Like, add props to you.
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Yeah, that's why I cannot get unemployed.
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So if the music thing don't work,
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I can be a translator.
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Yeah!
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Well, I guess those are my questions for you.
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Jackson Wang, thank you very much.
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Thank you very much.
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Your hands are very cold.
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I get nervous when like interviewing people.
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Your hands are so warm.
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Shoot.
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Thank you very much.
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Love you guys.
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See you guys.
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Thank you.
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Key Vocabulary & Phrases
- Down and depressed - feelings of sadness or low mood
- Unemployed - not having a job
- Throw a party - to organize a celebration
- Bali - a popular vacation destination in Indonesia
- Spicy - having a strong flavor due to spices
- Allergic to - having a physical reaction to certain substances
- Wonton - a type of Chinese dumpling
- Dim sum - a variety of small dishes served in Chinese cuisine
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