Shadowing Practice: Watch Me Deprogram A Zoomer's Anti-Zionism In Real Time - Learn English Speaking with Video

Choose a practice mode

Each mode opens a full-screen practice room.

530 sentences

If sentences are too short or too long, click Edit to adjust them.

what would you like to learn about the uk or israel

both i've got all the time in the world let's start let's start with where you are now

so i'm in israel i believe my children's survival is dependent

on there being a jewish state there are dozens of muslim

states dozens of christian states there's only one jewish state And the Jewish people, arguably more than maybe not any people,

but certainly most people, have been persecuted for millennia, thousands of years, and have been unable to defend ourselves.

We've been at the mercy of benevolent or malevolent leaders and

so when a tyrant raised up and slaughtered our people

when the masses hordes flocked onto the street to slaughter jews

in racist pogroms we had nowhere to turn other than friendly neighbors

that may may let us in may offer some sort of protection

and for the first time in 2000 years

when those tyrants rise up to slaughter rise up to slaughter jews we now have a military In fact, we have one of the most powerful militaries in the region,

and gone are the days when my children were indefensible and completely vulnerable to racial prejudice.

That's a very, very fair take.

Now, from my personal opinion, I think both sides are very wrong in the current state

of affairs i think how one side you've got a very desperate side palestinians

and they've turned towards hamas which is a terrorist organization a very bad one of

that to look for freedom in their eyes one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist correct

so in their eyes they i would say a large majority

of them see well at the start of the war

which has been going on for a very long time by

the way it's not just recent shit's been happening for a very long time it's only just boiled over recently uh

i would say they started off seeing them especially when when did

when did the hamas war hamas palestine israeli war start it's

like 2023 october 7th 23 yeah yeah i thought it was 23

that's been going on three years now

which is a very long time ukraine's been going on even longer

which is crazy um but yeah they look they turned to a a possible ray of hope

and it turned out very badly because they started killing children

and all this terrible stuff they started beheading people in streets

and stuff public executions and it's very bad now at the start of the war

in sort of 23 i was a lot more leaning towards the israeli side

because i was like well these guys are starting wars

and stuff and then over the years i've slowly gradually learned to

dislike both equally now this is not saying

that i just dislike palestinian people like dislike israelites

or jews in general because to to focus in on what one person is doing

and lump a whole group of other people in with

that one person is very wrong because that's like saying all germans are wrong

because adolf hitler killed six million jews you wouldn't go up to a german in the street today

and go you nazi would you so i see equal

and fair opportunity for everyone in the world

but they're the very select few people on both sides

that are doing wrongdoing and taking advantage of people

so corrupt soldiers on the israeli and palestinian side corrupt governments

which you can't lie both both sides there's been a little bit of corruptness going on between state

and state interfering you know average stuff and then obviously links to america

and we all know how bad america is at the moment in their political state i feel

that maybe both sides need changing before the war ends i

feel like it will happen i feel like obviously benjamin netanyahu hasn't been the greatest president is it president

or prime minister it's prime minister isn't it yeah yeah he hasn't been the best

because obviously there's been times where a lot of

innocent palestinian people have been killed at the hand of the idf

which in turn they say it's self -defense but in reality they are driving tanks into innocent unarmed people

and using the statement of bombing a hotel a hospital with the fact

that there is tunnels underneath it you see where i'm going at it's kind of like blow everyone up

and hope to get rid of all of it it the

best way to do it is you're never going to get rid of a belief

because belief spreads so it's like getting trying to get rid of religion you try

and kill you you'd have to kill literally every single person even then you would still fail

because someone born 20 years later would believe the same thing correct

so what they're doing is wrong but in both sides because you cannot excuse terrorism you can excuse the

pushing on genocide of innocent palestinian civilians now we've seen this

happen before in history where both sides are wrong vietnam both

sides you could say vietnam wasn't doing anything wrong with the world

but back then they thought communism was the root of all evil

or so so they thought it was a good show of power to go halfway across the world

invade a small little country and fail to do so they didn't fail to do so they did very well but

they start to run out of funding so they pulled out and lost the war because they forfeited

um that's a very miscommon fact

that america didn't lose the war they forfeited before they lost they didn't just get pushed down failed they forfeit

so it's a loss by forfeit but

it's it's like saying yeah i kind of made my point all war is bad

because innocent people are going to get killed on either end

i disagree with everything you've just said all war is not bad there's such a thing as a righteous war

if you have a nation genociding an innocent population

and the only way to prevent

that genocide is to go to war with the genociding nation

that war is a just war war is horrible

but it's sometimes inevitable

and it's sometimes the moral the moral thing to do pacifism is moral cowardice you also said religions

and ideas can't be defeated how many people worship Thor

or Zeus today religions of the Aztecs long gone no that's time there are there are thousands of religions

that are no longer in existence of course similarly the idea

that you can't go to war with an idea is retarded

yes you can't go to what you can't fight you can't fire a missile at an idea

but you can crush an ideology you can remove its power

we went to war with the nazis in the 1930s and 40s

and destroyed nazism it the ideology of nazism the ideology of

nazism is now pushed to the fringes of society whereas at

the time of the ninth nazi party it was the most

or one certainly one of the most powerful forces on this

planet you don't destroy an idea you destroy its power hamas

are powerful they are an ideology they belong to you you spoke for a lot

and the more and the more you spoke the more i realize you're actually not

that knowledgeable on that subject despite having so strong convictions and

so i must belong to an ideology called ikhwan ikhwan muslimin

100

ikhwan he's the muslim brotherhood they believe in establishing a global

101

caliphate they're they believe they're in a religious war with the

102

jewish people it is a moral duty for any responsible nation

103

to crush this ideology it is no different to isis should people have not gone to war with ISIS, because ISIS is an ideology.

104

This is an absurd position.

105

Similarly, you said that it's bordering on genocide.

106

In 1930s and 40s, the Jewish population of Europe fell by two -thirds.

107

In Gaza, the population has increased.

108

There have been more births than deaths.

109

The militant to civilian ratio is around one -to -one.

110

Around 73 ,000 people have been killed, according to Hamas.

111

73 ,000 people in a three -year conflict in one of the most built -up urban areas, most densely populated areas in the Middle East.

112

And of those 73 ,000, around 8 ,000 a year die from natural causes.

113

So you're already down to around 50 ,000.

114

Israel claims it's killed around 25 ,000 to 30 ,000 militants.

115

That leaves around... And...

116

25 ,000 to 30 ,000 civilians that have tragically died,

117

but that is an insanely low death toll for a war of this magnitude in this battle arena.

118

And the reason that death toll is so low is because Israel has gone to incredible lengths to minimize civilian casualties, despite your claims.

119

Israel has evacuated entire cities, over a million people from Rafa,

120

drawn maps, made phone calls sent millions of texts

121

and phone calls warning civilians to leave telling them where to

122

go facilitating 2 billion kilograms of aid to feed a population

123

there has been no starvation despite ridiculous claims of famine there

124

has been no starvation despite it being a war yes it's war,

125

yes it's horrible yes innocent people have died but this is a war that Israel neither started nor wanted

126

and despite despite the overwhelming majority of Gazans being hostile, being an enemy to Israel,

127

Israel has taken incredible lengths to make sure that as

128

many of their lives are preserved as is possible in a war of this magnitude okay

129

what do you want me to say?

130

you gave me facts, you gave me numbers yeah no no

131

so that was that was more for anyone that's watching this interaction uh and

132

because i i don't mean to be you you seem like

133

a lovely guy most people i speak to are they're well -meaning they're well -intentioned

134

but they make claims like what we're doing we're both wrong

135

we're both evil we're borderline nazis well what i would ask

136

you how should it no you didn't use those words again

137

that's fair you did say borderline genocide you did say we're both evil both bad

138

but not not me personally you made a distinction between the government

139

and the people on both sides to your credit you cannot

140

lump in with uh a government to its general people because

141

but i would say both governments are pretty representative of the

142

populations there is not one moderate faction amongst the palestinians every

143

group whether it's islamic jihad whether it's fatah whether it's hamas

144

do you agree with zionist beliefs what are zionist beliefs bro

145

i'm wearing the hoodie what are zionist beliefs i didn't even talk

146

that wait you think you're a zionist you are no i

147

am a zionist i don't think i am i am a

148

zionist what is a zionist uh i want to bring up some points

149

that i heard from someone else obviously i'm not going to be able to be 100 accurate

150

because i haven't read the book myself now i wouldn't expect you

151

and i'm going to try and tone down my aggressiveness i'm two defensives i'll try

152

and be a little no i feel you i feel like everyone is

153

so anti like not anti i feel like the population has

154

swung in one direction to be towards anti -israel now personally

155

speaking i don't have a standing on either it's kind of like they're at war with each other

156

and neither are my religion

157

move along they're gonna do their own thing religious walls have

158

been around for far too long um i think i think

159

religion personally speaking obviously i wouldn't say i'm devoutly religious compared

160

to you i'm not exactly one to go to church on a sunday this is that's another good point um

161

that i'll bring up in a second uh

162

but i was looping back to zionism here because your religious book

163

because there's two different books isn't it is there not there's like a scripture

164

that the zionist belief in it's kind of like the difference

165

between the old testament the new testament in terms of bible where you've got two different books

166

or one's a scroll and one's a book

167

if I'm not mistaken I think you're conflating a few concepts

168

so I'll just to save you I don't

169

because I don't want you to miss right yeah yeah I'm good

170

so you're conflating Judaism and Zionism

171

and I would argue Zionism is the destination of Judaism

172

but the Jewish religion you have the central text the constitution the foundational document is the the five books of Moses,

173

the prophets, and the writings, the Old Testament in the Christian Bible.

174

And then on top of that, we have the Talmud, which contains the Mishnah and the Gomorrah.

175

But this is a Jewish thing.

176

This isn't Zionism.

177

So any religious Jew, and any Jew, truthfully, follows the Talmud.

178

The Talmud contains the overwhelming majority of Jewish practice.

179

from the huts, the clothing we're wearing, the food we're eating.

180

You've got the little housing things you've got to show where you eat and stuff.

181

Yeah, I know the Talmud.

182

I just can't remember the name of it.

183

Zionism is completely separate.

184

No, Zionism is not based on scripture.

185

I mean, it can be, but it's the belief that Jews...

186

Yes, it's not.

187

It's the belief that political Zionism was founded largely by secular atheist Jews, people like Theodor Herzl.

188

Zionism is the belief that the Jews have a right to a homeland in our ancestral home in Israel.

189

That's it.

190

So you can be a Christian Zionist, you can be an atheist Zionist.

191

Many of the Zionists in the world are completely godless, completely atheist.

192

So it can be to do with religion.

193

You can have religious Zionism.

194

I happen to be a religious Zionist, but I can argue, and I would always argue, for the existence of my state based not on religion

195

but based on the right to any nation to nationhood okay now is it the talmud

196

that refers to non -jewish people as goyim no is

197

that different scripture no so the the goyim is just a hebrew word

198

which means nations and so the nation

199

which is referred to well i thought it meant like i'm

200

pretty sure i've seen yes i'm about to i'm trying to

201

yeah i'm trying to explain to you another term used for

202

cattle no you've never heard any jew you've never heard any

203

jew you've heard anti -semites who pushed this conspiracy theory

204

so no goyim goyim i i'll refute you in two seconds

205

if we need to go to chachi bt i can show you

206

but goyim means nations in hebrew and

207

And the nation that's called the Goyim more than anyone else in the Torah are the Jewish people, the children of Israel.

208

However, because Goyim means nations in plural, when we're talking of other nations, we will often use the term Goyim.

209

It doesn't connotate anything, it just means nation.

210

And over the years, Goy came to be a word that could be used to describe a non -Jew.

211

Now, in Judaism, we believe a Goy goes to heaven.

212

We believe a Jew goes to heaven we believe what all b'tsallam elohim created in the image of god

213

that we have um a free will we we are completely equal we are the only religion

214

that i'm aware of that does this by the way

215

that says people

216

that don't believe in our faith can go to heaven you

217

answered a question without even me saying it i was literally just about to ask what

218

because i obviously funnily enough i'm not jewish um

219

but again maybe i'm i'm severely misinformed under the religion

220

because funnily enough i don't have a reason to study on it because other than

221

maybe slightly political this is the first political talk i've had with someone in ages

222

um so i'm just asking questions and seeing your opinion on it

223

because i've spoken to people from the other side

224

and they've got their opinions i'll give you my i don't want to be a fence sitter

225

because i think we are equal i think we're equal i

226

think you're a guy i think i'm a jew to be candid

227

and i don't think there's any difference between us i see

228

you as my brother i don't believe i'm superior to you

229

i don't believe would you say there is anyway would you say there is a population of jews

230

that think they're better than other people

231

or not i'm sure just like there's a population of english people

232

that will believe they're superior just as a population of muslims

233

that will believe they're superior there's a population in fact i

234

would find i challenge you to find any population i challenge

235

you to find any population where you won't find members of

236

that population particularly when ideology or beliefs are involved

237

that do not think they're superior we've whittled it down here to a belief that i believe in that all

238

extremism is bad we've whittled it down to a belief

239

that i believe in that all extremism no matter what it is in is bad now

240

if you're an extremist muslim and you believe

241

that you should anyone you know because there's scriptures in all the books that are outdated like for instance

242

i'm trying to think of one for muslims where it obviously it might not be factually correct

243

but something along the lines of like like almost kill anyone

244

that isn't a muslim obviously but it's folks around the term kill it doesn't directly say

245

that but you know what i mean

246

but like the only thing i'll just jump in because i think

247

that i i do strongly disagree with what

248

that way of taking the conversation so i would say that there are there are levels uh well there However,

249

extremism, I believe in moderation in all areas.

250

You take the middle part.

251

You don't go to the left, you don't go to the right, you go down the middle.

252

That's kind of a philosophy I follow.

253

However, if you have an extremist Nazi,

254

and an extremist existentialist the extremist nazi is far more dangerous than the extremist

255

existentialist if you have an extremist muslim of course

256

and you have an extremist jainist both two religions the extremist muslim is far more dangerous why of course

257

because of the scripture the underpinning obviously you've got to put

258

it into context there's content this is why context is important

259

because if you put it into context like that obviously it makes sense

260

because you're comparing an extremist to an extremist

261

and you're basically whittling it down to

262

which side of the extreme is bad now

263

if you compare an extremist let's say it's let's say an

264

extremist muslim to a non -extremist muslim what are you going

265

to say obviously the extremist version is a lot okay can

266

i ask you can can i ask you to define what an extremist muslim and a normal muslim is

267

so what would an example of her not in terms of i'm talking more of a belief an isis member

268

or just a friendly neighborhood muslim that lives on my street no

269

but okay that's i'm not saying that's a cop -out

270

but i'm saying in terms of in terms of ideology in terms of so like

271

okay let me let me give you

272

so would you say it's extremist to believe that being homosexual

273

or acting on homosexual um feelings is it should be illegal no

274

so it's not so you can believe that homosexual should be jailed

275

and that's not extremist no i think homosexuality should be completely legal in every country no

276

but okay so i'm saying i'm saying if somebody believes

277

that people should be jailed for being gay is that extremist that's my question

278

no not at all you're just create you're literally voicing your own opinion you're not

279

so i'm trying to understand i'm trying to understand oh you're

280

so you're saying it's only action so you can say whatever you want

281

but unless you are someone who believes so solely in something

282

that they're willing to take action physically not just vocally

283

so for me to say an example time for me to say this is a good example

284

if i was to say i hate all jews you probably

285

say that's pretty it's an extreme view it's not being an

286

extremist it's an extreme view being an extremist is me going

287

to to become like a freedom fighter in gaza just for the sole fact

288

that i get to kill jewish people okay

289

so let's just play this through just to see

290

if we're in agreement so let's say

291

that everybody in your society do you want to do jews

292

or gays i'm happy with either i don't mind you go

293

for it let's do gay jews let's do gay jews so everyone in society believes that gay jews should be jailed

294

now nobody acts on that

295

but as a collective voice they set the culture the tone of a nation

296

and it's legislated they passed laws because that's what everybody feels would you say

297

that this is now an extremist society most the people haven't acted they haven't physically thrown anyone in jail

298

but they believe that gay jews should be jailed is

299

that an extremist society now the context

300

that you've put it in is a very good one

301

because it's a difficult context

302

because you put it in terms of a political route now i wouldn't say it's extremist

303

because you're pushing an agenda that's popular now you could say oh

304

but nazism was popular back in the 1930s

305

and it's exactly what you this is the exact route

306

that you want me to go down now i do think it's extreme

307

because you're pushing a gender

308

that solely picks out one i mean what's the population of

309

gay jews in israel probably very probably oh no no there's

310

that it's the tel aviv is like the gay capital of the middle east we have a lot of vegans

311

and a lot of gays on the west coast i actually didn't know

312

that to be fair so

313

that hey every day is a school day right i do think it's extreme

314

but it's not an extremist it's an extreme view and

315

if the extreme view is so popular by belief and it's

316

so popular by demand so let's say everyone in my city thinks

317

that all gay Jews are bad is an extreme view

318

and they're pushing that agenda so they're pushing it into the government and let's say the government

319

vote it in let's say they have a general election

320

and they vote it in now it's a very large extreme group of people this is the same thing

321

that happened with nazi germany now is every person it's kind

322

of like follow the leader in terms of this you've got to think about

323

because the tying it in because i know exactly what you're doing

324

because you're tying it in between nazi germany

325

and this i mean i actually just so you know i didn't mention nazi germany i wasn't going to

326

you brought it up and then yeah i know because i'm thinking

327

because that's what i'm getting from it is like that's the sort of

328

underhanded tie that you're putting into the context it's a it's a predispositive context

329

so no i was going to take it somewhere else can

330

i take what i would have taken it then we don't have to worry about the nazis no no no

331

so no i i think i think the nazis are a good way of putting this

332

because it's a con it's a real world context yeah it's the idea that's the problem

333

so for instance i believe that child marriage is an extremist

334

and a dangerous idea now child you have to abandon nomadic country

335

so we're in agreement we believe child marriage is wrong

336

if somebody believes that child marriage is fine and they promote it

337

and they advocate for it even if they themselves are married to an old lady

338

or an old man that is still an extremist

339

and a dangerous position it's not the action it's the idea

340

and that's why and that's why ideologies matter there is

341

that i'm not a moral relative moral relativist i believe

342

that some ideologies some civilizations are superior to others i believe western superior civilization is superior to a civilization

343

that sacrifices children like in the americas as an example to take it to an extreme yes

344

and so you're what country would you be referring to i know that's it's cool call me of god

345

but like what country were you saying to in terms of

346

that so the the aztecs in goes in america yeah no 100

347

but compared to the past um

348

and i think yeah i mean times were different back then i do a belief for different

349

but yes i get what you mean in today's term sacrificing a child is very wrong

350

and i agree it's dangerous to judge the past by the morals of today

351

but i still think you can make those moral assessments

352

and say this is a pretty evil society even

353

if they didn't see it themselves um yeah from our perspective looking downwards as

354

if no from any perspective any perspective a society

355

that sacrifices its children murders children for whatever reason is evil

356

yes it's wrong it's morally wrong i don't think that's from our perspective that

357

that is just i believe in objective morality i'm not a

358

moral relativist of course no fair enough oh you're not a moral okay fair enough i i was gonna say

359

if i if you were let's say reborn back in the aztec time without your memory

360

and you grew up to be the in such and such you

361

but you were taught let's say they we don't know i don't particularly i don't know

362

if you know a lot about the aztecs or not or

363

if they had schools or whatever i personally don't

364

but we're kind of jumping subjects here because the reason you're making sense

365

and what i was going to say is there's a difference between ignorance of course

366

and something being moral so you can be born into society

367

and know nothing but that and that's true that's ignorance yeah is it

368

but that doesn't make something just all right yeah and

369

so for instance i look at the institution of slavery the

370

institution of slavery to own a person i think is morally wrong i think it's objectively morally wrong

371

if you actually break down the concept of slavery that's

372

so mental that you could buy a person if you think about

373

that that's like me being able to buy you

374

or me being able to buy someone off the street that's

375

basically what it was yeah that's such a crazy fact isn't it

376

and so i believe anybody that believes slavery is it should be legal

377

and advocates for slavery even

378

if they don't own slaves i think they are that's an extreme view of course yeah exactly

379

so that's all i'm arguing it doesn't necessarily have to be action the concept itself can be immoral and

380

so i to bring it very back to what you were

381

saying um to do with extremists you said yes every community has extremists

382

and i say absolutely i know some crazy extreme vegans

383

and they they are the most annoying people on the planet

384

but they're lovely they're they're they're lovely vegans

385

that they're just annoying with their pushiness exactly of course exactly they're pushing agenda and

386

if they're like it it doesn't have to be physical harm

387

to someone to be pushing an agenda in physical terms like going inside of a mcdonald's

388

and like throwing paint everywhere or like going to a art museum

389

and throwing paint on the wall to say stop eating meat

390

on a nice piece a really historical piece in painting that's an extreme extremist extremism

391

and taking physical action you need to be the distinguishable part

392

is extremism does not have to cause physical harm to another person extremism can be vocalized

393

but it also can be a non -harmful physical attribute so a good example of being able to be

394

vocally extreme is like let's say i hate all i hate

395

all russians there you go that's a great this is very harsh you know to say

396

that obviously i've just cherry picked a country off the top of my head

397

or let's say i hate all turkish people it's very extreme

398

but saying that is one thing going

399

and acting on it is completely different now being able to voice your own opinions

400

freedom of speech does exist but it doesn't doesn't mean it's correct you know i mean

401

so free being able to voice obviously i don't know

402

if you agree with this or not

403

but being able to voice your opinions is one of the strongest things humans should be able to do

404

because it pushes your own agenda now whether you like

405

that agenda or not you shouldn't have a choice in it

406

because then you also get the the ability to voice your own opinion

407

because it gives everyone equal an opportunity equal opportunity to voice

408

their own opinion give you a level playing ground between everyone

409

to be able to voice your own opinions now it doesn't mean it's correct

410

and doesn't mean it's incorrect it just means everyone can voice their own opinions

411

and we can have a sensible debate like me

412

and you are having you don't have to go extreme

413

and start shouting at people i'm an advocate for freedom of

414

speech you know to bring it all the way back to the beginning of the conversation

415

so there's direction and we're on a journey together is that

416

if you then take Palestinian society

417

and take Israeli society I do not think they're comparable Israel is a secular democracy there's over two million Arabs

418

that live here with complete equality they're in the government their

419

political representation um Arab judges have sent a Jewish prime minister

420

and a jewish president to jail every time i go to hospital i'm treated by arabs half the doctors

421

and nurses in israeli hospitals are arabs in contrast the palestinians

422

have an a law article six of their national charter that bans jews from citizenship there are no jewish palestinians

423

um if an arab sells their house to a jew under the palestinian authority they face jail

424

or death hamas have executed people for homosexuality meanwhile there's pride parades in tel aviv I don't think these societies are comparable.

425

I think Israeli society, it's diverse, it's Jews, it's Muslims, Christians,

426

Druze, Baha 'i, everybody, I think it's superior to Palestinian society.

427

I think Palestinian society, and I have many Palestinian friends who are lovely people, but I think as a collective, as a society, it's a disaster.

428

And I would not like to say a Palestinian...

429

Of course, because it's ruled incorrectly.

430

and i wouldn't just

431

but i as i said at the beginning of the conversation

432

i think the governments are representative of the people i love

433

this this is such i think netanyahu netanyahu is largely representative

434

of the israeli people he's a polarizing figure half the country are opposed to him half the country like him

435

but they don't oppose him for the reason the west does

436

it's nothing to do with the war um it's just his

437

own it's like politics like actual in -house politics yeah it's internal it's internal it's what it's like taxes

438

and stuff yeah and so and

439

so i think the leaders we have are largely representative of

440

what the people feel nobody in israel really wants to end

441

the war until hamas is eliminated in contrast the palestinians i

442

think every single faction is engaged in terrorism is engaged in

443

what they would describe as resistance every time a Palestinian murders

444

a Jew there's a state pension for them the more Jews

445

you kill the more money you get from the state and

446

so I think these societies are not the overwhelming majority of Palestinians support Hamas that's not fair the largest political party

447

amongst the Palestinians is Hamas and the overwhelming majority support October the 7th

448

and what happened on that day and so I think these societies are not compatible

449

and i think one society is superior

450

which is why i advocate for one state solution to bring

451

it all the way back i don't believe there should be a palestinian state i think juda

452

and samaria which is called by many the west bank should be israel i think the arabs

453

that live there should be given israeli citizenship

454

and have complete equality with me

455

but it should be israel that's setting the education agenda is

456

israel just as in the arab communities here is israel

457

that sets the national curriculum

458

and we thrive like we're literally every time i go to

459

a hospital i put my life in the hands of my

460

so -called enemy the arabs and i'm completely safe

461

and we have brotherhood and we have great relations and so

462

that that's my ted talk my ted talk is no to palestine yes the palestinians um

463

but not as palestinians as israelis uh

464

because i think we will thrive this is this is a very very you've made an excellent point

465

and i agree with you pretty much wholeheartedly um I think that the government ruling Palestine now is very wrong.

466

They've been doing, like I said at the very start, they've been doing very wrong stuff.

467

Now, to say Israel hasn't been doing wrong as well is unfair because going back in history, you probably have done some wrong.

468

I would agree.

469

Every government has.

470

Humans do bad things.

471

Funnily enough, it's part of human nature.

472

That's kind of how it is.

473

The world wouldn't be how it is today without the way

474

we've acted in the past you get what i mean um now obviously you're never going to get this

475

so -called haven where no crime happens no the government doesn't have any any corruptness in it

476

and doesn't make any mistakes you're never going to get that

477

but you can aim it towards the direction of having

478

that you can never be 100

479

but you can get close to being 100 now what you said is very true

480

because you're putting into perspective

481

that the palestinian people themselves are not the issue it's the people currently guiding the palestinian government

482

that are and i agree with that

483

so there you go it's a very good point now you get extremists from i say extremists again

484

but you get i'll put it in a better way there

485

are extremists on both sides we have jewish extremists there are jews

486

that have done horrendous acts so it's fair language boschkowitz look at

487

that like jesus that was a very bad time in history um

488

but yeah it like going back to more of a statement

489

towards what you were saying yeah it's very true what you

490

said it's it should be i i feel like a one state thing it's difficult to say

491

because i can't i'd never lived there

492

so i can't say i've experienced living in israel i've never been um

493

but it's all basically down to what happens after the war

494

so once once it all dies down

495

which i don't think it's going to anytime soon it's kind

496

of going to be like this war where well i feel

497

like it's going to be it's a bit different to ukraine's situation

498

because ukraine's such a massive country

499

and both sides are very large armies whereas israel is a very well -funded military

500

and palestine is just basically hand a bunch of freedom fighters some ak's

501

and go shoot at tanks that's basically what we're boiling down

502

to they don't have an air force they don't have a

503

navy i don't think they have any armored vehicles to my

504

knowledge i don't think hamas own anything apart from technicals

505

which are just trucks with machine guns on uh i don't think they're in helicopters

506

so you see what i mean it's a very it's like

507

uh it's asymmetric warfare i agree yeah of course yeah it's it's like

508

essentially they aren't freedom fighters they're terrorists

509

but it's essentially to put it in the terms it's freedom fighters versus a very very powerful government

510

and there you go there's only one there's only one winner in this war i don't believe

511

that hamas are an existential threat to israel i believe they

512

can definitely not it's more of a they can inflict terror on our

513

but it's more than a thorn

514

and slade i know people who've lost children to them um

515

but it's they can massacre they carried out the biggest massacre of jews since the holocaust they could do

516

that they can do barbaric savage acts of course they can't

517

bring about the end of the jewish state with military they can in other ways

518

which is what they're doing this the propaganda war it's why i think we started the conversation saying

519

so many people don't like israel now that's because of hamas's

520

that was her master's strategy

521

and it's been effective what's up did you say my name oh never mind i'm going insane

522

but yeah i did hear what you said yeah yeah and

523

so it's an effective strategy

524

but they can't they're not an existential threat militarily i would agree with

525

that this is asymmetric warfare oh you know okay yeah i definitely know what you mean

526

but anyway brother

527

that i've enjoyed our conversation um this is my youtube i've

528

got yeah i've got unfortunately i got a lot to do today exactly

529

but this is my youtube channel this is where i'm going to post does um make sure you screenshot it

530

so you can see and read the comments

Download App

Everything you need to speak fluently

AI PronunciationScore every sentence

IPA PracticeMaster every sound

VocabularyBuild your word bank

Vocab GameLearn while playing

Scan QR

Download on theApp Store Get it onGoogle Play

Same Channel

Mixed-Race Nazi Shocked To Learn How The Nazis Treated Black People

Daily ConversationWorking Adults

FOR YOU

Recommend Video

783 sentences

'He's a TERRORIST!' Mohammed Hijab vs Jonathan Conricus | Migrant Protests, Iran War, Israel & Islam

Daily ConversationWorking Adults

226 sentences

العالم صار زي الغاب القوي يتحكم في العالم ! #الشرق_الأوسط #اكسبلور #العالم_العربي

Daily ConversationWorking Adults

259 sentences

The Most Destructive Attack Against Abolition

Daily ConversationWorking Adults

115 sentences

We’ll Never Beat the Houthis

Daily ConversationWorking Adults

86 sentences

The Most Ridiculous War Humans Ever Fought

Daily ConversationWorking Adults

4 sentences

نعوم تشومسكي يتحدث عن الصهيونية و علاقتها بأمريكا @NaimMythos

Daily ConversationUniversity StudentsWorking Adults

149 sentences

What Shawn Ryan Saw That Made Him Quit Politics

Daily ConversationWorking Adults

Vocabulary and speaking notes for this lesson

This B2 speaking lesson is built on the video “Watch Me Deprogram A Zoomer's Anti-Zionism In Real Time”. This video has 530 sentences and 6442 words to shadow. The speech runs for 39:04. The speaker talks at a natural 165 words per minute, close to everyday conversation. Only 81% of the words are among the 3,000 most common in English, so the vocabulary is demanding.

Key vocabulary in this video

The 15 most advanced words in the video, with pronunciation and meaning:

Word	Pronunciation	Meaning
extremist noun	/ɪkˈstɹiːmɪst/	A person who holds extreme views, especially one who advocates such views; a radical or fanatic.
ideology noun	/aɪ.diˈɑ.lə.d͡ʒi/	Doctrine, philosophy, body of beliefs or principles belonging to an individual or group.
extremism noun	/ɪkˈstɹi.mɪ.zəm/	Extreme ideas or actions, primarily in politics or religion.
genocide noun	/ˈd͡ʒɛnəsaɪd/	The systematic and deliberate destruction of a group of people; typically by killing substantial numbers of them, on the basis of their ethnicity, religion…
forfeit verb	/ˈfɔɹ.fɪt/	To suffer the loss of something by wrongdoing or non-compliance
overwhelm verb	/ˌoʊ.vɚˈwɛlm/	To engulf, surge over and submerge.
scripture noun	/ˈskɹɪpt͡ʃɚ/	A sacred writing or holy book.
funnily adverb	/ˈfʌnəli/	In a funny or amusing manner.
atheist noun	/ˈeɪ.θi.ɪst/	A person who does not believe in deities or gods.
morally adverb	/ˈmɔɹəli/	In terms of morals or ethics.
homosexual adjective	/ˌhɒməʊˈsɛksjuːəl/	Between two people of the same sex; gay.
slaughter noun	/ˈslɔːtə/	The killing of animals, generally for food.
dislike verb	/dɪsˈlaɪk/	To have a feeling of aversion or antipathy towards; not to like.
vegan noun	/ˈviːɡən/	A person who does not eat, drink or otherwise consume any animal products
testament noun	/ˈtɛs.tə.mənt/	A solemn, authentic instrument in writing, by which a person declares his or her will as to disposal of his or her inheritance (estate and effects) after his…

Phrasal verbs you will hear

Word	Pronunciation	Meaning
go down verb		To descend; to move from a higher place to a lower one.
boil down verb		To reduce in volume by boiling.
boil over verb		To boil to such an extent as to overflow its container.
break down verb		To stop functioning.
bring up verb		To mention.
build up verb		To erect; to construct.
carry out verb	/ˈkæ.ɹi aʊt/	To hold while moving it out.
die down verb		To become less virulent or strong; to subside.

Sentences worth repeating

Short, complete lines from the video that you can reuse in everyday conversation:

Similarly, you said that it's bordering on genocide.
I just can't remember the name of it.
That's kind of a philosophy I follow.

Grammar in this video

The structures the speaker uses most, with the exact words from the video:

Structure	In the video
Present perfect continuous have/has been + -ing — an action that started earlier and is still going on	has been going · shit's been happening · that's been going
Present perfect have/has + past participle — a past action that still matters now	have been persecuted · We've been · they've turned
Passive voice be + past participle — the focus is on what happens, not who does it	have been persecuted · have been killed · can't be defeated
Relative clauses who / which + clause — extra information about a person or thing	hamas which is · someone who believes · man that is

Pronunciation to watch

The speaker uses 241 contractions and reduced forms, such as I'm, don't, they're. Say them the short way, as you hear them.

The “th” sounds: atheist /ˈeɪ.θi.ɪst/, thrive /θɹajv/, brotherhood /ˈbɹʌðɚˌhʊd/
The “sh” and “zh” sounds: existential /ˌɛɡzɪˈstɛnʃl̩/, starvation /stɑɹˈveɪʃən/, faction /ˈfæk.ʃən/, civilization /ˌsɪv.ɪ.laɪˈzeɪ.ʃən/, citizenship /ˈsɪtɪzənʃɪp/
Long words — get the stress right: ideology /aɪ.diˈɑ.lə.d͡ʒi/, extremism /ɪkˈstɹi.mɪ.zəm/, homosexual /ˌhɒməʊˈsɛksjuːəl/, asymmetric /ˌeɪ.səˈmɛt.ɹɪk/, existentialist /ɛɡzɪsˈtɛnt͡ʃʰələst/

How to practise with this video

Listen to the whole video once without speaking and note the words you do not know.
Start at 0.75× speed, shadow it sentence by sentence, then go back to normal speed once it feels easy.
Record yourself and compare with the original, paying attention to words like extremist, ideology, extremism.

What is the Shadowing Technique?

Shadowing is a science-backed language learning technique originally developed for professional interpreter training and popularized by polyglot Dr. Alexander Arguelles. The method is simple but powerful: you listen to native English audio and immediately repeat it out loud — like a shadow following the speaker with just a 1–2 second delay. Unlike passive listening or grammar drills, shadowing forces your brain and mouth muscles to simultaneously process and reproduce real speech patterns. Research shows it significantly improves pronunciation accuracy, intonation, rhythm, connected speech, listening comprehension, and speaking fluency — making it one of the most effective methods for IELTS Speaking preparation and real-world English communication.

Shadowing technique: read the full step-by-step guide →

Shadowing Practice: Watch Me Deprogram A Zoomer's Anti-Zionism In Real Time - Learn English Speaking with Video

Choose a practice mode

Download App

Mixed-Race Nazi Shocked To Learn How The Nazis Treated Black People

'He's a TERRORIST!' Mohammed Hijab vs Jonathan Conricus | Migrant Protests, Iran War, Israel & Islam

What years of extreme isolation have done to me

History of Israel-Palestine Conflict

I Got Access To The World's Most Secretive Jews

One on One with Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan

The Israeli Flight Hijacking Doesn't Make Sense

العالم صار زي الغاب القوي يتحكم في العالم ! #الشرق_الأوسط #اكسبلور #العالم_العربي

The Most Destructive Attack Against Abolition

We’ll Never Beat the Houthis

The Most Ridiculous War Humans Ever Fought

نعوم تشومسكي يتحدث عن الصهيونية و علاقتها بأمريكا @NaimMythos

What Shawn Ryan Saw That Made Him Quit Politics

Vocabulary and speaking notes for this lesson

Key vocabulary in this video

Phrasal verbs you will hear

Sentences worth repeating

Grammar in this video

Pronunciation to watch

How to practise with this video

What is the Shadowing Technique?