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Now for our daily panel, Dave Vitale, BBM Motivation Founder, joins us this morning alongside Joe Robertson, Parenting Specialist.

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Now for our daily panel, Dave Vitale, BBM Motivation Founder, joins us this morning alongside Joe Robertson, Parenting Specialist.

Good morning to you both.

Morning.

Good to see you.

Hey, what do you think of Judith Collins?

A long time, you're trying to do the eyebrow, aren't you?

What does that mean?

You know, she lifts her eyebrow.

Oh, I'm not trying to do the eyebrow.

That was just your face.

I'm a young Judith Collins.

What do you think of it?

Like, what do you think her legacy will be?

My core memory of Judith Collins is when she went for prime minister against Jacinda Ardern.

And you maybe won't understand this, but it was a big deal to see two women go for the role for those of us of the sex.

It was like, it was exciting.

This felt really encouraging.

It was four years after Donald Trump had got in, which felt like a punch in the face, and you know, like we'd moved 50 years backwards.

And so even if I don't love her politics, I felt really positive about the moment.

Did you miss the Shipley-Clark 1999 face-off?

I was in high school.

Too young.

So this was, I mean, I remember that, but it didn't land the same way.

Right.

And this is this principle of C1B1.

So when little girls or anyone of a particular group see somebody like them in a role they feel like they could

one day be that it's very powerful and i think that's why diversity is really important oh okay see i didn't see

any gays on tv and think oh i want to be one of them but then anyway just will be now will

they or is it just like people you know what i mean no it's a real phenomenon yeah it's c1b1 is a real thing C1B1.

Yeah.

OK.

Dave?

Yeah, I mean, it's good that you advise her about her camera angle on that Zoom call.

I did.

I think, Ryan, you need to hold, like, you could make some money and hold, like, a seminar, a course, a one-back course on how to hold Zoom interviews.

So that's not all head.

Only boomers would be there.

But, I mean, my memory of her is, it's not a good one.

It's when my sister got, she was sick in prison.

When Judith was a corrections minister, my sister was sick in prison.

They didn't take her to hospital for a couple of months.

By the time they took her to hospital, they took her stomach out, gave her six months to live.

Sent her back to prison, gave her a bell to ring for when she needed pain relief.

The bell had no ringer.

Joseph Parker, her nephew, were lobbying her to release her on compassionate grounds, and they did it.

John Keith thankfully stepped in.

So yeah, I don't really have that much feelings towards Judith Collins, but all the best to her.

And yeah, that's why we fought.

And she established the Grace Foundation, am I right?

My sister, yes.

Which is phenomenal.

Yes.

That's amazing work.

C1B1.

Am I right?

That's right.

Hey, immigration, do you guys, for me, this is not a debate that's even really worth having.

There's a few things around the edges where I think, do we need to be importing fast food workers into New Zealand when we have so many young people who don't have a job?

Apart from that, on the whole, I think the system works.

Dave?

Ryan, have you seen some of these young people?

No. Well, I mean, I have seen young people, yes.

I think, but who's going to do the work?

Oh, they're useless.

Who's going to serve us our fries and burgers?

Well, factually, it's actually only 8%.

Yeah, all I'm saying is we can't punish immigrant workers because they're good workers.

Yeah, totally.

You know, so that's where I'm at.

And we should punish ourselves for not being good at work, like not wanting to do it.

It's okay to say all this stuff about, you know, what ACK's doing, but we've also got to invest something into making our people work ready.

You know, that's what needs to happen.

We can't just cut off immigrant workers.

But also, migrant workers are currently saving lives.

You know, they're propping up our health workforce.

Totally, 100%.

And so I guess I want politicians to really consider that, that one day they'll end up in hospital and migrant workers will be saving their life and to be, you know, speaking respectfully and with empathy about this group of people.

Yeah.

What about the young Kiwis, though, who don't have a job at the moment?

Do we need to invest in them, like whatever that is, Or do we need to actually be tougher and say, you know, you need to work for your doll.

You know, you don't just sit around and get money anymore.

You know what I mean?

I think, you know, I'm 47 this year, so I'm a, I don't know, I'm pretty old.

But I remember when I was young, I had to work.

Yeah.

It was like, you know, once you're 15, 16, you have to work.

Totally.

And it was instilled in us.

And I think that's also a parenting issue maybe, you know.

I think there's something going on why this next generation are not the best of workers or they're not so motivated to get out of work, pick fruit and all these different things.

I think there's less value on those roles now.

There's less ethical or moral communal value on maybe work, but also doing the hard yards early on.

I was at Kmart and then I was at JJ's and there was an expectation that all of us would get jobs.

Nobody was giving us money.

Nobody was paying for our phone plan.

Absolutely not.

I can see you at JJ's.

It was good.

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I was good at that.

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These would sell like $5 hoodies.

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Remember that?

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Those were the days.

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So Butter Fishpond is selling.

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Do you guys know what Fishpond is?

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It's kind of like in New Zealand Timu.

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Yeah.

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So I had no idea.

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I had never heard of it before.

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It might not be.

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I don't know.

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Well, it's an online retail space.

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You can go and buy stuff, including 500 gram block of butter for $5.99.

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This is Anka Butter.

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There it is.

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Look.

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fishpond.co.nz, free ad for you this morning, down from $9.30 elsewhere.

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This must be an advertising strategy, right?

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Like here we are talking about fishpond and you never have before.

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True.

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So this is marketing through and through.

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It's like a loss.

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It's a loss leader.

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It's a loss, but it's probably more affordable than marketing paybacks.

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But you're not meant to do loss leading, because if you do loss leading, like if the big supermarkets do loss leaders,

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then they undercut their competition, and when they undercut their competition,

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they stop that stifle them their competitors and of course that's a monopoly so you're not actually meant to do loss leading

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I mean that's my understanding competition law but what do I know who doesn't love a bit of cheap butter right

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finally this morning online harm and young people Parliament held a two-hour special debate yesterday and this was about

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the final report from the education and workforce committees inquiry into online harm affecting young people and you have some thoughts this morning Jo don't you

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well did I listen to that full two-hour debate yes I did was I also with the Prime Minister's policy team yesterday talking about this

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yes I was talking about porn with you I was down there talking about porn but just fits into the

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wider online harm piece yeah go ahead I don't mind I mean you talked earlier in the in today's program about government spending yes and how wasteful that can yes we did not need this inquiry.

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So I want to make that really clear.

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Really?

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That we didn't need another consultation process where we already know.

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Does everybody know that online harm exists to young people yes yeah right so we've established that there was a whole program put in place

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around this this government actually scrapped that so want to make it clear that this was an unnecessary process but I would argue that whatever I know

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I don't even know what the program is that you're talking about that they scrapped that it would have done nothing anyway that's not true well what what is it what was it doing what results was it What we're trying to do is we're trying to create cultural change.

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Currently 10 and 11 year olds are being handed phones that are basically mini computers where they get groomed, exploited, they're seeing content that's creating sexual harm.

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Totally.

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So all of that is, we want to change that.

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Yes, but how does a government strategy change a parent's mind about whether to give their kid a phone?

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, but we've done it on so many other issues.

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You know education campaigns when we talk to young people ourselves when we put in regulation and policy when health professionals get Professional development to ask certain questions like around self-harm.

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You know this actually does work.

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It takes about 20 years We're already 20 years behind so it's about time.

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We just started acting.

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Please no more inquiries Let's just take some action act yesterday made some negative comments about intervention Sounds like it.

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It does sound like act they are yet to offer a solution so we'd love to see any suggestions but this is not about this is

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you know maybe controversial to say but it's actually not about 15 year olds now it's about five-year-olds who will be 15 in 10

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years and we're trying to create change yeah inquiries it's like I remember researchers coming to us I wanted to

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research about the benefits of exercise for old people oh stop you know there's researchers they got read to people they got

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they got a million dollars funding to research us we've never in our whole entire existence of BBM got one million dollars at once

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to do the work but researchers can get one million dollars to research us the shit that they research is outrageous then every morning I

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come in I've you heard about this new study that you know walking alleviates pressure on your heart of course it does yeah we're not thick yeah but apparently we are there are spaces we go to race the ones giving them the money to do it.

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Exactly, yeah exactly.

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Hey yeah good to see you both this morning thank you very much.

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Thanks bro.

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That is Dave Letelli and Joe Robertson 27 away from nine.

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