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How much money do you actually need to start day trading?
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Well, it's pretty simple.
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If you want to make a million dollars,
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then just start trading with 2 million.
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Okay, I'm just kidding, but not really.
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So you're ready to take this leap and get started in this wild,
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wild west called day trading.
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And how much money do you actually need to start trading?
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I'll give you the short and sweet answer you're looking for today.
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And of course, the long answer with all the details you need to know.
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coming from a full-time trader of more than 10 years of experience.
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The short answer is you need a minimum of $3,000 to $4,000.
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This is the amount I recommend for all beginners to start with.
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If that's the short answer you're looking for, then there it is.
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But if you want to know about all the caveats,
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the amount of capital you need for different levels of risk in order to hit the profit goals you want,
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then you should stick around to hear the full story.
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Because yes, all the details matter.
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especially in trading and especially if you're just starting out.
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I've been day trading for over 10 years now and let me tell you,
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day trading is not as easy as download Robinhood,
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deposit $100, click buy and sell buttons a few times a day and just have money start raining from the sky.
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To think that you start making $100 a day trading with a $3,000 account right away, that's simply unrealistic.
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In this video, you're going to learn daily profit goals,
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why that's the reason most beginner traders will fail.
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How to trade with a small account of around $3,000 properly so you don't risk losing it all.
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The realistic account growth timeline you should expect.
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The PDT rule, the restriction for traders with less than $25,000 and how to get around it.
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Why bigger isn't always better in trading.
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How to properly start trading with a big account of more
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and ten thousand dollars i'll give you the cold hard truth
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not just about how much money you need to start stay trading
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but how much money you need in order to learn this side hustle
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or business and then gradually scale up your trading so you can become a consistently profitable trader
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trading is definitely not all rainbows and sunshine
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and money won't just magically land on your keyboard so
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if you're ready for the cold hard truth then please remember to hit the like button down below
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and let's get started daily profit goals
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and why this mindset will make you a losing trader many
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of you watching this video might be thinking okay i saw a couple of youtube videos
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and everyone's saying i can start generating two to five percent a day
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so
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if my goal is a hundred dollars a day then i
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can easily start with two thousand to five thousand dollars yeah
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no way that's happening i hate to break it to you if you're brand new just starting to learn trading
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that goal is simply unrealistic in fact the mindset of setting
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a daily profit goal of making a hundred dollars a day
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as a beginner is exactly the reason you'll most likely lose a hundred dollars a day instead i'm not saying
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that to be mean i'm just being realistic with you
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because that's exactly what happened to me i was a losing
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trader for pretty much the first two years before i start seeing any consistent green days
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and one of the biggest reason is that i was so focused on on starting out and making money right away.
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I bought into the dream of that day trader lifestyle,
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how you can quit your job,
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be your own boss, and start trading from anywhere in the world and make money on your own terms.
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But because I was so focused on making money,
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I did not have the patience to really observe the charts,
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learn technical analysis, track my strategies and performance,
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apply risk management, and so much more.
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Basically, I was so focused on hitting my daily profit goals
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that I did not put in the time to learn the skills and experience you need for day trading.
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It wasn't that I had lost almost $20,000 that I realized,
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I really need to take this seriously.
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I need to treat trading as a business going forward,
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as going back to school and learn the proper foundation in order to survive,
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learn the experience and scale up much later on.
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So that's why nowadays when traders ask me,
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how much money do I need to make $100 a day?
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That's the wrong question.
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Instead, you should be asking how much money am I willing to pay as a market tuition to learn the skill?
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And like I mentioned to you earlier,
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three to four thousand dollars
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that money should be treated as market tuition not as income capital just like going to school
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or college you're paying up front to learn a skill
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that may pay you back many years later but not immediately
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and just like tuition you should expect to spend a good portion of
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that capital between commissions data fees locate fees and small trading mistakes here
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and there it's reasonable to assume you may spend 30 to 50 percent of
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that capital during the learning phase
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which is around six months 12 months of your trading journey
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and that's totally normal that's part of the market tuition as
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i always tell traders you cannot control how much money you make in trading
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but you can control how much money you lose
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so let's talk about it right now how you should trade
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properly with a small account of three to four thousand dollars
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okay as you can see on the screen over here i
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had this beautiful account size risk calculator spreadsheet here to demonstrate how you should trade with a small account
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and what your risk per day and risk per trade should be
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so this is hypothetically speaking let's say we're starting out with a four thousand dollar account
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and in terms of risk we should be risking anywhere from
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one to three percent of your account size per trade especially
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when you're just starting out so we have right here four thousand dollar account size
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if i'm risking one percent of the account
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that means per trade i'm risking forty dollars now take a look at this number over here
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if that's way too much then
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that means you should reduce it even more to let's say 0.5
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but for most people i recommend anywhere from one to three percent three will be considered aggressive
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and one percent will be considered conservative so let's stay with one for now
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so that's one way to calculate your risk for your small account
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or you can take a look at risk per day
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so assuming that you're okay with three percent risk per day
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which is 120 that's your max risk for the day
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and assume assuming you take three trades per day
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that means your max risk per trade is 40
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and you can play around with this let's say you're you
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have five thousand dollars this is what the numbers look like
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if you have a little bit less three thousand that's what the max risk looks like
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so there's a few things you should do with this max risk per trade number now
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that you have it this number you should consider this number
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to be your market tuition the max risk you're allowed to pay as market tuition per day
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or per trade
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and once you hit a number you're done trading with your live account by doing this calculation
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and knowing that max risk number for your own account size this allows you to start practicing discipline
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and know when to stop trading this is a very important trait
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that you need if you want to become a profitable trader one day
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and number two once you hit the daily max risk
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that you can see on screen you should stop trading
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but your learning shouldn't stop there you can switch to a paper trading account
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and continue practicing your strategies we'll just sit and watch
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and continue watching
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and observing the charts as you can see i don't call
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these max risk portrayed as a max loss per day i
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call it as paying market tuition to learn once again it's totally normal for most traders to experience
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that drawdown and pay this market tuition during your first year into trading there's no shame in
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that and
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if you want to calculate your own account's risk based on your capital you can get this spreadsheet for free
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if you sign up to my weekly watch list down below
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now that you know your max risk per day
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or per trade you can work forward in order to simulate your small account's profit
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and loss growth all based on your risk so what does
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that look like exactly now let's go to the fun part this page is a trading outcome simulation
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and I'll show why risk management and trading within your own accounts risk is
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so important now
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so you're looking at our trading p l outcome simulation now
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that's based on your account capital here the risk reward
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and your percentage risk according to account size
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so let's say we are trading with a one percent risk
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with a let's just call it a four thousand dollars account in the first six months it's very likely
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that a new trader's win rate will be anywhere from 20
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to 30 percent that's total again that's totally normal for me it was more like 20
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when i first started
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so that's what it will look like your account size will be four thousand dollars
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but if you keep your risk really really manageable and within
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that one percent risk even with a terrible win rate
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and the risk award of only one to one this is
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what your simulation will look like for the first six months
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so essentially for every 10 trades you only make money during
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that three trades and you are making the same amount as
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if you're losing so that's what we call one to one risk award now after six months
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if you go to this middle column here hopefully things are
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getting better you're getting better risk award instead a one-to-one you're not doing one to two
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so what does that mean that means for every trade
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that you lose forty dollars according to your one percent risk
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to your capital you're making around anywhere from 70 to 80 dollars per trade
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so that's what we call risk reward is one to two
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and you're still risking one percent risk
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and your win rate hopefully it's a little bit better now
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you can see by having a win rate of only 40
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percent you are now starting to see some green pnls
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and again this is if you keep risking one percent
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if you decide to risk two percent this is what
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that number looks like again um you know it's pretty good
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you're seeing some green pnls you're still not making big money
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but you're definitely seeing progress now let's talk about what happens
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after a year let's say you've been extremely disciplined with your trading you follow your small account risk tolerance
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and you are now improving your risk reward now to three
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so instead of one to two now it's one to three
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so that means for every forty dollars that you're risking
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when you lose money you lose forty dollars but when you make money you make around 120 to 130 dollars
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now this is the interesting part you can have a win rate of 50 percent
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and this is what your profit expectancy will look like for every 10 trades now
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if you steadily increase the risk to two percent risk this
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is what that'll look like you're not risking a hundred dollars
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but
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when you make money you're making anywhere from 250 to 300
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not bad at all now this will still work even
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if you still have a low win rate of 40 you can see
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because you are really paying attention to your risk award
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and your risk per trade you're still making money even though your win rate is only 40 Now,
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what happens if we increase that risk to 3%?
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This is what that figure will look like.
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Now, if you are doing really well with a risk reward and your win rate is now more than 50%,
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this is what that PML will look like.
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And if it's at 60%,
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this is what that will look like.
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So this is what I mean by you don't need a big account to make a lot of money.
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All you need is, first of all,
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good discipline to follow that max risk per trade
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or per day paying attention to risk reward
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and be disciplined enough to keep practicing your strategies
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and give yourself time again i wouldn't expect this kind of
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progress until after one year later the scenario here in the
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middle is what I would expect after six months again the growth is slow
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and steady
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and after one year this is the kind of results I
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would expect all trading within a small account for me personally my win rate is still quite low,
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only at around 55%.
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But now my risk award on my trades on average is a lot higher than 1 to 3.
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It's averaging about 5 to 10 because of a lot of the swing trades I take.
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But again, this is built up after 10 years of experience.
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And obviously, I'm not trading with a $4,000 account anymore.
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If you want to get a trading journal to track your strategies,
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win rates, risk word, and the risk calculator you just saw,
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you can get them all for free if you sign up to my weekly watchlist email down below.
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Next, let's talk about the PDT rule.
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I don't know about you,
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but when I first started day trading over 10 years ago,
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I did not have $25,000 lying under my couch to start trading.
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Trust me, I checked.
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And that was probably a blessing in disguise.
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I suspect most of you watching this video are in a similar situation
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if you're starting out with less than $25,000 then you should
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be aware of the patent day trader rule it's a regulations pending removal by the SEC
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so this restriction may be gone very soon under this current rule
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if you are using a U.S based broker
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and trading with under $25,000 then you're subject to the PDT rule
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this rule will limit you to only three day trades within a rolling five day period
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and once you hit
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that limit you're effectively locked out of any more day trades meaning you can no longer buy
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and sell on the same day until the next five day
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rolling period this is a huge restriction for beginner traders
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and something many traders don't fully realize until it's too late however this rule does not apply
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if you're trading from outside the united states maybe you're in
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canada singapore europe there's no pdt restriction as long as you're not using a us-based broker even
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if your account is under 25 000 however
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if you are in the us
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and don't have 25 000 to start with that's totally fine i'll go over some tips for how to start
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and learn day trading even
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if you're under the pdt rule the first option is to
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trade with a cash account the pdt rule applies to margin accounts in the us
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so if you open a cash account instead
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that rule won't apply to you the second option is to open multiple margin accounts at different brokers
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so if you have less than 25 000
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but you have enough to open that say two brokers so that means you have three day trades times two brokers
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there'll be six day trades a week now
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if you have more than 25 000 to start with that's
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amazing here's the most important rule do not start trading with
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your entire account size this is where many well-funded beginners blow up just
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because you have the money
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and no pdt restriction doesn't mean you're ready to size up
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are you comfortable with potentially losing a thousand dollars per trade
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if the answer is no then you should definitely size down it's fine to keep
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that fifty thousand dollars in your account but i recommend trading as
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if you only have less than five thousand in fact beginner
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traders with a larger account size should be even more conservative risking fifty dollars
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or a hundred dollars per trade
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while learning is far better than losing thousands of dollars just
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as you're starting out the market really doesn't care how much money you have risk management will still apply
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and maybe even more so if you have a larger capital to trade with now
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that you know how much money you should start day trading
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then you should learn a couple of my proven strategies next check out my free playlist over here
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