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Well, it's uh, it's uh, Will Filthman.
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I'm a huge fan.
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Great to have you here.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Happy to be here.
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Okay, now, should I call you Eminem or Marshall or Slim?
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What do you like to be called?
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Eminem Slim Marshall.
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Eminem Slim Marshall.
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Look at my mind.
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You can call me.
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You've got the voices as well.
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Hey, now, where have you been?
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What have you been doing?
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It's been what?
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Has it been four years, five years since the last album?
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and now you've got the new one relapse coming out but it's been a long period this was a deliberate step away from things i guess yeah i just i wanted to
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pull back from the spotlight for a little while you know um just i guess kind of reassess my whole career you know what i mean i
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ended up in rehab in 2005 and um you know just kind of wanted to like i was trying to figure out where i was going you know what i mean
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like where i was going in my personal life and career-wise and everything like where i was what i was going to do so i kind of wanted to i knew that i still wanted to i knew i I wanted to take a break from the spotlight, but at the same time I still wanted to do music, you know, because I'd go crazy if I didn't do music.
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And I guess you were still creating music, writing music in that period, even if you weren't releasing it.
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Yeah, I was writing music too, but I don't know, I kind of took the producer's role even more so and, you know, stepped away from the mic,
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even though, I mean, I was still writing, I was still making songs, but it just wasn't, I wasn't making anything that I felt like was good enough to put out at that time.
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And so, and then what happened?
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It just clicked again or you just thought the time was right?
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Well, I got sober first of all, you know what I mean?
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How tricky was that for you?
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Was that a difficult journey?
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Was that a tough thing to do?
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Yeah, definitely.
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It was pretty rough.
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You know, there were a couple of years that were pretty bad for me.
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But, you know, I'm a little over a year sober now, so I'm happy to do it.
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Okay, I haven't got the new album yet.
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It's not quite out yet.
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I've been given a few tracks.
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I've been enjoying them very much.
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They're great fun.
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The single's terrific But I love you know, I'm a big admire you.
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I think you're just such a talented writer What was the song you did about performing that was in 8 Mile?
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Lose Yourself.
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Yeah That's got some of the best lyrics.
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It's just such an incredible captures the kind of the fear of performing and the need to perform and the desire I just thought that was a remarkable piece of work If you weren't doing if you weren't writing rap, would you be were you writing beforehand?
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Was it rap that got you into writing in the first place or were you already expressing yourself in that way?
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Nah, I mean I didn't actually start writing, it was definitely hip hop.
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I didn't pick up a pen and realise that I could write anything until rap got me into doing that.
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I heard Ice-T, Reckless was one of the first songs I ever heard.
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Once I heard Run DMC, LL Cool J, I was like, this is what I want to do.
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So this is the first wave of the big rappers, this is really, Run DMC, those guys.
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Did you like Houdini and those guys as well?
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Oh yeah.
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The Fat Boys, you remember the Fat Boys?
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Yeah buddy.
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Oh, you could eat...
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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We should team up, we should do something, maybe release something together.
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That'd be hot.
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Do you, let me ask something and I'm sure people who rap get asked this all the time, do you sing ever?
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Say you're at home and the mood takes you, because in your rapping, it's rapping, it's kind of talking, if you're in the shower, a little bit of Frank Sinatra maybe?
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Yeah, a lot of Frank Sinatra.
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Yeah, really?
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Yeah.
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You got a good voice?
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No, I mean, I sing on my records, I can't really, I'm not a singer.
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But it's not singing singies, it's not like, oh, the summer breeze, you know.
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No.
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That is officially singing, regardless of what you think.
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But you ever get tempted to cut loose on a record?
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I mean, I've done some things, you know, here and there, like as far as like singing, but you know, I'll tell the world I can't sing.
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That's not my, you know what I mean, what I feel like my forte is.
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But, you know, some hooks, if you listen to them, there's melodies in them.
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Yeah, there's a melody.
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Well, the way you use the voice is melodic as well.
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Yeah, as long as you can hold a key, you know what I mean, or a note or whatever.
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You can do it?
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Yeah, I guess.
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At least I try.
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How was it when you were starting out?
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Because I know when, before you came along, there was only one white rapper I was familiar with and that was Vanilla Ice.
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He was great.
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He was, eh, Mr.
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Richard Von Winkle or something.
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No, believe it or not, believe it or not, I interviewed him years ago.
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And I quite liked him, he was a nice guy.
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However, he was kind of, he was kind of a bit of a novelty act really.
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You came along and it's obviously the real thing.
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But did you encounter that kind of prejudice?
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Did you encounter that attitude early on?
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People saying he can't do it because he's a white guy and this is essentially black urban music?
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I mean, yeah, early on I went through quite a bit of that.
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But I think that at the end of the day, I guess, as long as your heart is in it and you just keep persevering, you're going to break through.
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I mean, I don't know.
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I mean, it was certainly...
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It wasn't easy, you know what I mean?
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But I just kept at it.
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I got booed off stage.
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It was many times, as I did in the movie, like certain...
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How long did it take, do you think, before you got good enough to think, okay, this is working.
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How many times did you have bad on-stage experiences?
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Um, maybe a couple.
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So not that many.
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Because I'm pretty awesome.
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Okay.
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Let me talk about your new single, because you know what I love about your work, and I'm sure many people do, there's a sense of humor in it.
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It's funny.
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A lot of the time, it's funny.
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Not always.
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Sometimes it's dark and, you know, other things, but sometimes it's very funny, the new single is very funny and uh you have a firm grasp of popular culture you kind of um i think the word that young people use is this uh you diss some people
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in the new single some yeah yeah now do you have any feedback do you ever meet those people do they ever contact you and let you know what they think about it or no i mean here's the thing this is this is the kind of the way that i see it in the way that i've always said it is it's kind of like Like,
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these aren't personal attacks on people.
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I've never met these people, you know what I mean?
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So these aren't, like, personal attacks on their character or anything like that.
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You know, it's kind of like picking names out of a hat.
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And if your name rhymes with something good, you know what I mean?
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That's just bad luck.
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If you're, you know, a pop figure, you know what I mean?
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Like, in this world...
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Like Marilyn Manson, who you do, and Jessica Simpson, and Sarah Palin, I guess.
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But you can see why, if you do Sarah Palin, people might think oh he wants to make a statement about Sarah Palin or American politics.
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I do I want to nail her but if anyone's gonna I think you've got a good chance.
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Hey you're looking in good shape.
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One of the rumors I heard that when you're away that you'd ballooned up that you'd got really big.
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Did you put on a lot of weight?
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Yeah I put on quite a few pounds.
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How chunky did you get?
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I think I probably tipped the scales a little over 200.
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And was this just this was just eating overeating?
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It was eating it was taking pills that I had no business taking, you know what I mean?
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Doing things that I just wasn't taking care of myself.
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I wasn't taking care of my body.
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I kind of felt like, I mean, there were times I wanted to just give it up, you know what I mean?
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I was in a pretty dark place.
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To keep each other this now, you must be working out a lot, I guess, and you've got a fitness regime you stick to?
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Yeah, I run a lot.
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I run quite a bit.
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I get up in the morning.
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I was running twice a day for a little while.
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And how far you on when you say one it's a half an hour ten minutes what is it um i was running i was i was there was one point where i
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was running like it was a little too much it was a little extreme it was a total of 17 miles you know that that's you filling the gap you had in your life when you've given
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up the other stuff from there it's kind of addictive yeah it's like you kind of go from one addiction to the next and i'm an addict you know what i mean so i'm i
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guess it extremist like one extreme to the next well now am i white thinking that one of the things you're addicted to right now and i'm very excited about this is american
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comic books oh yeah i kind of i had that hobby when i was a kid like i used to collect comics a lot and i kind of i guess when i
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as i started to get sober i kind of like fell back in love with you know comic books again like oh this is dope why did i ever leave this alone there you go there's eminem on
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the cover of the uh punisher one of the punisher comics a recent one that's got to be you've got to know you've arrived when you're on the cover of the punisher oh yeah that's how you know you made it yeah the hat you're wearing in in that particular situation, because it's red, it rather like my wife has something like that she wears in the shower sometimes.
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I don't think they've done you any photos.
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But you do like the headgear, don't you?
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Yeah, I do like the headgear.
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Yeah, and what's the name of the guys you perform with, the group?
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D12.
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D12.
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Now, here's a photograph.
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They all look very splendid, but the fella to the bottom right, he appears to be wearing his grandmother's shower cap.
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Do you have any, is there any quality control that goes on with the gang around you?
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When they come in, they fire in, do you ever say, good, good, good, oh, absolutely not, or you just let it come and fall as it does?
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No, when he put that thing on, I was like, good, good, good, great.
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It's a bold look, there's no two ways about it.
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Are you going to come back and do some more tours?
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I haven't got that far as far as, like, touring, I haven't, like, got that far to really figure it out yet.
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I haven't got that part figured out.
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So I'm kind of in the album cycle right now, promoting and things like that.
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But we'll see how it goes.
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You must be pleased.
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The album's getting some great, you know, in advance of the album coming out.
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The tracks that people have heard, they're going down very well.
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People are excited about the material and they're saying, you know, it was worth the wait.
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So it must feel just about as good as it can, doesn't it?
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
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I mean, that's what I do it for, is for people to appreciate the work.
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You know what I mean?
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Now, you have with us, you have the fellow with us.
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Is he called your hype man?
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Is that right?
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the man who's on stage with you?
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Yeah, he's my hype man right now, but also he's in D12.
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D12.
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Do you have any need this evening of a human beatbox?
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Um, maybe we should just do the whole thing acapella and you should beatbox and then just...
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You might be thinking, I'm joking.
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We won't need alchemist.
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I am old school.
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I'm old school.
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Really?
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Yeah, man, I'm old school.
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I'm so old school, I don't even know what old school means.
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Me neither It's hard to bust the line to bust the one and keeping time it's tricky Tricky tricky and I can do it Wow
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Amazing amazing You know genuinely I'm a big fan Because I think you're just a hugely talented writer performer so it's a thrill for us to have you on the show It really is to Eminem meals.
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אוצר מילים והערות הגייה לשיעור הזה
שיעור הדיבור הזה ברמה B2 מבוסס על הסרטון “Eminem On His Controversial Diss Tracks”. בסרטון הזה יש 188 משפטים ו-2329 מילים לתרגול Shadowing. הדיבור נמשך 10:22. הדובר מדבר מהר, כ-225 מילים בדקה, אז צפו לצלילים מחוברים ומקוצרים. 83% מהמילים נמצאות בין 3,000 המילים הנפוצות ביותר באנגלית; כדאי ללמוד את השאר לפני שמתחילים. 50 מתוך 188 המשפטים שלו הם שאלות, כך שזה תרגול טוב לאינטונציה של שאלות ולתשובות קצרות.
אוצר מילים מרכזי בסרטון הזה
15 המילים המתקדמות ביותר בסרטון, עם ההגייה והמשמעות שלהן:
| מילה | הגייה | משמעות |
|---|---|---|
| tricky שם תואר | /ˈtɹɪk.i/ | טְרִיקִי |
| punisher שם עצם | /ˈpʌnɪʃɚ/ | הֶמעֱנִישׁ |
| sober שם תואר | /ˈsoʊ.bɚ/ | פִּכֵּחַ |
| headgear שם עצם | /ˈhɛdɡɪɹ/ | כִּסּוּי רֹאשׁ |
| addict שם עצם | /ˈæd.ɪkt/ | מָכוּר |
| melody שם עצם | /ˈmɛl.ə.di/ | מַנגִינָה, לַחַן |
| spotlight שם עצם | /ˈspɒtˌlaɪt/ | זְרַקּוֹר |
| rhyme שם עצם | /ɹaɪm/ | חָרוּז |
| addictive שם תואר | /əˈdɪktɪv/ | ממכר |
| beforehand תואר הפועל | /bɪˈfɔɹhænd/ | מבעוד מועד, מראש |
| rumor שם עצם | /ˈɹumɚ/ | שְׁמוּעָה |
| prejudice שם עצם | /ˈpɹɛd͡ʒədɪs/ | דֵּעָה קְדוּמָה |
| deliberate שם תואר | /dɪˈlɪb.(ə.)ɹət/ | מכוון |
| humour שם עצם | /ˈhjuːmɚ/ | הוּמוֹר |
| balloon שם עצם | /bəˈlun/ | בָּלוֹן |
Phrasal verbs שתשמעו
| מילה | הגייה | משמעות |
|---|---|---|
| come out פועל | /ˌkʌm ˈaʊt/ | יָצָא |
| figure out פועל | הֵבִין, מצא תשובה | |
| come back פועל | שָׁב | |
| go down פועל | ירד | |
| pick up פועל | הרים, אסף |
משפטים שכדאי לחזור עליהם
משפטים קצרים ושלמים מהסרטון שאפשר להשתמש בהם בשיחה יומיומית:
- What do you like to be called?
- Hey, now, where have you been?
- What have you been doing?
- How tricky was that for you?
- It wasn't easy, you know what I mean?
דקדוק בסרטון הזה
המבנים שהדובר משתמש בהם הכי הרבה, עם המילים המדויקות מהסרטון:
| מבנה | בסרטון |
|---|---|
| הווה מושלם ממושך (Present perfect continuous) have/has been + -ing — פעולה שהתחילה בעבר ועדיין נמשכת עכשיו | have you been doing · I've been enjoying |
| הווה מושלם (Present perfect) have/has + past participle — פעולה שקרתה בעבר ועדיין יש לה חשיבות או השפעה עכשיו | have you been · It's been · Has it been |
| סביל (Passive voice) be + past participle — הדגש הוא על מה שקורה, לא על מי שעושה את הפעולה | be called · I've been given |
הגייה ששווה לשים לב אליה
הדובר משתמש ב-78 קיצורים וצורות מקוצרות, כמו I'm, you're, you've. אמרו אותם בצורה הקצרה, כפי שאתם שומעים אותם.
- הצלילים של “sh” ו-“zh”: punisher /ˈpʌnɪʃɚ/, addiction /əˈdɪkˌʃən/
- מילים ארוכות — שימו לב להטעמה: deliberate /dɪˈlɪb.(ə.)ɹət/, genuinely /ˈd͡ʒɛn.ju.ɪn.li/
צלילים שדוברי עברית מתקשים בהם:
- /æ/ — פתוח יותר מה-“אֶ” העברית, לא כמו “a” ב-“cup”: addict /ˈæd.ɪkt/, rapper /ˈɹæpɚ/, rap /ɹæp/, alchemist /ˈæl.kə.mɪst/, relapse /ɹɪˈlæps/
- /r/ — הלשון לא נוגעת בשום מקום, לא ה-“ר” הגרונית: tricky /ˈtɹɪk.i/, headgear /ˈhɛdɡɪɹ/, rapper /ˈɹæpɚ/, rap /ɹæp/, extremist /ɪkˈstɹiːmɪst/
- עיצור קולי בסוף מילה — /b/, /d/, /g/, /z/, /v/ בלי להפוך אותם לאטומים: addictive /əˈdɪktɪv/, beforehand /bɪˈfɔɹhænd/, splendid /ˈsplɛndɪd/, rehab /ˈɹiːhæb/, breeze /bɹiːz/
איך לתרגל עם הסרטון הזה
- הקשיבו לכל הסרטון פעם אחת בלי לדבר, ורשמו את המילים שאתם לא מכירים.
- התחילו במהירות 0.75×, תרגלו Shadowing משפט אחר משפט, וחזרו למהירות רגילה כשזה מרגיש קל.
- הקליטו את עצמכם והשוו למקור, תוך תשומת לב למילים כמו tricky, punisher, sober.
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