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Hello, Lindsay.
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How are you?
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Hey, I'm doing good, Aubrey.
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Have you been watching any movies lately?
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Yes, I went to, I know we talked about the Odyssey, which is very loud.
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My suggestion is to wear earplugs or noise counseling headphones.
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It's such a loud movie, but I'm curious if you, did you see
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Project Hail Mary yet?
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Oh, we talked about it before, believe it or not.
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Yes, I did.
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I did see it.
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What'd you think?
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I saw it over the weekend.
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I liked it.
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I liked it.
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It's, you know, it's not my kind of movie necessarily, right?
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Like, um, other kinds of kinds of movie.
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It's kind of like sci -fi ish, but I liked the premise.
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I thought that was really interesting.
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And I thought
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Rocky was really cute.
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I might've overhyped it for you.
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Anyone out there listening is probably like, we're not surprised.
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Lindsay didn't love it.
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Aubrey hyped it so much.
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So I apologize for anyone out there.
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If I overhyped it too much, I loved it.
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Yeah, no, but yeah, I liked it and my partner really liked it.
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So I think there was something there.
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There was something there.
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I'm glad you saw it.
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And I wanted to ask about it because this is really interesting.
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We're getting into the difference of if I could say, did you see
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Project Hail Mary yet?
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Or what I need to say, have you seen
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Project Hail Mary yet?
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And use Present Perfect.
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This is so interesting.
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I'm excited to dive into this.
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I know.
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And if our listeners might be feeling a bit of deja vu at this moment, it's not deja vu, guys.
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This is something brand new.
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This is a follow -up episode to a recent episode of the Business English Podcast.
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So that's perfect.
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So by the way, if you don't know what the Business English Podcast is, open your search bar, type in Business English and hit follow.
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We publish over there three days a week, right, Aubrey?
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Yes.
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And we'll often do a series where we have part one or two there and part of it here,
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because a lot often with questions we get or vocabulary that we're covering, it would be a little different at work or here.
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And so you really need both to get the full story.
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Yes, 100%.
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So over there on Business English, in that episode, we dove into the grammar of past simple versus present perfect,
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kind of a very straightforward question, right?
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From one of our listeners that will mention that now, pretty straightforward, clear, we made it very clear to you the difference between the two.
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But today's going to be a little bit more on the edges, right?
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This is really interesting.
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You can definitely listen to these out of order.
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So stay to the end.
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We'll give you details to make sure that you don't miss that episode.
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But if you finish today and you're like, I really want a deeper dive into like why past simple or present perfect,
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you'll definitely want to go and check out that part one of this series.
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Yeah.
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So the student that inspired the original episode was from YouTube.
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This is Jess.
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And I'm going to read just part of Jess's question here.
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So you can know, gets a little context guys of how we're going to answer this today.
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So we answered it in one way last week and we'll answer it in one way today.
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All right.
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All right.
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Here it is.
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In the role play, you said, did you finish your report yet?
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It sounded strange to me.
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I would have said, have you finished your report yet?
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Could you explain this?
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Maybe it's a colloquial use of the past simple.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate your work so much.
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Yeah.
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So this is going to be really interesting.
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Be sure to follow
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Business English and All There's English Podcast so you don't miss these series.
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But this is really interesting because it's all about the word yet here, right?
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When yet is placed at the end of a sentence, it functions as an adverb.
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Usually means until now or so far.
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And we usually do hear it with present perfect.
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I agree with this student.
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I would usually hear, have you finished your report yet?
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And it does sound a little like, hmm, why are we using past simple?
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And yet we're saying yet.
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Yeah, because I think that's the way it's taught.
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That's kind of the textbook way to use it, right?
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Yet is, I think our listeners were probably taught in school, if you're using yet, you're probably using present perfect, right?
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It's like a flag, a trigger, right?
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But I mean, we're going to add a little nuance to that idea today.
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Yeah.
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It's not a grammar error.
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It's not ungrammatical to tack yet onto the end of past simple.
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So we're going to dive into this today, but we also want to share, I want to make sure it's clear.
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We use yet so many ways in English.
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We do use it in, you know, past simple and past perfect.
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Those aren't what we're focusing on today, but I want to give just an overview so that you're aware
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that you're going to see it out there all of these different ways.
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So past simple, for example, you might say, at that point, I didn't understand it yet.
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And what about past perfect, Lindsay?
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You could say, I hadn't eaten yet when she called.
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Now, both of these phrases, yet is being used very strategically to give context.
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Exactly.
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Right?
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Exactly.
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So the learner here is asking about something else though.
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So keep in mind, you are going to see yet as well when we're talking about the past like that.
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But the learner is asking about statements that seem like they require present perfect, but native speakers often use past simple anyway.
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So that's what we're diving into today. So some examples.
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Have you finished your report yet?
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Here we're obviously using present perfect with yet.
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Exactly.
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So we're looking at what the listener, these examples the listener shared first, that present perfect one.
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Have you finished your report yet?
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We want to look at like, why would a native speaker say one or the other, right?
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This is more likely to be asked if we haven't spoken about it yet, or we don't know or expect a specific answer, right?
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Then we're going to use present perfect.
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We don't have any kind of anticipation about what the answer might be.
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So it makes sense to use present perfect.
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It's all about what you have done or haven't done yet, but still might do.
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So present perfect makes sense.
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But what about past simple?
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Yeah.
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So did you finish your report yet?
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Is basically using the past simple, did you finish your report?
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And then slapping on a yet to the end.
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So what is the implication here, Aubrey?
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How's it different?
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Yeah.
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And it is, this is subtle nuance, you guys, but there is this implication that we've spoken been mad about it before,
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or there's some kind of understanding or expectation that it has been completed.
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And this is very subtle.
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There is a chance native speakers would just tack yet onto past simple, and they're not really thinking that through.
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They're not thinking, I want to make sure that I'm implying that I expect this to be done.
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It's more subtle than that, right?
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But when someone hears this question, have you done that yet versus did you do that yet?
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They're likely going to feel this a little bit of an implication of, oh, one of these is implying that it's expected that it's done.
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Yep.
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It's very, very subtle, but it could be there.
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And I agree with you too.
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Sometimes native speakers will just slap the simple pass plus that yet.
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You know, they'll just, they'll maybe intend to use the present perfect
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and then they'll put it in simple pass and include the yet.
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Yeah.
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So that's why it's so subtle.
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You can't read too much into this, right?
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Yeah.
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Don't read too much into it.
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Totally.
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So let's go a little deeper, Aubrey.
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Tell us more.
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Yeah.
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So let's dive into the structure here and some more examples because we use this and, you know, whatever we're talking about, this could happen.
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So for example, so we're starting with the present perfect.
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If we have present perfect plus yet, this is the most common.
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And the grammar is you just have have or has with the past participle.
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So a couple examples.
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I haven't seen that TV show yet.
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Right.
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So I'm using present perfect.
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There's this little bit of an implication that like it definitely could still happen.
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Right.
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Or in our conversation, you mentioned
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Project Hail Mary last weekend.
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And then maybe we could have just synced up today.
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Did you see
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Hail Mary yet?
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Because you would expect it to have happened.
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Right?
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Right.
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Exactly.
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That's a really good example.
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That's why I wanted to use that example.
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Because we had talked about it before, it made sense for me to ask it the way I did.
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Because I was sort of expecting a certain answer.
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Like, I've spoken about this so many times.
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You should have seen it by now.
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Right.
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You get tired of saying, have you seen it yet?
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Have you seen it?
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Right.
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Did you see it yet?
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Come on.
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Yeah.
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That's a good point that sometimes we're saying we're using it that way in past simple for emphasis, right?
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Did you see that yet?
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And we're going to change our tone too.
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Like we're adding more expectation.
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That's true too.
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Or let's say broadly, have you eaten lunch yet?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And it makes sense.
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Present perfect here it naturally connects a past action to now with this open idea of like, it's not too late.
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Let's still connects to the present.
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We could still do that right now.
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Right.
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And then moving on to past simple, it's subtle, but it is different, right?
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If we have past simple plus yet, this is when you expect something to be done by now,
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but there's a chance that hasn't been, of course.
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Right.
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So the grammar for this is did with the base verb.
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So for example, did you check out that gym yet?
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And this is where it's interesting because I really wouldn't ask it
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that way if we had never talked about it before, right?
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I might be like, have, you know, have you considered going to a gym?
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Have you ever gone to a gym?
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Right.
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But if we've talked about it before, it makes sense to say, oh, did you check out that gym that we spoke about?
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Right.
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I also, I think some of this could also be based on country too.
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I feel like I hear have a lot more in British culture, British English.
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I think in American English, we have a bit of a bias towards the simple past.
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So it could be that, like I said before, Americans just want to use the simple past,
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not the present perfect, but they also want to communicate a bit of a present perfect vibe.
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So they add yet.
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That's really interesting.
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Which makes it even more confusing, right?
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If you have friends that are British English speakers and American English speakers, the grammar could be different.
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The grammar they tend to use could be different, which would make it even more confusing.
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Sure, for sure.
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Why?
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Or you could say, you could say, you might hear, I didn't run errands yet, right?
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So this is okay to say.
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It's just.. it's just a little bit of a slightly different, or maybe we're just, like I said, aiming for present perfect, but using simple past.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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The slight, slight difference.
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I would say this if we've talked about it, like earlier I told you I was going to run errands.
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And so now I'm going to say, Oh, I didn't run errands yet.
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But if we haven't talked about it before ever, then it would make more sense to use present perfect.
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I haven't run errands.
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I was going a lot of sense.
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The recency of the topic really matters here.
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Yeah, definitely.
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All right, Aubrey, we are back in action.
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Let's go for a role play.
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Shall we do it?
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Yeah, let's do it.
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I'm hosting a get together here and you just arrived.
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I'll start us out.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Have you eaten yet?
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There's still plenty of food if you're hungry.
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I haven't.
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No. Okay.
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Thanks.
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Oh, Sarah's here.
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Did you meet her yet?
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Oh, no, I didn't.
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Is she the one talking to Mike?
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Yes, I think they broke up.
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I actually didn't know that yet when I invited them both.
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Oh, okay, drama.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And it's really interesting how yet is what makes this so interesting, right?
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And it's like you said, depending on where you live, people might not tack yet onto a past simple phrase, but Americans do it.
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You don't want to let it confuse you.
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So, um, but yeah, it's interesting to go through these and, and, and look at why did we add yet there?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So this is sometimes someone, something someone might say when you're hosting a party and someone arrives, you might, you know, cause you're offering food, right?
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Have you eaten yet?
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Um, right.
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Yes, exactly.
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Especially if there are like snacks and it's interesting that we're using present perfect, right?
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So because assuming you just got to the party, I would be less likely to say, did you eat yet?
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Because that feels like it would imply that, you know, we had talked about it before,
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like present perfect just makes more sense here where I have no information.
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I have no expectation about what your answer would be.
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Right.
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We haven't seen each other all day.
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You have no idea what my meal has meal eating has been like today.
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So there you go.
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That makes more sense.
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Have you eaten yet?
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Um, and then I said, I haven't.
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No, thanks.
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And then you said, Oh, Sarah's here.
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Did you meet her yet?
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Yeah.
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And this is interesting to think about, right?
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If we said, have you met her yet?
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That's where there's no expectation.
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So here there would kind of be an assumption that you
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and I have maybe talked about Sarah and I'm excited for you to meet her maybe, right?
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So I'm like, oh, did you meet her yet?
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Or maybe that you, that I had already met her in the party and before I saw you, right?
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Maybe greeted me, maybe walking in the door we met.
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Yes, Exactly.
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Right.
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So this is interesting because both are possible.
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It's all about context.
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Neither of them are grammatically wrong to say, have you met her yet?
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Did you meet her yet?
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Right.
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They both could work.
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It depends on the subtle implication of what you're implying or what you expect.
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And then here's what you expect.
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And then here's a question, Aubrey, kind of spontaneous.
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Would it be okay for me to just say, oh no, I haven't.
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I mean, what do you think?
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Does it really have to match?
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I mean, in everyday native English, I'm trying to think that's a really good point here too.
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I think when, when people are speaking, they don't, they're not really careful to match verb tense like that.
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If you say to me, did you meet her yet?
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And then I could be like, I haven't actually.
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No, it doesn't matter.
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Especially for conversational English.
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Yeah.
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We're not paying that close attention to the verb tense the other person's using.
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No, because again, connection, right?
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We're focusing on human connection.
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That's So it matters in that moment, being open to meeting that new person,
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greeting the host, showing that you appreciate that there's food there for you.
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These are all really important connection moments.
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Exactly.
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And these are interchangeable enough that a native speaker wouldn't even feel the difference there, right?
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Because present perfect, past simple doesn't change that much.
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So both would definitely work.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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What's the last thing you said, Aubrey?
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And then I said, I actually didn't know that yet when I invited them both.
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So I've invited two people who recently broke up, but I'm saying I didn't know that yet when I invited them.
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So I can use past simple here for sure.
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And this is actually the past perfect, right?
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This is a question that happened in the past.
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I didn't know that yet when that happened.
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Yeah, I guess simple past plus yet, right?
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So we talked about this earlier in the episode where we talked about we're orienting the person into the past, right?
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Of what was known at the time that something happened.
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So it's really two steps back, right?
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Exactly is what we're doing here.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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All right.
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So good stuff.
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So clearly, uh, we're breaking some rules over here, right.
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In everyday spoken American English, uh, compared to what our listeners learned in the textbook.
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Is it okay though?
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I think it's okay.
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Definitely.
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That's an interesting way to put it as like, if you learned something, you know, in a textbook and it felt like a really strong rule,
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um, then it's confusing when native speakers don't follow it.
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Right.
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It might seem like they're breaking rules, but a lot of things like this aren't really official rules, right?
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None of this is really a mistake.
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The only rule again is to focus on connection.
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Guys go over to business English 637 did or have that is approaching this exact question, but from a slightly different perspective.
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So we're sort of answering a different question in that episode.
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Exactly.
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So that's part one.
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You could get a deeper dive there into why do we choose past simple or present perfect?
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So yeah, but it's still, Well, if this is a fun way to handle grammar, when we get these interesting questions,
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students who are paying attention to the grammar, recognizing native speakers that are doing something unexpected, then it's fun to dive into why,
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what about the connection changes, what's implied depending on the verb tense you use.
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Yes, really good topic.
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Aubrey, final takeaway on grammar rules, breaking grammar rules, different versions of grammar rules, right?
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Like you said, Lindsay, the connection's the most important thing, right?
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Don't worry about the grammar and what exactly does this imply imply.
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Don't let that stop you from starting a conversation and holding you back.
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Love it.
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All right.
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Good stuff today, Aubrey.
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I'll see you back here very soon.
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You have a good day.
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Awesome.
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See you next time.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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|---|---|---|
| grammar คำนาม | /ˈɡɹæm.ə(ɹ)/ | ไวยากรณ์ |
| dive คำกริยา | /daɪv/ | ดำ |
| imply คำกริยา | /ɪmˈplaɪ/ | หมายความ |
| listener คำนาม | /ˈlɪs(ə)nɚ/ | ผู้ฟัง |
| invite คำกริยา | /ɪnˈvaɪt/ | เชิญ |
| verb คำนาม | /vɝb/ | คำกริยา, กริยา |
| connect คำกริยา | /kəˈnɛkt/ | เชื่อม, ต่อ |
| depend คำกริยา | /dɪˈpɛnd/ | พึ่ง |
| podcast คำนาม | /ˈpɑdˌkæst/ | พอดแคสต์, พอดคาสต์ |
| tense คำนาม | /tɛns/ | กาล |
| textbook คำนาม | /ˈtɛkst.bʊk/ | ตำราเรียน, ตำรา |
| topic คำนาม | /ˈtɑpɪk/ | หัวข้อ, กระทู้ |
| meal คำนาม | /ˈmiːl/ | อาหาร, มื้อ |
| arrive คำกริยา | /əˈɹaɪv/ | มา, ถึง |
| phrase คำนาม | /ˈfɹeɪ̯z/ | วลี, ประโยค |
ประโยคที่ควรฝึกพูดซ้ำ
ประโยคสั้น ๆ ที่สมบูรณ์จากวิดีโอ ซึ่งนำไปใช้ในบทสนทนาประจำวันได้:
- Have you been watching any movies lately?
- Have you seen it already?
- Did you see it yet?
- Did you see that yet?
- Did you meet her yet?
ไวยากรณ์ในวิดีโอนี้
โครงสร้างที่ผู้พูดใช้บ่อยที่สุด พร้อมคำพูดจริงจากวิดีโอ:
| โครงสร้าง | ในวิดีโอ |
|---|---|
| Present perfect have/has + กริยาช่อง 3 — เหตุการณ์ในอดีตที่ยังเกี่ยวข้องกับปัจจุบัน | Have you finished · haven't spoken · have done |
| Passive voice be + กริยาช่อง 3 — เน้นสิ่งที่เกิดขึ้น ไม่ใช่ผู้กระทำ | is placed · were probably taught · be asked |
| Relative clauses who / which + อนุประโยค — ข้อมูลเพิ่มเติมเกี่ยวกับคนหรือสิ่งของ | Odyssey, which is · people who recently · students who are |
การออกเสียงที่ควรระวัง
ผู้พูดใช้รูปย่อและรูปลดเสียง 112 ครั้ง เช่น we're, I'm, don't ให้พูดแบบสั้นตามที่ได้ยิน
- เสียง “sh” และ “zh”: implication /ˌɪmpləˈkeɪʃən/, expectation /ˌɛk.spɛkˈteɪ.ʃən/, suggestion /səˈd͡ʒɛst.ʃən/, publish /ˈpʌblɪʃ/, assumption /əˈsʌm(p).ʃ(ə)n/
- คำยาว — ลงเสียงหนักให้ถูกพยางค์: implication /ˌɪmpləˈkeɪʃən/, expectation /ˌɛk.spɛkˈteɪ.ʃən/, naturally /ˈnæt͡ʃ.(ə.)ɹə.li/, necessarily /ˌnɛs.əˈsɛɹ.ə.li/, unexpected /ʌnɪkˈspɛktɪd/
เสียงที่คนไทยมักออกเสียงยาก:
- เสียงท้ายคำ — ออกเสียงให้ครบ ไม่เปลี่ยนเป็นตัวสะกดแบบไทย: dive /daɪv/, subtle /ˈsʌtəl/, confuse /kənˈfjuːz/, tense /tɛns/, meal /ˈmiːl/
- /v/ — ไม่ใช่ /w/ ให้ฟันบนแตะริมฝีปากล่าง: dive /daɪv/, invite /ɪnˈvaɪt/, verb /vɝb/, everyday /ˈɛvɹiˌdeɪ/, arrive /əˈɹaɪv/
- /z/ — เสียงก้อง ไม่ใช่ /s/: confuse /kənˈfjuːz/, phrase /ˈfɹeɪ̯z/, apologize /əˈpɑləˌd͡ʒaɪz/, headphones /ˈhɛdfoʊnz/
วิธีฝึกกับวิดีโอนี้
- ฟังวิดีโอให้จบหนึ่งรอบโดยยังไม่ต้องพูด แล้วจดคำที่ยังไม่รู้จัก
- เริ่มที่ความเร็ว 0.75× พูดตามทีละประโยค แล้วกลับไปใช้ความเร็วปกติเมื่อเริ่มคล่อง
- อัดเสียงตัวเองแล้วเทียบกับต้นฉบับ โดยสังเกตคำอย่าง grammar, dive, imply เป็นพิเศษ
เทคนิค Shadowing คืออะไร?
Shadowing เป็นเทคนิคการเรียนรู้ภาษาที่ได้รับการรับรองทางวิทยาศาสตร์ พัฒนาขึ้นสำหรับการฝึกนักแปลมืออาชีพ วิธีการนี้เรียบง่ายแต่ทรงพลัง: คุณฟังเสียงภาษาอังกฤษจากเจ้าของภาษาและพูดตามทันที — เหมือนเงาที่ตามผู้พูดด้วยช่วงเวลาห่าง 1-2 วินาที การวิจัยแสดงว่าเทคนิคนี้ปรับปรุงความแม่นยำในการออกเสียง ทำนองเสียง จังหวะ การเชื่อมเสียง การฟังเข้าใจ และความคล่องแคล่วในการพูดได้อย่างมีนัยสำคัญ