跟讀練習: Emma Watson Breaks Silence on JK Rowling Controversy & “Holding Two Truths” - 通過影片學習英語口語
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Emma, something I wanted to ask you about that's, difficult and challenging because It's something you spoke about earlier as to being such a big part of your life,
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an important part of your life. But...
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recently, There's been...
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so many conversations and comments directly from JK Rowling, whether it's her saying she'd never forgive you for your views,
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or the fact that when she was asked what ruins the movies for her, she named yourself and...
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some of your co -stars and I imagine that's an extremely difficult thing when you've been a part of someone's world, when you've felt connected to their work.
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and then for it now to kind of BF4 180.
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And for someone to publicly say these things that can be quite or extremely hurtful actually, How do you think about that?
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I really don't believe that that by...
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having had that experience and holding The love and support and views that I have mean that I can't and don't
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Treasure.
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Jo.
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and the person that I...
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that I.. had personal experiences with.
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I will never believe that one negates the author.
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and that my experience of that person I don't.
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get to keep and cherish.
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I come back to our earlier thing, like I just don't think these things are either or.
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I think...
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It's my deepest wish that I hope people who don't agree with my opinion will love me,
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and I hope I can keep loving people who I don't necessarily share the same opinion with.
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And I think, That's a very, very important thing.
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way for me that I need to be able to move through life.
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I just really, I guess I,
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to circle back around, I really do believe and having conversations and that those are really important and that
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I don't know.
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I I guess where I've landed is it's not so much what we say or what we believe,
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but very often how we say it, that's really important.
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And that's really frustrating and not what you want to hear when you're really angry and upset with someone.
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um But...
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I don't know, I just see this world right now where we seem to be giving permission for this kind of like...
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throwing out of people or that people are disposable and i i just think that's I will always think that's wrong.
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I always, I just believe that, No one is...
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No one's disposable.
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and everyone as far as possible,
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whatever the conversation is, should and can be treated with at the very least.
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dignity and respect.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for challenging us and pushing us.
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Yeah, it takes a lot.
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I think that's what we're all being challenged to do is try and hold two truths at once.
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And those two truths don't have to be...
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complimentary but they They can stand at the same time.
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Yeah.
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They can honor.
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I think the thing I'm most upset about is that, a conversation, was never made possible.
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So you remain open for that dialogue?
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Yeah, and I always will.
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I believe in that.
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I believe in that completely.
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um, I believe in that completely.
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I just don't.
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Yeah, I just don't want to say anything that like continues to weaponize a really like toxic debate and conversation, which is...
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maybe why I don't Well, it is why I don't comment or like continue to comment,
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not because I don't care about her or about the issue,
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but because I just, the way that the conversation is being had feels really painful to me. And so, That's why...
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that's why that decision.
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Yeah, I really appreciate that mindset and deeply, deeply feel like.
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if people are challenged to go there themselves like it takes a lot to think
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that way and feel that way yeah but it's it's what it's what healing really requires across you know, around the world.
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And I can't imagine how many young people who look up to you
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and people who look up to you will feel the same way to recognize that that's how we engage, that's what we look for.
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It's not that we're trying to make everything pretty and perfect.
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No, no. It's that we're willing to engage in an uncomfortable conversation.
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Yes.
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Her kindness and words of encouragement and that steadfastness. That.
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And also, honestly, just as a young woman,
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to for her to have written that character created that world given me an opportunity which,
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to be honest, barely exists in the history of English literature.
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You know, Thank you.
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you How can I...
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There's just no world in which I could ever cancel her out or cancel that out. for anything.
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It has to remain true.
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It is true.
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And this is where this holding of these, I just don't know what else to do other than hold
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these two seemingly incompatible things together at the same time and just...
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hope maybe they will one day resolve or co -join themselves, and maybe accept that they never will, but that they can both still be true. And...
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I can love her.
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I can know she loved me.
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I can be grateful to her.
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I can know the things that she said are true. And...
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that can be this whole other thing.
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And my job feels like to just hold.
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just to hold all of it. But...
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The bigger thing is just...
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what she's done will never be taken away from me.
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Thanks for saying such a powerful example.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, that beautiful F.
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Scott Fitzgerald quote that, "The sign of a first -rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas at the same time,
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and still retain the ability to function." He goes on to say, "One should therefore be able to see...
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that the world is hopeless, but still be determined to make it otherwise. And it's like, that's...
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F. Scott Fitzgerald said that?
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Wow, he ran deeper than I knew.
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Wow, that's incredible.
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That's incredible.
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Yeah, it's one of my favorites.
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Wow, well done you for remembering that second part.
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Wow, you've made me like Fitzgerald a lot.
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I mean, I liked him, don't get me wrong.
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Yeah, yeah.
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To me, it's one of my favorite ideas.
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Wow, that's so good.
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Yeah, it's so good.
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That's so good.
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Yeah.
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Emma, for someone who has tried to stay out of the public eye,
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you've still been vocalist about causes you believe in -things that you stand for.
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- Yes.
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And that always seems to get-- attention and reaction.
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And so when you shared online your solidarity for Palestine, the former Israeli UN Ambassador,
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Danny Danon, called you an anti -Semite.
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And his tweet said, "10 points from Gryffindor for being an anti -Semite." What goes through your mind when you see that?
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This happened a few years ago now.
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I think what concerns me at the time was the way that that label was being used.
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And I think even now,
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I see that playing out where people don't feel like they can talk about what's happening.
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safely this duality created where we don't seem able to care about the victims of terrorism.
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and care about the genocide that's happening in Palestine at the same time.
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Both things have to be allowed to be true.
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You have to be allowed to care about 50 ,000 civilians dying, 17 ,000 of which are children. And...
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care deeply.
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about the victims of this awful terrorist attack.
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I appreciate you sharing that and...
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Yeah, it seems like that belief system you have in yes and this and together, it kind of runs through so many areas of your life.
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Personal and beyond.
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Yes, I think that's true.
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I think that's true.
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I hope that you've felt you've been able to
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share the parts of yourself and the version of yourself that you wanted to and intended to?
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I hope so.
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I feel very hot and I feel very hot and I feel a little bit like, is this room even real?
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Like, are we, is this like a Goddard play where we're like in some sort of existential room that doesn't exist anymore?
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Honestly, I feel a little bit like that, then yes, I do feel that way.
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And I, or like, I've done everything I can in a context that's still,
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I can still see cameras and lights and I know there's a person behind me, but I feel to the extent to which.
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i i can humanly do that i've shown up for myself
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and for you in a way and the invitation
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that this podcast is and the work that you do in the world i've answered that invitation so and I feel
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I feel good about that.
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為什麼用這個影片練習英語口語？
這段影片中的對話真實且有溫度，Emma Watson 在談論敏感話題時的表達既真誠又有條理，非常適合用來練習英語口語。它不僅能幫助你掌握如何在複雜情境中清晰表達觀點，還能學習如何用尊重的語氣溝通不同意見。通過英語影子跟讀（shadow speak）模仿她的語調、節奏和停頓，你能提升口語的流暢度和自然度，同時理解跨文化交流中的微妙之處。
語境中的語法與表達
- “hold two truths at once”：字面意為“同時持有兩個真相”，實際指在衝突中兼顧不同觀點。例如：“我們需要學會 hold two truths at once，尊重差異。”
- “one negates the other”：表示“一個否定另一個”。對話中用來強調愛與分歧並非對立，可用於討論複雜關係：“親情和矛盾不會 one negates the other。”
- “move through life”：意為“度過一生”，比“live”更具畫面感。可仿寫：“帶著包容之心 move through life，會更從容。”
發音難點解析
影片中部分單詞的發音需要注意：“negates”的重音在第二個音節/niˈɡeɪts/，不要讀成/ˈneɡeɪts/；“dignity”的發音是/ˈdɪɡnəti/，尾音“ty”要輕讀；“disposable”的音節劃分是/disˈpəʊzəbl/，注意中間的“p”不要省略。練習時可通過shadowspeak反覆跟讀，感受 native speaker 的發音習慣，糾正自己的口音。
記住，口語練習貴在堅持。每天用 10 分鐘進行英語影子跟讀，模仿影片中的表達和語氣，你會發現自己的口語越來越自信、流暢！
影片中的語法
說話人最常用的結構，並附上影片中的原話：
| 結構 | 影片中的用法 |
|---|---|
| 現在完成時 have/has + 過去分詞 — 過去發生但與現在仍有關聯的事 | There's been · you've been · I've landed |
| 被動語態 be + 過去分詞 — 強調發生了什麼，而不是誰做的 | was asked · can be treated · being challenged |
| 定語從句 who / which + 從句 — 補充說明人或事物 | people who don · people who I · conversation, which is |
什麼是跟讀法？
跟讀法 (Shadowing) 是一種有科學依據的語言學習技巧，最初開發用於專業口譯員的培訓，並由多語言者Alexander Arguelles博士普及。這個方法簡單而強大：您在聽英語母語原聲的同時立即大聲重複——就像是一個延遲1-2秒緊跟說話者的影子。與被動聽力或語法練習不同，跟讀法強迫您的大腦和口腔肌肉同時處理並模模擬實的講話模式。研究表明它能顯著提高發音準確性，語調，節奏，連讀，聽力理解和口語流利度——使其成為雅思口語備考和真實英語交流最有效的方法之一。