쉐도잉 연습: Emma Watson Breaks Silence on JK Rowling Controversy & “Holding Two Truths” - 영상으로 영어 말하기 배우기
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Emma, something I wanted to ask you about that's, difficult and challenging because It's something you spoke about earlier as to being such a big part of your life,
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an important part of your life. But...
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recently, There's been...
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so many conversations and comments directly from JK Rowling, whether it's her saying she'd never forgive you for your views,
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or the fact that when she was asked what ruins the movies for her, she named yourself and...
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some of your co -stars and I imagine that's an extremely difficult thing when you've been a part of someone's world, when you've felt connected to their work.
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and then for it now to kind of BF4 180.
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And for someone to publicly say these things that can be quite or extremely hurtful actually, How do you think about that?
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I really don't believe that that by...
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having had that experience and holding The love and support and views that I have mean that I can't and don't
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Treasure.
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Jo.
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and the person that I...
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that I.. had personal experiences with.
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I will never believe that one negates the author.
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and that my experience of that person I don't.
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get to keep and cherish.
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I come back to our earlier thing, like I just don't think these things are either or.
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I think...
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It's my deepest wish that I hope people who don't agree with my opinion will love me,
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and I hope I can keep loving people who I don't necessarily share the same opinion with.
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And I think, That's a very, very important thing.
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way for me that I need to be able to move through life.
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I just really, I guess I,
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to circle back around, I really do believe and having conversations and that those are really important and that
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I don't know.
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I I guess where I've landed is it's not so much what we say or what we believe,
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but very often how we say it, that's really important.
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And that's really frustrating and not what you want to hear when you're really angry and upset with someone.
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um But...
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I don't know, I just see this world right now where we seem to be giving permission for this kind of like...
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throwing out of people or that people are disposable and i i just think that's I will always think that's wrong.
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I always, I just believe that, No one is...
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No one's disposable.
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and everyone as far as possible,
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whatever the conversation is, should and can be treated with at the very least.
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dignity and respect.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for challenging us and pushing us.
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Yeah, it takes a lot.
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I think that's what we're all being challenged to do is try and hold two truths at once.
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And those two truths don't have to be...
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complimentary but they They can stand at the same time.
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Yeah.
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They can honor.
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I think the thing I'm most upset about is that, a conversation, was never made possible.
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So you remain open for that dialogue?
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Yeah, and I always will.
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I believe in that.
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I believe in that completely.
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um, I believe in that completely.
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I just don't.
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Yeah, I just don't want to say anything that like continues to weaponize a really like toxic debate and conversation, which is...
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maybe why I don't Well, it is why I don't comment or like continue to comment,
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not because I don't care about her or about the issue,
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but because I just, the way that the conversation is being had feels really painful to me. And so, That's why...
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that's why that decision.
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Yeah, I really appreciate that mindset and deeply, deeply feel like.
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if people are challenged to go there themselves like it takes a lot to think
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that way and feel that way yeah but it's it's what it's what healing really requires across you know, around the world.
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And I can't imagine how many young people who look up to you
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and people who look up to you will feel the same way to recognize that that's how we engage, that's what we look for.
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It's not that we're trying to make everything pretty and perfect.
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No, no. It's that we're willing to engage in an uncomfortable conversation.
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Yes.
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Her kindness and words of encouragement and that steadfastness. That.
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And also, honestly, just as a young woman,
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to for her to have written that character created that world given me an opportunity which,
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to be honest, barely exists in the history of English literature.
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You know, Thank you.
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you How can I...
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There's just no world in which I could ever cancel her out or cancel that out. for anything.
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It has to remain true.
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It is true.
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And this is where this holding of these, I just don't know what else to do other than hold
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these two seemingly incompatible things together at the same time and just...
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hope maybe they will one day resolve or co -join themselves, and maybe accept that they never will, but that they can both still be true. And...
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I can love her.
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I can know she loved me.
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I can be grateful to her.
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I can know the things that she said are true. And...
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that can be this whole other thing.
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And my job feels like to just hold.
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just to hold all of it. But...
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The bigger thing is just...
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what she's done will never be taken away from me.
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Thanks for saying such a powerful example.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, that beautiful F.
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Scott Fitzgerald quote that, "The sign of a first -rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas at the same time,
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and still retain the ability to function." He goes on to say, "One should therefore be able to see...
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that the world is hopeless, but still be determined to make it otherwise. And it's like, that's...
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F. Scott Fitzgerald said that?
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Wow, he ran deeper than I knew.
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Wow, that's incredible.
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That's incredible.
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Yeah, it's one of my favorites.
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Wow, well done you for remembering that second part.
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Wow, you've made me like Fitzgerald a lot.
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I mean, I liked him, don't get me wrong.
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Yeah, yeah.
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To me, it's one of my favorite ideas.
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Wow, that's so good.
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Yeah, it's so good.
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That's so good.
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Yeah.
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Emma, for someone who has tried to stay out of the public eye,
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you've still been vocalist about causes you believe in -things that you stand for.
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- Yes.
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And that always seems to get-- attention and reaction.
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And so when you shared online your solidarity for Palestine, the former Israeli UN Ambassador,
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Danny Danon, called you an anti -Semite.
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And his tweet said, "10 points from Gryffindor for being an anti -Semite." What goes through your mind when you see that?
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This happened a few years ago now.
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I think what concerns me at the time was the way that that label was being used.
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And I think even now,
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I see that playing out where people don't feel like they can talk about what's happening.
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safely this duality created where we don't seem able to care about the victims of terrorism.
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and care about the genocide that's happening in Palestine at the same time.
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Both things have to be allowed to be true.
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You have to be allowed to care about 50 ,000 civilians dying, 17 ,000 of which are children. And...
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care deeply.
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about the victims of this awful terrorist attack.
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I appreciate you sharing that and...
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Yeah, it seems like that belief system you have in yes and this and together, it kind of runs through so many areas of your life.
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Personal and beyond.
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Yes, I think that's true.
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I think that's true.
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I hope that you've felt you've been able to
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share the parts of yourself and the version of yourself that you wanted to and intended to?
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I hope so.
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I feel very hot and I feel very hot and I feel a little bit like, is this room even real?
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Like, are we, is this like a Goddard play where we're like in some sort of existential room that doesn't exist anymore?
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Honestly, I feel a little bit like that, then yes, I do feel that way.
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And I, or like, I've done everything I can in a context that's still,
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I can still see cameras and lights and I know there's a person behind me, but I feel to the extent to which.
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i i can humanly do that i've shown up for myself
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and for you in a way and the invitation
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that this podcast is and the work that you do in the world i've answered that invitation so and I feel
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I feel good about that.
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핵심 어휘 & 표현
- negate: (동사) 부정하다, 상쇄하다. "One negates the other" (하나가 다른 것을 부정하다)
- disposable: (형용사) 버릴 수 있는, 소모성의. "People are disposable" (사람은 버릴 수 있는 존재가 아니다)
- hold two truths: 두 가지 진실을 동시에 받아들이다. "Hold two truths at once" (두 가지 진실을 동시에 안고 있다)
- circle back around: 다시 돌아가다. "To circle back around" (다시 돌아와서 말하자면)
- complimentary: (형용사) 보완적인. "Two truths don't have to be complimentary" (두 가지 진실은 보완적일 필요가 없다)
실습 팁: Shadowing을 잘 하는 방법
이 비디오는 말투가 부드럽지만 생각을 정리하며 말하는 느낌이 강해, shadowing 시 리듬과 강세에 주목해야 합니다. 먼저 0.75배속으로 듣고 따라하기 시작해, 문장의 흐름을 파악한 후 원래 속도로 올리세요. "I don't think these things are either or"와 같은 긴 문장은 구역별로 나눠 연습하면 쉽습니다. 특히 "dignity and respect"와 같이 강조하고 싶은 단어는 발음을 명확히 하면서도 자연스럽게 내보내는 연습을 하세요. 이를 통해 영어 쉐도잉 실력이 향상될 뿐만 아니라, IELTS 스피킹에서 필요한 논리적 말하기 능력도 키울 수 있습니다. 매일 10분씩 연습하면 1주일 만에 발음과 표현력에 눈에 띄는 변화를 느낄 수 있습니다!
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화자가 가장 많이 쓰는 문형을 영상 속 실제 표현과 함께 정리했습니다.
| 문형 | 영상 속 표현 |
|---|---|
| 현재완료 have/has + 과거분사 — 과거의 일이 지금도 관련이 있을 때 | There's been · you've been · I've landed |
| 수동태 be + 과거분사 — 누가 하는지보다 무슨 일이 일어나는지에 초점 | was asked · can be treated · being challenged |
| 관계절 who / which + 절 — 사람이나 사물에 대한 추가 정보 | people who don · people who I · conversation, which is |
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쉐도잉(Shadowing)은 원래 전문 통역사 훈련을 위해 개발된 언어 학습 기법으로, 다언어 학자인 Dr. Alexander Arguelles에 의해 대중화된 방법입니다. 핵심 원리는 간단하지만 매우 강력합니다: 원어민의 영어를 들으면서 1~2초의 짧은 지연으로 즉시 소리 내어 따라 말하는 것——마치 '그림자(shadow)'처럼 화자를 따라가는 것입니다. 문법 공부나 수동적인 청취와 달리, 쉐도잉은 뇌와 입 근육이 동시에 실시간으로 영어를 처리하고 재현하도록 훈련합니다. 연구에 따르면 이 방법은 발음 정확도, 억양, 리듬, 연음, 청취력, 말하기 유창성을 크게 향상시킵니다. IELTS 스피킹 준비와 자연스러운 영어 소통을 원하는 분들에게 특히 효과적입니다.