跟讀練習: Robert De Niro on Acting - Michael Parkinson Interview [1981] - 通過影片學習英語口語
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Alec Guinness once said on the show
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that I asked him what he had to do before he got into a character
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and he said he had to get the walk right.
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Right.
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But you actually, you research them, don't you?
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You go and live like them before you do the part.
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Well, what he says is very true for me too because some actors work cerebrally, some work physically.
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I like to work physically a lot of times it helps me feel like, I mean clothes, putting on certain clothes can give you a feeling of another character,
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which it does to actual people who are characters.
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It helps them identify with the role that they want to play in life, be a businessman or whatever they want to, you know.
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And one thing can give it to you.
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A walk can give it to you.
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Just that one walk, you can play that one thing through a whole play or a movie and it can do it.
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So I agree with that, you know.
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The point I was going to make, of course, was that...
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I do the other two.
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Yeah, I mean, the way when you did Taxi Driver, for instance, I mean, you went and actually worked as a cabbie, didn't you?
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Yeah.
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Did anybody ever recognize you then?
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Only once or twice.
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Once I had an actor who wanted me to take him to the airport and he recognized me.
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So the whole thing was blown because I couldn't, you know, all we could do was talk about acting.
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And I didn't want him to pay me.
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But he insisted on paying me.
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I said, okay, pay me.
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No tip, though.
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And the other time I just, some people got out of the cab and I looked at his eyes.
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You know, you have a plaque with your name on it.
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I turned that around so nobody could see the name, which a lot of cabbies do anyway.
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And I looked him in the eye and the guy recognized me right away and just said, you were in Godfather II, he recognized me from that. And that was it.
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Otherwise, people don't even look at you, they don't know.
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You know, it's like a waiter in a restaurant.
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They don't, you know, you don't exist in a way.
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That was kind of...
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And in New York, New York as well, you actually learned how to play the instrument, the sax, didn't you?
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Although, I mean, you needn't have done because you could have mimed it because the music wasn't yours, was it?
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No, it wasn't mine.
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It was done by George Yeo, except that I wanted to learn the fingering, which I did.
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And I learned how to play everything in the movie.
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It wasn't, the whole point was not to learn how to play the sax to be,
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you know, I could never play it as well as he did or the way Jake fights and so on.
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But the movies are an illusion and the whole point is to be able to recreate this without looking like a fool.
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I didn't want to look like I didn't know what I was doing because when I look at a movie, I see, you know, somebody with the fingering, for example, they're all out of, you know, they're all on step, out of sync.
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Playing a jazz musician.
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And I want to throw it away.
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The point is to learn to throw it away the way a person who actually does know it, they don't over-emphasize it.
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It's like an actor who overacts because they don't really know the situation and don't have the confidence to just be, you know, be straight.
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Robert, you're at the top of the tree now.
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You've got a very strongly tip for a second Academy Award.
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Yet I do know for a certain fact that you don't like the thing about the, the traditional trappings of being a film star, do you?
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In some ways, yeah.
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You don't like them?
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Well, only that...
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as far as the.. being recognized in certain situations, you like a certain amount of privacy.
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And, no, but I enjoy it, don't get me wrong.
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I mean, certain things are drag, but that's part of it.
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I have no complaints whatsoever.
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What about your next project?
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What are you going to do?
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That's called The King of Comedy, and I'm doing it with Jerry Lewis, and Marty Scorsese is going to direct it.
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It's about a guy who kidnaps someone like yourself.
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A chat show host.
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Yeah, to get on the show and do his act, which turns out to be very good.
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You've not been doing any research while we've been sitting here, have you?
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No. No, you haven't?
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No. All right.
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But all success with that, all success too with Raging Bull.
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As I say, I do hope it gets a wider audience because it is a magnificent movie.
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It's not what you call family entertainment of its kind.
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I think it's one of the best movies I've ever seen.
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Robert De Niro.
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Thank you.
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本節課學習內容
通過觀看羅伯特·德尼羅與邁克爾·帕金森的訪談影片，你將練習聽懂自然的英語對話節奏，學習演員行業的表達，並通過影子跟讀（shadowspeak）提升口語流暢度。適合想要練習“看影片學英語”和“雅思口語練習”的學習者，從真實對話中掌握實用表達。
核心詞彙與短語
- cerebrally：理智地，用腦思考地（例：有些演員用理智塑造角色）
- mimed：模仿，假唱（例：電影中可以假吹薩克斯）
- fingering：指法（例：學習薩克斯指法）
- trappings：表面裝飾，排場（例：不喜歡影星的排場）
- blown：暴露（例：被認出來後計劃泡湯）
影子跟讀練習技巧
影片中對話節奏自然，德尼羅的語速中等，帶有輕微的口語化停頓，非常適合“英語影子跟讀”。練習時可先逐句播放，暫停後模仿語氣和重音，比如他說“the movies are an illusion”時的強調感。注意捕捉“you know”這樣的口語 filler，讓你的表達更自然。對於較長的句子，如“the whole point is to be able to recreate this without looking like a fool”，可拆分短語跟讀，逐步提升流暢度。堅持每天10分鐘，既能鍛鍊聽力，又能積累雅思口語素材，讓“shadow speak”成為你的日常練習法寶！
影片中的語法
說話人最常用的結構，並附上影片中的原話：
| 結構 | 影片中的用法 |
|---|---|
| 被動語態 be + 過去分詞 — 強調發生了什麼，而不是誰做的 | was blown · was done · being recognized |
| 定語從句 who / which + 從句 — 補充說明人或事物 | people who are · person who actually · guy who kidnaps |
| 現在完成時 have/has + 過去分詞 — 過去發生但與現在仍有關聯的事 | have done · I've ever seen |
什麼是跟讀法？
跟讀法 (Shadowing) 是一種有科學依據的語言學習技巧，最初開發用於專業口譯員的培訓，並由多語言者Alexander Arguelles博士普及。這個方法簡單而強大：您在聽英語母語原聲的同時立即大聲重複——就像是一個延遲1-2秒緊跟說話者的影子。與被動聽力或語法練習不同，跟讀法強迫您的大腦和口腔肌肉同時處理並模模擬實的講話模式。研究表明它能顯著提高發音準確性，語調，節奏，連讀，聽力理解和口語流利度——使其成為雅思口語備考和真實英語交流最有效的方法之一。