쉐도잉 연습: Robert De Niro on Acting - Michael Parkinson Interview [1981] - 영상으로 영어 말하기 배우기

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Alec Guinness once said on the show
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that I asked him what he had to do before he got into a character
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and he said he had to get the walk right.
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Right.
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But you actually, you research them, don't you?
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You go and live like them before you do the part.
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Well, what he says is very true for me too because some actors work cerebrally, some work physically.
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I like to work physically a lot of times it helps me feel like, I mean clothes, putting on certain clothes can give you a feeling of another character,
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which it does to actual people who are characters.
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It helps them identify with the role that they want to play in life, be a businessman or whatever they want to, you know.
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And one thing can give it to you.
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A walk can give it to you.
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Just that one walk, you can play that one thing through a whole play or a movie and it can do it.
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So I agree with that, you know.
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The point I was going to make, of course, was that...
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I do the other two.
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Yeah, I mean, the way when you did Taxi Driver, for instance, I mean, you went and actually worked as a cabbie, didn't you?
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Yeah.
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Did anybody ever recognize you then?
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Only once or twice.
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Once I had an actor who wanted me to take him to the airport and he recognized me.
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So the whole thing was blown because I couldn't, you know, all we could do was talk about acting.
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And I didn't want him to pay me.
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But he insisted on paying me.
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I said, okay, pay me.
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No tip, though.
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And the other time I just, some people got out of the cab and I looked at his eyes.
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You know, you have a plaque with your name on it.
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I turned that around so nobody could see the name, which a lot of cabbies do anyway.
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And I looked him in the eye and the guy recognized me right away and just said, you were in Godfather II, he recognized me from that. And that was it.
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Otherwise, people don't even look at you, they don't know.
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You know, it's like a waiter in a restaurant.
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They don't, you know, you don't exist in a way.
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That was kind of...
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And in New York, New York as well, you actually learned how to play the instrument, the sax, didn't you?
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Although, I mean, you needn't have done because you could have mimed it because the music wasn't yours, was it?
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No, it wasn't mine.
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It was done by George Yeo, except that I wanted to learn the fingering, which I did.
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And I learned how to play everything in the movie.
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It wasn't, the whole point was not to learn how to play the sax to be,
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you know, I could never play it as well as he did or the way Jake fights and so on.
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But the movies are an illusion and the whole point is to be able to recreate this without looking like a fool.
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I didn't want to look like I didn't know what I was doing because when I look at a movie, I see, you know, somebody with the fingering, for example, they're all out of, you know, they're all on step, out of sync.
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Playing a jazz musician.
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And I want to throw it away.
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The point is to learn to throw it away the way a person who actually does know it, they don't over-emphasize it.
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It's like an actor who overacts because they don't really know the situation and don't have the confidence to just be, you know, be straight.
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Robert, you're at the top of the tree now.
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You've got a very strongly tip for a second Academy Award.
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Yet I do know for a certain fact that you don't like the thing about the, the traditional trappings of being a film star, do you?
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In some ways, yeah.
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You don't like them?
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Well, only that...
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as far as the.. being recognized in certain situations, you like a certain amount of privacy.
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And, no, but I enjoy it, don't get me wrong.
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I mean, certain things are drag, but that's part of it.
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I have no complaints whatsoever.
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What about your next project?
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What are you going to do?
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That's called The King of Comedy, and I'm doing it with Jerry Lewis, and Marty Scorsese is going to direct it.
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It's about a guy who kidnaps someone like yourself.
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A chat show host.
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Yeah, to get on the show and do his act, which turns out to be very good.
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You've not been doing any research while we've been sitting here, have you?
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No. No, you haven't?
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No. All right.
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But all success with that, all success too with Raging Bull.
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As I say, I do hope it gets a wider audience because it is a magnificent movie.
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It's not what you call family entertainment of its kind.
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I think it's one of the best movies I've ever seen.
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Robert De Niro.
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Thank you.

로버트 드 니로의 연기 철학과 영어 학습의 연결점

1981년 마이클 파킨슨과의 인터뷰에서 로버트 드 니로는 연기 방법에 대해 이야기합니다. 그는 "신체적 접근"이 연기에 중요하다고 강조하며, 옷을 입거나 걷는 방식으로 캐릭터를 찾는다고 말합니다. 택시 기사로 일하거나 색소폰 연주를 배우는 등 실제 경험을 통해 캐릭터를 완성하는 그의 방식은 영어 학습에도 적용할 수 있는 교훈을 담고 있습니다. 특히 영어 쉐도잉이나 영어 회화 연습에서 "실제 경험"을 통한 습득이 중요하다는 점에서 공통점을 찾을 수 있습니다.

일상 대화에 유용한 5가지 표현

  • work cerebrally: "두뇌적으로 작업하다" (연기뿐 아니라 일상에서도 "논리적으로 사고하다"는 의미로 사용)
  • blown: "망치다" (계획이 틀어지거나 비밀을 들키는 상황에서 사용, 예: "My plan was blown")
  • out of sync: "동기화되지 않다" (음악뿐 아니라 일상에서도 "어긋나다"는 의미, 예: "Our schedules are out of sync")
  • over-emphasize: "과도하게 강조하다" (의견 표현에서 자주 사용, 예: "Don't over-emphasize small mistakes")
  • trappings of: "~의 외양" (명성이나 지위의 겉모습을 나타내며, 예: "the trappings of success")

이 영상을 활용한 쉐도잉 연습 가이드

이 인터뷰는 자연스러운 속도와 생생한 발음이 특징이어서 shadow speak나 shadow speech 연습에 적합합니다. 다음 단계로 진행해 보세요:

  1. 청취 단계: 전체 영상을 2-3회 듣고 주요 주제와 흐름을 파악합니다. 드 니로의 말투와 강조하는 부분에 주의를 기울이세요.
  2. 단어/구문 추출: 위에서 소개한 표현 외에도 "identify with", "recreate this" 등 실용적인 구문을 적어둡니다.
  3. 쉐도잉 실행: 5초 간격으로 영상을 멈추고 따라합니다. 특히 "the whole point was not to..."와 같은 긴 문장은 속도와 억양을 맞추는 데 집중하세요. shadowing site를 이용해 반복 연습하면 효과적입니다.
  4. 자기 평가: 녹음한 자신의 목소리를 원본과 비교하여 발음과 리듬의 차이를 찾습니다. "overact"처럼 강세가 필요한 단어는 명확하게 발음하는지 확인하세요.

이 과정을 통해 연기의 "실제성"을 추구하는 드 니로의 방식을 영어 학습에 적용하면, 자연스러운 회화 능력을 기를 수 있습니다.

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