跟讀練習: Twenty One Pilots Interview - Tyler (part 1) - 通過影片學習英語口語

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So first, hi.

-Hi.

-How are you?

I'm good, how are you?

-I'm okay, thank you.

-Okay.

Do you recall the first record that you bought?

- First record I ever bought.

Whew.

I remember the first tape I ever bought.

Actually like a cassette tape.

Do you know what that is?

I was-- I'm old enough to remember.

OK, good.

It was by a band called DC Talk.

and I don't know if you know who they are, but it was my first piece of music I ever bought.

And I hate that stuff.

And what made you buy this specific thing?

- Thank you.

My dad was coaching basketball for a bunch of high schoolers, and I was just a little

elementary school kid and they were all listening to this band and I wanted to listen with them because

Because when you're in elementary school, nothing's cooler than a high schooler.

I bought the cassette.

And that's instilling you the Well, the desire to make music?

No, not at all actually.

I didn't even think about writing music.

So if you think about it, I bought the cassette when I was in first grade.

I didn't start playing music until I was in 11th grade, so 10 years later.

You're a self -taught musician.

What then made you pick up the piano and other instruments?

What made me pick up an instrument?

I guess...

identity issues because I didn't know who I was and I thought I was I thought it was one thing.

You know, it's like all about When you go to school and you interact with different kids, you try to figure out who you are.

What am I?

Am I the jock?

Am I the guy who's in theater?

Am I in a choir?

Do I play songs?

Do I whatever?

And I was really I was really drawn to something different than what I was in high school.

Because in high school I was a guy who did sports.

And I didn't really like that, I didn't think.

So when I first started learning how to play the piano, I was, I think I just accidentally found that.

And I liked, I liked who I was when I was doing that.

So did it help you find your identity more?

None of my family does any music or anything.

So I was just the weird music guy, you know, it was an anchor encouraged or?

No, in my family.

Yeah, they didn't really understand what was going on because like I said, none of them really are musical at all.

But they thought it was cool.

You know, it's like I set up a microphone and you know my own, you know, little studio in the basement and my mom's and

washing the dishes

and she hears her son screaming his head off down in the basement trying to record vocals

and she's got to be thinking what the heck is going on with him.

So I'm sure that they were really confused.

But now, you know, now I'm in a different country getting interviewed by you

because of the stupid songs that I wrote in my basement.

Fair enough.

Do you still have those recordings, those very first recordings?

Did you ever listen to them?

I have some of the first recordings I've ever done still on my computer

and I guard those with my life because I don't want anyone to ever hear them.

tons and tons of songs labeled Tyler Joseph because

that was my name and I figured that was what I should call the person who was writing the songs.

And now it looks ridiculous to see my name just copied over

and over and over again because of all the weird songs I wrote in the past.

Yeah, you're not going to hear those.

But something must have compelled you to keep them.

Yeah, you're right.

I don't know.

I mean, I've thrown away a lot of stuff.

And I mostly throw away ideas now more than ever because when I try to write, I get a lot out of it.

It helps me work through things.

Like in a cathartic sense?

Absolutely.

It's my word actually.

It's my favorite word.

Catharsis is...

I had that word as a vocabulary word in high school and I'll never forget it because it explained exactly um, what songwriting is for me.

And, uh, you don't need to keep the song in order to feel the effect of something like that.

So sometimes I'll throw things away, but But back then, I didn't throw stuff away as much because it was so precious.

Because they were my first songs ever.

You can always hold on to your first songs.

And they're terrible.

Well, looking back, how did you describe them as being terrible?

What then helped you develop as a musician?

Listening to other songs.

I became a student of the radio and a student of the internet.

So some specific bands maybe or?

Specifically No, I think that I took different things from from different bands.

You know, there's an aspect of my live performance that I've taken from dozens of different performers.

There's an aspect of the way that I deliver a vocal on a track

that I take from six other people who record in a studio.

There's an aspect of my songwriting that I couldn't even begin to talk about only two or three bands that

And it's not even fair for me to even talk about just two of them, you know.

So I like to not even mention it.

It's just so many.

So it's more, not certain elements, certain bands, but certain elements that exist in a lot of bands

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and a lot of music and then compile them and make it your own?

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Yeah, there's a...

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For example, something that has influenced me, there's a song, and I don't want to throw everything on to this one band,

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but there's a song by The Killers, they do a music video, too.

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And he's standing in the middle of the city in Japan, I believe, and he looks dead in the camera, and his eyes are really calm,

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but there's a moment where his hand kind of suggesting I'm trying to come across as if I'm fine,

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but really there's something wrong.

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I think of a moment like that.

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That has influenced me musically more than any song has.

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I come from a generation that had YouTube.

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I could look up anything I wanted.

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I was influenced My Chemical Romance, where They're playing in just this dusty abyss.

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They just pour it all out.

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That's how much I want to believe in my music.

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So those things I think of just different moments.

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But those bands are amazing.

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But I want to be better than them.

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It actually sounds like on your website there's this bio section where you talk about joy

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and happiness and the distinction between them.

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And this sounds very much like what you just described, the pretense of happiness, but actually it's just joy which fades away.

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Is that correct?

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Yeah.

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No, I think that what I get out of traveling around the world now, being able to play music,

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things that just translate perfectly.

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You have sexuality, you know, people are attracted to one another.

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You know, you have food, people love food.

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Everybody in the entire world likes food. And you have music.

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And really those are like the only things that there are.

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I mean, I'm sure we can come up with some other theories, but you know, you think about music and how and how it just applies to to everyone.

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Universal...

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It's very...

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Universal is a perfect word for it.

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So, so then I start, as a songwriter, I start thinking of other universal Concepts.

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And I think that one of those whether or not people really understand it is the concept of

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trying to figure out how to go about this life in a way that you

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enjoy yourself or in a way that you like who you are.

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And whether or not you like who you are is really hinged upon whether or not you have joy.

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Because I'm happy that I'm here right now talking to you.

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but then something else can happen where I'm about to go play a show

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and nothing goes right and then I'm not happy anymore.

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It's very, It's fleeting.

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it gets influenced by the things that are going on around me and if I'm controlled by just that, then I'm gonna go nuts.

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I need to find something bigger.

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I need to find something that I have joy, which I feel like kind of, it spans out over my entire life.

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If hopefully, you know, more than just a moment, hopefully a day, a month, years, where joy just is is there and I think that when you find joy, then you find peace.

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And when you find peace, then you have obviously found something to believe in.

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But it is still, I assume, then a continuous struggle to find it.

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Absolutely.

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And that's.. that goes back to...

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another universal language. And that's...

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struggling to find peace.

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And that's something I think that every single person on Earth has to figure out.

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通過這段樂隊成員的訪談對話，你將練習日常口語中的自然表達，包括回憶經歷、講述原因等場景。對話語速適中，語氣親切，非常適合用來訓練“shadow speech”（影子跟讀），提升英語口語的流暢度和語感。

核心詞彙與短語

cassette tape：盒式磁帶（對話中提到的老式音樂載體）
identity issues：身份認同問題（描述對自我定位的困惑）
self-taught musician：自學成才的音樂家
instill：灌輸（文中指培養某種慾望）
anchor：支柱（此處指音樂成為自我認同的支撐）

影子跟讀練習技巧

這段對話的特點是口語化強，常有自然的停頓和思考語氣（如“Whew”“I guess”）。練習時，建議先逐句聽熟，再進行“英語影子跟讀”：播放一句，立刻跟著重複，注意模仿說話人的語調變化和節奏。剛開始可以放慢速度，重點捕捉“what made you...?”“I didn't even think about...”等常用句式的發音。

若覺得跟不上，可使用“shadowing site”的慢速播放功能，先掌握每個單詞的發音，再逐漸提速。堅持每天練習5-10分鐘，能有效提升英語口語的反應速度和自然度。記住，影子跟讀的關鍵是“同步”，不要等句子結束再開口，儘量做到邊聽邊說，這樣才能真正鍛鍊語感。

通過這段真實的訪談對話練習，你不僅能學會實用表達，還能掌握日常交流中的語氣技巧，讓你的英語口語更地道。趕緊開始“shadowspeaks”練習吧！

影片中的語法

說話人最常用的結構，並附上影片中的原話：

結構	影片中的用法
現在完成時 have/has + 過去分詞 — 過去發生但與現在仍有關聯的事	I've ever done · I've thrown · I've taken
被動語態 be + 過去分詞 — 強調發生了什麼，而不是誰做的	was really drawn · was influenced · are attracted
定語從句 who / which + 從句 — 補充說明人或事物	guy who did · person who was · people who record

什麼是跟讀法？

跟讀法 (Shadowing) 是一種有科學依據的語言學習技巧，最初開發用於專業口譯員的培訓，並由多語言者Alexander Arguelles博士普及。這個方法簡單而強大：您在聽英語母語原聲的同時立即大聲重複——就像是一個延遲1-2秒緊跟說話者的影子。與被動聽力或語法練習不同，跟讀法強迫您的大腦和口腔肌肉同時處理並模模擬實的講話模式。研究表明它能顯著提高發音準確性，語調，節奏，連讀，聽力理解和口語流利度——使其成為雅思口語備考和真實英語交流最有效的方法之一。

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本節課學習內容

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影片中的語法

什麼是跟讀法？