跟读练习: Networking 101 from Harvard & Stanford MBA Grads - 通过视频学习英语口语

Have you ever walked into a room and been completely drawn into someone's personality?

They were like almost kind of magnetic and so charismatic

and you're like what do they have and how can I have some of that?

This episode we're going to discuss how to talk to anyone.

All right, let's dive in.

Let's do it.

Hi, I'm Jean.

And I'm Cherie.

And we're the Tiger Sisters.

Welcome to the season finale of Tiger Sisters.

Yay.

I can't believe it's been 10 episodes.

Yeah, it went by really fast.

Yeah, Yeah, we're probably really fast.

I am excited about the evolution of topics.

Yeah.

Discovered.

Yeah.

I think like some of the more recent episodes have been a lot more like fun and not just like informative.

And hopefully the audience is enjoying that.

Yeah.

I think we've covered a lot of like professional stuff in the beginning.

Yeah.

Mixed in some personal stuff.

And yeah, it's just been such an amazing season.

You've done really well.

Thank you.

I know.

Thank you my first season.

Your first season, first time podcasting.

Yeah.

And 10 kind of just like flew by.

Yeah.

And I feel like I'm also just getting more comfortable with like speaking on camera

and being more candid and just being more like vulnerable and honest.

I love that for you.

Thanks.

Okay.

So before we go any further, please like comment and subscribe if you haven't already.

we have such an amazing season two planned out and

if you haven't seen the season one episodes like they some of them I honestly will say are

so so good I'm so proud of them yeah and then also

Jean and I read every single comment yeah

that you guys leave on our YouTube videos and so

if you have any suggestions comments or questions leave them down below

and we'll respond to them

and maybe even bring them into our next mailbag in our next season

and episodes yes so speaking of mailbag mailbag okay

so the inspiration for this episode actually came from a mailbag

so jamie coleron said i would like to see the tiger sisters talk about how to talk to anyone

and how to be a better communicator for the next episode

you got it jamie you got it jamie got riard does anyone get

that reference yeah it's from full house yeah i don't know it i i dabbled you watched full house Yeah, I had the biggest crush on Uncle Jess.

Oh, my God.

Everyone did.

John Stamos.

Oh, my gosh.

I'm kidding.

It was like the definition of like 90s dreamy.

Oh, for sure.

Okay.

I think a good way to start out this topic is to focus first on like work

and career aspects of how to talk to anyone.

Yeah.

And then we can, you know, devolve.

And to whatever.

Our top is podcast my turn.

But let's start with like, what are some tips you have for talking to older people or more like senior people,

meaning like leaders in the company and like execs or maybe even people you feel intimidated by.

I feel like you're a really good person.

This is a big topic because you can talk to anyone.

And yeah, like I feel like it's one of your superpowers.

Oh, thank you.

Yeah, I think I really struggled with this when I first graduated, because when you're like a 22 year old in the workplace and you're like,

oh my god so much of my self-worth is tied to what I say and how I present myself

yeah it was really nerve-wracking but I think just getting more repetitions in

and getting more practice in talking to people who are older

than you who have more like years of experience than you

and like getting those reps in really helps

but I think honestly it's a mindset shift for me where you're just like even

if I'm talking to someone who's like five levels above me or the CEO of a company, at the end of the day, they are just a person.

Yeah.

And like, if you can connect on a human to human level, like no sucking up, no like ass kissing.

It's like, how do you connect with another person

and genuinely be curious in them and what their story is and what they care about?

Then I feel like that's where it becomes less scary.

Well, on the topic of getting your reps in and like getting exposure, I feel like one the ways you did that was through your internships

and at morgan stanley i remember you interned there

when you were in college

and one of your specific assignments was to interview all these like vps

and other sort of leaders at the company for the project

that you were working on you're making like an internal directory of information

or something like that internal resource director exactly

and as part of my internship it was my like role

my job my project to talk to a bunch of morgan stanley technologists

and vice presidents in their very like specific domain

and a lot of it is just like asking questions being curious

and then also knowing

that you yourself have something to offer i think that's like

100

a comment i see quite often on social media it's just

101

like oh my god like you know i'm in high school i'm in college

102

or like i'm a new grad like talking to these people who are much more experienced is kind of scary

103

because like what do i have to offer well but so like when you were doing it, were you like, were you nervous or were you like, oh, it's just my assignment?

104

Like I was told to do this.

105

I was definitely nervous because I wanted to make a good impression.

106

Like I didn't want to like sound like an idiot.

107

But I think before even talking to the person doing like a lot of research.

108

Okay.

109

And like every conversation, it goes well because I'm prepared.

110

Like I've done research on the person.

111

I know what their purview is.

112

And it's like i'm asking like you know level one questions

113

that i can just google i'm asking level 10 questions

114

that only this specific person in this specific domain would have the answer to yeah it's kind of funny

115

because i feel like sheree's corner was like an evolution of

116

like looking back on it now right like have you ever had

117

that no i haven't that's what you do for sheree's corner

118

so for sheree's corner sheree's other podcast

119

that um is wrapping up its last season her other podcast was wrapping up its last season

120

so she could focus fully on tiger sisters yeah she has

121

interviewed some like true like titans of industry like people who are just like i don't know like single name

122

people kind of oh yeah in a way for sure

123

but you do a so much preparation yeah yeah

124

and that's what I think people don't see is how much behind the scenes goes into these.

125

I mean, the podcast, obviously, but then also just having like one on one coffee chats with people, like never ever go into a coffee chat like cold.

126

Bare minimum is spending five minutes on their LinkedIn profile to know more about them.

127

And that's like the bare minimum, I would say, especially if you're the person who is asking for the coffee chat

128

and um you know in the like power differential is asking

129

for help yeah i feel like that's a very good practical

130

tip yeah i think one of the most powerful ways to

131

talk to anybody is to identify what your shared interests are

132

or like even better like over time like cultivate some sort of like shared interests

133

and shared experience yes together yeah like i feel like you have like

134

so much to say about that

135

when i was in school one of the big things

136

that i did and i would suggest

137

that other people do as well is like join clubs

138

or get involved in groups where you can like find a

139

common interest for example in the last few months of my

140

time at stanford i helped organize co-organize the stanford women's golf clinic

141

and it was just you know a few of us ladies where we got together

142

and we created a three-week series to bring other

143

stanford women in business to go learn golf together and we got

144

so much feedback from these ladies

145

that they were like this was amazing i've never played golf before it's

146

so safe it was just like a good environment

147

and then also like for example we had like a mini creator club at stanford

148

and it was just like common interest

149

and it's not just at school too it's at work right

150

and a lot of companies there are different sort of affinity groups

151

that you can join and even outside of

152

that like some of the things that i've done is remember like i've created this with my friends like this

153

annual retreat with my hbs girlfriends where we get together every year in newport it's about like 20 of us

154

and we basically like have this weekend of like learning

155

and growing together like reconnecting

156

and bonding yeah it's like creating you can like you can

157

actively create these experiences where you can like bond with people yeah

158

and like get to know them better well i think it

159

also starts from like a shared understanding too like we all have a common something

160

and then from there you create the shared experiences where you dive in even deeper

161

and one way we were able to do this at stanford gsb

162

that i absolutely loved was going on trips together big proponent

163

of traveling together to experience things in a new way and speaking of trips you may have seen

164

that sherry and i recently announced our trova trip to japan together

165

which we kind of put together

166

because we wanted to create this opportunity to bond with

167

and build community with all of you guys

168

so you can find more information in the description in this video

169

but basically it's going to be jean

170

and i as the hosts of this trip

171

but we will definitely have someone on the ground in japan leading us

172

and guiding us through all the different points we'll be in tokyo

173

and then also near Mount Fuji

174

and we'll have up to 15 people join us on this trip

175

and yeah wait to spend time with you guys I'm

176

so excited because I've never been to Japan before somehow

177

but Shiree has been and she's like a total I feel like expert on Japan now

178

because you've spent so much Japan on fire yeah and

179

so I'm like super excited to like get to know Japan

180

and like experience it and also like have like her expertise

181

and her personal experiences to guide us as well um

182

and i just think it's gonna be a totally magical experience

183

and i can't wait to meet you guys

184

and to like get to actually spend time together face to face as opposed to just like messaging

185

and like you know dming and like responding to comments yeah

186

so excited for this

187

and check out the link in the description for more details speaking of exposure therapy i feel like another way

188

that we had exposure therapy was just kind of the environment

189

and neighborhood that we were in growing up so sheree

190

and i grew up on long island well actually i grew up in brooklyn

191

and then i moved to long island in the middle of fourth grade i was born in brooklyn yeah

192

and then sheree lived when she was like i don't know three or four years old or something really young

193

But we grew up in what was essentially like a very white and affluent community.

194

And so I feel like,

195

yes, there were many, many times where I never felt fully comfortable because I was like one of one Asian people,

196

like in my, not just in my friend group, but like in my entire grade, maybe one of two actually.

197

But, and I always felt like I was very like defined by my ethnicity.

198

but the like flip side of that is

199

that I feel like I had to learn how to become

200

very comfortable with people who were different from me yeah um

201

yeah I have like I have girlfriends who have told me who have grown up in California

202

and they've like grown up with mostly Asian people

203

and they're like yeah I just don't feel I like to

204

this day I still just I just don't feel like fully fully comfortable talking to white people like

205

or as comfortable as I feel talking to Asian people

206

so that's something I feel like never really gets like talked about totally um I mean there's

207

so much to dig in there uh perhaps with a therapist for us

208

but like I I loved I have other higher priority I

209

know we have other things to talk about in therapy

210

but underneath the surface that is one thing

211

but yeah I mean it there's both pros and cons like Jean and I grew up in a nice neighborhood

212

even though we didn't come from that world we were very much like exposed to that world and exposed to

213

um I know the letter like behave yeah

214

that world as a crystal shows the ways of speaking the expectations some people would see

215

that as a jerk though for like oh you need a code switch

216

I mean you know me I'm like the world is the

217

world right are you going to exist in the world today

218

and how can you change the world

219

if you're not going to like be a part of it yeah and

220

if you're not going to make yourself into a person of

221

influence in the world today in order to affect change that's my perspective I agree with

222

that but I also see the other side as well

223

but I guess all of

224

that to say like it was a really good experience to be exposed to that

225

so then we can kind of yes like looking back like

226

at the time like did i enjoy being like feeling alone

227

and being bullied when i was growing up like no

228

but now yeah but now now i like see the value of having

229

been put into that situation so maybe one takeaway out of all this is

230

that that wasn't something that we like opted into

231

but it is something

232

that you can opt into like basically you can choose to put yourself into situations

233

that are outside of your comfort zone yeah in order to kind of like learn more about different cultures yeah

234

and and honestly it just goes back to like how to talk to anyone like i think

235

that is a strength if you're able to relate to many different types of people especially

236

if it's outside of the environment that you're comfortable with um

237

and i think it'll be good professionally it'll it'll be good personally it'll widen your world view

238

and i think like yeah like talking to some

239

and this very this specific story is like some of our

240

asian girlfriends are not comfortable with it like you can stay in the comfortable spot

241

or you can like lean into the discomfort

242

and like grow in different ways and i i would argue it would help your career to do so

243

yeah and one specific example i have of this is

244

or like one

245

or like one specific method you can do at work is

246

you can seek out sort of like opportunities to interact with different people especially senior people

247

if you feel nervous about connecting with

248

or you don't know how to talk to them seek out opportunities to interact with them

249

that are outside of your typical like meetings

250

or like super like straightforward interactions where you're like presenting to them

251

or like you know not the like cut and dry work interactions

252

so like what's an example um when i worked at goldman one of the things

253

that my group did every year i don't know why

254

but one of the things

255

that we did was we put together this like a holiday music video

256

and it would still have access to it no

257

but it honestly was so freaking good it was like i was like

258

so proud of it we and we like made ourselves like little awards for it too

259

but anyway it was one of the things that we did

260

and it was like day to day like we thought we day to day like the work was

261

so serious like everyone we literally thought we were doing god's work

262

because that's what lloyd had said to us lloyd blank fine yeah he was like we're doing god's work

263

and i was like yes we are because i was like 20 21

264

and i was like i'm doing god's work and everyone took everything

265

so seriously but we had this holiday video and i like volunteered

266

or was voluntold i don't remember to become one of the producers and

267

so my job was to help like write the scripts it

268

was like an snl thing to like write the scripts

269

and like help like direct and have and like make the mds and vps like

270

lip sync to all these different songs they're like it's my job you have to lip sync taylor swift yeah

271

and i would like give them these like costumes

272

and it was just like so fun

273

and it was a way to interact with each other oh i love

274

that that was not work yeah but it was work

275

but like it wasn't work no it was it was fun it was silly

276

and you're able to like bring a fun side out of the vps

277

and mds as well yes and then they get to like see me for a person too not just like a

278

robotic minions caught in the machine kind of a machine

279

but um yeah so like i would just encourage even like other like now

280

that i'm thinking about it like other little things like we had this annual um baking competition

281

and like me like you know me i'm not a baker much less a cook at all

282

but for some reason me and my my my friend slash uh fellow first

283

or second year i don't remember

284

which year this was fellow first year christine we were like let's enter the competition together

285

and we made these um sticky toffee pudding cupcakes i will never forget this and we won

286

yeah i know oh my god i know he's more shocked i would have been shocked

287

that you got a bacon kind but we like beat all of the like ea's

288

and admins who had all these like amazing like passed down recipes

289

but anyway that was just like another way for us to like

290

like did we think we were good cooks or good bakers like no

291

but we're like okay let's just do it

292

and then it's like another way to like interact with people

293

and like have connections and also like make little jokes right

294

and like be and like it also helps

295

if you're the one organizing the event as well yeah

296

because then you can bring people together and everyone can see you

297

and then come to you because you are the organizer yeah i organized a baking competition at linkedin Oh,

298

for my larger like team and like org.

299

A copier.

300

I didn't even know you won your sticky toffee cupcakes.

301

But yeah, I organized this baking competition and got like engineers on our team and like sister teams to like sign up.

302

Yeah.

303

And it really brought people together.

304

We were able to vote and everything.

305

I've actually done it twice and they were mega successes.

306

People loved it.

307

And it was a way for like us to engage it

308

was a way for me to engage with people who were not on my team

309

but on partner teams and in different roles

310

because it's super cross-team cross-functional yeah so designers came engineers came data scientists came yeah

311

and it was a way to also talk to people

312

but then also be known obviously it's for baking it wasn't for like yeah she was known

313

but it was also known for it was a way to get known you know yeah okay yeah

314

or i was like i was kind of making fun of it

315

but you're right you know it is it's a way yeah

316

it's a way for you to like put your name out there

317

that is kind of like low stakes yeah it's just like a reason for people to like know your name

318

and also like talk to you to engage a conversation in the next time i was in the micro kitchen

319

and someone who like i literally don't need to remember

320

because since you're the organizer there's like

321

so many people you're dealing with they're like oh you organized it's like oh did you partake

322

and like it was a conversation they're like i for sure partook i was like did you bake something

323

yeah no i first it was forsaken anyways um yeah those

324

are good memories memories it's funny how like i'm like oh my years at goldman sachs all i remember

325

so fun music video

326

and the baking contest yeah seriously those are probably like micro

327

snippets out of your i know it was like one percent of my time

328

but it is i mean it is yeah it's funny how

329

that's what i remember about what i remember it all right

330

what about communicating as a woman in the workplace this is

331

a juicy one do you have thoughts yeah i do um it's tough it also depends on the environment

332

that you're in and the workplace situation like especially

333

if it's a super male dominated field like finance tech um i don't know gaming like those boiling gas yeah

334

if they're super heavily male dominated it's hard sometimes as a woman to be able to have your voice heard

335

and there's like many many studies on this on like why

336

that is especially in like workplaces with that dynamic i would say

337

if you find yourself there my number one tip is to

338

find male allies oh who will be able to pull you

339

you into conversations these are the people it could be your

340

boss it could be a mentor it could just be someone who's in meetings with you

341

that you just really trust

342

and for me this was my my boss albert who we had a very close like relationship

343

and like we would be back channeling all the time

344

and then he would give me such good advice

345

that like in a meeting if it's like quiet

346

and someone like asks something he's like it's jump ball he would like coach me afterwards

347

and before it's jump ball meaning like anyone can like chime in

348

and like someone like lobbed a question in the air chime wow like you know grab the ball

349

and you know take it so

350

and then there be times where there be conversations happening in meetings

351

and like i would have like specific knowledge on an answer

352

but i'd be like too nervous to speak up

353

and then albert would be like dming me on slack be

354

like go take this you know this blah blah blah like

355

wow male ally who is not only encouraging me to take the jump ball

356

but then sometimes even putting like a layup for me anyway to like dunk it

357

and then he'd pass it over to me that's amazing

358

so it was not only him being a male ally

359

but it was also me wanting to have like that wanting

360

that exposure yeah and wanting to speak up okay

361

but then how do you how do you cultivate

362

that like let's say you didn't have albert

363

because i'm like okay he sounds like the best boss in

364

the world like not gonna lie he really was albert if you're watching this.

365

Yeah, homey for life.

366

Albert's living his best life.

367

I know he is.

368

I need to I need to text him.

369

But like, let's say, okay, Albert aside, let's say he was this like outlier.

370

Yeah.

371

What did you have other male allies that weren't your boss?

372

I do cultivate them.

373

Yeah, I would say for this one very tactical thing to do is

374

that like figure out who you admire in the workplace.

375

It could be a woman, it could be a man.

376

But if you're looking for male allies who are already in the room and already have influence, like find someone that you trust,

377

like and that can be through you have coffee with them, you vibe.

378

And then after you're in a meeting together, pull them aside immediately when the meeting ends and then ask them for feedback.

379

I'm gonna be like that sounds so scary I mean it's scary in the sense

380

that like your ego might be hurt

381

because you're like oh I'm like seeking feedback

382

but it's only for growth especially if you trust this person not even

383

that even just like I could imagine someone being like oh

384

my god like I couldn't imagine like going up to someone more senior

385

and being like like even like pulling them aside even like approaching them

386

but that's something you have to like work up to I guess it's something you have to work up to

387

but it's just like you're in a meeting together

388

and you want to get better you've already had a coffee chat with this person like they know

389

that you have an interest in growing you have like a growth mindset

390

and then like you know when everyone's packing up their laptops and then everyone's leaving when the meeting's over

391

like you can't you like you walk out of the meeting room with someone by your side

392

and you have small talk yeah so what would you say pretend it's me i'd be like hey james hey

393

you talk with me or I walk out

394

and be like hey James hello where's Sheree hello this is

395

based off of someone I know okay I'll be British um hello there I'm like hey

396

so um do you have a second perhaps for you um

397

well in this meeting um I just wanted to grab your feedback really quick

398

if you had a couple of thoughts on how I presented myself what I said and how you think I could

399

you know perhaps have more influence in the next meeting like

400

what do you think what's a thoughtful question i will most definitely give you feedback yeah

401

and and and you know if james is running off to lunch

402

or has another meeting be like no stress you don't have to answer this now but

403

if you can jot down like three thoughts like i'll catch

404

you later yeah okay as as like a manager yes thinking about it now as a manager

405

and a former like team leader i would be receptive to

406

that yeah i'd be like oh wow like what a thoughtful young person

407

or just like what a thoughtful person who like actually really

408

wants to grow i have some thoughts on it they're not fully formed

409

about communicating in the workplace as a woman yeah i think

410

the like reality of it i feel like i'm like always

411

the one that's like the cold reality of the world the

412

cold hard truth you don't know what this world is like

413

yeah like you don't you don't you don't even know you're not ready for the truth

414

but god no but like i am you know i am like half a generation older than sherry

415

so i do think the reality of it is

416

that you may not necessarily be in control of everything right

417

like as a woman like you are still existing in a broader context

418

and you exist in the context of coconut you think you

419

just fell out of a coconut exactly i think what i'm trying to say is that

420

it's helpful to also be aware of how other people perceive you

421

and it may not even be specific to you it may

422

be like you as a category right like you as a

423

25 year old woman how are you perceived you as a

424

30 year old not single woman how are you perceived like

425

you know how there's been a lot of discussion about the

426

idea of the manic pixie dream girl i feel like there's a version of it

427

that carries over to the workplace as well where like

428

when you are a certain age

429

and you act a certain way you're kind of viewed as

430

more of like the ingenue like you're like new to the world like you're new you're young enough

431

that people don't perceive you as a threat yeah they don't

432

take you seriously right you're you're you're fresh out of school

433

great you have all this fresh energy good job yes right

434

so that's like kind of but also it's to your benefit right

435

because if you go up

436

and ask someone senior like oh can you give me feedback they will be fully honest with you

437

and be like trying to help you yeah as opposed to

438

when you reach a certain point when you're no longer like viewed as the ingenue

439

and um you are like a little bit more senior in your career like those same tactics may

440

or may not go over the same way

441

because then you kind of start to be viewed as like competition

442

and yeah totally so it's kind of like you get some beginners like leeway yeah

443

so that's just something that i've seen that i myself

444

and i and my like fellow millennial women i feel like we've like been working our way through

445

and i don't really have an answer to that

446

but it's just something that i can be like watch out for like be aware of it and like understand

447

how you're being perceived by the people you interact with totally i think i mean echoes it's

448

especially we're talking on the context of women in the workplace

449

but i think like men as well um especially maybe minority

450

men as well like like are placed in some sort of

451

like stereotype yeah um i know one of my friends who

452

worked in venture capital he was one of like the youngest

453

partners at a vc firm amongst like other people who are probably like 20 to 35 years older than him

454

and then he had gotten married

455

but then he like very specifically like wanted to get married

456

and have a ring yeah seem older than he actually was

457

and he was very mature and like but like in

458

that way it's like understanding your reputation and how do you manage it

459

and then perhaps surprise people if you know they have a stereotype of you

460

and you completely break out of that in a good way

461

yeah and i do feel like that sort of benefit

462

that men get in the workplace of like being married

463

and like having kids like just think about your own perception

464

of like a man with kids like you're automatically like oh my god he's a great he's a good person

465

because he's a father he's responsible like he's responsible he is

466

you know like thoughtful etc versus like women don't get that

467

same sort of benefit of the doubt or like immediate positive shift yeah in um perception

468

I mean if anything it could be like the other way oh yeah true true that's

469

so unfair yeah so I I don't know

470

that wasn't like a fully fully formed thought

471

but it's like something there's something there yeah I mean

472

so I guess like the main takeaway is

473

that like be aware of what how you may be perceived for whether it's fair or not like in the workplace

474

and many times perception can be reality what you weren't you weren't ready for

475

that truth bomb yeah so what do you think about communication

476

when it comes to dating

477

and flirting um thoughts thoughts i think okay i think even the kind of like precursor to

478

explicit communication is like your energy because vibes yeah

479

because i feel like something why are you laughing communicating through

480

energy well more energy more energy more energy more passion more passion more passion um no

481

but i just feel like for myself and my own experience I feel like in the last like few months, like something has shifted in my energy.

482

Whereas like I'll be going back to the same exact places and situations.

483

But now all of a sudden,

484

like people are like approaching me and like people are like coming up to me and like speaking to me, you know.

485

Oh, I love that.

486

Yeah.

487

You're like more, you're more open.

488

I think so.

489

You're like radiating, you're magnetic.

490

Yeah or maybe I'm just not wearing an engagement ring anymore

491

that might be it that that might be part of it

492

but no I I don't know I think it's not it's not just

493

that I think it's more like my energy has shifted yeah

494

and also it's like both my energy that I'm putting out

495

but then also like my energy within myself whereas now I

496

am like more like aware of the world around me I'm like almost like seeing the world through like a different perspective.

497

I love that.

498

I think it's energy that you put out and then also the energy to receive as well.

499

So that like if people come up to you and talk to you, you're not going to be closed off.

500

Yeah.

501

Yeah.

502

And I feel like for me, I'm like very much like sometimes I'm in like a state of like mind or energy where I'm like, nobody better talk to me.

503

Like I'm not here to like, I do not wish to be precise.

504

I do not.

505

Yes, exactly seriously really yeah whereas like you're different like you're much

506

and like perceive me everyone you're more like open all the time it's about your energy

507

so maybe it like kind of like starts there yeah i

508

think you can also perceive people's energy too before they even

509

like open up their mouths like you could yeah before they

510

speak you're like oh do you have like a positive like

511

are you smiling are your eyes glistening with them for the

512

future in the world do you glimmer yeah do Do you shimmer?

513

Like, I really believe in that that energy and you can feel it in someone, even if you're just like interacting with them briefly.

514

Yeah.

515

But then what about, okay, energy aside.

516

What are your thoughts?

517

You guys already know if you've seen the dating episode, I've said it once and I'll say it again.

518

What?

519

What'd you say?

520

I love the banter.

521

Oh, okay.

522

I love, yeah, me too think so in terms of communicating with like someone romantically

523

or dating like I think it's really attractive obviously

524

when people are intelligent and I saw this from a like a TikTok video

525

so if you guys know who it's from like definitely at them

526

but they're just like women in general this was a gross generalization

527

but I agreed with it women are at least myself like really are attracted to people who are intelligent

528

and one way to demonstrate intelligence is through

529

like jokes and being funny and

530

if you can like engage in like the witty humor the banter the banter then um like i find

531

that super attractive and it draws me in as well totally like it demonstrates

532

that it actually it like demonstrates several things because it demonstrates

533

that you're smart enough to like pick up on

534

and like make jokes in the moment but also

535

that you have enough um eq yeah it'll work to like deliver it in a way that's like funny

536

and you're like oh this kind of joke will connect with this person yeah

537

and like it's gonna land they have the context for this

538

like blah blah blah yeah it's actually quite complicated to be

539

funny i think um in a good way yeah it's hard to be funny it's hard to be funny

540

because then you have to like know the other person

541

and what they find funny and understand what context they have for the jokes that you're going to make.

542

Is it a cultural reference, a historic reference?

543

Like, you know.

544

So, yeah, I think being funny can someone feign humor or being funny it's hard

545

no i don't think you can i think usually a joke will like fall flat

546

and people can immediately be like

547

that was awkward yeah i mean also like you like leading with humor like

548

if you are leading with jokes you can really like understand

549

a person like pretty quickly like you could be like oh like what kind of references are they picking up

550

or not picking up like what is their response

551

to my like jokes and my banter yeah i think it also can

552

if you're not like a naturally funny person i think two things

553

that can help one watching like comedy shows

554

and like picking up on other comedians

555

and figuring out what do you find funny um

556

and then the second thing is also self-deprecating jokes like

557

when you're making jokes you never want to like punch down on someone you know

558

if someone that's what they say for like stand-up comedian you want to like make fun of yourself

559

and you can also punch up as well yeah

560

or like you first you can like make fun of yourself

561

and then you can make fun of someone else yeah i

562

also i like being teased i think being teased um it

563

can be cute what about the role of like gossip

564

or tea like where does

565

that fall in how to talk to anyone i think it's

566

an important part like i think people who believe they're like self-righteous

567

and like oh i don't gossip i don't you know especially

568

like harmless gossip i don't gossip i don't gossip i think people who like claim to be self-righteous in

569

that sense you're just kidding yourself

570

and you're honestly hurting yourself for making connections with people i think hurtful harmful gossip like that's a different thing

571

but if it's like harmless gossip

572

and like just a little bit of tea sipping can be

573

fine i think like specifically outside of friend groups like on

574

the topic of how to talk to anyone like a little

575

bit of harmless gossip is a great way to like break

576

through like three layers of like small talk to then like

577

have like kind of this like inside joke between the two of you inside jokes also are

578

so powerful i was like listening to something the other day

579

on tick tock where someone was like oh like one of the

580

one of the best hacks to like befriend someone it's to like make an inside joke with them right away

581

and i was like oh yeah i freaking love

582

that like i love when people do that with me

583

and i also enjoy doing that with other people because then you have this like

584

little like harmless little secret and there's like this little inside joke and it's like so like

585

fun yeah um yeah

586

but it's kind of like i feel like there's like kind of like a spectrum between like harmless gossip

587

and inside joke it's like can sometimes be like one in the same

588

so maybe it's a spectrum it's like a and then diagram

589

or something like that

590

but like i don't know one example is like i was at the gym

591

and then i was um talking to one of the managers

592

and i was like oh like i heard this happen with like the cfo

593

which is like someone

594

that i have no idea like i've never met this man

595

like you know this guy like probably barely knows him

596

and it was just

597

and he just all of a sudden he like you know broke the fourth wall

598

or like just like broke the actor who's like oh my

599

god like yes like this is what happened this is blah blah blah

600

and it's like totally harmless yeah but it was it

601

or it was great to like just like connect about something and then now like every every time we see each other, we're like, teehee.

602

Yeah.

603

Yeah.

604

It's kind of, it builds relationships.

605

Yeah.

606

Yeah.

607

It's the, yeah, the power of normal gossip.

608

Next, we're going to talk about ways to invite people to talk to you without having to talk to them

609

or without having to initiate.

610

One of the great things that Jean and I share is our love for fashion.

611

And in this specific instance, fashion and statement pieces as a conversation starter.

612

So if, have you ever seen a person who's just wearing something so freaking cool, it's a cool blouse, a cool pair of jeans or shoes, and you're like, oh my God, that's amazing.

613

Sometimes when I see these people walking down the street, I will stop them.

614

I'll be like, you look fantastic.

615

And like, where did you get that from?

616

And so I think if you can incorporate that into your life and like, there are things that you really enjoy that are like specialty

617

or statement pieces it really does invite people in to ask you about it yeah I love a statement piece

618

so like especially if you enjoy fashion like I think that's something to lean into

619

because that's like a way that you can express yourself

620

and other people can perceive you and like sort of like understand who you are without you even

621

opening your mouth right like without even saying anything you're sort

622

of like having a conversation with them through the way

623

that you choose to like dress especially if you have something

624

that is more of a statement or like more like noticeable or more like cute so that's like

625

that's kind of like informed sort of the way I shop

626

because I just like also like I love like statement pieces like I love like a whimsical like bag

627

or like a really like unexpected detail or something like that.

628

Well, that's also why you do a lot of shopping like abroad as well, because then like one, it commemorates your trip as like a souvenir.

629

But then like there's a story behind like what you're wearing.

630

And when people ask you about it, oh my God, my biggest flex, and I am so annoying about this, like and I know it, is that when I buy things in thrift stores or consignment shops abroad,

631

I am incredibly insufferable.

632

And for good reason, because it's so cool.

633

Yeah.

634

That I got this like scarf from, it was like it's like a van gogh print on a scarf from a thrift store in australia in sydney

635

and i've gotten so many compliments on it

636

because i wear the scarf as a top

637

and i'm like i tie it around on different things

638

and people like oh my god i love your top like where's it from

639

and i'm like yeah it's from and it's also like one of a kind

640

because it's from a thrift store i mean i'm sure you can find it online

641

but who's gonna find it it's like maybe you are like who knows who makes it even yeah

642

and then also like your vintage leather long jacket yeah um paris yeah

643

but down paris thrift store in paris at 17 also like

644

for me like i also like to buy like special purchases

645

um abroad because then it's like a way to cover commemorate the trip

646

and then also it's something that people can ask you about

647

and then you can tell them the story behind it

648

and then perhaps they'll purchase it or just like have a conversation

649

or even if they don't ask you it's not like they'll like be like where did you get

650

that they'll just be like oh like i like your bag you'll be like oh my god thanks

651

so much like i got this like on a trip um last year in lisbon

652

or something like that or like i got this in barcelona

653

and and then like that's like you like responding to them with like a little piece of information

654

and then that's how you kind of like get into yes conversation

655

and then they're like oh my god like i've always told you in barcelona

656

or like i was just there last year like blah blah

657

blah yes yeah it's such a good conversation starter yeah um especially

658

if there's a story behind it that you care about um they can sense

659

that excitement that you bring into the conversation i think also part of it is

660

that like i genuinely love fashion and have like a true

661

passion for it so like passion for fashion yeah

662

so like it whenever people do ask me about it like i'm really excited to talk about the topic

663

so like maybe that's something that like either

664

if it's not like natural to you you can like try it out like little by little

665

or maybe there's like other ways to convey like things

666

that you're passionate about in like what you wear

667

or like how you present yourself like

668

if you love golf like you could be i don't know

669

where like whatever you go golfing like buy some of the memorabilia

670

and wear it and then they'll ask you about it yes like where

671

if you go to band and dunes like get a little sweater that's like band and dunes like Totally.

672

Or like one of my friends, my classmates who goes to golf courses around the world, he always gets a little hat.

673

Yeah.

674

That sent the golf course name.

675

I love buying hats.

676

Right.

677

Kind of for this reason.

678

Yeah.

679

Because then you can wear it and then you can wear it.

680

You can wear it the next time you play golf in like a normal place.

681

And then it'll strike up conversation with people, especially if you're already on the golf course where other people have similar interests to you.

682

And you're like, oh my God, you went there.

683

I went there.

684

Or I've always wanted to go there what like recommendations do you have yes

685

or even like a lot of times people

686

if they go to like a hotel

687

or something they'll like buy a hat from the hotel really yeah is

688

that kind of cheesy well it depends on like the hotel like people will do it for like amangani

689

or like amangiri or people do that for like rest like the restaurant

690

and not restaurants but like dive bars you know that's a good yes yeah like something

691

that you like associate yourself with or like an experience

692

that you had

693

and then like other people i don't know it's like social signaling yeah right like it's like

694

when i went to the appre at chamois

695

and palisades tahoe you better believe i got a chamois hat

696

and i wear it around you know

697

if you know you know chamois chamois the other part of the memorabilia

698

that you pick up at different places is that it also kind of

699

as a way of signal signaling to people what sort of groups you belong to

700

or like what sort of um common interests you may have

701

so like why do people buy so much gear from their undergrad

702

or from their grad schools like why does sheree have like 50 pieces of stanford clothing it's

703

because one she's obsessed with stanford i love stanford

704

and also she has tons of stuff from barnard

705

and columbia too yeah

706

so she's just like obviously she just like loves it she's passionate about it

707

but like also it's like subconsciously a way of being like hey like this is part of my identity

708

and then you can see it right away when you see me

709

and that's also a conversation starter too especially if you're an alum

710

or you know you live in palo alto

711

or you're in from the surrounding area like i'm

712

when i'm wearing like a stanford sweatshirt like people can see it and

713

if they bring it up i'm like obviously i'm going to

714

talk to you about it yeah you're like you want to I'm a Samurai.

715

Me too.

716

Me too.

717

What year?

718

Oh my God.

719

I was Samurai.

720

Well, I'm not a lot of now.

721

Or if you go to a concert, that's why people love buying concert admirabilia.

722

Yeah.

723

Because it shows you the music that you're into and then you actually went to the concert.

724

Yeah.

725

So yeah, there's lots of ways, even if you're not like obsessed with fashion, like us to kind of like express who you are without words and then have people come to you.

726

How to talk to anyone.

727

Yeah, start a conversation with no words.

728

How to start a conversation without saying a single word.

729

It's the energy.

730

Thank you guys so much for tuning in to this episode of Tiger Sisters.

731

Hope this was helpful.

732

There's some topics that, you know, could be discussed further.

733

They're open discussion.

734

Yes.

735

And so please remember to like, comment, and subscribe.

736

And we would so appreciate it if you could share this video with someone who might find it helpful.

737

We'll see you next time.

738

Thanks.

739

Bye.

740

Thank you.

📺 同频道

Everything we learned in 29 minutes at Harvard Business School (part 1)

Business EnglishUniversity StudentsWorking Adults

Why Success Still Feels Empty | Jane Marie Chen, Founder of Embrace

Business EnglishUniversity StudentsWorking Adults

The #1 Small Talk Rule That Makes People Like You (Stanford Communication Professor)

Business EnglishInterview EnglishDaily Conversation

✨ 推荐视频

765 句

How to Talk to Anyone in English with Confidence with These Small Talk Phrases

Business EnglishDaily ConversationUniversity Students

78 句

2397 - Experiences Part 1: How to Talk About Your Life

Business EnglishDaily ConversationHigh School Students

210 句

The Power of English for Personal Growth | English Podcast | Simple English Podcast

Business EnglishDaily ConversationUniversity Students

395 句

catch-up & QA

Business EnglishDaily ConversationUniversity Students

104 句

Shadowing English Speaking Practice | Speak Fluently & Naturally | 10-Day English Speaking Challenge

Business EnglishDaily ConversationHigh School Students

776 句

MICHELLE & CRAIG Answer Your Questions & Talk Housewives, Relationships, & More | IMO

Business EnglishDaily ConversationUniversity Students

385 句

Real Life English Conversations to Sound More Natural | Podcast to Learn English!

Business EnglishDaily ConversationHigh School Students

583 句

本课的词汇与口语要点

这节 B1 级别的口语课以视频“Networking 101 from Harvard & Stanford MBA Grads”为素材。这段视频共有 740 个句子、8471 个单词可供跟读。讲话部分时长为 45:19。说话人语速较快，每分钟约 187 个词，会出现较多连读和弱读。 86% 的单词属于英语最常用的 3,000 词，其余的词建议在练习前先学一下。

视频中的重点词汇

视频中最难的 15 个单词，附发音和释义：

单词	发音	释义
gossip 名词	/ˈɡɑsɪp/	閒話 /闲话, 山海經 /山海经
perceive 动词	/pɚˈsiv/	察覺 /察觉, 感知
workplace 名词	/ˈwɝkˌpleɪs/	工作場所 /工作场所, 職場 /职场
harmless 形容词	/ˈhɑɹmləs/	無害 /无害
feedback 名词	/ˈfiːdˌbæk/	反饋 /反馈, 反應 /反应
bake 动词	/beɪk/	烤, 烘
interact 动词	/ɪn.təˈɹækt/	互動 /互动
tiger 名词	/ˈtaɪɡə/	лохў, хў
banter 动词	/ˈbæntə/	談笑 /谈笑
chamois 名词	/ʃæmˈwɑ/	臆羚, 岩羚羊
thrift 名词	/ˈθɹɪft/	節儉 /节俭, 節約 /节约
thoughtful 形容词	/ˈθɔːtfəl/	周到
podcast 名词	/ˈpɑdˌkæst/	播客
demonstrate 动词	/ˈdɛm.ənˌstɹeɪt/	论证
cultivate 动词	/ˈkʌltɪveɪt/	耕種 /耕种, 種植 /种植

视频中出现的短语动词

单词	释义
figure out 动词	弄清楚
grow up 动词	長大 /长大
pick up 动词	拾取, 撿 /捡
put together 动词	拼合, 組合 /组合
check out 动词	退房
go up 动词	上昇 /上升, 上去
look back 动词	回顧 /回顾
sign up 动词	報名 /报名, 註冊 /注册

值得反复跟读的句子

视频中简短而完整的句子，可以直接用在日常对话里：

All right, let's dive in.
I feel like you're a really good person.
What did you have other male allies that weren't your boss?
You're like more, you're more open.
You're like radiating, you're magnetic.

视频中的语法

说话人最常用的结构，并附上视频中的原话：

结构	视频中的用法
现在完成时 have/has + 过去分词 — 过去发生但与现在仍有关联的事	have been · we've covered · You've done
被动语态 be + 过去分词 — 强调发生了什么，而不是谁做的	was told · was born · be exposed
定语从句 who / which + 从句 — 补充说明人或事物	people who are · person who is · people who were
用 “might / may” 表可能 might/may + 动词 — 有可能但不确定的事	may have · might be · may not necessarily

需要注意的发音

说话人用了 222 次缩略和弱读形式，例如 you're, I'm, don't。请按听到的简短形式来说。

“th” 音: thrift /ˈθɹɪft/, thoughtful /ˈθɔːtfəl/
“sh” 和 “zh” 音: chamois /ʃæmˈwɑ/, perception /pɚˈsɛpʃ(ə)n/, ingenue /ˈɑnʒənu/, sherry /ˈʃɛɹi/, passionate /ˈpæʃənɪt/
长单词——注意重音位置: communicate /kəˈmjuːnɪkeɪt/, memorabilia /ˌmɛm(ə)ɹəˈbɪlɪə/, stereotype /ˈstɛ.ɹi.əˌtaɪp/, organizer /ˈɔɹɡənaɪzɚ/, genuinely /ˈd͡ʒɛn.ju.ɪn.li/

中文母语者容易读错的音：

/v/ — 不要读成 /w/，上齿轻触下唇: perceive /pɚˈsiv/, cultivate /ˈkʌltɪveɪt/, dive /daɪv/, microwave /ˈmaɪkɹoʊˌweɪv/, invite /ɪnˈvaɪt/
词尾辅音 — 要读清楚，后面不要加元音: gossip /ˈɡɑsɪp/, perceive /pɚˈsiv/, workplace /ˈwɝkˌpleɪs/, harmless /ˈhɑɹmləs/, feedback /ˈfiːdˌbæk/
/r/ 和 /l/ 的区别: harmless /ˈhɑɹmləs/, memorabilia /ˌmɛm(ə)ɹəˈbɪlɪə/, vulnerable /ˈvʌln(ə)ɹəbl̩/, briefly /ˈbɹiːfli/, relate /ɹɪˈleɪt/

如何用这段视频练习

先完整听一遍视频，不要开口，记下不认识的单词。
先用 0.75 倍速逐句跟读，熟练之后再回到正常速度。
录下自己的声音并与原声对比，特别注意 gossip, perceive, workplace 这类单词。

什么是跟读法？

跟读法 (Shadowing) 是一种有科学依据的语言学习技巧，最初开发用于专业口译员的培训，并由多语言者Alexander Arguelles博士普及。这个方法简单而强大：您在听英语母语原声的同时立即大声重复——就像是一个延迟1-2秒紧跟说话者的影子。与被动听力或语法练习不同，跟读法强迫您的大脑和口腔肌肉同时处理并模仿真实的讲话模式。研究表明它能显着提高发音准确性，语调，节奏，连读，听力理解和口语流利度——使其成为雅思口语备考和真实英语交流最有效的方法之一。

影子跟读法: 阅读完整分步指南 →

跟读练习: Networking 101 from Harvard & Stanford MBA Grads - 通过视频学习英语口语

Everything we learned in 29 minutes at Harvard Business School (part 1)

Why Success Still Feels Empty | Jane Marie Chen, Founder of Embrace

The #1 Small Talk Rule That Makes People Like You (Stanford Communication Professor)

How to Talk to Anyone in English with Confidence with These Small Talk Phrases

2397 - Experiences Part 1: How to Talk About Your Life

The Power of English for Personal Growth | English Podcast | Simple English Podcast

catch-up & QA

Shadowing English Speaking Practice | Speak Fluently & Naturally | 10-Day English Speaking Challenge

MICHELLE & CRAIG Answer Your Questions & Talk Housewives, Relationships, & More | IMO

Real Life English Conversations to Sound More Natural | Podcast to Learn English!

Episode 531: Shallow feedback and my coworker is a huge sloperator

Making space for everyone in the classroom with Sarah-Ann Elizabeth Brown

English Podcast For Learning English | Podcast in English for Beginners |

Go Deeper with Us on Substack

The Art of Charm Podcast 716 - 8 Tips for Compelling Conversation

本课的词汇与口语要点

视频中的重点词汇

视频中出现的短语动词

值得反复跟读的句子

视频中的语法

需要注意的发音

如何用这段视频练习

什么是跟读法？