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You're gonna figure it out in your dreams.
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Good night, Owen Thiel.
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Oh my god.
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Oh my god.
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What's crazy about this, I always try to do this crazy intro and pretend like no one can see you.
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But yeah, get off the bed and come in.
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This is truly insane for me.
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I have someone I am so deeply a fan of.
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I was so deeply a fan of your music.
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And then you popped up in one of the most popular, most well -written, beautifully written television shows.
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You acted so well in it.
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We have Lisa on the fucking podcast.
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What?
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That is crazy.
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I can't believe you're here.
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Hi.
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Thank you for having me.
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I was saying when she walked in, I was like, that's the prettiest woman I've ever seen in my life.
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No, no, no. You truly are.
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It's like I drew you.
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Thank you.
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You're a work of art, my love.
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You really are.
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Oh, my God.
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I have so many questions for you.
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First of all, I just have to say, we just watched your music video.
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Yes.
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Exclusive.
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I got the exclusive.
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None of y 'all did.
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None of y 'all bitches out there did. So, so sorry.
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Very exclusive.
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Yeah, really.
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Not even my mom.
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No. Seriously.
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You're lying.
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No. Why?
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I'm being honest.
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Why don't you show your mom?
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No, I want to surprise her.
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Oh, I get it.
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Yeah, because she loves to, like, spill the tea.
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Oh, God.
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She goes on live.
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To her friends.
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Oh, she tells her friends.
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She's so proud of me.
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She's so proud of you.
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So I'm like, okay, I'm not going to show you until it's out.
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You're scared it's going to be leaked.
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Just in case.
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Wait, where does she live? In Thailand.
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I can't believe you grew up in Thailand.
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We have to talk about this.
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But first, we have to ultimately get into this music video.
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It's out.
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So everyone knows what I just saw.
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But the amount of looks, the amount of locations,
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the amount of dance moves i could not i could not believe you did that
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how the hell did
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that take a week two weeks to film three days actually okay that's crazy
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so many looks and so many wigs i know a blue wig i know i love
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that come on i love
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that i kind of look great no you look amazing
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you look amazing would you ever do a blue would you ever dye your hair blue oh no
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i don't think
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so i think i'm done with dying hairs like yeah
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it's really bad for your hair also i know i need i need a rest
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so yeah you need yeah yeah oh my god as you can see i'm like your hair looks amazing
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it looks great wait so okay where do you film
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that uh in thailand all in thailand it's beautiful every single location is like well thought
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and yeah it's iconic locations it's stunning
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i mean the one where you're a little bit in the water oh yeah where's
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that wait a little bit of the water yeah you're in water you're like feet are in water
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and and people are like throwing water oh yeah do you know what i'm talking about you're like
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there's 900 locations you're like i don't know
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that one um okay uh yeah it was like in the like museum
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it's like it's like a it's like a water place like in front of the museum
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and like a fountain like a little i feel like the director he just like he's
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so genius he just make everything's like cool how did you meet
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this direct did you just like his work i love his work
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i've been follow his work um for a amount of time
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and for this music video like i was talking to my
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team like who's gonna be the right director yeah of course this sawadika
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because it's not it's like a little sassy
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but i don't want to be too like not a sexy not a
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that kind of vibe
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i want more cool yes yes more like a little like well like yeah
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it's the song also is like i'm
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that bitch on your tv yeah literally literally yeah so um
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which you literally are you look whoa well and that's lyricism
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and that is lyricism when it actually i go wow that's actually true you are
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that bitch on my tv so yeah i thought of him
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and then luckily that um actually he was like i'm off this whole month
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but girl vacation i know lisa calls you answer please so
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and we made it happen yeah where do you live in thailand still oh i my parents still in thailand
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so i go back and forth a lot and as you know
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because of the white lotus i was there for like six months back it must have been
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so nice that must have been amazing every day in the morning i have fresh coconut water
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pad thai yum so good you were so good in
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that television show thank you you were amazing you were you know what's
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so funny is i obviously listen to your music but and obviously you are So famous.
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But it is so amazing when I don't feel like I'm watching Lisa.
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Like that's what acting is.
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That's an actress.
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And you completely slipped into this role.
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I believed it.
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I was like, she works at the hotel.
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I totally believed it.
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It was really, it was amazing.
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Thank you.
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You were wonderful.
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How'd you get that?
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How'd you book that?
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How did Mike White just call you?
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No, I auditioned for it.
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Okay, I feel better about my career.
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When Lisa has to audition.
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I auditioned for it.
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I feel better.
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Like I film myself a self tape.
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No, you did a self tape.
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I'm being.
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Yes.
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Me and my manager, Alice.
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She's the one who like back and forth with my all the lines and like, yeah.
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And in L .A., I film it in L .A.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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I was so bad.
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I watched it recently.
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No. I rewatched it.
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I was like, oh, my God, that self tape.
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Like, I don't want anyone to see it.
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My self tape for a show that I'm on called Adults.
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I watched the original self -tape and it truly, I actually think they should fire me.
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Truly, I'm like, did anyone see this?
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It's horrible.
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I think because you're finding the role, you don't know what they want.
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It's so much easier to be with the director or the creators and like talk to them about the role.
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And it's so hard to just like read lines and be like, what do you, what do you, what do you, and just imagination, do whatever.
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But I think that's what they want.
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Right, of course.
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Right. Of course.
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So I was like, yeah, same, it's so bad.
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And even though like I have to fly in and like audition in front of Mike White again,
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I'm like, oh, I think I was like shaking.
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I said something wrong.
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Like my line is like not the right one.
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That always happens.
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That always happens.
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I remember during an audition that I had this this guy.
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It was supposed to be like an intimate scene with me and this guy.
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And he is supposed it was a callback and he was supposed to touch my face.
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And he touched my face.
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And I literally was like, I said out loud i was like god
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you're kind of hot out loud i didn't mean to say it it just came out
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and then i was like oops sorry sorry can't help i was like literally sorry
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that slipped out but of course it's you're it's awkward it's awkward to be in front of someone and and
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or i'm sure it was more than just him i'm sure it was i was basically like him and
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and i told my mom to like oh can you wait outside like i don't want
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you to be in this room totally totally oh that's
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so sweet are you sure i'm like yes that is so sweet
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and then you booked the role yes the day after um the one of the team called me
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and congrats me
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and they said like oh mike white really want to congrats
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you by himself like let's do a meeting like assume
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and i'm like oh my gosh that's emotional that's crazy
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i cried did you know what the white lotus was like i guess
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it had yes there have been multiple seasons yes by this point
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but it just your season had such weight it was
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so fun it was amazing I know I know like I didn't want to read
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the whole script yeah of course like I was just trying to read only mine
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because I don't want to like
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because you don't want to know I want to watch with everyone else did you at the same yes
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I didn't know how it ends
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no you're lying no I'm being serious
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so what yeah I told I told my co
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I told my co -actor um gaitok the one who played gaitok tame amazing don't don't tell me anything
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but he kept like say something and i'm like so mad at him every single time i'm like team stop
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you're ruining it for me i know oh my god
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so you didn't know what happened so you had to watch with everyone else
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and you actually watched it every week yes yes
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so i mean no so because because i have to check everything before it goes totally oh so you watch the screeners.
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So we have like a little special link and then I was like You're shocked.
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Yeah.
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Except the last one.
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I think the last one we didn't watch it.
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The finale.
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Yeah, the finale.
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I think we didn't watch from the special link.
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And you watched it with everyone.
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Wow.
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That's actually amazing.
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See, I'm if I don't know, if I had the scripts to the White Lotus I would.
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Oh my god, I'd be devouring it.
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I'd be literally posting it.
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I'd be going on live.
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I'd be like, you guys
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Because you never know what happened.
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I cannot believe you had the self -restraint to sit there with Mike White's writing and just be like,
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I want to be present and find out what happens with everyone else.
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It probably actually helped your role, though, to not know what happened.
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Yeah, because I don't really know what
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Sky Talk going, like they're doing.
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Exactly.
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The whole thing is that you don't know.
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Whoa.
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That's crazy.
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So where are you in acting now?
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Do you want to keep acting?
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I found it fun, actually.
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You're amazing.
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But my main job is singing, performing.
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Pop star.
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You're a pop star.
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You're a pop star.
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So this year, I finished one movie called Taigo.
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It's like an action action movie you running you running and a car is chasing you
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that's amazing i have chills i actually have chills that is
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so cool i just finished that and where'd you film
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that um some in korea and some in in jakarta wow great great okay
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so you just finished that wrapped that done with that and now you're on to music yes focusing on the music
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Do not stop, girl.
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Let's go back to the beginning.
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Okay.
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So you're in Thailand.
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Yeah.
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Imagine this.
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Okay.
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You're in Thailand.
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It's gorgeous.
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Coconut water and pad thai.
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Cute.
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So you grew up in Thailand.
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You always had a dream of being a singer.
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Yes.
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Actually, no. No. I want to be a dance teacher at first.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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That's cool.
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I want to be a dance teacher.
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I want to have a job in Disneyland wearing, like, what do you call it?
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A costume. And, yeah.
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And you want it to be, like, the people that – what is it called?
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Like a show.
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Yeah, like a character actor.
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Yeah.
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What is it called?
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A character actor.
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Yeah, a character actor.
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Me not knowing anything.
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A character actor.
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So you want it to be, like, name a princess or something and do that?
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Yeah, I want to dance in Disneyland.
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That's, like, one of my dreams like be a dance teacher before
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i become a dance teacher
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i want to work in disneyland by the way the happiest place on earth speak on
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that i love disneyland i love disneyland no no no no no
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so you and me at disneyland no it's that's powerful you
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and me at disneyland that's powerful i love disneyland
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which character do you love i like all characters but i like i'm a princess girly so i Which princess?
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I like Ariel.
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Uh -huh.
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Under the sea.
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Under the sea.
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I like Princess Jasmine.
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Stunning.
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Gorgeous.
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I love a whole new world.
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Well, I can't sing, but you can.
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Okay, yeah.
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That's my vibe, princesses.
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Who do you like?
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I love Olaf.
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I love warm hugs.
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You're the cutest person on earth.
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that came to you so fast for me I had to be like huh and you were like I like Olaf
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so immediate I love Olaf I love
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Frozen I love
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Frozen it's amazing let it go would you be in Frozen if they came to you and they're like
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Frozen 3 wait is that out
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Frozen 4 is that out not yet not yet they're like
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Frozen 4 you're the lead would you be like stop
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don't do this to me don't make me like imagine manifest you have to manifest okay
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but you you must be good at manifestation
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because look at your career look at your life you must you must have
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dreamt of something and and
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and gotten it like what were you as a kid
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you obviously wanted to be a music i mean a dance teacher
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and work in disneyland two iconic things
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but like what were you sitting you were sitting
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there in school being like this is what i like were
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you were you were you taught how to sing were you taught dance um
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so i think when i was little i think my mom saw me like love to dance
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and i never like shy to dance when like you know like
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when parents like oh show me your dance moves like i
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i can do it without like being like oh no you know
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so i think she sent me to a dance class and then
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I started to do a dance crew
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and then I go like a troupe like a dance crew and then I think my teacher
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I don't know sees something in me and he's just like I think you should go try to learn singing
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and I'm like no I want to be a dance teacher you're like no I'm going to Disneyland
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I'm going to Disneyland
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and then yeah and then i started to learn singing
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and then i got a um in the audition for for yg wow at 14 at 14 at 13
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and then i flew to korea when i was 14 yeah whoa what was
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that like were you scared oh no it was so it's crazy
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that i was like not even like worried
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or anything i was like i want to go i'm going oh
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you were you were a boss i'm like yeah you were
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that on my tv i'm telling my mom
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and dad like i'm going like um i'm not i don't want to be regret
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if i don't go yeah of course you know like i want to go
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and then i think they saw like how you know like
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how passion passionate i was
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so i think they just like sure i'll send you there wow yeah and then was the audition process so
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long uh it's not that long but it's like
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so many people i think it's like 4 000 like two two
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or four thousand something people wow like signed for that
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and then they didn't call me for like a month
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so i was like oh i was like maybe i didn't get it yeah yeah
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because there's no nothing and then but luckily i got a call back whoa
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and they asked me like how fast you can fly out to Korea.
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How fast?
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And I'm like, oh, let me finish.
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Let me finish my school first.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like a few more months.
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Maybe one or two and then I'll fly.
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Oh my God.
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And then you went on a callback.
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How many people were in the callback?
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I think it's only me.
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I was the one.
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Oh my God.
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Out of 4 ,000 people, they narrowed it down to you. To me.
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I have chills.
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Me too.
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I'm like, that's crazy.
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I thought other one is going to get it, but like, no, it's only, yeah.
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Wow.
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Okay, so that was the beginning of everything. Of everything.
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That was the start.
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And then what happened?
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Then you moved to Korea?
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Yes, when I was 14.
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And I spent five years of practicing to become Blackpink.
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Yeah.
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That is crazy.
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Just that sentence, to become Blackpink.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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And then when did everyone else join the group?
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I think Jenny was there first.
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At first, like, I love Jenny.
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I love Jenny.
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I love my girls.
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Seriously.
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I love them.
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I love you all.
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You guys are amazing.
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I know.
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We just have, like, a 10 -year anniversary.
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I just saw that, actually.
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Yeah.
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I was at your 2019, was it 2019 Coachella show?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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2019, it's 2019, right?
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Not 18, 2019.
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2019. The first K -pop group to ever be at Coachella, to ever headline Coachella stage yes so sick yeah wow that's
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so amazing that you guys are all
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so close still yes you guys a pillow fell how dare you sure it's not ghosts i'm
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so scared of ghosts are you yes i'm terrified of ghosts it's like
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but it's it's never been a thing in my life
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it's a recent new thing what recently yes you just found
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that you you can you heard something
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so i was away i was at my friend's house in new york upstate new york
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and i was laying in bed we were both it was her family's house
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so i was laying in bed
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and i like love this friend i trust this friend i like this friend is cozy
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and warm and
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so i was like oh my god of course i'll come to your childhood home like that's
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so kind that you're inviting me so i'm sitting there
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and i'm like something's weird here something's off
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and then as i'm laying i'm hearing noises creaks and noises
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but they don't sound like they're they're they're not like old house noises they're like in like i'm like ah
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so then two days later i left i was supposed to say a week
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but i left i said i was sick well
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now now by the way now she finds out now yeah literally no i'm
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so i love you i love you you're the best
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i did lie to you i said i was sick i couldn't be there no i'm
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so afraid of that
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but you just hear like voices i just heard like like sounds like sounds oh it's
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so scary but but maybe they're good ghosts good spirits yeah yeah
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or do you believe in spirits
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i do i do i think every single of my home korea here everywhere to have ghosts really yeah
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but i mean like we're good friends you
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and the ghost yeah like we have like all boundaries like hey
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you this is my space that's your space like as long as we don't touch
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you know each other's space like we're good like you can stay here
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it's fine wait i need to start doing that i should have done
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that with the fucking ghost in your friend's house yes i should have done
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that instead i was like get away don't look at me um okay wait let's go back yeah
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so you were you were 14
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when this all started then jenny joined the group oh no
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so at first there's nothing as like settle down like oh
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you are in the group no it's more like everybody's training together
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but when i first got there jenny already there
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and then come along with um jisoo rose
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and then yeah four of us isn't it crazy
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that you guys are all actually killing it like you all are separately doing unbelievably well it's
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because you all singularly have a voice
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and then together you also have an unbelievable voice it's very cool
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it is very cool um will we see you guys together again if the timing is right
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Because right now we're like focusing on our solo.
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And then, yeah.
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We just finished our tour earlier this year.
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So I think we need a little like, you know, a solo time.
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Yeah.
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And then if everything's like, you know, you do everything that you want and you achieve everything that you want.
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And then, yeah. Of course.
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Like, they're my family.
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They're my like best friends.
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Yeah.
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Do you guys have a group chat?
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Yes.
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We just texted like last night.
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I was like, where are you guys?
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Add me to that group job.
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I'll think about it.
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Add me, add me.
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I want to be a fly on the wall.
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That's so fun that you guys are just like, it's like growing up.
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You guys grew up together.
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Yes, basically.
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Because I was 14, everyone is like, what, 13, 14, 15.
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It's like, wow.
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Yeah, we're like same age almost.
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And we're family.
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I see them more than I see my family.
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Well, yeah, you work with them.
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It's every day.
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Yeah, it's every day.
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Like we stay at the same dorm for how long?
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Like six years, six, seven years.
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That's crazy.
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That's like, imagine if college was six years.
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I could not take it.
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I dropped out of college after two weeks.
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You're like, I can't do that.
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I could not do it.
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That's amazing.
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And it's like a conservatory.
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It's nonstop dancing and singing.
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And what happened when you realized that you guys were probably the biggest K -pop group in the world?
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You weren't just big in Korea.
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You were big everywhere.
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How was that?
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Still can't believe that.
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I mean, it's amazing.
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Did it feel real?
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Did it feel fake?
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No, not really but i think the 2019 coachella was the like the turning point for every single of us
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that like oh wow like we're like they
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so many people love our music that's how
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when we start to like oh this is real yeah like before
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that we're just like okay okay we're doing great
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but like we don't see the amount but you know but like
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when we were there on stage 20 uh 2019 it's just like oh no the crowd was unbelievable
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and you're in la this isn't this
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and everyone knew all the lyrics to every song yeah
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and the dances
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and everything even though it's korean in korean
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they like they still like yeah it's really amazing wow okay i love blackpink i love blackpink i love blackpink
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so kind of piggybacking off of this was there a moment when you're like oh my god i'm famous
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oh my god oh my god i'm famous
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i don't know was there ever like i mean you're lisa like it's pretty crazy like you're what
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you're it was there ever a moment where you're like wow like i'm doing
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this i can do this for my life
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i can do this for my life yeah like like like this is it like i know what i mean
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i mean i love performing i love being on stage yeah yeah
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so that's like my thing yeah like i don't think i can stop doing this yeah of course of course
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so i never thought of like oh my god i can do this forever
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but it's just like it's this is this is just
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it yeah you're like i'm this is what i would do even
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if there was one person in the audience oh yeah i would have like a private show for my mom
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do you ever do that maybe when i was little
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when i was like trying to like prepare for my audition
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or something oh that's
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so cute i would i would love to be the one person in the room
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i would love i would literally love to be that um okay
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so you didn't speak any korean at the time no
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so you had to you learned all korean in korea how many years did
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that take um i think like one uh two to three
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years two to three years to learn a whole language yeah
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but like i feel like jisoo helped helped me a lot
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oh yeah like she she didn't go back to her place
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when like every weekend usually like all the girls like go back to their parents you know
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but jesus stayed she's like i'm gonna hang out with you lisa i'm like sure
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so we that's so cute we just like we just go on a subway go somewhere
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and then we just talk even though my language is not
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that great yeah we communicate through pictures i was like i was showing me
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when i was little before i come to korea
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and she's showing hers as well
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so it's like it's a cute like you know god
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that is so cute and then how did
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so then eventually you just caught on yeah
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because like did you have a teacher other than yeah yeah
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i have teacher i have a lesson every single day two
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hours every day wow non -stop for like two three years and then i add on There's Jisoo.
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Of course, of course, of course.
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Yeah.
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She was your teacher.
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She's my teacher, yeah.
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Did you love Korea?
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I love Korea.
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I've never been.
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What?
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Have you ever been to Thailand?
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No. You'll take me?
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Oh, yes.
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I'll be your guide.
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You can stay at my place.
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You're being in Thailand herself.
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You can stay at my place.
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I need to go to Thailand.
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I hear it's the most beautiful place.
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I need to go.
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Do you love Thai food?
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It's the only thing I order on Uber Eats.
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Okay, great.
532
I love Thai food.
533
I love Thai food.
534
I'm biased, but I feel like Korean and Thai food, I can eat every day.
535
Is Korean barbecue?
536
Yes.
537
Yum.
538
Yes.
539
So, you just had your 10th anniversary.
540
Yes.
541
It was on August 8th?
542
Yes.
543
Wow.
544
I know everything.
545
10 years with Blackpink.
546
That's crazy.
547
I know.
548
That is so monumental.
549
What is monumental?
550
Like huge, like a milestone, like huge.
551
How did that feel for you?
552
It's a mixed feeling, to be honest.
553
But I was just so happy that we can celebrate with everyone, with the fans as well.
554
Yeah, we did like a little, like a short live before we go to the actual party.
555
I mean, what do you call meeting?
556
A party.
557
We're celebrating.
558
It's a party.
559
Yeah, of course.
560
And then, yeah, we like, I don't know.
561
It's like, it's so sweet.
562
It's like, it's like very memorable time.
563
Did, wait, going back, did you guys live alone?
564
Or did, like when you were in your dorms, did you guys live alone or with a roommate?
565
Or all together?
566
We're all together.
567
In the same apartment.
568
Sometimes I like, I change.
569
My first roommate, I think it was Jisoo.
570
And then, and then Rosie.
571
and then we're alone and then you get alone yeah that's nice that's really okay
572
so then after blackpink you were like i i want to do solo i want to go solo what was
573
that scary a little bit
574
because like i have to be the one who like you know talk to the talk to the uh
575
the company and everything yeah but that's what i really want to do
576
and they respect that oh they were okay yeah they respect
577
that and everything so turns out really well
578
and yeah i started loud my own company my own label
579
so yeah that's amazing
580
and then everyone else was like i'm gonna do this too
581
i'm gonna i think everybody has the same thought yeah it's the same dream yeah
582
so wow hey so do you like eating food do you like riding in cars and not having to walk
583
Do you guys like saving money?
584
No?
585
Okay, turn this off.
586
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587
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588
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589
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Love you
610
when you're making your music are you how many people are in the room oh depends
611
sometimes it's like i don't know like four five wow songwriters
612
songwriters producer are you ever like do you produce a little i not produce
613
but i'm like more like a idea like i give them like idea
614
or like when I go in I'm like oh today I feel like I'm a soft girl
615
I want to talk about something like cute
616
like you know what I mean I was like okay like today I'm so angry at something and I'm like
617
yes yes yes I want to talk about this so okay the music video I just watched yeah
618
how did that come about what was that you walked into the studio that day and you were like
619
I want everyone to know I'm that bitch what did you say that's like my everyday
620
that's like my everyday everyday attitude no i'm kidding um actually this song is like during session and everything
621
um uh the company uh have me listen to this music oh
622
and i was like
623
because we were talking we're trying to find like you know the right the right song
624
and single yeah
625
and we were like okay like why don't we just you know reconnect to who i really am you know
626
and i'm like sure because i spend a lot of time in thailand these days yeah
627
and i feel like it's
628
so great to be back home being surrounded with your you know your family
629
and your best friends from since you're little you know it's like it's
630
so nice and then i i feel like i found myself again like i'm back to my root
631
so that was like that was it
632
and then they have me listen to this like you know we have like
633
so many ideas that we want to put like a a tie instrument into the song
634
or something like that we have so many stuff
635
so you know you just gonna have to wait but
636
but this song um they have me listen
637
i was like oh my god i love this wow i love this so much
638
and then i was like okay like let's talk about how
639
the second verse should be you know like i was like i contact to the writer
640
that i like i used to work with and then
641
so many ideas and then i was like oh i want to switch this i want to switch
642
that like we should keep this we should change that's producing
643
you're a producer that's a that's no i was just more like an idea
644
i don't know i get it i get it
645
but that's that's awesome i think this this is a good start for me oh i love
646
that that's a good start
647
so i'm like oh i i don't have to do the whole thing from the scratch by myself
648
because i feel like i have a good team i have a good people surrounded me
649
and definitely yeah i feel like i'm now i'm more confident little by little
650
you know give it a little idea here
651
and there it's like it's fun for me it's a fun progress yeah
652
it's amazing first of all
653
i didn't ask this before what does swatika mean swatika yeah
654
means hello in thai oh yeah wait swatika do you remember uh mook
655
you said yes welcome to the white lotus in thailand i have chills of course okay that's amazing okay
656
so you that's why you're back to your your your roots yes that's why oh i love
657
that it's really exciting yeah because you were with blackpink for
658
so long now is it like oh my god i'm on stage alone oh
659
that hits me like last year at coachella i think
660
i was like oh my god like i i did coachella with blackpink twice with them twice
661
and now it's like it's my solo stage
662
i'm like how i'm gonna survive this 50 minutes alone on stage like it's scary it's really scary it is
663
but you're born for it i was like manifest
664
i was like i can do this i can do this
665
i can you're born for it do you say something to yourself before
666
you go on stage do you say do you have like a mantra not really
667
but i'm just like pray before i go up
668
i'm just like okay like yeah okay like i'm here to like perform
669
you know it's like it's a little like simple thing
670
but definitely but that's make me like you know trying to calm make me calm
671
and then yeah it's like i don't want to pressure myself too much before
672
i go on stage you can't you can't
673
because then you put too much expectations on it yeah
674
and then you're always you're always gonna fall short of expectations always always
675
so it's like we we can do mistakes
676
it's fine like you know as long as we're we're having a good time
677
they're having a good time with me
678
then then it's all good from the outside i don't feel like you ever make a mistake
679
but do you make a mistake on stage every single time really what is it like a dance movie yeah
680
it's like what i did this for like forever
681
but like it's just wrong i don't know why maybe I watch too much TikTok
682
about and it's like it's a different side you know what I mean?
683
Usually I do like this but when you watch TikTok it's like Oh!
684
It's mirrored I got confused
685
It's mirrored Yeah I'm like damn
686
That's hilarious I need to stop yeah watch myself What?
687
I watch myself all the time
688
Can't stop No I'm obsessed I'm obsessed I'm obsessed with watching myself
689
and I name search on Twitter Do you know what that is?
690
What is?
691
Like you look yourself up on Twitter.
692
Uh -huh.
693
I do that for myself.
694
I do that too.
695
But it's never nice about me.
696
It's nice about you.
697
That's never nice about me as well.
698
Really?
699
Yeah.
700
Oh.
701
Oh.
702
You're so positive.
703
You're like, yeah.
704
Yeah, I'm the same.
705
So you're used to hate.
706
Are you used to getting hate?
707
I don't want to say used to getting hate, but it's just, this is natural.
708
This is human.
709
Yeah.
710
We love, we hate.
711
It's fine.
712
Wow, that's actually a great outlook.
713
It's okay.
714
It's okay.
715
I get so in my head about it.
716
And I start wanting to change things about myself.
717
But I guess...
718
I shouldn't.
719
It's their opinion.
720
I mean, it's really hard to make everyone loves you.
721
You know?
722
Totally.
723
It's like you can't control that.
724
And it's fine, I think.
725
I used to try to fix myself the way they want me to be.
726
Same.
727
The way they want to see me.
728
Same.
729
But I feel like that's not who I am.
730
And if they can't deal with it, it's not my fault.
731
wow that's amazing no no that is trying to like make
732
and anyone like feel bad
733
but like no feel bad sometimes you can't control you know something of course it's it's their opinion
734
and it shouldn't affect you it used to affect me same
735
but i think that's not what you know one day
736
i was like i woke up it's like it's okay
737
it's okay also people talking about you oh thank you you know what i mean yeah i'm
738
so popular yeah exactly exactly thank you for you know missing
739
me yes exactly exactly are you like always on your phone um yes it's a bad habit though yeah
740
so what are you on tiktok i'm just instagram scrolling
741
it's just scrolling yeah i like reels i love reels yeah
742
it's random i know reels is more random than tiktok tiktok is too curated for me
743
i like random videos like oh my god a cat
744
that is jumping and then randomly you're like oh
745
that man's buying a gorgeous new camera like there's just different there's it's it's variety variety yeah exactly i like
746
that i love i love i love uh ai doing making a cat dance
747
i'm like love wow they have a great move
748
i'm like okay to your music no to like a random like i don't know i love
749
that i love that oh my god that's
750
so funny you just watching cats dancing yeah wait
751
that makes me believe in life
752
i just believe in life again um what is your what
753
is your favorite other than instagram what's your favorite app on your phone do you facetime a lot
754
sometimes i do like just call my mom
755
because she's taking care of my um pets and stuff
756
so what kind of pets do i have four cats no wait what what's wrong with me
757
i have five cats i was like girl is one is one new is one new
758
No, no, no. Oh, you just forgot.
759
Jet lagged.
760
Sorry.
761
I have five cats, two dogs.
762
Oh, my God.
763
Yes, I have two dogs.
764
You have a lot of animals.
765
I know.
766
What are their names?
767
Let me.
768
Alice is like, oh, my God.
769
So, Leo, Luca, Lily, Louie, Lego, Love, Lambo.
770
Wait, all L's?
771
Yeah.
772
Oh my god.
773
Lisa and Lisa.
774
Oh, that's so cute.
775
I love that.
776
What kind of dogs?
777
I have Doberman and Samoyed.
778
What is?
779
Oh.
780
The white fluffy one.
781
Oh my god.
782
Love.
783
Samoyed and Doberman.
784
The big one.
785
The big one.
786
And they're in Thailand?
787
No, actually Doberman is here.
788
He's waiting in the car.
789
I put on a dog mode.
790
that's
791
so cute he's waiting for his mommy to like to come back yeah oh my god
792
i have to meet him like is he nice yeah i guess i guess
793
so yes he's super nice he's super nice he's like very cute calm he's a he's a good boy
794
i love that i love that so what did you do with all your animals
795
when you were shooting uh they were all just there with you yeah wow my mom what do you do
796
when you're on when you go on tour my mom's taking care oh that's
797
so sweet that's so sweet do you like touring i love touring really actually yeah wow i have
798
so much fun during tour tour
799
so like what's on your rider do you know what a rider is what is
800
that rider like when you go into a room yeah like
801
when you go into like your dressing room uh -huh what do you ask for like what's on the table
802
when you walk in tequila chocolate milk like what chocolate milk yeah
803
and tequila yeah not together though not together i got nervous lisa no
804
i got nervous i got genuinely nervous oh my god why chocolate milk
805
i love chocolate milk
806
i love chocolate milk the one in the glass bottle have you had it no
807
i'm taking you i'm taking you to air one oh the one in the glass bottle is thick
808
and delicious oh I like creamy oh okay super creamy
809
and delicious I love okay okay I would love to try you need to try it okay
810
so you're like Erwan girly huh I'm loving Erwan don't
811
you I love it's the best it's like 10 minutes away from my house it's the best yeah
812
so I'm like I go every day to get coconut water
813
What kind of coconut water?
814
Fresh?
815
It's like in a bottle.
816
Yeah.
817
I love coconut.
818
The harvest harmless harvest.
819
I think so, yeah.
820
It's a pink one.
821
Yeah.
822
Of course, the best. So good.
823
Is that what?
824
So what is your guilty pleasure?
825
My guilty pleasure?
826
Yeah.
827
I don't know.
828
Chocolate.
829
Like, no, I love chocolate so much.
830
Like, I need, like, to, what do you say?
831
I have to have a bunch of big bag of chocolate right beside my bed.
832
During a night, I woke up, I'm like, I'm hungry.
833
Chocolate.
834
In the morning, I'm like, okay, I want chocolate before I brush my teeth.
835
I'm obsessed.
836
What kind of chocolate?
837
It's like milk chocolate.
838
You don't like dark?
839
Not really.
840
Because it's too bitter?
841
I'm like I'm like a baby I'm like I love something sweet
842
So do I Not bitter no
843
So you have a bag of chocolate next to your bed
844
Oh my god that's an In Your Dreams exclusive Lisa has a bag of chocolate next to her bed
845
That's iconic I love that
846
Oh my god
847
It's so embarrassing
848
Are you kidding go next to my bed right now
849
It's chocolate No I postmated a milkshake last night
850
post -mating a milkshake or Uber eating a milkshake
851
that's not a smart idea it melts it melts? it came melted it was just water it was just watery
852
so yummy though it was still amazing okay
853
so you still like it loved I drank it all I drank it all
854
you have a sweet tooth then yes if you had to have a last meal what would it be? like
855
someone put food in front of you this is the last time you can eat go
856
pad thai
857
and chocolate milk
858
and chocolate milk it's a great combination actually are you serious no
859
i was like i was actually kind of buying it yeah it's like you just have pad thai first
860
and then and then milk chocolate milk as a dessert yum
861
that actually sounds great yeah
862
and coconut water oh yeah maybe we start with coconut water have pad thai
863
and then end up with chocolate milk sounds amazing yeah sounds amazing such a great meal
864
i might have it for later yeah do you cook no you know what i don't cook
865
but the way you said no no i don't know it was like this i don't do
866
that i'm a princess i need someone to cook i get
867
it i am too no i am too i don't cook
868
if i cooked the house would burn down i'm just being honest no
869
i've left the stove on don't do it no
870
but i i can't cook because i'm so bad at it
871
but i'm trying to cook while doing a live with talking to my fans you've done
872
that yeah it's like i think
873
i have like several like menu doing with the fans what are you cooking
874
sometimes i bake like brownies i did brownies once
875
and then i do like um so papaya salad oh
876
and then i did what what else like like korean food as well like a soup oh i love
877
that okay i have to ask who are your who were your idols growing up
878
so many oh my god i don't know justin bieber 100 rihanna bitch better have my money
879
wait didn't blackpink do something with
880
that song am i being crazy oh yeah well like we did like a dance like a dance cover
881
you did right yeah yeah it's like a it's like one of the video
882
that like before we announced that we're gonna be debut like it's like yeah i remember
883
that yeah oh what i literally remember
884
that that's not in my notes that's just from memory what yes you knew us like
885
girl i have been a fan i have i'm a fangirl
886
i'm genuinely a fangirl you're scared you're like okay this is weird now you knew me before i was okay
887
so justin bieber rihanna you were who else
888
i don't listen to everyone um ariana oh my god
889
i love her the most amazing voice ever yes oh i love her uh i don't know
890
so many have you gone to any of their concerts recently did you go to ariana's concert no no
891
i didn't have a chance to go that's
892
so good i'm watching like online i'm like no i know i know
893
when she flies i think i watched her at coachella oh 2019 i guess
894
so good she was so good so good she was amazing i also heard you have a vagans vegas residency yes
895
november 13 14 27 28
896
whoa i'm coming can i come yes okay
897
so i'm of course please do you like vegas have you
898
been to vegas uh yeah a few times wait are you are you a party girl
899
or like a homebody i'm like both
900
i'm like i'm like sometimes i'm like uh today
901
i want to be like you know stay in my bed
902
i'm like a little introvert like you know like totally totally
903
you're like i don't want to go out today
904
sometimes like hello like we should go out yeah yeah
905
k -town k -town do you feel like in vegas like
906
when you're working are you like no no i'm in my bubble
907
or are you like yeah i'll have some fun after a concert yeah totally really yeah that's
908
so fun okay why not like i finished work
909
and now i did a great job at work
910
and now like it's my time to like celebrate with you know with the dancer with the team
911
and everyone okay so i'm gonna come yeah
912
and then we'll go out after vegas okay lisa takes vegas i love
913
that i love that oh my god that's so fun
914
so how do you feel if you're out
915
and there's paparazzi how do you feel about paparazzi um
916
i don't mind it i'm okay with it actually i'm used to it now yeah of course yeah like um but
917
when i first like you know come to LA
918
it's like you know it's like everywhere's paparazzi
919
I'm like oh my god like in front of the restaurant like you know
920
it's like everywhere I was like a little like oh wow it's like overwarmed a little bit
921
but now it's like try to get used to it I don't prefer
922
but no of course but I'm like it's okay you're fine with it yes
923
but not in front of my house no that's a breach of privacy yeah
924
but not no one does that yet only like few crazy people
925
that like trying to like oh they don't throw like roses to me that's scary and terrifying
926
and nobody should ever nobody should ever come near a house like it doesn't matter how famous you are or
927
if you think you know this person that's crazy yeah yeah
928
it's a little too much yeah of course yeah of course
929
so you have a documentary premiering at TIFF yes first of all
930
I love Toronto have you been to Toronto ah yes for shows like few times
931
i love teron well i never like get a chance to like go around
932
and have fun it's just more like um show back to the hotel fly out
933
so well that's your life yeah i i want to i want to explore more
934
this time i have places for you oh
935
there's the best do you like vintage shopping i love
936
i love digging like stuff i love like seriously you can like throw me in like a random shop
937
and then i'm like just stay there trying to find treasure like treasures i love
938
that i love going into a store
939
you know what my favorite is going into a vintage store everyone's like ew
940
it's gross in here i'm like i'm gonna find the best piece you're digging yeah the best shirt yeah
941
that fits perfectly love i love like a jacket like a leather jacket like the old one the best i'm
942
so happy every single time that i found like something really fits me i'm like or even though it doesn't fit me.
943
It's like, it's okay.
944
I can make it happen.
945
I was like, I can make this happen.
946
Tailoring.
947
Tailoring, babe.
948
What's your personal style?
949
Like, what would you wear, like, on a day that wasn't today?
950
Like, if you were going to Erewhon in the morning to get your coconut water.
951
I wear my pajamas.
952
Really?
953
Yeah.
954
Full pajamas?
955
Yeah, seriously.
956
No, like sweats or like pajama set?
957
Like pajama set.
958
And with a hoodie on top.
959
Do people come up to you for a picture?
960
um the the worker inside erwan is like oh hi lisa and you're like in my pajamas again
961
wait that's iconic
962
that you just wear pajamas out
963
it's like 10 minutes away from my house like you know it's like totally i mean i love
964
that like why not do you put on makeup
965
when you go out
966
or no no sometimes maybe just lipsticks maybe just like a little tinted lip balm
967
or something wow fresh face gorgeous in pajamas no like lisa
968
that is cool that's cool
969
because i think like no one's gonna recognize me in the morning everyone recognizes no i don't think
970
so i think except
971
that uh lady in front of the air one selling smoothie
972
yeah love the smoothies the hailey bieber oh my god
973
and the coconut cloud yeah yum oh i would drink
974
that right now if i had it I would guzzle
975
that I mean I mean I would guzzle it um okay
976
so you I know your solo artist
977
that you were obsessed with Rihanna Justin were you interested in
978
any girl groups did you listen to any girl group yeah I listened to Blackpink
979
actually I'm so I'm so sorry it's like Blackpink love like love um I listened to XG Oh, I don't know what that is.
980
Yeah, I watched their Coachella stage.
981
It's really good.
982
I have to watch that.
983
I love them so much.
984
I have a little chit -chat backstage.
985
I'm like, oh my god, they're so cute.
986
Who would you be starstruck by? Who?
987
Yeah.
988
If you were face -to -face with someone, who would it be that you'd be like, Oh my god.
989
It's Bill Skarsgård.
990
Bill Skarsgård?
991
You know, it's so embarrassing.
992
I was, I don't know why.
993
I'm such a crazy, like, fangirl.
994
I was like, at the Met Gala, you know, everybody's being like, very nice, cheek, like.
995
Well, of course.
996
Koi.
997
Oh my God, like, yeah.
998
I saw him walking out, and I was like, I need to say hi.
999
Like, I need to say hi.
1000
I was like I was like I was running hi I'm Lisa
1001
and he's like he's so nice he's like oh hi nice to meet you okay bye
1002
and that was it
1003
that was your interaction with Bill Skarsgard hi I'm Lisa oh hi okay bye
1004
and then you guys leave yeah what what makes you so I think you're gonna think that oh oh my god, this girl's so weird.
1005
Why should I come up to me and still say hi and gone?
1006
Wait, what?
1007
It's like, that's all I need.
1008
It's just like, I just want to say hi.
1009
Wait, what makes you, what do you know him from?
1010
His movies?
1011
Yes, movie, It.
1012
It's crazy.
1013
It.
1014
It's crazy.
1015
I'm actually dead.
1016
I'm actually dead.
1017
So do you like horror?
1018
Not really, but I love his acting in that role.
1019
It's just, wow, it's just crazy how he can come up with
1020
that with that wow i love that yeah and i'm like wow
1021
and then i i did like a vanity fair cover
1022
and i met him there i met him
1023
and i was like oh my god oh my god
1024
and then this was oh this was during white lotus time um before white yeah
1025
it was the hollywood issue yeah and i met him there I was like, oh my God.
1026
And then that day I didn't say hi.
1027
I was too shy.
1028
You were starstruck.
1029
Yeah.
1030
But at the Met Gala, I was like, okay, Lisa, today you're not going to be a shy girl.
1031
Well, you both were at the Met Gala.
1032
Call up to him and say hi.
1033
It's really iconic.
1034
And I slept.
1035
I was like, bye.
1036
Hi, bye.
1037
That is really iconic.
1038
Bill, if you're watching this, we're fans.
1039
Bill Skarsgård, we're fans.
1040
I love that.
1041
Okay.
1042
Well, now I need to know actually because you brought up it.
1043
What TV shows are you watching?
1044
The White Lotus.
1045
Duh.
1046
You're like my season of The White Lotus.
1047
I'm like, ate that.
1048
These days?
1049
I don't know.
1050
What did I watch?
1051
House of Dragons?
1052
I don't know.
1053
Oh, House of Dragons.
1054
Great.
1055
Yeah.
1056
Great answer.
1057
I haven't watched it.
1058
But I haven't watched
1059
Game of Thrones. Have you?
1060
Yes, I did.
1061
The whole season.
1062
The eight.
1063
They have eight seasons.
1064
You loved it.
1065
During COVID, I watched the whole eight seasons during COVID.
1066
I'm like We have nothing to do with COVID I'm just like
1067
Okay I'm gonna watch
1068
Game of Thrones This is it
1069
It's about time
1070
For me to watch I mean I should watch it too
1071
Everyone loves it
1072
It's like everyone's
1073
Favorite Television show
1074
It's crazy But I It takes
1075
You have to really
1076
Get into it I know
1077
It takes time
1078
You have to really pay attention
1079
Yeah It takes time I don't have that I don't have the The brain
1080
Space for that
1081
Because you're so busy
1082
Too busy Yeah right Lisa everywhere no I'm totally okay I'm
1083
so not busy I'm constant I'm sitting here I'm literally just sitting here waiting I'm waiting
1084
and then I get a call I go Lisa's coming on um okay
1085
I ask everyone this on my podcast what is it what is your big dream oh
1086
I think like a few years ago um my team asked me
1087
that and I said I want to do a Super Bowl
1088
a halftime show wow yeah I I don't know how long it's gonna take
1089
but no that's next year babe that's here manifest next year a Super Bowl halftime show
1090
Lady Gaga's was amazing Rihanna's was amazing oh my god oh my god I was like
1091
it's crazy oh yours would eat i don't know i'm like that's that's like my big dream
1092
that's around the corner that's like not a big dream
1093
that's just like a that's like a fun little dream to have now
1094
that you're lisa you know what i mean that's cute and fun wow i love that
1095
that's a great dream thank you and i see it happening you know
1096
when you see like when someone says a dream
1097
that you can see happening it's so exciting
1098
because i'm like you yes you told me that
1099
and i'm gonna watch that happen oh so fun
1100
so exciting thank you okay so now i have to get this oh what is
1101
that this is for you but you don't have to actually put it on
1102
because your hair looks too good yeah exactly okay amazing um wait first of all
1103
i just have to say thank you so much for coming on thank you
1104
so much you are you are a light you are a light
1105
and so talented and it's so cool to meet someone who's so talented who's also like just a great human being.
1106
Thank you.
1107
Your mom did a great job with you.
1108
Okay.
1109
Look in this camera, this main camera, and we say goodnight.
1110
I love you.
1111
Goodnight.
1112
I love you.
1113
Yeah, because they have to go to bed.
1114
Oh, okay.
1115
Everyone has to go to bed.
1116
Okay.
1117
Ready?
1118
Yeah.
1119
Three, two, one.
1120
Goodnight.
1121
I love you.
1122
It was Lisa.
1123
Thank you.
1124
You're gonna figure it out in your dreams.
1125
Goodnight, all and deal.
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Vocabolario e note di pronuncia per questa lezione
Questa lezione di conversazione si basa sul video “I’m lalalaying down with Lisa”. Questo video contiene 1125 frasi e 9669 parole da ripetere con lo shadowing. Il parlato dura 55:57. Chi parla ha un ritmo naturale di circa 173 parole al minuto, vicino a una conversazione quotidiana. Il 83% delle parole rientra nelle 3.000 più comuni dell’inglese; conviene studiare le altre prima di iniziare.
Vocaboli chiave di questo video
15 parole del video che vale la pena imparare, con pronuncia e significato:
| Parola | Pronuncia | Significato |
|---|---|---|
| coconut sostantivo | /ˈkəʊ.kə.nʌt/ | noce di cocco |
| audition sostantivo | /ɑˈdɪʃən/ | audizione |
| ghost sostantivo | /ɡoʊst/ | fantasma, spettro |
| lotus sostantivo | /ˈloʊtəs/ | loto |
| iconic aggettivo | /aɪˈkɑnɪk/ | iconico |
| scary aggettivo | /ˈskɛə.ɹi/ | pauroso |
| gorgeous aggettivo | /ˈɡoɹd͡ʒəs/ | magnifico, splendido |
| chill verbo | /tʃɪl/ | raffreddare |
| manifest sostantivo | /ˈmæn.ɪ.fɛst/ | manifesto |
| everyday aggettivo | /ˈɛvɹiˌdeɪ/ | quotidiano, giornaliero |
| rider sostantivo | /ˈɹaɪ̯.dəː/ | cavaliere, motociclista |
| meal sostantivo | /ˈmiːl/ | pasto |
| membership sostantivo | iscrizione, appartenenza | |
| mirror sostantivo | /ˈmiɹɚ/ | specchio |
| pet sostantivo | /pɛt/ | animale da compagnia, animale d'affezione |
I phrasal verb che sentirai
| Parola | Pronuncia | Significato |
|---|---|---|
| go out verbo | uscire, andare fuori | |
| go back verbo | tornare | |
| grow up verbo | crescere | |
| find out verbo | scoprire | |
| wake up verbo | /ˌweɪk ˈʌp/ | svegliarsi |
| bring up verbo | menzionare, nominare | |
| come back verbo | tornare | |
| come up with verbo | ideare, escogitare |
Frasi da ripetere
Frasi brevi e complete del video che puoi riutilizzare nella conversazione di tutti i giorni:
- Why don't you show your mom?
- How'd you get that?
- How'd you book that?
- Truly, I'm like, did anyone see this?
- Do you want to keep acting?
La grammatica di questo video
Le strutture che chi parla usa di più, con le parole esatte del video:
| Struttura | Nel video |
|---|---|
| Frasi condizionali if + frase, will/would + verbo — una condizione e il suo risultato | if i cooked the house would burn · if i had it I would guzzle |
| “Used to” used to + verbo — un’abitudine o uno stato passato che non è più vero | used to work · used to try · used to affect |
| Present perfect have/has + participio passato — un’azione passata che conta ancora adesso | I've ever seen · i've been · have been |
| Frasi relative who / which + frase — un’informazione in più su una persona o una cosa | one who like · one who played |
Pronuncia a cui fare attenzione
Chi parla usa 371 contrazioni e forme ridotte, come I'm, you're, don't. Pronunciale nella forma breve, così come le senti.
- I suoni “th”: thick /θɪk/, leather /ˈlɛðɚ/, tooth /tuθ/
- I suoni “sh” e “zh”: audition /ɑˈdɪʃən/, congratulations /kənˌɡɹæt͡ʃəˈleɪʃ(ə)nz/, delicious /dɪˈlɪ.ʃəs/, expectation /ˌɛk.spɛkˈteɪ.ʃən/, shock /ʃɔk/
- Parole lunghe — attenzione all’accento: congratulations /kənˌɡɹæt͡ʃəˈleɪʃ(ə)nz/, genuinely /ˈd͡ʒɛn.ju.ɪn.li/, unbelievable /ˌʌnbɪˈliːvəbl̩/, expectation /ˌɛk.spɛkˈteɪ.ʃən/, documentary /ˌdɒk.jʊˈmɛn.tɹi/
I suoni difficili per chi parla italiano:
- /h/ — va soffiata, non è muta: harvest /ˈhɑɹ.vəst/, hungry /ˈhʌŋ.ɡɹi/, horrible /ˈhɔɹ.ɪ.bəl/, horror /ˈhɒɹ.ə/, hilarious /hɪˈlɛə.ɹi.əs/
- Consonante finale — senza aggiungere una vocale dopo: coconut /ˈkəʊ.kə.nʌt/, ghost /ɡoʊst/, lotus /ˈloʊtəs/, iconic /aɪˈkɑnɪk/, tape /teɪ̯p/
- /æ/ — più aperta della “e”: manifest /ˈmæn.ɪ.fɛst/, congratulations /kənˌɡɹæt͡ʃəˈleɪʃ(ə)nz/, jacket /ˈd͡ʒæk.ɪt/, talented /ˈtæləntɪd/, podcast /ˈpɑdˌkæst/
Come esercitarsi con questo video
- Ascolta tutto il video una volta senza parlare e annota le parole che non conosci.
- Inizia a velocità 0,75×, fai shadowing frase per frase e torna alla velocità normale quando diventa facile.
- Registrati e confronta con l’originale, facendo attenzione a parole come coconut, audition, ghost.
Cos'è la tecnica dello Shadowing?
Shadowing è una tecnica di apprendimento delle lingue supportata da studi scientifici, originariamente sviluppata per la formazione dei traduttori professionisti e resa popolare dal poliglotta Dr. Alexander Arguelles. Il metodo è semplice ma potente: ascolti un audio in inglese di madrelingua e lo ripeti immediatamente ad alta voce — come un'ombra che segue il parlante con un ritardo di solo 1–2 secondi. A differenza dell'ascolto passivo o degli esercizi di grammatica, lo shadowing costringe il tuo cervello e i muscoli della bocca a elaborare e riprodurre simultaneamente i modelli di discorso reale. La ricerca dimostra che migliora significativamente la precisione della pronuncia, l'intonazione, il ritmo, il discorso connesso, la comprensione dell'ascolto e la fluidità del parlato — rendendolo uno dei metodi più efficaci per la preparazione alla prova di speaking dell'IELTS e per la comunicazione reale in inglese.