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Goat superhero.
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Oof.
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Why are you taking so long to answer this, Matt?
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I'd have to say Spider-Man.
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Excellent actor in that role.
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And then you took it.
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Hi everyone, I'm Matt Damon.
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And I'm Tom Holland.
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And we are here for Goat Talk with Conlex.
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All right.
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Right, take it away.
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I wonder if you'll still be one of my favorite people after this session.
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I'm worried, dude.
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I'm worried.
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Goat, Sir Christopher Nolan movie.
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Oh, it's The Odyssey.
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Oh, wow.
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Are we allowed to say that?
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Well, I feel like I'm like a supporting character, so I think I could say that.
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But I think everybody watching hasn't seen it yet.
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Okay.
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Very true, very true.
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So let's go through the filmography.
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It's a very tough question.
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I thought Oppenheimer was remarkable.
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I found Oppenheimer so fascinating.
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I found all the performances so amazing.
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And I thought I was going to go into that movie and be intimidated by the science.
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And he did such a good job of bringing you with Killian's character.
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And I just thought it was amazing.
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I saw it in IMAX and I loved every minute of it.
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That's a good one.
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I'm in it, so that's weird.
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In Interstellar, I'm in it.
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You're in that one too.
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And I love the prestige.
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I love Inception.
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I also love Inception.
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I love Inception.
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Yeah.
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I remember seeing that movie for the first time, like really vividly.
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Well, and then there's the Dark Knight.
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I mean, I would have to say that one just for my old pal.
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I like that.
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I will not argue with you on that one.
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Alright, this is going to be the least debated.
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Yeah, I know.
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Goat talk we've ever had.
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Go ahead.
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Goat movie you wish you were in.
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I mean, I love The Matrix.
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The Matrix just blew me away when I saw it, but I couldn't, it's kian- Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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And it's just so iconic, which is one of the reasons the movie works, is it carries you through it, and so that's a really tough question.
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I love Inception, you know, is another one.
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Yeah, Inception's good.
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Everyone's so good in the movie.
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I've actually never seen The Matrix.
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Are you kidding me?
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Yeah.
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I don't know why I've never seen it.
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Are you fucking kidding me?
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I know that I would love it, I just have never- Are you kidding me?
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It's never been a movie I've put on.
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I'm so jealous you get to see that for the first time.
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Yeah, I've never seen it.
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I wonder if it'll feel as groundbreaking to you because so much was subsequently based on it.
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Right, right, right.
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That it might feel like, but it's extraordinary.
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It's a great movie.
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My movie that we have spoken about before is Primal Fear.
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I have always really been blown away by Edward Norton's performance in that film.
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I'd love to have had the opportunity to play that role.
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Yeah, it was a great, great, great role.
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I couldn't believe that it made its way down to the masses.
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It was actually a real impetus behind us writing Good Will Hunting
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because when Ben and I went out for that role and Edward beat out everybody and as he should have, he was phenomenal in the movie.
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Ben and I looked at each other and we were like, there's never gonna be a role that good
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that comes down into the category of unknown actor and we all can take a shot at it, but it's 10,000 people going for this one thing.
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So we really buckled down and wrote Good Will Hunting a little more desperately.
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That's pretty cool that you just feel like we'll go and do it ourselves.
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I mean out of necessity.
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They're just, it's very, very hard as you know to break in.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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That the hardest jobs to get are the first ones you get.
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Yeah, tough racket.
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Oh God, this is embarrassing.
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Goat Matt Damon movie.
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The Odyssey.
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Nice.
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For me, in terms of my experience of watching it would be The Bourne Identity.
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I fucking love that movie.
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I absolutely love that movie.
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Goat Superhero.
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Why are you taking so long to answer this, Matt?
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Well, I mean...
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Are you thinking of Ben in that superman costume?
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Is that what you're thinking of?
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Yeah, he played George Reeves in a film called Hollywoodland.
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So the George Reeves was the man who played Superman first on TV in the old black and white Superman.
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It was a terrific performance.
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I'd have to say Spider-Man.
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I really would.
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That was the one as a kid that I used to dress up as Spider-Man all the time.
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You know, I just missed it.
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I was just, I think I was too old when the first one came around, when Toby did it.
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I'm a little older than Toby, and then I just, so there's been a parade of excellent actors in that role.
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And then you took it.
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And he went to shit.
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Again, I would have to agree.
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Amari's gonna be really mad at us because we are not arguing.
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We are not arguing at all.
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Instead of Spider-Man, what else would he do?
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For me, it would have to be Robert Downey Jr.'s Iron Man.
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I was just gonna say that.
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I think...
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Because he's funny and he looks like a guy you could hang out with.
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Yeah.
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And it's Downey.
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And there are only three people, I think, that have ever really done this.
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And it's you, Downey, and Hugh Jackman.
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No one wants to play Jason Bourne, no one wants to play Iron Man, and no one wants to play Wolverine.
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You know, I'm the third person to play Spider-Man, you know, there's been lots of Batmans, there's been lots of Supermans, all this sort of stuff.
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But there are only a few characters in our industry where it feels like, just leave them be.
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Oh wow, that's awesome, thank you very much.
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This is the only, this is like, this is more like a team catch show.
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The absolute opposite of what...
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Goat celeb to get lost at sea with.
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Ooh, I'm gonna say Chris Hemsworth.
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Ah, well, because you were lost at sea with him.
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I actually wasn't thinking that angle.
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I was more just thinking I'd feel pretty safe at sea with Chris Hemsworth.
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You don't know him well enough.
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I probably don't.
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I'd take his brother Luke over in a second.
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Oh, really?
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Oh, yeah.
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But I'd have to say Ben Affleck because, you know, he's my oldest friend.
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So if I was gonna be lost at sea, he'd be a good guy to bullshit with.
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I can't really argue with that.
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All right.
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Goat Zendaya role.
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I know what it is for me.
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Well, if my kids, if I don't say Euphoria, my kids are going to go crazy.
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But she's so wonderful in everything she does.
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I love her in Dune, I loved her in the drama.
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The drama is my favorite.
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I texted you after that and I just said, please tell her, like, that was just, she's so great.
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Both of them were just so great. So good.
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She just, she gets better and better and better, but that's a tough one.
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Yeah, for me it's the drama.
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I thought she was sensational in that film. So good.
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Easy.
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Goat action movie.
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Back to the Future.
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Ah.
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Is that an action movie?
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That's more, I think of that more as a comedy.
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Midnight Run.
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I also think of it as a comedy, but that is one of my favorite all time movies.
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It has high octane moments.
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It does, absolutely.
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I can agree with you on that, but I do encourage you once again to see The Matrix.
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Okay, The Matrix, The Matrix.
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Goat movie stunt of yours.
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I jumped off a bridge once in Berlin.
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You know, it was a night shoot, and it was in the Bourne movie where I jump off the bridge onto a boat in the second one.
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And there's no rehearsing it.
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You know, you have the harness, you trust the guys, and it's just like so...
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And they're like, yeah, grab the rail right there and just send it.
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There's no better feeling than pulling off a stunt, landing it, and just knowing that you don't have to do it again.
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It's such a good feeling.
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That turn to the camera, like, you got it, right?
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Did you get that?
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Yeah.
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I think my favorite stunt I've ever done is something that I was always advised not to do.
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It never made the cut of the film It was with a good friend of yours Doug Liman.
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Oh, yeah It's called a dead man, and I knew where the full harness Did you really do that
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that I think always that's one of the hardest stunts to
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do I always wanted to do it It was the sequence where I'm supposed to be charging at this alien
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And it was supposed to like kick me in the throat
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and throw me on the ground and they were gonna do it with CG
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But I wanted to really try and create this like strong snapback
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So essentially you wear the harness you tie yourself off to a fixed point
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And then you just run away from the point and
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when the line goes taut you just whack and The cameraman missed it
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because it happened
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so quickly I didn't anticipating it hurting as much as it did like it winded me beyond belief
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But I like it was something about it I love the commitment
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when you have to run through the point that you know You know, Gago, my stunt guy, he's done a bunch of movies with me.
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He was on this doing a bunch of the Troy warriors.
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He was one of the stuntmen George hired.
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And Gago had to do a couple dead man's in the Battle of Troy that were just...
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And I talked to him about it and he was just like, Yep, it's one of the hardest things we do.
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Yep.
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Goat actor.
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I'm going to take back to way before your time.
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Pacino.
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It's Marlon Brando.
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Oh, yeah.
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Pacino is Pacino and De Niro is De Niro and you know
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because Brando made that paved the way for that next generation
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which you know it's it's all of those incredible actors Duvall and Hackman and Merrill and all of those extraordinary
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icons but he he made that leap and
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if you can ever go back
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and look at some of his movies like Mutiny on the Bounty
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or like everyone else is doing something And then this guy comes on screen
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and is totally real and believable and you're like, what the fuck is that?
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Okay, I'm a little embarrassed to say similar to the matrix.
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I have not seen enough of his work So it sounds like I got some homework to do.
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That's a that'll be fun fun homework.
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Oh, I almost got it I'm trying to find the the back and forth, but we just keep agreeing.
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It's probably why we get along go relationship advice Oh, it's tough to give relationship advice because everyone's relationship is different.
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Mm-hmm.
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And you don't want to sound like a jackass.
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You also don't want to take your own relationship for granted.
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Yup.
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And kind of handing down advice from on high.
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I think you're asking for trouble down the road.
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Here's one that a friend of mine gave me that I've always thought was great.
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Under promise, over deliver.
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Nice.
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The other one, a guy said to me once, hey, on the way out the door, I said, give me something.
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You know, I was married for 10 years at that point.
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And he thought about it really seriously and he said,
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you know, I decided a long time ago I'd rather be happy than write That's really really really clever.
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Like that's a good point, you know, you know when you win an argument Yeah, you're not really that happy about it.
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You're not happy and yeah.
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For me, it's just to communicate Communication is key and if you can communicate you can get through anything.
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That's my big one.
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That's true Yeah, how quickly you can communicate is how quickly you can repair.
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Exactly And every problem I've ever run into is yeah that
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that exact thing that's a great very You said something today actually
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that I found really pretty cool You said something about like you can't control the way things happen, but you can control how you feel about it Yeah, that's a good life lesson.
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I like that a lot.
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That's an old stoic one.
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Yeah, I like that Goat football club
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See I'll say the New England Patriots
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But if we're talking soccer to me it would have to be Barcelona I think there's a mystique to Barcelona
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that no other football club has.
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And people actually think that I have an incredible knowledge about football.
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I really don't.
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But to me, it would have to be Barcelona.
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I have to agree with you.
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Particularly that run they went on and how they had developed all of their players, and they had all been playing together since childhood basically.
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Yeah.
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And they had advanced to every kind of level until they were, you know, they were just unstoppable.
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There's something about them.
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Yeah, there's a nostalgia to them that will never go away.
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Goat rule you would make as king.
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I would make people practice kindness.
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Similar to Zeus's law, right?
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Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
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Again, I don't know how I could disagree with that, but I would say that three-day weekends for the rest of time.
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Oh, that's excellent, that's excellent.
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That's what I would say.
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All right.
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We are not gonna disagree.
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Oh, worst, oh it's- Oh!
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Worst place to get stranded.
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Where you shot Hades would probably be, the underworld would be a pretty ropey place to get stranded?
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If it were actually the underworld, but it was actually Iceland, which wouldn't be a bad place to get stranded.
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I once shot in the world's second largest dump.
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Oh, wow. In Mexico.
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And that was, we had to, you literally had to throw your shoes out when you left.
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No way.
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Because it was so kind of toxic.
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What were you doing there?
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A movie called Elysium.
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Oh, right, of course, yeah.
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And we shot for a couple of weeks there, and it was just the smell was just so overwhelming.
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That's the worst place I've ever encountered.
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I mean, a dump, I think, in any place.
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Yeah, it's- It didn't have to be Mexico, it just happened to be for that.
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Oof.
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Worst British food.
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We're not known for having the best food, England.
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What they eat in sort of the East End, they eat the jellied eel.
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Oh, for fuck's sake.
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Yeah, horrendous, disgusting.
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Terrible.
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Horrendous.
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Okay, worst American food.
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Um, worst American food?
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I like American food though.
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I like like brisket and barbecue and- Oh, that's all great.
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All that kind of stuff.
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That's all great.
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Do you know what I don't love?
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Corn dogs.
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Because what the fuck is that?
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I can't say that I disagree with you.
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What is it?
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I never got the- even as a kid.
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Like at the beach, they would sell corn dogs and I didn't get it.
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I love a hot dog.
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Love a hot dog?
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Love a hot dog.
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I remember watching Drake and Josh as a kid.
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There's a Nickelodeon show and they're always nailing corndogs.
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And I just was like, what on earth are they eating?
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Corndog's a horrible idea.
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Yeah, and I've never had one.
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Like from the idea of it to the execution.
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The presentation of it?
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The presentation.
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It's on a stick.
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It's on a stick and it's not sweet or icy or it's disgusting.
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Sorry.
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All right.
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Last one.
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What career move you almost made?
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I almost took a movie early on in my career.
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I think it would have precluded me from doing, like, The Rainmaker.
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Oh, wow.
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Which then got you into...
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Good Will Hunting got greenlit, which was the reason I got Saving Private Ryan.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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That would have been like a canon event.
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Yeah.
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Whoa.
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Isn't that crazy that, like, that decision you made that day changed your life?
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Yeah, it's really, like, I don't even want to think about it.
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The moments where I found myself not happy at work, I feel like I learned a lot from those experiences, so I don't know if I would necessarily say that they are like the worst career moves.
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Yeah, you don't learn from your successes.
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Exactly.
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And I'm not trying.
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They've all brought you here.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And I'm not, I don't mean that in like a cocky way.
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No, no, I understand.
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I take your meaning.
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I hope everybody at home does too.
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They won't.
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They'll clip it on and they'll be like, it's gonna be a whole thing.
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Thank you guys.
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ParolaPronunciaSignificato
stunt sostantivo/stʌnt/acrobazia
harness verbo/ˈhɑɹ.nəs/imbracare, imbragare
strand sostantivo/ˈstɹænd/filo
disagree verbo/dɪsəˈɡɹi/non concordare, non combaciare
underworld sostantivo/ˈʌndɚˌwɚld/inferi, oltretomba
superhero sostantivo/ˈs(j)upɚhɪɹoʊ/supereroe
dump verbo/dʌmp/scaricare, buttare
homework sostantivo/ˈhoʊmˌwɝk/compito, compiti
corn sostantivo/ˈkɔːn/grano
brisket sostantivo/ˈbɹɪskɪt/petto, punta di petto
cameraman sostantivo/ˈkæm(ə)ɹəˌmæn/operatore, addetto
embarrass verbo/ɪmˈbæɹəs/imbarazzare, mettere in imbarazzo
filmography sostantivofilmografia
greenlight verbo/ˈɡɹiːnlaɪt/approvare, omologare
groundbreaking aggettivo/ˈɡɹaʊndˌbɹeɪkɪŋ/rivoluzionario, innovativo

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blow away verbospazzare via
come around verbo/kʌ.məˈɹaʊnd/ripensarsi, tornare in sé
get along verboandare d'accordo, ingranare
get through verbo/ɡɛt ˈθɹu/superare, farcela
go ahead verbo/ˌɡoʊ əˈhɛd/procedere, andare avanti
go away verbopartire, andarsene
go back verbotornare
go through verboattraversare

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Present perfect have/has + participio passato — un’azione passata che conta ancora adessohasn't seen · we've ever had · I've actually never seen
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  • Parole lunghe — attenzione all’accento: superhero /ˈs(j)upɚhɪɹoʊ/, cameraman /ˈkæm(ə)ɹəˌmæn/, intimidate /ɪnˈtɪmɪdeɪt/, unstoppable /ʌnˈstɔ.pə.bəl/, sensational /sɛnˈseɪʃənəl/

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  • /h/ — va soffiata, non è muta: harness /ˈhɑɹ.nəs/, horrendous /həˈɹɛndəs/, superhero /ˈs(j)upɚhɪɹoʊ/, homework /ˈhoʊmˌwɝk/, rehearse /ɹɪˈhɝs/
  • Consonante finale — senza aggiungere una vocale dopo: matrix /ˈmeɪ.tɹɪks/, stunt /stʌnt/, harness /ˈhɑɹ.nəs/, strand /ˈstɹænd/, horrendous /həˈɹɛndəs/
  • /æ/ — più aperta della “e”: strand /ˈstɹænd/, superman /ˈsupɚmæn/, cameraman /ˈkæm(ə)ɹəˌmæn/, embarrass /ɪmˈbæɹəs/, fascinate /ˈfæsɪneɪt/

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