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It's still there.
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It's still there.
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It's still there.
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Oh my God.
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Oh my God.
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Oh my God.
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Oh my God.
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Hey, what's going on everybody for first week feast.
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I'm Sean Evans and you're watching hot ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we're joined by Sabrina Carpenter.
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She's a pop music force.
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The ripple effect of her 2022 breakout still reverberating, but the dawn of a new era begins.
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The latest singles are please, please, please.
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And the chart topping espresso as well as the announcement of a brand brand new album.
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It's called Short and Sweet and it's set to drop on August 23rd.
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Sabrina Carpenter, welcome to the show.
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Thank you for having me.
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What's your mindset like going into this?
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Are you someone who appreciates a spicy meal?
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Uh, appreciates is the wrong word.
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They always just kind of like happen to me and then I deal with it.
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But I was telling you earlier, I really like what it does for my sinuses.
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So I'm really excited for them to be open, like super open, you know.
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Maybe I'll come out a changed woman.
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I think
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everything's a trick, so I'm just scared.
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I'm just like, I don't actually know you, we just met Sean.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I mean, these are chicken, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay. That one's lovely.
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Tastes really good.
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So it's interesting to me that one of your biggest songs, Nonsense, almost didn't make the last album.
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Is there a lesson to be learned there?
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And if so, how might it have influenced or shaped your approach to making a track list this time around?
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It made me want to trust my personal favorites a little bit more.
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I think when you're making a record over time, you want to play it for your best friends, you want to play it for your family.
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And then you start to get in your head a little bit on everyone's favorites.
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And I think the lesson I learned with Nonsense was that this song was so kindred with my personality.
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And I started to get in my head on like
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what fits a record versus what fits like Sabrina or myself as an artist.
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And that taught me so many lessons moving forward, making the next record.
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I think now I just whatever feels the most honest and connects to me the most, I feel like we'll connect with other people.
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Give the wings love, they'll love you back.
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Oh no. Okay, one, two, three. So good.
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Not blasting us out yet.
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No. In fact, like, I don't want to get cocky.
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Keep it coming, keep it coming.
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No, that's lovely.
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I love that one.
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You know, a lot of times comedians, they'll obsess about linguistic specificity, you know, and I'm wondering if there's a corollary for songwriters.
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Like, how much of honing a song is just playing with a particular word until the lyric lands just right?
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That's such a good question.
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I think sometimes I really do go into it with such a specific, you know, word or phrase that I love.
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And I do kind of obsess over it until I can find the right place for it, whether it's in that song or a completely different song.
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I'm not a comedian so I don't know what they do and you know all I know is that sometimes comedians
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Have lines that fall flat and just get booed
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and that's how I feel sometimes as a songwriter Sometimes you have lines
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and songs that fall flat and get booed and sometimes you have you know the best joke of the night So yeah, sometimes you spin it and that's why you got to take the shots, you know Sabrina.
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Yeah, I'm not a sports girl I think I know what you just said.
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I think I know you just said Do you have a lot of friends?
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Like I'm just I guess I asked the question because I'm like
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if you if you have friends you think you have good friends that I Trust you and we're good.
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Yeah, listen say what you will about me, but like I'm a dog You know what I mean?
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Like the same six best friends I have now are the same six best friends I had
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when I was eight years old.
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That's what I do to tell me you have long relationships Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have long relationships that I'm fine.
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Yeah, but if you're like yeah Like I kind of switch friend groups every other month.
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No, no, they can say what they will about me but I am a ride or die.
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I'm in the foxhole with you.
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Okay, then let's do it.
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Mmm.
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Mmm.
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So I noticed
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that you'll oftentimes take a break from your live show to talk one-on-one with a fan who's sitting in the front row, which can lead to everything from,
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you know, you fielding general life advice to impromptu marriage proposals in the crowd.
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Uh-huh.
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What's the most over your head you've ever felt during one of those one-on-one therapy conversations in the middle of a concert?
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Someone told me their dad left.
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This is not funny, by the way.
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Exactly, this is how I felt.
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Humor is how you work your way through it.
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This is unfortunate.
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You have people recording, being like, oh, so she makes light of people's dads.
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It's like, no, oh my gosh, but it's a show.
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Are we supposed to entertain and banter?
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And usually the person has a good sense of humor
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if they're telling me that their dad left in front of a crowd of a couple thousand people.
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So I was taken aback.
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And then somehow it turned into like a really beautiful conversation and I was able to like segue into my next song.
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Because I like to take people out of the show for a second.
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It just makes it feel a little bit more like a slumber party or something.
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My palate is being opened.
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My tongue, my senses are starting to bubble.
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Making lots of new friends over here.
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But it's nothing crazy.
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Oh, this is y'all's.
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Okay.
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Maybe I should have a bigger bite.
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I'm being a little bit.
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Right?
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Take it in.
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Okay.
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Mmm.
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These are really good. So far.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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But this one has kind of a smokiness to it.
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Los Calientes.
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Yes.
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I like that.
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Do you do anything unique or unconventional to protect your voice?
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Like I always wonder if singers approach it kind of like a skin care routine.
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I actually do.
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I do a lot of steaming.
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I do a lot of, you know, obviously vocal warm-ups.
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But I think there's just a lot of different methods and like random like herbal honeys that people wouldn't expect.
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, that keep it really healthy and because when you're constantly just like every night,
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it's like it's crazy to be able to maintain that for a very long period of time without getting horse, you know?
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Horse.
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I hate that.
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I hate that that word is what it's used for, but that's what it is.
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It kind of sounds like what it is.
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You know, it's like dishwasher, you know, horse.
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That's actually such a good point.
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Yeah, what else would you call a dishwasher?
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They nailed it.
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Exactly, they crushed it.
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Bullseye right off the bat.
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Yeah, I know.
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That should be the rest of the interview.
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I was just talking about words that sound like what they should.
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Hmm.
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Hot sauce is another one.
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That sounds like what it should.
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That is what it is, you know?
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Yeah.
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And on that topic, this next one...
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Or like, or like, death trap. Is Meow's Revenge here.
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This is Fat Cat Meow's Revenge.
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I love cats.
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Do people like get in the comments and like judge like her bites weren't big enough?
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Yeah, and there's some of them that are like that over the years.
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I'm looking at you, no. But you're giving a good commitment to each one.
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You don't have to worry about that at all.
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And I will say this is the first one that kind of takes a little bit of a jump.
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It definitely, I just felt the shift.
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I felt the shift, but I'm not I'm not scared You got this Maybe that's a tourist thing, we're a little stubborn Are you stubborn?
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Yeah, I think so Sometimes I look at that stuff and I'm like That is me, that is me, and then some of them I'm like It's a bit far-fetched, I agree with that So,
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I know that you're a lifelong Beatles fan Yes, I am
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You cite Across the Universe as one of your favorite movies
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The White Album as one of your favorite records Meeting Paul McCartney, one of your career highlights
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So what I want to do here is play a little game where I'll give you a Beatles fact, okay?
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And you tell me if it's truth or nonsense.
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Well, this is going to be wild.
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Okay, let's do it.
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First up, the origin story from yesterday came from Paul McCartney waking up one morning and humming a melody about breakfast,
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repeating scrambled eggs, baby I love scrambled eggs, so he wouldn't forget the tune.
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I know that part of this is correct because it happened to him in a dream.
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And I know that he wrote the song in a dream.
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I didn't know about the scrambled eggs bit, but is that true?
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You're going with truth.
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You know your lore.
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I think true.
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I think true.
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All right, up next.
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The Beatles' long mop hair was so controversial that in 1963, they ran a newspaper ad that read,
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Best wishes to all the starving hairdressers and their families.
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Best wishes to all the starving hairdressers and their...
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It feels a little current.
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I'm going to say no. You are correct.
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That is nonsense.
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It was actually the Rolling Stones who did that.
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Look at you two for two.
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Yeah, you know, you just got to trust yourself
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On Bohemian Rhapsody Freddie Mercury plays the very same century-old Bexstein grand piano
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that Paul McCartney used when the Beatles recorded Hey Jude seven years prior I'm going to say yes, right?
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It's like so specific.
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It's so Freddie like knows his shit like you know what I mean?
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I feel like he would he would would like that.
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You're piecing together context clues here in a way that you are now three for three, Sabrina.
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Thank you.
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One more for you.
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We'll see if you can run the table.
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At one point, the relationship between Paul and George got so fraught that after the breakup, when Paul was on stage,
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he would incessantly challenge George to come meet him on stage so the two could duel.
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Okay, so this one I feel like I go both ways because they had such playful banter, those boys.
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So I want to say yes.
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It was actually David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar.
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So that was not what I was going to say.
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The color of this is making me fearful.
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Good place to be.
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Okay.
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Habanero, sherry, koji.
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Yeah.
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No. No. No, that one's fine.
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Yeah, and this is...
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Yeah.
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Have you just...
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Has anyone ever projectile in front of you?
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Never in front of me, believe it or not.
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Why, do you think you might?
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No, no, I just want to make sure...
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That I'm setting a standard.
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Yeah, an expectation.
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It's alright.
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You gotta let it go.
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The struggle is part of the spectacle.
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What would I like to drink?
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Um, let's do this one.
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I'm gonna hit this milkshake that you brought.
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Yeah, actually, milk tastes so bad.
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Bro.
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Chocolate milkshake.
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That's where it's at.
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Yeah, kinda clutch.
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That's where it's at.
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There you go.
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Okay.
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That was fine.
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It definitely affects you.
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Yeah.
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But these should.
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That's the point.
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That's the show.
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You gotta be moved.
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Exactly.
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Throw you off your game.
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You gotta leave with a new outlook on life.
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Right.
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Don't trust anyone.
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It's getting fun now.
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Don't trust Sean.
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That's what you gotta lean into.
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Yeah.
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There's a long history, a great tradition of misheard lyrics in Pop Smashes.
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Totally.
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Is there any sort of creative strategy to the difficult to decipher but ultra catchy vocal performance on a song like Espresso?
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I do like to pay attention to if people can understand lyrics because so much of what I like is, you know, the punchline.
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And if people don't know the punchline, it's like, waste, waste of 30 seconds.
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And I'm learning as I go.
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I don't think, sorry, that one came back to haunt me.
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Yeah, I don't think I have it all figured out.
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But that's how I feel about Me Espresso.
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I've heard a lot of people that were like, she should have said that's that blonde espresso, duh.
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And I'm like, well, yes.
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That is another song, I think, as well, that deserves its spot in the world.
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But this one for me was like, you know, Me Espresso just felt like the right thing to say
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and it rhymes with the line before it and just all the reasons.
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And I just think it's so funny.
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Like, maybe everyone's right.
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How are you with red flags?
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Like, do you see them?
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No. Red lights.
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That's a red flag, yeah.
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So let's take a bite.
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It's a self-evident red flag.
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Hmm.
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Really want to eat more chicken.
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Okay.
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This does have a build on it.
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Yeah.
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And you're probably starting to feel that now.
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Wow, that one's so exciting.
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Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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Coming alive, sinuses loosening up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So you began uploading covers to the internet at nine years old, a tradition that you continue to this day, you know, oftentimes in your concert,
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reserving some of your set list to pay tribute.
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I'm a snotty girl by the way.
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Let it fly.
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Get a long, long leash on this show.
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Okay.
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We got Kleenex over there.
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Oh, I didn't see the TV.
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We have lots of things going on over there.
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All for you.
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All for you.
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All right.
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Keep going.
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What were you saying?
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Does anything come to mind when you think about a popular song that is low key, like the hardest to cover live?
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I really like to incorporate covers because I started covering others.
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This one is really spicy, Sean.
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I know.
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I know.
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I'm with you.
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This one's really spicy.
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It's like my tongue now is trying to revert back into my throat.
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I know, yeah.
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A lot of things happening over here.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's a red flag, that one.
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A red flag.
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Big red flag.
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Um, like songs with a big range.
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Like, sometimes that's the point because I like to challenge myself as much as I can
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and add a different element to the show where I can sing it a little bit more.
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How are we feeling?
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Is the skies clear?
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That answer was bullshit.
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I don't know what I just told you.
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Like, that's how I'm feeling right now.
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I was like, what did I just say?
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It sounded like you nailed the dismount to me, to be honest with you.
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So, what do you think we should do?
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Should we, like...
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Do you want to take a break?
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Do you want to slow it down?
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Do you want to just dive right in?
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We got to do it, right?
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We got to do it.
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Is it this one?
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It's that one.
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Okay.
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It was so nice to meet you.
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Bro.
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No. Whoa.
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Yeah.
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Don't ask me a question.
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I know.
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I'll just let it cook.
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I'll just let it cook.
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Sit back.
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Nothing worse than what you're going through, what you're going through.
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And here's this bald guy winding it up with a context heavy question that he's going to land.
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No, oh my gosh, that was so crazy.
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You just want to scream.
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Okay, I do remember one time when I ate something so hot that I just started clawing the ground.
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Uh-oh.
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I don't think I'm gonna do that.
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But you know what?
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I'll be ready.
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All right, I'll keep my head on a snowball.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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You know what?
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Yeah, I'm going for the milkshake.
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It's still there.
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It's still there.
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It's still there.
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Oh my god.
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Oh my god.
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Oh my god.
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I know it'll kind of not go away.
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This is sort of like who we are and what we become at this point in the show I think I'm fine.
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Mm-hmm.
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I think it's all mental You're right you've got this so Just hot cheers
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Oh my god, and then just be careful around the eyes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's my tongue.
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It's my tongue.
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Yeah, right?
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Wait, why is it five minutes in though?
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It's only been 30 seconds.
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You're just caught.
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Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
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You're just caught in a time loop, in a spice time loop.
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Do you do this to yourself willingly?
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Has anyone ever sued you?
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Why?
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You getting an idea or something?
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No, I'm just- You signed a waiver.
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That's ironclad, alright, Sabrina?
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I find the waver?
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Oh my god.
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Oh my gosh.
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No, I was just curious.
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Um...
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You know what's crazy?
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Yeah.
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This milkshake has really saved me.
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Me too, by the way.
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You know, not everybody brings milkshakes, Sabrina.
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It's always nice when someone does, though.
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Because this is...
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It like leaves you for a second and then it's like ready again.
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Comes right back.
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Yeah.
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It comes right back.
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Comes right back.
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Now, what would be crazy is if you were going to tell me to eat another one right now.
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The worst is over.
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Famous last words.
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Cheers.
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Cheers.
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Okay.
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Wait.
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All right.
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I'd like to applaud whoever made the wings.
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They're lovely.
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That last one was, was like the saddest thing that's ever happened to me.
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But we made it through.
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And honestly, I haven't been as snotty as I thought I was going to be.
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Yeah, you're good.
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Yeah.
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You're good.
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Right?
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Exactly.
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Yeah, we're good.
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We're good.
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Actually, this one's kind of fine.
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Where does headlining the Bethlehem Music Fest fall on your list of career accomplishments?
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That's so sweet of you to ask.
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That was like my first, like, maybe I'm going to be successful.
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Like, that was truly, because I think anywhere where you grow up
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and you have like the biggest music festival in your town, like, you know, that was such a part of my childhood going every year
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that when I got to headline I was like this is one of my biggest dreams
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and that has only turned into like so many of the cool things
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that I've always wanted to do
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that you know even the show like it's really just you
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know it's such a it's such a gift to like get to watch things
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and then find yourself getting to do them
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and you can just kind of like look back and know
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that like all the all the like tour bus nights where you know the hot water goes out
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and you don't have hot water It's like those things are building character and prepare you for those moments.
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I'm a big believer in timing, so.
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Love Music Fest though, big fan.
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Alright Sabrina.
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Is this one like spicy? In solidarity? In solidarity.
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Yeah.
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Okay wait, it's just not coming out, it's like ketchup.
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Oh, there you go.
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Oh.
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I didn't like that sound.
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Someone went, oh.
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Okay.
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That means you did it right.
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So, before I do this, um, like, is tomorrow gonna be hard for me?
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Does it have, like, a long-lasting effect?
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I'm just trying to gauge.
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Yeah.
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So, what you're feeling right now, in the next 15 to 20 minutes, will just be a happy memory.
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Okay?
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Okay.
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You'll be like, I could do that again.
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You know, you'll forget the pain that you went through.
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Okay.
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Tomorrow, I'm not making any promises, you know?
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Like, what happens?
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Well, we're not going to see each other tomorrow, so you won't have to worry about that.
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I don't have to worry about it.
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Okay, let's do it.
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All right, here we go.
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I took a big bite on that one.
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I saw that.
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Yeah.
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Going out with the bang.
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As we've learned today, you're a woman of many talents.
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Not the least of which when it comes to throwing down on some hot wings, alright Sabrina?
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But to close things out, I want to put a spotlight on a hidden one.
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You know, you once said that drawing is one of your favorite therapeutic activities.
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Yeah.
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I realize that this is a big ask under the circumstances, but I actually do have a sketch pad over here.
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Are you trying to distract me?
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We have some pencils, we have some pens.
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We're wondering if it wouldn't be too much trouble, maybe you could give us like a doodle or sketch inspired by your experience with the wings of death today.
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay.
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Let's do it. That one's... Had a little kickback.
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A little kickback on that one.
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Okay, wait.
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I kind of want the pencil, actually.
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Wow.
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I'm trying to figure out the shape of your head.
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It's a very clean oval.
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Okay.
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Mine's more of like a heart.
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So I've been dull- Alright.
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Okay, my lips are actually like- Are they bigger?
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It's a nice plump.
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Hot ones plump.
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Yeah, okay, okay.
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What color?
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Oh, your eyes.
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Like kind of a green.
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Green?
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Oh my god.
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Guys, I just like to...
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Alright, we're
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good, we're good.
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All right, I think it's good.
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The reveal.
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Incredible.
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Hang it in the lube.
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Sabrina Carpenter taking on the wings of death, living to tell the tale.
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Now there's nothing left to do, but roll off the red carpet for you.
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This camera, this camera, this camera to let the people know what you have going on in your life.
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I'm a singer and my new album is coming out.
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It's called Short and Sweet.
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Notice I didn't call it Short and Spicy because I like sweet things better.
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So please go listen and then thank you, Sean, for having me so much.
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Love you guys all.
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And make sure to check my website because I don't know what I just said.
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I think I have a website, right?
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This is PeterCarpenter.com.
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W-w-w-dot.
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Love you.
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Whoa.
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Such great questions, by the way.
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Do you want some ice cream?
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Yeah, oh my god, wait, what?
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Aw.
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Whenever you most need ice cream on this show, we make it appear.
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I was just saying, could that have happened sooner or no?
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Yeah, if I would've thought about it.
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I would have been really pissed if I left and I didn't almost cry or want to like jump off a cliff.
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So I think this was exactly what I hoped for. And more.
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But I'm thinking about a lot of people differently now.
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Like other pasts, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Makes me wonder what's going on.
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Psychologically.
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Oh my God!
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Vocabulary and speaking notes for this lesson
This B2 speaking lesson is built on the video “Sabrina Carpenter Talks Nonsense While Eating Spicy Wings”. This video has 521 sentences and 3966 words to shadow. The speech runs for 24:33. The speaker talks at a natural 162 words per minute, close to everyday conversation. 83% of the words are among the 3,000 most common in English; the rest is worth studying before you start.
Key vocabulary in this video
The 15 most advanced words in the video, with pronunciation and meaning:
| Word | Pronunciation | Meaning |
|---|---|---|
| espresso noun | /ɛˈspɹɛsoʊ/ | A concentrated coffee beverage brewed by forcing hot water under high pressure through finely ground coffee. |
| milkshake noun | /ˈmɪlk.ʃeɪk/ | A thick beverage consisting of milk and ice cream mixed together, often with fruit, chocolate, or other flavoring. |
| spicy adjective | /ˈspaɪsi/ | Of, pertaining to, or containing spice. |
| gosh | /ɡɑːʃ/ | A mild expression of surprise or enthusiasm. |
| scramble verb | /ˈskɹæmbl̩/ | To move hurriedly to a location, especially by using all limbs against a surface. |
| comedian noun | /kəˈmiː.di.ən/ | An entertainer who performs in a humorous manner, especially by telling jokes. |
| cheers | /t͡ʃɪəz/ | A common toast used when drinking in company. |
| banter verb | /ˈbæntə/ | To engage in banter or playful conversation. |
| dishwasher noun | /ˈdɪʃˌwɑʃɚ/ | A machine for washing dishes. |
| hairdresser noun | A person who cuts or styles hair as an occupation or profession. | |
| kickback noun | /ˈkɪkbæk/ | A backward kick; a retrograde movement of an extremity. |
| obsess verb | /əbˈsɛs/ | To be preoccupied with a single topic or emotion. |
| oftentimes adverb | /ˈɔf.ənˌtaɪmz/ | Frequently; often. |
| plump adjective | /plʌmp/ | Having a full and rounded shape; chubby, somewhat overweight. |
| sinus noun | /ˈsaɪ.nəs/ | A pouch or cavity in a bone or other tissue, especially one in the bones of the face or skull connecting with the nasal cavities (the paranasal sinus). |
Phrasal verbs you will hear
| Word | Pronunciation | Meaning |
|---|---|---|
| come out verb | /ˌkʌm ˈaʊt/ | To be discovered; to be revealed. |
| go through verb | To travel from one end of something to the other. | |
| figure out verb | To come to understand; to discover or find a solution; to deduce. | |
| go away verb | To depart or leave a place. | |
| go out verb | To leave, especially a building. | |
| grow up verb | To mature and become an adult. | |
| jump off verb | To move from an elevated place by one jump. | |
| look back verb | To think of (past events) in retrospect (in hindsight). |
Sentences worth repeating
Short, complete lines from the video that you can reuse in everyday conversation:
- What's your mindset like going into this?
- Are you someone who appreciates a spicy meal?
- Are we supposed to entertain and banter?
- I didn't know about the scrambled eggs bit, but is that true?
- Has anyone ever projectile in front of you?
Grammar in this video
The structures the speaker uses most, with the exact words from the video:
| Structure | In the video |
|---|---|
| Present perfect have/has + past participle — a past action that still matters now | have influenced · you've ever felt · I've heard |
| Passive voice be + past participle — the focus is on what happens, not who does it | be learned · was taken · being opened |
| Relative clauses who / which + clause — extra information about a person or thing | someone who appreciates · row, which can |
Pronunciation to watch
The speaker uses 126 contractions and reduced forms, such as I'm, you're, don't. Say them the short way, as you hear them.
- The “sh” and “zh” sounds: milkshake /ˈmɪlk.ʃeɪk/, gosh /ɡɑːʃ/, dishwasher /ˈdɪʃˌwɑʃɚ/, sherry /ˈʃɛɹi/, accomplishment /əˈkɑm.plɪʃ.mənt/
- Long words — get the stress right: comedian /kəˈmiː.di.ən/, solidarity /ˌsɑ.ləˈdæɹ.ə.ti/, corollary /ˈkɔɹəˌlɛɹi/, habanero /ˌ(h)ɑbəˈnɛɹoʊ/, incessantly /ɪnˈsɛs.ənt.li/
How to practise with this video
- Listen to the whole video once without speaking and note the words you do not know.
- Start at 0.75× speed, shadow it sentence by sentence, then go back to normal speed once it feels easy.
- Record yourself and compare with the original, paying attention to words like espresso, milkshake, spicy.
What is the Shadowing Technique?
Shadowing is a science-backed language learning technique originally developed for professional interpreter training and popularized by polyglot Dr. Alexander Arguelles. The method is simple but powerful: you listen to native English audio and immediately repeat it out loud — like a shadow following the speaker with just a 1–2 second delay. Unlike passive listening or grammar drills, shadowing forces your brain and mouth muscles to simultaneously process and reproduce real speech patterns. Research shows it significantly improves pronunciation accuracy, intonation, rhythm, connected speech, listening comprehension, and speaking fluency — making it one of the most effective methods for IELTS Speaking preparation and real-world English communication.