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When you're teaching, how much priority do you find yourself giving to the more gifted disadvantaged students as opposed to the others?
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Well, it's not really as opposed to the others.
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It's got to be as well as the others.
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We can't just single out that one group.
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And, you know, philosophically and morally as a teacher, every student in the room is gifted.
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In terms of our higher ability, obviously, we do need to push as much as we can.
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Do you give them extra lessons?
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Do they hang about after school?
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Yes, we do.
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Do you try and give them...
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We look to do extra lessons after school.
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It is an issue for us because of funding and because of staffing.
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Being able to actually afford that resource is an issue for us.
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We put on extra classes during registration times, throughout the day as well.
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At certain times of the year, we might collapse a subject and intensify our maths and English and so on.
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Of the kind of set who are being represented in this documentary, of the more academically bright students,
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let's say, from the less advantaged backgrounds, preschool meals, basically, what sort of number do you think should be going to university
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and what sort of number do you think will go to university?
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Well, I suppose in a year group of 200,
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a good 40% on paper should be able to go to university from our school given our intake and their predicted grades.
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in terms of how many will go to university, it's often a very different picture.
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Much lower, though.
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Much lower, much lower, yeah.
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And there's obviously such a broad range of factors that mean that that is an issue for them.
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Let me turn to you, Selina, because we have a traditional notion of social mobility.
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My perception is people think it is a good thing, and social mobility is about basically helping people whose talent might otherwise be wasted and giving them that leg up,
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making sure they get to exploit their potential.
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Now is that the right notion of social mobility?
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Is that the desirable notion of social mobility?
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No I'd argue
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that part of the real problem with social mobility is it's been used by successive governments as really an opposition to equality.
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I mean what's being described here is excellent practice in a non-selective school that seeks to value every child, that says every child matters.
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But in fact what What we've seen with the kind of political
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and media discourse around social mobility has been the idea
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that there are only a few who are talented and somehow we have to get them on.
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Now, historically, that just doesn't work.
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The place where it was absolutely enshrined, one of the teachers on the documentary mentions the grammar schools,
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we saw between 1945 and the 70s an education system which was all about selection at 11, selection of the so-called brightest.
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Yes, which was taking them out.
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Taking them out and giving them a particular kind of education.
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Now what that was predicated on was the idea that children from working class backgrounds are disadvantaged, a word that has been used tonight, that their background doesn't give them anything,
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that they need to be taken out of that, and that they can be assessed on brightness and prepared for university.
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The fact is it didn't work and it didn't work
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because we now know that you cannot test or define brightness at 11
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or even 16 but also it didn't work because the fact is that education alone cannot lead to social mobility.
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Are you saying it's not desirable to get those youngsters into university?
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I mean you're not arguing that are you or are you arguing that?
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No, I think that everybody who wants to go to a university should be able to go to a university.
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And if I had my way, I would elect Jeremy Corbyn tomorrow.
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I would see an end to these pernicious tuition fees.
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I would properly fund comprehensive education.
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And I would say, let's all rise up as a society and get rid of this ridiculous inequality.
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Now, you see, and what do you do?
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I mean, just suppose Jeremy Corbyn doesn't win an election tomorrow and can't deliver that, where resources are limited in a school like John's.
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I mean, do you focus on some of the brighter ones and say, let's get you to university or not?
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I don't think that that is what's being done in John's school.
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And I think that that's absolutely right.
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And the reason why it's right is because the fact is that these kids are not lacking aspiration.
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They are lacking material resources because of government cuts.
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Is that true, John?
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Is it aspiration or material resource?
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There's an element of aspiration, but I think that's a knock-on And of the material resources, I think Selina's absolutely right.
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Social mobility for our students isn't just about getting a group to university.
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It's got to be about improving the housing, improving the income of the families, and actually wrapping around the whole child.
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We're seeing cuts constantly with mental health and wellbeing
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and all of those other aspects that are so vital to getting these students.
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When I ask you, what's the main barrier to progress of those children?
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Is it home?
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Is it chaotic lives?
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Is it the teaching resources?
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Is it the school?
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What do you see as the critical I think this is the crux of the issue, which is why there isn't a magic bullet to solve this problem.
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It is everything, you know.
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They have home lives which are chaotic, which are difficult.
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I mean, I know through my own children, if I've had a stressful day, I'm not necessarily going to be devoting the time to educate at home in the way that I should.
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So if your life is constantly chaotic, if, as we see with Shakira on the documentary, there's a disability at home,
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you know, her mum desperately wants better for her, but is totally at a loss as how to do that.
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And, Selina, just to very briefly pin you down, basically, you're telling people don't go with the notion of social...
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The notion of social mobility that's popularly talked about is not the right metric against which to judge success.
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If we are saying that success means that people can lead lives
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that they find fulfilling and where they can provide for their family,
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then we need to expand employment opportunities and stop asking schools to do the work that government should be doing.
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The education system at the moment isn't obviously doing that fully.
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Thank you both.
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Thanks both very much indeed.
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Contexto e Fundo
O vídeo discute mobilidade social e educação, com uma conversa entre educadores e especialistas sobre práticas escolares, acesso à universidade e as limitações de modelos seletivos. O diálogo é rico em expressões coloquiais e debates complexos, tornando-o ideal para quem quer aprender inglês com YouTube, especialmente por meio de técnicas como o shadowspeak.
5 Frases Principais para Comunicação Diária
- "It's got to be as well as the others" – Expressão útil para afirmar que algo deve ser feito além de outra tarefa, não em oposição.
- "a good 40%" – Forma informal de dizer "cerca de 40%", comum em conversas cotidianas.
- "on paper" – Significa "em teoria" ou "segundo os dados", usado para contrastar com a realidade.
- "a leg up" – Expressão idiomática que significa "um auxílio" ou "uma oportunidade extra".
- "pernicious tuition fees" – "Taxas de matrícula perniciosas" (adjetivo forte para descrever algo prejudicial).
Guia Passo a Passo para Shadowing
O shadowing (ou shadow speak) é uma técnica eficaz para melhorar a pronúncia e a fluência. Aqui está como aplicá-la nesse vídeo: 1. Escute um trecho curto (5-10 segundos) e preste atenção à entonação, especialmente nas perguntas e respostas rápidas. 2. Repita imediatamente após o falante, copiando o ritmo e a ênfase – isso ajuda a treinar o cérebro a processar e reproduzir o inglês em tempo real. 3. Foque nas frases complexas, como "the fact is it didn't work because we now know that you cannot test or define brightness at 11 or even 16", dividindo-as em partes menores se necessário. 4. Grave sua voz e compare com o original para identificar diferenças na pronúncia de palavras como "philosophically" ou "intensify". 5. Pratique diariamente por 10-15 minutos – o shadowspeak exige consistência para gerar resultados.
Esse vídeo é excelente para o shadow speech porque mistura conversas informais e debates, expondo o aluno a variedades de fala. Ao aprender inglês com YouTube, escolher conteúdos com diálogos reais como esse ajuda a se adaptar a situações do cotidiano e a aprimorar a compreensão oral.
Gramática neste vídeo
As estruturas que o falante mais usa, com as palavras exatas do vídeo:
| Estrutura | No vídeo |
|---|---|
| Voz passiva be + particípio passado — o foco está no que acontece, não em quem faz | is gifted · being represented · be wasted |
| Present perfect have/has + particípio passado — uma ação passada que ainda importa agora | it's been · we've seen · has been |
| Orações relativas who / which + oração — informação extra sobre uma pessoa ou coisa | system which was · Yes, which was · issue, which is |
O que é a Técnica de Shadowing?
Shadowing é uma técnica de aprendizado de idiomas com base científica, originalmente desenvolvida para o treinamento de intérpretes profissionais. O método é simples, mas poderoso: você ouve áudio em inglês nativo e repete imediatamente em voz alta — como uma sombra seguindo o falante com 1-2 segundos de atraso. Pesquisas mostram melhora significativa na precisão da pronúncia, entonação, ritmo, sons conectados, compreensão auditiva e fluência na fala.