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Hi, I'm Ali Plum.
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I'm here to talk to Emma about HeForShe and the launch of the new HeForShe website.
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For those who don't know, what is HeForShe?
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HeForShe is a solidarity movement for gender equality, like in a nutshell.
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Big question here.
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Yeah.
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What is HeForShe trying to achieve?
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We're trying to achieve gender equality,
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but I think the really cool thing about HeForShe is that we aren't just,
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you know, an education or an awareness campaign.
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It's wonderful that people are talking about it and it's great that so many people are talking about it.
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But we're more than just an awareness campaign.
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We are mission focused.
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We're really trying to collect,
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register, be aware of people that are taking action for gender equality.
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And that's really our main focus.
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Where are we currently in the world with a state of gender equality?
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Well it's really interesting because there's this perceived notion that gender inequality was sort of a thing of the past,
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that we've sort of figured that one out
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and you know we're kind of where we need to be
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but when you start to look even just a little bit deeper beneath the surface you start to realise
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that actually we've got quite a long way to go.
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Why is it important to involve men like myself with this project?
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I think there's this perception that feminism or gender equality or like women's issues are to be talked about by women,
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that it's for women, and you know,
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women are like this separate thing,
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but of course women are human beings and these are human rights that we're talking about.
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So we kind of need everyone to be part of the conversation
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and that was really what He For She is about
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and how He For She was born was that we wanted to make sure that the conversation was
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inclusive and also we were talking to people that didn't agree with us and that was actually really important.
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We want to create change and
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so the conversation needs to be opened up to groups
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that perhaps traditionally hadn't been associated with engaging with feminism or gender equality.
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Could you give me some examples of stories from men who have become involved with HeForShe?
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I was on the university tour for HeForShe and there was a young man who we asked,
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you know, like, what would gender equality mean for you?
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And he was like, well,
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it would mean that I could drink my fizzy cider without my mates taking the piss out of me.
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I was like, well, this doesn't sound like a very compelling,
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compelling reason to achieve gender equality in the world.
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But actually, he sort of started to elaborate more.
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And he was just saying that he found the pressure
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to fit this male mould and to conform to this kind of lad culture of like this very heavy binge drinking,
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actually really kind of soul destroying.
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And that he was often really ashamed of how he acted
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when he was on these huge like binge drinking things with his mates
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and how he treated girls specifically when he was like that.
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And the dude just wanted to drink fizzy cider.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And it was just really sweet, actually.
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And I just found that something so simple.
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But guys just feel this incredible pressure to be...
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that in order to be a man,
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there are all of these ideas that they really have to live up to and conform to.
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And it's actually a bit suffocating.
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We're here to specifically discuss the he4she.org website.
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Yes.
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Why is that so important?
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Well, it's important because we want to be the first and largest crowdsourcing tool for solutions to gender equality.
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And the reason that is exciting is because we've had people sign up to The Commitment.
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And I've had lots of wonderful emails from men saying,
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all right, I'm on board.
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I get it.
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I'm into it.
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you know, great, but like,
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what do you want me to do?
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What do you actually want me to do about this now?
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I'm like, so this has been great,
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and we've received hundreds of emails like this,
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and so we've set up this website.
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But what's been really interesting is that we haven't wanted to prescribe to anyone how best within their specific country,
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town, school, community, whatever the best way to enact this change is.
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And actually when people have come up with their own solutions organically,
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there's been some amazing things that have happened.
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So a man in Zimbabwe started a husband's school for Hifashi, which was incredible.
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We've had one of our Hifashi champions,
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the president of Malawi, just annulled 300 child bride marriages and sent the girls back to school,
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which was unbelievable.
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We've had the University of Waterloo decided that they were going to give scholarships for girls for engineering specifically,
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which has been amazing.
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So we've kind of, we've realized that like you guys have the solutions
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and we just need to create the platform through which we can inspire you.
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So we've created this website and we think it's pretty awesome.
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It's got all of these new features.
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It's got a, it's called an impact map.
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And what it does is it shows you a map of the world.
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and then if you click on your country it'll show you the issue
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which is which you think
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or you voted is the most important with regards to gender equality
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so it might be political representation it might be education it
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might be health it might be identity you know there's all of these different ones
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that you can sort of like click on and you can vote
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and what's great is that we're going to be able to collect
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that data and we're gonna be able to take that to governments,
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to companies, businesses, universities, individuals and say this is the issue
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that the people of your country think is the one
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which most needs to be worked on and changed and when we can use that to leverage resources,
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funds you know we can really we can really push behind whatever
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that is and the coolest thing is that it's kind of essentially voted for by the public.
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It's essentially the reason I'm the most excited about the website is
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because it's sort of like a manifestation of an online grassroots movement in
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that it's really driven by people and their involvement with it.
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What are your plans for the future of the website?
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Where next?
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I gave the speech last September about he for she
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and about what it was about and I talked about how gender wasn't a binary
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so it wasn't kind of men over here in this corner and women over here in this corner.
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I was trying to express this idea that gender works on this spectrum
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and that people fall in all sorts of different places on the spectrum.
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And then we realised that the website didn't really reflect that and so HeForShe actually changed it which is pretty cool.
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So today I get to be the first woman who can sign up to the HeForShe commitment which is awesome.
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The other thing that we did is made it so
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that you didn't have to sign the website as a man or a woman.
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You could actually choose how you identified yourself,
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what pronoun you wanted to use.
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So whether you're trans, non-gender conforming,
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whatever you want to call yourself,
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you can register and identify yourself in that way.
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We wanted to make sure that the website was really inclusive and really empowering for the people that were taking the commitment.
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And that they could identify themselves as they wanted.
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So that's really exciting.
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So the Secretary General is the first man to sign up.
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I'm going to be the first woman.
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And we hope that lots and lots and lots of people will continue to sign up,
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which is awesome.
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The other cool thing that we're measuring is not just the number of people taking the commitment,
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but the number of gender equality actions.
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So people actually doing something for he for she,
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for gender equality, whether that be a marathon being run for he for she,
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or whether it be a husband's school that gets started in Zimbabwe,
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or whatever the action is,
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we want to measure it,
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we want to know that it's important to us,
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we want to share the story of that happening.
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and we want that visual on the website so that's really exciting too.
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In other words, if you're watching this and you haven't already signed up, sign up.
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Yes, if you're watching this and you haven't signed up yet,
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whoever you are, wherever you are, please, please do.
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It's a really fun and interesting website and I think it's going to turn into what we hope is an amazing resource,
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toolkit, solutions kit that will make your commitment to these ideas actionable.
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And we want to empower you to support and we need and we want that support.
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Could you tell me a bit more about how the website works?
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Yes, so I don't know anything about websites,
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so it was all a little bit confusing for me at first.
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But the website's been designed so that it's sort of mobile friendly
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and iPad friendly and it sort of works in all these different mediums.
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So it's got what I'm told in the tech world is called a hamburger in the top left hand corner,
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which is like these three lines which functions as your navigation
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which means that you can use it on your mobile
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and it sort of takes you to these three sort of key you know ideas
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or principles of the website which is that your voice matters
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and and your actions make it real
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and your stories are really important to us too so the website is kind of collecting this data archiving these stories,
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collecting all of these solutions and tools and ideas about how we can make gender equality a reality and actionable.
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And yeah, it's kind of,
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it's very simple and clean and hopefully easy to use.
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That's the idea.
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So you're watching this on your mobile?
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Yeah.
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You could go and sign up right now.
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Yeah.
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So that's, yeah, that's the idea is that you can access it on your mobile.
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super easy to use on your phone.
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Yeah, you could just sign up right now.
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You could just now, you could just pause this video and be like,
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I know what I'm gonna do.
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I'm gonna go and sign the HeForShe commitment.
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This pin here, as you can see.
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Tell me about the logo for HeForShe.
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So the HeForShe logo is actually kind of an amalgamation of the symbol for women and the symbol for men.
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We really wanted a symbol or a logo that kind of encapsulated the idea of these two genders coming together in solidarity.
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And so it's a combined symbol.
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And is there anywhere that other people who aren't already lucky enough to have a pin?
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Like yourself?
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Like myself, could get their own?
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Yes, so they've actually been sold out,
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which is wonderful, but there are more that are coming next week,
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there are more of the pins and the bans and they're on the website too.
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Who are the big supporters you have for the website?
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When you log onto the website,
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what you'll see first of all is you'll see these kind portraits of women and men and they've been paired up,
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so there's only half a face.
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And so the idea behind that was that,
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you know, we are, the idea that we are one,
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that what connects us is actually more significant than what divides us.
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We kind of hope that these portraits will build
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and we're also hoping
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that we can tell the stories of all of the different faces on the website
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and why they care about gender equality and why it's important to them.
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So we have NATO is one of our he for she champions, pretty amazing.
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The whole of the European Commission,
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the UN Secretary General, President Obama,
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Prince Harry has signed up.
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We've had some pretty amazing support really.
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It's really been amazing.
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Finally, what is next for you, Emma? be continuing the he for she university tour hopefully
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and uh we we've only done it in europe so far
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but we hope that it's going to spread spread everywhere so
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that will be great i'm going to be at davos next
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week at the world economic forum with our 10 he for she impact champions
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who are going to release some very interesting data on on gender parity within their own companies
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and the representation of women within their institutions which will be amazing.
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So yeah, lots happening and then today obviously focusing on the website launch.
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Tell me about your book club,
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I hear you have one.
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I do have a book club.
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It's called Our Shared Shelf and it's on Goodreads and the idea is that we pick a new book every month.
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This month's book is My Life on the Road by Gloria Steinem,
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which is her new memoir.
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I'm about two-thirds of the way through, I would say, now.
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And it's been amazing.
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There's tons and tons and tons of discussion topics.
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I think we have 80,000 members now, which is unbelievable.
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It's really fun, and I'm going to be trying to organize conversations with the authors
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or other thinkers on the topic to discuss with readers, too.
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So it's a really cool, fun project.
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My shared shelf.
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Our shared shelf.
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Because it's not mine.
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It's ours.
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Do you see?
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She'd have worked that one out, shouldn't I?
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Do you see that?
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It's ours.
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It's everybody's.
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Thank you so much for talking to me, Emma.
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Thank you for talking to me.
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I now know a lot more than I used to.
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Yay!
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Genuinely.
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That's great.
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And I got a pin.
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And you got a he-for-she band.
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This is the wrong way around.
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You're going to take them off when you leave the room, aren't you?
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He's upside down.
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Heaps you.
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I should have put it the wrong way around.
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В видео, где Эмма Уотсон обсуждает движение HeForShe, мы видим, как важен диалог о гендерном равенстве. Эмма акцентирует внимание на том, что движение направлено не только на осведомленность, но и на реальное действие. Она подчеркивает необходимость вовлечения мужчин в обсуждение вопросов феминизма и социальной справедливости. Это помогает создать более широкий и инклюзивный разговор, который может привести к реальным изменениям в обществе.
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- «Мы пытаемся достичь гендерного равенства.» - цель инициативы.
- «Нам нужно включить всех в разговор.» - важность участия мужчин.
- «Некоторые не согласны с нами.» - принятие альтернативных мнений.
- «Это человеческие права.» - признание равенства как общечеловеческой ценности.
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