Pratique du Shadowing: Does God exist? | J. Krishnamurti - Apprendre l'anglais à l'oral avec la vidéo

Sixth Question: 'Kindly give a straight reply.

Does God exist, or not? Yes, or no?

If yes, how best to realise Him in this life?' It's a lovely question, isn’t it?

'Kindly give a straight reply.

Does God exist, or not? Yes, or no?

If yes, how best to realise Him in this life?' Man throughout history from the ancient Greeks, from the ancient Sumerians, has had this idea of God.

Right? I'm not at all sure whether in the Upanishads they mention God at all.

Or is it a later invention?

You understand?

So, what is God?

We are investigating, I am not attacking God.

I am not denying God, but we are investigating whether there is such a thing as God.

Who invented God?

Did God invent us, did God create us?

God, who is omnipotent, omniscient, eternal, merciful, just, all goodness. Right?

That’s your concept of God.

And if you say, he has created us, then we are part of his image.

We are part of him.

That is, we are omniscient, generous, loving. Right?

And eternal.

Are we? Or we think we are?

You understand my question?

If God created you, he must be an extraordinary entity because he wants you to lead a terrible life.

You understand my question?

If God made you, why are you like this?

You must be extraordinary human beings, mustn’t you?

Beautiful, full of joy, excitement, full of delight, but you are not.

So either you have created God, or God has created you.

But if you examine very closely, you have created God.

In India, there are about – I was told there are about 300,000 gods and more.

Every local person has his own god.

So, sirs, we have created God.

See the irony of it.

Thought has created God and then thought worships the image which thought has created.

Which is, to worship oneself and call it 'God'.

You understand all this?

'The better part of you is God'. Right?

I wonder if you understand this.

First of all, let’s be clear.

Have you created God?

The local gods, round the corner, or the local god in Rome, or in Tirupati, or wherever, you have created them, haven’t you?

You're so very uncertain, aren’t you? So frightened.

If you say, 'We have created', then you are scared stiff because you have created out of your fear, that.

Out of your fear, you want security.

You want safety, you want to feel there is somebody looking after you because you are afraid. You follow?

So you create that, and then worship that.

Just see what you are doing!

Going to Tirupati and putting all your money in the bag.

Do you think gods want your money?

Sir, look at it all.

You have nothing to offer but money, garlands, prostrations, rituals.

Right? You have nothing else to offer.

Have you realised the tragedy of this, sirs?

If you love, not God, that’s very easy to love God because it's an abstraction, it has not much meaning.

But if you loved, that very love is God, that very love is sacred.

You won’t go outside to look for God.

You understand all this, sirs?

And the questioner wants to know if I believe in God.

I don’t. Because 'God' is not something created by man.

There is such a thing as eternity, which is to be outside of time.

Right, sir?

For that you must have a mind, a heart that is completely free from all the burdens of life.

Right? From your vanity, your arrogance, your selfishness.

You follow, sir?

And we say, we are not capable of it, tell us what to do.

You are back in the cycle, somebody to tell you what to do.

Sir, you're in a jungle, you have to walk through it by yourself.

And for that you need vitality and vigour and strength.

Not belief in God, in goodness – belief has no place where truth is concerned.

Q: Then what is atman, sir?

Atman, about which we have been hearing even Annie Besant in the past.

Atman. K: Who is that?

Q: The conscience inside each of us.

K: Who is atman?

Q: The conscience inside each of us.

K: Is conscience atman?

Q: What they call a soul.

K: Soul. Which soul?

The sole of a shoe? Or soul?

I don’t know what you are talking about.

Q: Atman. K: At last, you are all getting excited!

Because your belief is being attacked.

You are not meeting the challenge, but you are resisting it.

You think there is something inside you which is permanent, which is the light of God, which is nameless, etc, etc, call it 'atman', 'soul', 'light', whatever you like to call it.

That there is inside you, in your conscience, in your brain, in your mind, something which is not worldly, which is not of thought.

Right? You believe that, don’t you? Yes, sir?

Q: No, I don’t believe in it.

K: Why? Q: There is no such thing.

K: How do you know?

Q: (Inaudible) K: Childish. Just belief, belief, belief.

What kind of brains have you, sirs?

Don’t you want to find out?

Don’t you want to investigate into the truth of this matter, whether there is soul, atman, whatever you like to call it?

Just believe. If you believe, what value has it?

Suppose I believe I have got atman, or whatever it is, 'super-atman' I would call it.

I believe in that. What value has it?

In my daily life what part does it play?

I am miserable, I am confused, I’m lonely, anxious, in agony, what’s the point of my having a belief in atman?

If I am free from all that, completely, then I shall find out.

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But to suppose I am, it becomes so childish.

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For God’s sake.

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And we are all grown-up people – jobs, children, wives.

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Q: (Inaudible) K: What, what, what, sir? I don’t understand what you’re saying.

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Q: So many great people… K: Ramana Maharshi and who?

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Q: Ramakrishna.

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K: All right, sir. What about them?

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Q: They lived a simple life (inaudible) K: Sir, would you forget all these people, including Ramana Maharshi, whatever the other gentleman was?

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Would you forget them?

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What value has their life to you?

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You have your life to live, not their life!

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God, what kind…?

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And when the people say they have attained – whatever they have attained – how do you know?

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Q: You have also said there's some timeless eternity.

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K: Ah, I have said it, sir. Don’t believe it!

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Q: That's not fair, sir.

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K: It is not fair, I know, it is not quite fair.

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But, sir, just listen.

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Sir, truth is something you cannot experience.

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It cannot be told to you, the word is not that.

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But if you live on words, it is that.

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You understand?

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The word is not that, like the word ‘tree’ is not the tree.

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I can describe eternity, blah, blah, but the word is not that.

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But we are satisfied with the word.

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Right, sir?

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You love with your heart, with your mind, with everything that you have, you love somebody, and you tell me of that love, and I accept the words but I have no...

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– the flower isn’t there, the perfume isn’t there.

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You see, sirs, you have leaders: religious leaders and political leaders.

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I don’t know why, why you have leaders at all.

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Ramakrishna, whatever gurus that you've had, one after the other.

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This country is full of them.

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And why do you follow? You understand?

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If once you realised that you are responsible entirely for yourself, that you are in a jungle, literally in a jungle, where you have to make your own way out.

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There is nobody to lead you, then you forget all this: the examples, the books, everything, because you have got vitality, strength to go through.

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But the moment you depend on leaders, you become weak.

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If once you realise it, in your heart not just intellectually, then you are a man, a human being, free to walk straight!

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But we don’t want all that.

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Sir, it's so simple when you think of it all.

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Vocabulaire et conseils d’expression pour cette leçon

Cette vidéo contient 138 phrases et 1373 mots à répéter en shadowing. La partie parlée dure 18:16. Le locuteur parle lentement, environ 75 mots par minute, ce qui laisse le temps d’imiter chaque son. 84 % des mots font partie des 3 000 mots les plus courants en anglais ; le reste mérite d’être vu avant de commencer.

Vocabulaire clé de cette vidéo

15 mots de la vidéo à retenir, avec leur prononciation et leur sens :

Mot	Prononciation	Sens
belief nom	/bɪˈliːf/	croyance
conscience nom	/ˈkɑn.ʃəns/	conscience
investigate verbe	/ɪnˈvɛs.tə.ɡeɪt/	étudier
worship nom	/ˈwɝ.ʃɪp/	culte, adoration
jungle nom	/ˈd͡ʒʌŋ.ɡ(ə)l/	jungle, forêt vierge
eternity nom	/əˈtɜɹnəti/	éternité
extraordinary adjectif	/ɪksˈtɹɔːrdɪn(ə)ɹi/	extraordinaire
goodness nom	/ˈɡʊdnəs/	bonté
eternal adjectif	/ɪˈtɝ.nl̩/	éternel
childish adjectif	/ˈt͡ʃaɪldɪʃ/	puéril, gamin
attain verbe	/əˈteɪn/	atteindre
invent verbe	/ɪnˈvɛnt/	inventer
confused adjectif	/kənˈfjuːzd/	désorienté, perdu
flower nom	/ˈfloʊɚ/	fleur
sixth adjectif	/sɪksθ/	sixième, six

Les verbes à particule que vous entendrez

Mot	Sens
find out verbe	découvrir, savoir
go through verbe	traverser
grow up verbe	grandir

La grammaire de cette vidéo

Les structures que le locuteur utilise le plus, avec les mots exacts de la vidéo :

Structure	Dans la vidéo
Present perfect have/has + participe passé — une action passée qui compte encore maintenant	has created · have created · have attained
Voix passive be + participe passé — l’accent est mis sur ce qui arrive, pas sur qui le fait	was told · is sacred · is concerned
Propositions relatives who / which + proposition — une précision sur une personne ou une chose	eternity, which is · you which is · something which is

Prononciation à surveiller

Le locuteur utilise 23 contractions et formes réduites, comme don't, isn't, you're. Prononcez-les sous leur forme courte, telles que vous les entendez.

Les sons « sh » et « zh »: conscience /ˈkɑn.ʃəns/, worship /ˈwɝ.ʃɪp/, childish /ˈt͡ʃaɪldɪʃ/, shoe /ˈʃu/, anxious /ˈæŋkʃəs/
Mots longs — placez bien l’accent: investigate /ɪnˈvɛs.tə.ɡeɪt/, eternity /əˈtɜɹnəti/, extraordinary /ɪksˈtɹɔːrdɪn(ə)ɹi/, entity /ˈɛn.tə.ti/ [-tʰi], miserable /ˈmɪz(ə)ɹəbəl/

Comment s’entraîner avec cette vidéo

Écoutez la vidéo en entier une fois sans parler et notez les mots que vous ne connaissez pas.
Répétez phrase par phrase à vitesse normale, en reprenant chacune jusqu’à ce que votre rythme corresponde à celui du locuteur.
Enregistrez-vous et comparez avec l’original, en faisant attention à des mots comme belief, conscience, investigate.

Qu'est-ce que la technique du Shadowing ?

Le Shadowing est une technique d'apprentissage des langues fondée sur la science, développée à l'origine pour la formation des interprètes professionnels. Le principe est simple mais puissant : vous écoutez de l'anglais natif et le répétez immédiatement à voix haute — comme une ombre suivant le locuteur avec un décalage de 1 à 2 secondes. Les recherches montrent une amélioration significative de la précision de la prononciation, de l'intonation, du rythme, des liaisons, de la compréhension orale et de la fluidité.

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