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How many tea bags are you supposed to put in a teapot?
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Well, two if we're having two cups of tea.
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Can you get the...
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Can you get the mugs?
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The mugs.
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The mugs?
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Right here.
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Can you get the mugs?
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Today, Georgia, Uh-huh.
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We're going to have a cup of tea.
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We are.
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Just normal English breakfast tea.
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This is technically us not being able to meet up at each other's houses.
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So having to find, like, a house in the middle of where we live.
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How long did it take you to get here?
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This is like a 20 minute.
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It took me an hour.
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Really?
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So it's not in the middle.
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It took you an hour to get here?
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Mm-hmm.
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What was you driving in?
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Uber.
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When did you move out of Yams?
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When I was 18.
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18?
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Yeah.
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Straight to London.
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But before that, so when I was 15, I would come up to...
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So I met my manager, he saw a video of me on YouTube.
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Yeah.
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I got someone sent it to him.
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And then he came to meet me and my dad in Nando's.
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Yeah.
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Back at home in Warsaw.
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And he was like, I'd like...
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I'd like to set up some sessions with me.
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And then, so I was like, I don't want to go to uni.
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And I'm doing so much work in, well, I'm writing loads in London as well as at home.
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I'm a manager in London.
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I may as well move here.
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So I asked my aunt and uncle, can I move here?
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And I got a Starbucks transfer because I worked at Starbucks.
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Moved up and like, I worked in Starbucks like four times a week.
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Then I'd write, go home.
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But I'd literally, I didn't have any friends.
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I just like, like people forget I'm from Warsaw.
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Yeah.
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West Midlands.
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When I talk more, my accent does come out, so...
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But I'm not from London, so for me to even be where I am now is crazy.
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Because when I was growing up, all I thought was, like, how lucky...
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Like, I used to watch some stuff from people going to the Brit school, and I'm like, I want to be there, I want to do that.
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I couldn't, because I didn't live there.
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I want to order some food, and then I want to go and sit down properly.
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What food?
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What's the vibe?
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You could just do pizza.
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Do you like pizza?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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My favourite pizza is a margarita pizza with just pepperoni and sweet corn.
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I don't like sweet corn.
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But we can do that.
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No, it's OK.
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No, it's no. I don't mind it.
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We'll go halves and halves.
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OK.
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OK?
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Mm-hm.
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I was thinking about like what's going to happen after your album comes out
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and then who you're going to be and like where you're going to live
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and are you going to do like an Adele and like just go live in a mansion quietly and not go anywhere?
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Or are you going to be like at Carnival?
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I don't even know.
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It's a what if.
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My dad said he never answers what if questions.
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I try and avoid certain times.
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When it's really busy, I won't be like...
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When school kids come out?
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Yeah.
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That happened the other day.
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I was leaving my house to get an Uber.
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My Uber was there and I hate making Uber's way.
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And then these girls went, it's Georgia.
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So I ran back in the house.
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And I got someone else to go out and they were just hovering.
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And then they were outside my house going, outside my house going, should we knock on her door?
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It's just, eh.
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I feel the same.
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Yeah.
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Because I think I'll be out sometimes with my brother, and sometimes he's cool and sometimes he just wants to be left alone.
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But I'm like, Jamie, you don't understand.
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This could be the only time they're ever going to see you.
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And I know what it feels like, pick anyone, Eminem, I know what it feels like to have listened to someone over and over again.
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When you hear a certain song by them, it literally makes you feel a certain way
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or like takes you back to a certain time
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and then you see them
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and you're like nah bro like I gotta say something yeah it is
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that feeling of like you must have had that with someone no actually
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if Amy was still here what would you do would you go
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and speak to her yes 100% yeah that's probably the only
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person you'd be like I have to talk to you like
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but I'd like I'd suss it out first like see what
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she's on should I approach yet what are you protective over
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not protective of everything i just think more a lot of
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people watching me now they don't even see everything in life
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yeah it's proper scary i have nearly a million followers really on instagram that's weird
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when i moved to london i had about 500 yeah
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weird nearly a million
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and that's like it's quite a lot do you know who janet mock is no
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so janet mock is um this really amazing woman actually she's written i think she's written two
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or three books
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and she talks about this thing called the pretty privilege of like people act like it doesn't exist
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but it does i remember when i was watching
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that um my podcast my favorite podcast ever
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and i was like georgia they're talking about you in the podcast
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and you was like what did they say and i was like drake
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and that you're pretty and he was like but i'm an artist first
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and i was like yeah that must be really frustrating yeah do you get worried that people
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don't listen to you for the right reasons.
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A load of Twitter don't even know I make music. So much.
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They just think I'm a pretty person.
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Yeah.
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Thing is, when I first put up my first song, there was nothing.
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There was no image.
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There was no image.
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So I was like, well, I know that people listen to Blue Lights because they like the song, they like what it meant, they like my voice.
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But it is true, pretty privilege.
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And we have this, there was some George Smith versus colourism.
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Oh, yeah.
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Debate.
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I understand.
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I get it.
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I'm a conversation starter.
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it's fine people like i said people are always gonna say something you know
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and then we have this all you're light-skinned that's growing up
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through school like really yeah you know did you have those
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mixed-race friends i had one yeah i went to school with
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majority white kids okay no i didn't want to have lips
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i didn't want to have a bum i wanted to be
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skinny i did actually get quite skinny at one point
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because i thought you know my friends are blonde and skinny
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and they have long hair i had like huge extensions
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because i just didn't think i fitted in yeah but But back at school, I used to have a Tash.
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I probably have one now.
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A what?
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Mustache. Did you?
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I still have one before I get it done.
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A lot of people picked on me for that.
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People used to call me Tash all the time.
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But I got over it.
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My mum wouldn't let me get it removed.
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Why?
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Probably because she wanted me to go through something.
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Some kind of stress to be like, you know what, Georgia?
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But people are not nice.
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But you know, the pretty privilege is to watch all through history.
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Yeah.
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I noticed that your album was called Lost and Found, and then I was listening to all the songs, and I was like,
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There really is this through line in every song of someone who is feeling a certain way
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or has experienced something and having this moment of saying,
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of accepting that they feel that way and then like the next song maybe will be I don't feel that way anymore.
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Always.
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For Lost and Found, that was one of the early songs I wrote
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when I would come up to London with my big suitcase
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and then have to go back home like a couple of days after.
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And I remember the first time I went to Notting Hill
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and I had this big suitcase because I was going back home after the session.
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And I just remember thinking, I'm such a small girl in this city, quite lost.
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But I'm on my way to write a song.
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I know exactly what I'm doing.
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The next day I'll be confused.
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About something else?
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Yeah.
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It sums me up very well.
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Lost and found.
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I think it does.
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You really like singing, don't you?
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Yeah.
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I can tell.
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I've always sang my dad used to send me out the
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living room i used to get sent out the loo that's
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on a regular they were watching x factor i get sent
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out to my room just for making just for singing yes
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did you ever think about going on x factor uh
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or any like you go i go back home now to warsaw
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and people are like you should go next
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because i mean i guess i don't really know what i'm up to
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but apparently i should still go an x-factor in the audition
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why don't you try to do an x-factor i'm like no
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um i i did want to i used to be
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so jealous of those 17 year olds on there yeah let's go back to blue lights
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which for many people including you was where it all started i took media for a levels and part of
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the coursework let's give yourself a question to do something in media I chose post-colonialism in grind music.
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Okay.
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That's what I chose.
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I don't even spell what you just said.
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No, but funnily, I looked at Jamie's documentary for Form 696.
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696, right, okay.
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I was looking at Getz's video to rebel, rebel with a cause, I think.
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And it begins with a little black kid watching the TV and I think David Cameron has given a speech and like, I think my 17-year-old son,
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I've been like, this is him being brainwashed because this is a white man talking to him.
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Yeah.
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Okay?
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And then, so then I was watching Dizzy Rascal's video, Sirens.
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Dad says take a break, because I've been like, just working quite hard.
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And obviously I had blood when you hear the sirens going in my head.
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And I just started singing, like, freestyling.
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But then, a couple days before that, my friends, two friends, they came round to my house and they left, one of them left their bag of mine, their pouch.
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And I'm really nosy, picked it up.
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It was so light.
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So obviously I looked in it and there was a knife in there.
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and i got it out it was a flicky knife don't know why i did
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that because i didn't know how to get it back
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and i didn't want to tell my dad
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so i youtubed how to put it back yeah and i did
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and i did
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and i put it back in my bag i cleaned it i didn't never told him until like recently
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and i was like you know part i wrote blue lights about you guys
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because i'm based in your bag so i based the story of these two boys
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and imagined that's why blue lights is talking about this boy
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being late from school friend hits him up saying yeah
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because i was imagining what happened if he did something with
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that knife and he needed his friend to have him cover it up and then I told my friends recently, oh I wrote that song about you because I looked in your bag.
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He was like, nah I feel inspired.
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That's what he said.
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And he's doing good stuff now.
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He's like a youth mentor for like kids.
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Like trying to get them to stop doing bad stuff.
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Yeah.
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That's so mad.
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Have you seen Black Panther?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If you said no I was going to be really upset with you.
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Imagine.
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Did you know you were on the soundtrack for Black Panther before you saw it?
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I thought soundtracks meant it was going to be in the film.
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Only two of the songs made it in the film.
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From the whole soundtrack?
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From the soundtrack.
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But then I realised that the soundtrack is normally different to the film.
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I didn't know that though.
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I was in LA, doing Camp Flughnall.
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Charlie Creators Festival, just finished, and I got a DM from Tunji saying, Hey, do you want to work with Kendrick?
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I said, yeah.
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He said, okay.
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I connect you with his manager.
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So, he's like, do you want to work tonight?
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Yes.
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So, I get it.
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George, this is weird.
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I know.
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At what point, like, this is weird.
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I'm just like, bye guys.
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And this is from no, this is no contact before.
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This is not even like a...
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No, never.
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I didn't even know you listened to my music.
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Yeah.
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Get to studio about in half seven.
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I'm like, hi.
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Hi.
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So it's Kendrick, Dave, his manager, and then Sam Wave.
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And you're by yourself?
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Mm-hmm.
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Most of the time I'm by myself.
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But, like, explain...
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I've always been like, coming up to London by myself, first time I met Maverick Saber by myself, for me that was like, wow, I've listened to him so much.
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My dad's played him so much.
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No pressure, Georgia.
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There's no pressure.
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You're in a cab for 20 minutes going to see Kendrick Lamar at a studio.
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Your heart's not beating for us.
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You're not worried about your writing ability, like, you know, my voice sounds like nothing.
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You're just like, this is...
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I was thinking, I didn't take that person back.
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So that's probably what I was thinking.
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Haven't written a text message yet.
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Yeah, literally.
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And then I get to the studio.
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He left the room for me and just like, mess around.
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So I was just like, on the mic.
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Just like getting, just like that.
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Getting the melody sound and ideas.
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Then he comes back in.
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Then we just play like that.
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You just like doing noises on the mic.
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Just noises, yeah.
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And he lights them and then we wrote it together.
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He's just sick.
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Things he comes up with, sick.
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Just on the spot.
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I'm like, sick is the only, like, my word that I describe at anything amazing.
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It's just sick.
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It's just sick.
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But we connected really well and just were able to talk on a level and then write.
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So it was good.
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And break down the gift and the curse of working with someone
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that big because you've had moments in your career where you've worked with a massive artist and that's all you hear about.
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You just hear about them forever now.
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And then you have moments where you work with another massive artist, but then the credibility is different.
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I don't get it.
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I don't get it.
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Maybe when I'm really big and someone works with me, then we'll see how that goes up, that pans up.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Behind the scenes...
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But I understand why, because it makes people click on the link.
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If you put Drake, if you put K and Jit Lamar, people click on the link because they know...
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Regardless of what name's after.
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Yeah, because they know, oh, look, which I understand.
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And that's for everything.
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Even
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if it's in.. it doesn't have not just music anything you
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know in the entertainment world that's how that's how it works i know like i'm good at what i do
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so eventually regardless of everything else i can come through it
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but then maybe hopefully in a year i'm like i'm establishing myself i am me
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and i'm establishing myself as me yeah
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so maybe it would just be georgia yeah that's that's the
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aim in it i think it's it is kind of now like
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that to be honest but i understood why it wasn't because
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but it happens to everybody that that gets like shouted out
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or um co-signed or works with yeah and then what is annoying about
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that when it goes outside of your own brain of what those two collaborations meant to you well
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that can't be stopped end of yeah i saw something about ray
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and drake the other day oh yeah
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so it's just like everything is what it is yeah
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and you're so happy that you did those worked with those people
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so grateful for being on my life yeah that was mad Yeah, it was.
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Because me, Skepta, and Giggs.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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No one heard of me before.
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As in that, his fans, Drake's fans.
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So he opened up a whole new, like...
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World.
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Yeah, world.
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I remember he said one thing which I learned from him.
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Like, he wants to be the greatest ever, the best.
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So everything he does is the best.
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Like at his Boy Meets World tour, he had a huge...
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Globe.
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Globe, because he wanted that.
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And that song I learnt was just like, if you want whatever you want, do it.
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No matter how mad it will sound, you believe in what you do, do it.
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Is working with those people about building relationships forever?
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Is it about being able to call on Kendrick or even Dave, his manager, or Tunji or whoever, in the future and maintain those relationships?
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Or can it sometimes be, we've done a collaboration now, thank you, see you later?
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No, I'd like to think, hey, wanna be on my song?
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You know?
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Or if I need some advice or want them to hear something, I could hit them up.
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I still think Kendrick on my album, he liked it.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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Amazing.
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So I was happy.
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You was hoping that maybe sent a verse as well, like...
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Nah, no features.
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No, really?
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On my first album, I thought, nah, just me.
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People probably are going to expect me to have Drake feature and Kendrick feature.
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Maybe Caliucci's feature too. Who else?
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Stormzy feature.
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Yeah.
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Sorry.
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Maverick.
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And Maverick feature.
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Maverick feature.
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Don't.
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Sorry guys.
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But what am I going to do for album two?
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I've got to have other stuff to do.
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What else is on the album that was important to you?
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A lot of love.
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There's a lot of love on there, but love in different ways.
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Yeah.
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What is your relationship with love as a 20 year old woman in the world? Do you like it?
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Do you hate it?
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I like it.
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I like love.
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I love people in love.
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I love hearing about love.
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I like rom-coms.
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I do actually like them.
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Love is like, you can experience love in so many different ways.
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Love with your friends, love with your parents, love with boys, love with girls, love with so many different ways and you just still in my head
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and i'll write about it i write about it i'll give a lot
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but when somebody when i've taken too much that's it it's done yeah
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and i'm very i'm quite cold in that sense
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but i can be really like emotional at times
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and then i can turn stuff off okay
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which is my cold side being strong
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and being in love don't go hand in hand it seems like for you it's weak sometimes yeah weak
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when you're in no all the time
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but you are you're like susceptible to things that you wouldn't be
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if you weren't in love and so i was like you seem like someone who's like
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if you have to be in that space sometimes you will be sometimes i'll be like i didn't mean it
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oh i'll be like i don't say
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that yeah like i wrote teenage fantasies teenage fantasy i never
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had a boyfriend before oh really no i hadn't had a boyfriend how old were you
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when you had your first boyfriend 19 are you joking yeah 19 cool i really like
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that At school me and my friends all got called frigid.
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And everyone was like, you girls are all just weird.
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I forgot that word!
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Frigid, you know.
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Oh my goodness.
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I used to be like, I really liked loads of boys at school and they rejected me.
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Because I wasn't the prettiest girl at school.
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I was a bit clapped.
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I thought I had one time, yeah, because I had my hair permed and then I cut it really short.
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You know when Rihanna had the shaved side?
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That's what I thought I looked like but I didn't.
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You looked like what?
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Just anything else?
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Just not that.
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Where do you see this all going by the way?
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is to I need a lot of people to this my
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music oh I also want to write bond tune also want to direct small videos
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and performing in bigger venues but make it intimate make it intimate
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but yeah don't know about this not being able to leave places without loads of security
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so I don't think you can have one about the other I'm worried
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that you think you can no I know I can't
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because things are changing already huge yeah it's gonna be crazy yeah but I feel like it can be managed.
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I just have to be okay.
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I need to be okay.
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Yeah.
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And be okay, like really, in my head.
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I need to be okay.
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Else things can go wrong.
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I'm going to a holiday soon.
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Where are you going?
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Sri Lanka.
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Oh really?
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Have you been before?
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No. Ah.
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I haven't but I've seen and I've heard and you're gonna have a great time.
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I hope so.
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Do you tan easily?
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I'm tan now.
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LAUGHTER Every other match.
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Food!
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Juice!
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Um, I got pepperoni.
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Amazing.
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It's my fave.
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There's no sweet corn, cos you're a sweet corn hater.
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Yay!
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You need to try sweet corn out of the tin on a pizza, and you fold it in half like that, and then you dip it into ketchup.
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אוצר מילים והערות הגייה לשיעור הזה
שיעור הדיבור הזה ברמה B2 מבוסס על הסרטון “Jorja Smith: The 'Lost & Found' Interview”. בסרטון הזה יש 449 משפטים ו-3771 מילים לתרגול Shadowing. הדיבור נמשך 18:27. הדובר מדבר מהר, כ-204 מילים בדקה, אז צפו לצלילים מחוברים ומקוצרים. 84% מהמילים נמצאות בין 3,000 המילים הנפוצות ביותר באנגלית; כדאי ללמוד את השאר לפני שמתחילים.
אוצר מילים מרכזי בסרטון הזה
15 המילים המתקדמות ביותר בסרטון, עם ההגייה והמשמעות שלהן:
| מילה | הגייה | משמעות |
|---|---|---|
| soundtrack שם עצם | /ˈsaʊndˌtɹæk/ | פסקול |
| corn שם עצם | /ˈkɔːn/ | דָּגָן |
| skinny שם תואר | /ˈskɪni/ | רָזֶה |
| podcast שם עצם | /ˈpɑdˌkæst/ | פּוֹדְקַאסְט, הֶסְכֵּת |
| privilege שם עצם | /ˈpɹɪv.(ɪ.)lɪd͡ʒ/ | פְּרִיבִילֶגְיָה, זְכוּת יֶתֶר |
| siren שם עצם | /ˈsaɪɹən/ | סִּירֵנה |
| suitcase שם עצם | /ˈsutkeɪs/ | מזוודה \ מִזְוָדָה |
| mock פועל | /mɑk/ | סנט |
| rebel שם עצם | /ˈɹɛb.əl/ | מוֹרֵד |
| protective שם תואר | /pɹəˈtɛk.tɪv/ | הגנתי, מגן |
| brainwash שם עצם | /ˈbɹeɪnwɒʃ/ | שטיפת מוח \ שְׁטִיפַת מוֹחַ |
| frustrate פועל | /ˈfɹʌsˌtɹeɪt/ | תִּסְכֵּל |
| moustache שם עצם | /ˈmʌstæʃ/ | שָׂפָם |
| teapot שם עצם | /ˈti.pɔt/ | תֵּיוֹן |
| clap פועל | /klæp/ | כַּף מָחָא |
Phrasal verbs שתשמעו
| מילה | הגייה | משמעות |
|---|---|---|
| come out פועל | /ˌkʌm ˈaʊt/ | יָצָא |
| grow up פועל | גָּדַל | |
| go out פועל | יָצָא | |
| go up פועל | עָלָה | |
| sit down פועל | התיישב \ הִתְיַשֵּׁב |
משפטים שכדאי לחזור עליהם
משפטים קצרים ושלמים מהסרטון שאפשר להשתמש בהם בשיחה יומיומית:
- Can you get the mugs?
- How long did it take you to get here?
- It took you an hour to get here?
- What was you driving in?
- You really like singing, don't you?
דקדוק בסרטון הזה
המבנים שהדובר משתמש בהם הכי הרבה, עם המילים המדויקות מהסרטון:
| מבנה | בסרטון |
|---|---|
| “Used to” used to + verb — הרגל או מצב שהיה נכון בעבר וכבר לא קיים | used to watch · used to have · used to call |
| הווה מושלם (Present perfect) have/has + past participle — פעולה שקרתה בעבר ועדיין יש לה חשיבות או השפעה עכשיו | has experienced · has given · I've been |
| סביל (Passive voice) be + past participle — הדגש הוא על מה שקורה, לא על מי שעושה את הפעולה | be left · was called · being brainwashed |
הגייה ששווה לשים לב אליה
הדובר משתמש ב-131 קיצורים וצורות מקוצרות, כמו I'm, don't, you're. אמרו אותם בצורה הקצרה, כפי שאתם שומעים אותם.
- הצלילים של “sh” ו-“zh”: brainwash /ˈbɹeɪnwɒʃ/, moustache /ˈmʌstæʃ/, audition /ɑˈdɪʃən/, shave /ˈʃeɪ̯v/, mansion /ˈmæn.ʃən/
- מילים ארוכות — שימו לב להטעמה: pepperoni /pɛpəˈɹoʊni/, margarita /ˌmɑɹ.ɡəˈɹi.tə/, credibility /kɹɛd.əˈbɪ.ɫɪ.ti/, technically /ˈtɛk.nɪˌkəl.i/
צלילים שדוברי עברית מתקשים בהם:
- /w/ — שפתיים מעוגלות, לא /v/: brainwash /ˈbɹeɪnwɒʃ/, quietly /ˈkwaɪ.ɪt.li/
- /æ/ — פתוח יותר מה-“אֶ” העברית, לא כמו “a” ב-“cup”: soundtrack /ˈsaʊndˌtɹæk/, podcast /ˈpɑdˌkæst/, moustache /ˈmʌstæʃ/, clap /klæp/, mansion /ˈmæn.ʃən/
- /r/ — הלשון לא נוגעת בשום מקום, לא ה-“ר” הגרונית: soundtrack /ˈsaʊndˌtɹæk/, drake /ˈdɹeɪ̯k/, privilege /ˈpɹɪv.(ɪ.)lɪd͡ʒ/, frigid /ˈfɹɪd͡ʒɪd/, pepperoni /pɛpəˈɹoʊni/
איך לתרגל עם הסרטון הזה
- הקשיבו לכל הסרטון פעם אחת בלי לדבר, ורשמו את המילים שאתם לא מכירים.
- התחילו במהירות 0.75×, תרגלו Shadowing משפט אחר משפט, וחזרו למהירות רגילה כשזה מרגיש קל.
- הקליטו את עצמכם והשוו למקור, תוך תשומת לב למילים כמו soundtrack, corn, skinny.
מהי טכניקת השאדואינג?
שאדואינג היא טכניקת למידת שפה מבוססת מדע שפותחה במקור להכשרת מתורגמנים מקצועיים ופופולרית על ידי הפוליגלוט ד"ר אלכסנדר ארגואלס. השיטה פשוטה אך עוצמתית: אתה מקשיב לאודיו באנגלית ילידית וחוזר עליו בקול רם מיד — כמו צל העוקב אחרי הדובר עם עיכוב של 1–2 שניות בלבד. בניגוד להאזנה פסיבית או תרגילי דקדוק, שאדואינג מכריח את המוח והשרירים בפה לעבד ולשחזר דפוסי דיבור אמיתיים בו זמנית. מחקרים מראים שזה משפר משמעותית את דיוק ההגייה, האינטונציה, הקצב, הדיבור המחובר, הבנת השמיעה ושטף הדיבור — מה שהופך אותו לאחת השיטות היעילות ביותר להכנה לIELTS Speaking ולתקשורת באנגלית בעולם האמיתי.